seeing as they might encounter one of the yonkou who arent to kind, she might be able to finish the map by the time they reach raftel.
General 'Four Emperors' Discussion
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Anyone wonder which of the remaining2 Yonkou Shilloutese Kaidou is?
Some people say that the every heartbeat us the sound of god, kicking an angel, in the face.
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@Kitsune::
Anyone wonder which of the remaining2 Yonkou Shilloutese Kaidou is?
silhouette**
and my guess would be the one on the bottom. the other one looked like some fat whore (kinda like alvida actually but i doubt its her). kaidou sounds like a guy name
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Nami. Wants. To. Make. Her. OWN. World. Map.
She must visit all places in the world. Simple.
I don`t think that she HAS to travel to all the places in the world..
for arlong she made some exellent maps and i doubt that they brought nami to 100 places for drawing them…..she needs just some information(like fishman could gave her for riffs or whatever) to draw the map..thats also why the SH need a fishman\mermaid as nakama...he\she could help nami for her world map....
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most likely kaidou is the bottom guy because hes suppose to be as tall as WB
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t think that kaidou or the last yonkou will rly look like the shadows …their also wasnt a giant by the shadows for the shichibukai but know we know that two shichibukais are giant similiar:ermm: -
@Don:
i don
t think that kaidou or the last yonkou will rly look like the shadows …their also wasnt a giant by the shadows for the shichibukai but know we know that two shichibukais are giant similiar:ermm:It wasn't shadows as much as shady faces.
most likely kaidou is the bottom guy because hes suppose to be as tall as WB
What? Since when?
Some people say that the every heartbeat us the sound of god, kicking an angel, in the face.
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@Kitsune::
It wasn't shadows as much as shady faces.
yeah silhouttes(?) don`t know how to write it in english
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I'm just guessing Kaidou is the guy with the huge mustache in the Yonkou spread, aka, the not-obese guy because just looks more Asian than the other guy, and Kaidou's a pretty Asian name.
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Seeing it as in what high respect Arlong and his homies held Nami´s map drawings skills I´d say that even if some regions are mapped having her maps would be better then the ones that already exist.
Besides she want´s her own map of the world, so it practically doesn´t matter what other´s have done so far.
LOL at Arlong and his homies!
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@Don:
yeah silhouttes(?) don`t know how to write it in english
but you should know what i mean…:getlost:But at least this time there were definite facial features that he has to adhere to.
Some people say that the every heartbeat us the sound of god, kicking an angel, in the face.
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@Kitsune::
But at least this time there were definite facial features that he has to adhere to.
I agree. If those were not the right silhouettes, WB and Shanks wouldn't have the correct ones. So yeah, its pretty obvious those are Kaidou and the other Yonkou's silhouettes.
I think its time to learn more about the Yonkou too. The Redhaired - Whitebeard meeting was pretty important and interesting, but the other two Yonkou have been sort of "just there" for way too long. The entrance to the New World definitely needs something big to do with the Yonkou (we just had some more Shichibukai info, Admiral info the arc before) since it is their turf. I don't necessarily want a Yonkou to meet with the Strawhats, but maybe just a showing of them on some far off island.
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I think entrance into the New World should involve some major pirate, but not one who's a Yonkou or a Shichibukai, maybe, but can be involved with some major group, somehow.
Like maybe a division captain for one of the unnamed Yonkou or something, so that there'll be one that's actually out to get the SHs, instead of just being seen as regular newcomers.
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@Impel:
I think entrance into the New World should involve some major pirate, but not one who's a Yonkou or a Shichibukai, maybe, but can be involved with some major group, somehow.
Like maybe a division captain for one of the unnamed Yonkou or something, so that there'll be one that's actually out to get the SHs, instead of just being seen as regular newcomers.
Or one of Dragon's revolutionaries.
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I agree. If those were not the right silhouettes, WB and Shanks wouldn't have the correct ones. So yeah, its pretty obvious those are Kaidou and the other Yonkou's silhouettes.
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t believe that they actually looking like THIS….they look creepy...not rly odas style for such important charas...also it would be the first time Oda ACTUALLY shows really the face before introduce them in an arc.....
he also doesnt show akainus face cause oda doesnt want to present such "main" charas in such a way...they will be shown when they are arc related...
i wont say that this CANT be rly their faces ,but i would bet on that one......:getlost: -
@Don:
i can
t believe that they actually looking like THIS….they look creepy...not rly odas style for such important charas...also it would be the first time Oda ACTUALLY shows really the face before introduce them in an arc.....
he also doesnt show akainus face cause oda doesnt want to present such "main" charas in such a way...they will be shown when they are arc related...
i wont say that this CANT be rly their faces ,but i would bet on that one......:getlost:Creepy? You scared?… there's no time to be scared in the New World!!
Playing aside, the demeanor of the Yonkou ought to vary, don't you think? Even the swagger from Shichibukia to Shichibukia, Admiral to Admiral, is quite different. Besides, they were meant to have such a daunting presence from that picture, Oda accomplished his goal.
I think it matters more on foreshadowing than being arc related.
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@yoruba:
Creepy? You scared?… there's no time to be scared in the New World!!
Playing aside, the demeanor of the Yonkou ought to vary, don't you think? Even the swagger from Shichibukia to Shichibukia, Admiral to Admiral, is quite different. Besides, they were meant to have such a daunting presence from that picture, Oda accomplished his goal.
I think it matters more on foreshadowing than being arc related.
haha i mean their faces look like shiat!
I think such "normal bad looking pirate faces" cant be for some charas like a yonkou!!!!!!!!!!NO!! cant imagine someone really prefer that faces for such "important" charas..
when i see oda charadesign so far (without wanze(but he was at least original)yama and some others…all charas were absolutly nicce done against that "yonkou-faces"...
this faces could be for some random pirates\captn`s but for a yonkou.??!! look at how creativ morias design is....amazing face
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who thinks the new world is going to turn out to be all hype just like the grand line was?
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The Grand Line was not all hype. It was a fantastic dream world of manliness and Kaku.
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lol i expected the grandline to be somewhere where people actually DIE.
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mr 11, alabasta royal guard, unnamed pirates that got killed by raiders, (most likely the frog pirates were killed by those seamonkeys) and Brooks crew are some just off the top of my head.
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mr 11, alabasta royal guard, unnamed pirates that got killed by raiders, (most likely the frog pirates were killed by those seamonkeys) and Brooks crew are some just off the top of my head.
if ur referring to pell he didnt die. and i was being sarcastic , dont take it so literally , all im saying is i pretty much expected the grand line to be hell from the way it was built up.
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No, I'm talking about the guards that drank the magic water.
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they died? i didnt know that
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Magic water was filler.
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@Impel:
Magic water was filler.
No it wasn't. It's called "hero water" or something like that. Chapter 196.
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http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/196/
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I was thinking about how the Yonkou so far have been color themed for their names, and looked up the meaning of Kaidou to see if it also meant a color.
It doesn't, so, I guess the theory of all the Yonkou being color themed is wrong, but I did find something interesting. Apparently, Kaidou has multiple meanings, and I'll list them now.
assembly, meeting church, chapel, synagogue, tabernacle highway I find the second meaning interesting, considering Moria looks similar to a devil or demon, and his name comes from morgue, that the man who defeated him's name has the meaning of a holy place. I'm thinking Oda did this on purpose, and maybe this could be some kind of hint about Kaidou's power or personality. I know it sounds cliche, but maybe his power could be Light?
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Or perhaps you´re forgetting that the colors are part of the nicknames. You know, Edwart Newgate and Shanks both have no colors in their names. It´s the nicknames Whitebeard and Redhair(ed) that make the name part. So unless we don´t know more about Kaidoh I wouldn´t ditch the color thing right now.
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If Kaidou is that tall guy, then I could see him as the Blue mustache, or if it's the short fat one, the green wig.
But yeah, Kaidou seems more of a name rather than a nickname.
Does anyone know what Kaidou means, by the way?
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Kaidou and Kuma are friends. shifty eyes Secretly.
I wonder if Kaidou's color is green?
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No, I didn't forget that it was part of their nicknames. But yeah, I guess we don't know Kaidou's "pirate nickname" yet, so the color thing could still be true. I still think the meaning of his name is kind of interesting, though.
@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:
Does anyone know what Kaidou means, by the way?
Read the first post…it's kind of why I made this topic.
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That fat younkou kinda resembles a mix of a frog and those noble man with the pompous wigs, so I wouldn't be surprised if his theme color was green.
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Well, seeing as this is One Piece I'm guessing the "Kai" part refers to the sea and the "dou" part could be a conjugated "tou" which can mean a variety of things like boss or road. Sorry, was this written out in kanji or katakana? I don't remember.
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Doesn't "Umi" mean sea, though?
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In Japanese there are multiple ways to read a kanji symbol depending on what other kanji it is paired with etc. The kai in kaizoku refers to the sea.
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@Really:
Doesn't "Umi" mean sea, though?
It's not like there's other words for it. Nope, not at all.
(Think "Kairi" from Kingdom Hearts)
Well, Shinpanman beat me to it. Still, always good to reinforce it. ;)
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Well, there's the theory that the Yonkou represent the cardinal directions in Japanese mythology (Byakko, Suzaku, Genbu, and Seiryu) in which case two of the remaining Yonkou would have an association with the colors blue and black assuming that Whitebeard is the White Tiger and Shanks is the Red Bird.
That may be the case, though it's most likely a post hoc creation of Oda's after he realized that he had assigned two of the characters in the Yonkou with colors representing the said directions. Whitebeard's color stems from his connection to Blackbeard and Shanks may as well seeing as how he's most likely the Odaverse equivalent of Redbeard (bonus Oda points for also being the name of a Kurosawa film), though nowhere near as bloodthirsty.
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I think Kon wanted to be named Kai because it meant cool, so if Dou could mean either boss, then Kaidou may be COOL BOSS.
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Well, if we go on the theory that they're modeled after the Four Chinese Gods/Aspects, then we still need a Blue-green (Seiryu) and a Black (Genbu). We have a Whitebeard (Byakko) and a Red-haired (Suzaku).
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Between his color scheme (both from the name and his power) as well as his personality (he displayed incredible patience prior to the appearance of the Yami Yami Fruit as well as intentionally retreating from the spotlight), Teach is the single best candidate for the Black Tortoise. His current position as a Shichibukai might be the stepping stone towards his attempt at becoming a Yonkou while on his way towards Pirate King.
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Maybe no one's saying his name is anything like colors or hair because those would be his nicknames, not his real name. "Red-Hair" is not part of Shanks's real name, and Whitebeard is Edward Teach's epiphet.
And Moria doesn't come from Morgue, I think Oda really meant Moria from LOTR because it was a cavern of pure darkness.
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I think Moria comes from the spanish word for Dying.
Moria went crazy over the idea of becoming the pirate king with crewmates that would never ever die, so you could say Moria moria for achieving such a goal. XD
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The only definite I know about Moria is that his last name (real first name?) is supposed to be a pun on "Moonlight", so that at least works into the whole TB theme.
And for dying, I think it's more because of the zombies and/or the fear factor of it than his crew's sob story.
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Can't believe no one's made a LotR reference in regards to his name. Moria is Elvish for "Black Pit".
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@Fire Fist:
Can't believe no one's made a LotR reference in regards to his name. Moria is Elvish for "Black Pit".
@Impel:
And Moria doesn't come from Morgue, I think Oda really meant Moria from LOTR because it was a cavern of pure darkness.
I accept your apology.
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For some reason, I see Kaidou's color theme being Gold.
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@Impel:
I accept your apology.
Yeah, just noticed that. Sorry.
And Gold wouldn't work. We already have a Golden Pirate… The Pirate King. I don't think he got the nickname "Gold" Roger for kicks.
My guess is Blue-green or Black. Fits the Four Guardians.
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^You're right, that's why I wasn't sure about gold myself, but I had a feeling for some reason. I think blue or green are the best bets right now.
What about Silver?
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@Mr.:
^You're right, that's why I wasn't sure about gold myself, but I had a feeling for some reason. I think blue or green are the best bets right now.
What about Silver?
Well, there's already a pirate named Gin, which means Silver in Japanese.
