As long as they either befriend or defeat a Hammer Head and Great White based fish man it will be justified.
Official Fishman Island Discussion
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As long as they either befriend or defeat a Hammer Head and Great White based fish man it will be justified.
Amen. It doesn't necessarily have to be at Fishman Island but I'll surely be disappointed in Oda if we never see a Great White Shark Fishman.
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Sorry, my bad. But now I totally get what you mean.
Never did realise that Jimbei called his own prototypes to help, back in final of Impel Down.Either way, I believe Oda is going to have lots of fun designing gyojin and ningyo of Underwater Island. Every named one (except Chuu, but he had the best loss ever), from Arlong to Jimbei, were really entertaining.
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You know what Oda could bring in again? A Wotan (Fishman + Giant , like the one in the Davy Back Fight). It´d be interesting to see more of those…
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I said a while ago in the "things you want to see" topic that a great white shark fishman would rule.
That dude in WB's crew kinda looks like one but I doubt it.
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WELP, starting some time next spring I predict we'll see Fish man island.
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I have seen alot of people complain about the hype for fishmen island. I am not sure what they are expecting from it, maybe they just expect an arlong park arc 2 or something.
I believe Oda will be at his best during this upcoming arc. He will have fun with designing a world full of fish people. All the great character models we will get. All the mixed breeding we will get. It can be better then thriller bark with all the different character designs. Who is ready for a half shark/half goldfish person? You know we will get a couple of crazy crossings like that.
Plus the technology and seeing how the fishmen live, I think it has potential to be an epic arc by just the "exploring of it" aspect. And we already know the story arc that develops during the arc will be good because this is Oda.
I could go on about the hype but I want to get some replies in this thread and get the convo going. Why are you dreading this arc? Why are you looking forward to this arc?
Please GOda, let it be only-adventure arc, full of story telling and stuff revailing. Not always the same "lets kick badguys ass" arc
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Please GOda, let it be only-adventure arc, full of story telling and stuff revailing. Not always the same "lets kick badguys ass" arc
Seeing as how Whitebeard will be dead when Luffy finally visits Fishman Island, there is bound to be some controversy. I think it would be worse to say the only reason the island is safe is because of Whitebeard's name protecting it, and then when he's gone everything is peachy Keen.
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Please GOda, let it be only-adventure arc, full of story telling and stuff revailing. Not always the same "lets kick badguys ass" arc
Why can't it be both? Like every other arc in the manga?
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two things have to happen in the current arc for the fishman island arc to to very epic whitebeard has to die and marine HQ has to be destroyed
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two things have to happen in the current arc for the fishman island arc to to very epic whitebeard has to die and marine HQ has to be destroyed
WB can still live and be incapacitated and when the rumors of him weakening spreads out to the world, chaos will return to fishman island. we all know oda doesnt kill significant chars in present time. but yeah i agree those bastards (marines) need to have the HQ destroyed…
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Why can't it be both? Like every other arc in the manga?
agreed but a little less epic villain and more a delicate social situation with fighting to show luffy can learn discretion would be cool
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Why can't it be both? Like every other arc in the manga?
Then it turns yet again what One Piece is right now. Shit. Thank you.
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It's a fucking Shonen manga, what do you expect.
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2 years ago I would not expect FI to be under the Red Line and some guys thought Jinbei would be down there to figth the SHP. Too bad that it did not happen.
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@joekido:
2 years ago I would not expect FI to be under the Red Line and some guys thought Jinbei would be down there to figth the SHP. Too bad that it did not happen.
that would have been too similar to Arlong Park arc.
I think that WB will die, and after the war Luffy will re-join the crew in Sabaody, then they will go to Fishmen Island with Jimbei.
As WB is dead, there will be some NW pirates (Kaidoh? The remaining emperor?) on FI trying to take the place of WB and the Straw Hat + Jimbei will fight them and bring back peace to FI.
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@'ko:
that would have been too similar to Arlong Park arc.
I think that WB will die, and after the war Luffy will re-join the crew in Sabaody, then they will go to Fishmen Island with Jimbei.
As WB is dead, there will be some NW pirates (Kaidoh? The remaining emperor?) on FI trying to take the place of WB and the Straw Hat + Jimbei will fight them and bring back peace to FI.
I think that after the war, Luffy passes out due to his fatigue. His crewmates, who saw him fighting and goes omgwtf, meeting up with iva and the others and carry him off. Or something like that I assume.
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@ZeArmyOfHalen:
It's a fucking Shonen manga, what do you expect.
I expect One Piece, not shit like this shit.
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I expect One Piece, not shit like this shit.
Just to clarify, you think currently One Piece is shit because there is fighting in a WAR arc.
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@'ko:
that would have been too similar to Arlong Park arc.
I think that WB will die, and after the war Luffy will re-join the crew in Sabaody, then they will go to Fishmen Island with Jimbei.
As WB is dead, there will be some NW pirates (Kaidoh? The remaining emperor?) on FI trying to take the place of WB and the Straw Hat + Jimbei will fight them and bring back peace to FI.
How exactly do you expect them to bring back peace to Fishmen Island if they confront one of the Yonkou? :wassat: There's no way for the to win.
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How exactly do you expect them to bring back peace to Fishmen Island if they confront one of the Yonkou? :wassat: There's no way for the to win.
back at Alabasta times, it seemed impossible that Luffy could ever beat a Shichibukai, but it happened.
The entire crew VS 1 emperor should not an impossible match. Or it could be that the other emperor who takes possesion of Fishmen Island is Shanks, so they don't even have to fight.
Or, some of "simple" NW pirates, similar the ones that are involved in the War, which level is not so high compared to SH's.
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it could also be a division commanders of one of the emperors that he has to beat so increased difficulty but not outrageous
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I am on the bandwagon! I look forward to to a possible Strawhat liberation of Fishman island some time in the future.
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I look forward to the inevitable.
Fishman Island becomes Luffy's territory.
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@Gerchak:
I look forward to the inevitable.
Fishman Island becomes Luffy's territory.
My thoughts exactly. Thinking about this scene has me psyched.
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@Gerchak:
I look forward to the inevitable.
Fishman Island becomes Luffy's territory.
I've always predicted for the longest. It would be pretty damn cool for the SH's to be feared on that scale.
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Personal thoughts on how I think Fishman Island arc will play out:
After Luffy and the SHs rejoin, Jinbei will accompany them to a now chaos ridden Fishman Island where Doflamingo, the Celestial Dragons, Marines, and a Yonkou are taking advantage of the chaos. Akainu has recently been promoted to fleet admiral while Sengoku is demoted. This arc could finally reveal Doflamingo's past. The fact he was linked to the auction house could put him back in control of the auction house and use it. Then, Kuma arrives, reveals that he's been in control, and betrays the WG one final time in order to save the SHs, and defeats Doflamingo, but somehow dies in the process. Doflamingo retreats and is removed from the Shichibukai by the WG.
Then, Jinbei and the fishman arm themselves and defeat the Celestial Dragons, and repel the marines for a short time, causing marines to retreat.
Finally, a Yonkou (The one that defeated Moria or the unrevealed one) shows up to claim control of an already devastated fishman Island, manages to beat down Jinbei and his forces, along with every SH, but fails due to Dragon showing up, along with multiple revolutionaries. The revolutionaries free Fishman Island, and Jinbei stays to keep peace with Archipelago, and Hachi joins the SH crew, feeling that everything is as it should be.
In the midst of all this, Blackbeard rips apart Mariejois and Hancock and her people defend themselves, soon succeeding in defeating the marines trying to take them over.
By the end of this, the Shichibukai completely disband by order of WG, as Kuma is dead, Doflamingo, Hancock, Jinbei, and Blackbeard betrayed the government, and Moria and Mihawk are hardly intimidating or powerful by themselves, especially since Moria was already defeated.
Beyond this, the marines become vastly more dangerous and powerful.
Anyone else agree? Personally, I think it'd answer many, many, many questions, and it'd be a great beginning to 6th Saga. I actually do think Hachi will join, he seems like an incredibly appropriate member. Despite being so attached to Camie, several characters have had to leave people they've been attached to, and Hachi could easily have an equal rights dream that could/will be realized by the end of the series.
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Personal thoughts on how I think Fishman Island arc will play out:
After Luffy and the SHs rejoin, Jinbei will accompany them to a now chaos ridden Fishman Island where Doflamingo, the Celestial Dragons, Marines, and a Yonkou are taking advantage of the chaos. Akainu has recently been promoted to fleet admiral while Sengoku is demoted. This arc could finally reveal Doflamingo's past. The fact he was linked to the auction house could put him back in control of the auction house and use it. Then, Kuma arrives, reveals that he's been in control, and betrays the WG one final time in order to save the SHs, and defeats Doflamingo, but somehow dies in the process. Doflamingo retreats and is removed from the Shichibukai by the WG.
Then, Jinbei and the fishman arm themselves and defeat the Celestial Dragons, and repel the marines for a short time, causing marines to retreat.
Finally, a Yonkou (The one that defeated Moria or the unrevealed one) shows up to claim control of an already devastated fishman Island, manages to beat down Jinbei and his forces, along with every SH, but fails due to Dragon showing up, along with multiple revolutionaries. The revolutionaries free Fishman Island, and Jinbei stays to keep peace with Archipelago, and Hachi joins the SH crew, feeling that everything is as it should be.
In the midst of all this, Blackbeard rips apart Mariejois and Hancock and her people defend themselves, soon succeeding in defeating the marines trying to take them over.
By the end of this, the Shichibukai completely disband by order of WG, as Kuma is dead, Doflamingo, Hancock, Jinbei, and Blackbeard betrayed the government, and Moria and Mihawk are hardly intimidating or powerful by themselves, especially since Moria was already defeated.
Beyond this, the marines become vastly more dangerous and powerful.
Anyone else agree? Personally, I think it'd answer many, many, many questions, and it'd be a great beginning to 6th Saga. I actually do think Hachi will join, he seems like an incredibly appropriate member. Despite being so attached to Camie, several characters have had to leave people they've been attached to, and Hachi could easily have an equal rights dream that could/will be realized by the end of the series.
Good job But I have some questions. What would the Celestial do? They are not fighters just as Id like to call them "spoiled". I think one member of the SHs could defeat them all, its just that noone ever wanted to because of the consequences. I mean, now that hell have broke loose and the Marines havent have time to rejoice maybe they wont care much for the CD. But what would the CDs do in a war? Send their slaves at their opponents?
About Hachi, I doubt it. He is very emotinal about all the bad things he done as an ex pirate. The SHs just recruited a swordsman… I think somehow Oda wants a balance. But sure a fishman is to me a must for the SHs, I wont cry a river if Hachi joins, I like the character but I also think he is too weak for the NW.
I think you theory was nice but one of the Yankou´s already?`They havent even entered the NW before they have met their third Yankou... to me those two should be a mystery a while longer.
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The problem is, you have Luffy being defeated a few times while other known characters show up and beat the bad guys for him, Oda would never write something like that.
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I've always predicted for the longest. It would be pretty damn cool for the SH's to be feared on that scale.
dunno, don't think so, cause no SW wish to became a ruler of something
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Please GOda, let it be only-adventure arc, full of story telling and stuff revailing. Not always the same "lets kick badguys ass" arc
waah?? it would be a nice change but it isn't "one piece" I mean everytime the crew sails into a new island they do something that triggers a fight somehow. What would be great is if oda once again trolls fishman island and we get a buggy and captain john treasure arc instead
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The problem is, you have Luffy being defeated a few times while other known characters show up and beat the bad guys for him, Oda would never write something like that.
My sarcasm radar is broken. Is that sarcastic? (Considering what happened in the war is EXACTLY what you're saying)
Also, I disagree that Luffy will own FIshman Island; He's not the type.
I would hate to see him backtrack all the way back to Fishman Island when it's under threat.
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every arc will always have a villain..
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My sarcasm radar is broken. Is that sarcastic? (Considering what happened in the war is EXACTLY what you're saying)
Also, I disagree that Luffy will own FIshman Island; He's not the type.
I would hate to see him backtrack all the way back to Fishman Island when it's under threat.
I believe wintergt was talking about this: @Rob_Lucci_CP9:
Finally, a Yonkou (The one that defeated Moria or the unrevealed one) shows up to claim control of an already devastated fishman Island, manages to beat down Jinbei and his forces, along with every SH, but fails due to Dragon showing up, along with multiple revolutionaries. The revolutionaries free Fishman Island, and Jinbei stays to keep peace with Archipelago, and Hachi joins the SH crew, feeling that everything is as it should be.
But idk, could be wrong… btw winter... we want the next recap!!
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The only thing I hope for in Fishman island is a slaughter arc. I want to see all the powered up Strawhats beating fodder left and right like in the beginning of One Piece.
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Good job But I have some questions. What would the Celestial do? They are not fighters just as Id like to call them "spoiled". I think one member of the SHs could defeat them all, its just that noone ever wanted to because of the consequences. I mean, now that hell have broke loose and the Marines havent have time to rejoice maybe they wont care much for the CD. But what would the CDs do in a war? Send their slaves at their opponents?
About Hachi, I doubt it. He is very emotinal about all the bad things he done as an ex pirate. The SHs just recruited a swordsman… I think somehow Oda wants a balance. But sure a fishman is to me a must for the SHs, I wont cry a river if Hachi joins, I like the character but I also think he is too weak for the NW.
I think you theory was nice but one of the Yankou´s already?`They havent even entered the NW before they have met their third Yankou... to me those two should be a mystery a while longer.
By that, I mean they defeat the CDs, but the CDs are weak, and are hiding behind the forces protecting them.
Very true about Hachi. I wanted to see Jinbei join more than anything, but I somehow doubt he will. Maybe a new Fishman introduced in the arc could join, dunno. Your right about Hachi, though.
It seemed like a proper beginning to the NW: Get their asses kicked by a Yonkou, having an early taste of the NW. Or, maybe, instead of SHs getting defeated, they just need a small bit of assistance and do get it from revolutionaries, because I don't have a doubt that they'll get involved in the matter when Fishman Island is thrown into chaos, which if Whitebeard dies, it probably will be thrown into chaos.
This is all unlikely to happen, but i'd think it'd be cool and an interesting way to start out the journey to the NW.
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My sarcasm radar is broken. Is that sarcastic? (Considering what happened in the war is EXACTLY what you're saying)
There was no real big bad for Luffy to defeat this arc, his goal was to rescue Ace, and that is what he did. To explain further what I mean, it would be if Ace had shown up again in Alabasta and defeated Crocodile for Luffy, or if Dragon had shown up and beaten Enel because Luffy couldn't do it. Oda does not do that, if Luffy has a goal to beat someone, or free someone (or whatever), he will ultimately achieve this on his own strength. That theory that I responded to had a bunch of people beat Luffy's enemies for him and end the arc that way, not gonna happen.
But idk, could be wrong… btw winter... we want the next recap!!
Hm sorry I don't have much inspiration for this chapter :( I hope the next one will be more inspiring because I plan to continue this, I might even do both then.
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By that, I mean they defeat the CDs, but the CDs are weak, and are hiding behind the forces protecting them.
Very true about Hachi. I wanted to see Jinbei join more than anything, but I somehow doubt he will. Maybe a new Fishman introduced in the arc could join, dunno. Your right about Hachi, though.
It seemed like a proper beginning to the NW: Get their asses kicked by a Yonkou, having an early taste of the NW. Or, maybe, instead of SHs getting defeated, they just need a small bit of assistance and do get it from revolutionaries, because I don't have a doubt that they'll get involved in the matter when Fishman Island is thrown into chaos, which if Whitebeard dies, it probably will be thrown into chaos.
This is all unlikely to happen, but i'd think it'd be cool and an interesting way to start out the journey to the NW.
Eh, have them have a close fight with like a right-hand man of a Yonkou, and then a lesser Supernova like Urouge or Bege be the guy whose ass is kicked by the Yonkou as a show of force.
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The next arc is going to be about the Florian Triangle monster. After that we're going to get an arc about South Blue along with Laffite's and Brook's pasts. We should see Fishman Island sometime in 2043.
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The next arc is going to be about the Florian Triangle monster. After that we're going to get an arc about South Blue along with Laffite's and Brook's pasts. We should see Fishman Island sometime in 2043.
the right place to post thi is here : http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=13350
dereshi dereshishishishiAlso would be coOol if luffy fight a yonkou trying to get the island.
After meeting aokiji ruffy get stronger and rack cp9
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While the sarcasm in my post is thick, the post isn't necessarily without merit. There's a decent chance that the Florian Triangle monster will play a role before Fishman Island. Therefore, the dumb predictions thread isn't the right place for it.
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While the sarcasm in my post is thick, the post isn't necessarily without merit. There's a decent chance that the Florian Triangle monster will play a role before Fishman Island. Therefore, the dumb predictions thread isn't the right place for it.
I would find it very amusing if that's not a big, scary monster, and is instead the OP equivalent of Aurora Borealis.
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While the sarcasm in my post is thick, the post isn't necessarily without merit. There's a decent chance that the Florian Triangle monster will play a role before Fishman Island. Therefore, the dumb predictions thread isn't the right place for it.
Yeah I'd like to know what that was about, and if Oda wants to bring the monster (or whatever it was) up again it will have to be before the SHs sail into the NW, but the problem is they'd almost have to backtrack to be confronted with it again..
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@S.C.:
I would find it very amusing if that's not a big, scary monster, and is instead the OP equivalent of Aurora Borealis.
While that would be relatively amusing, it wouldn't explain the eyes and the missing ships.
Yeah I'd like to know what that was about, and if Oda wants to bring the monster (or whatever it was) up again it will have to be before the SHs sail into the NW, but the problem is they'd almost have to backtrack to be confronted with it again..
I don't know about that. There are multiple ways it could be handled to be honest. The simplest way is the likely possibility of a return to Amazon Lily after the war. That alone could force them to sail back through the Florian Triangle again (they would have to pass by Enies Lobby again, as it is). Another possibility is simply that one of the crew members has to deal with it in their side story.
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While that would be relatively amusing, it wouldn't explain the eyes and the missing ships.
You got me on the ships, but I mean the eyes are part of the AB thing.
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@S.C.:
I would find it very amusing if that's not a big, scary monster, and is instead the OP equivalent of Aurora Borealis.
couldn't the florian be related with the movie?
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@S.C.:
You got me on the ships, but I mean the eyes are part of the AB thing.
Fair enough.
couldn't the florian be related with the movie?
a good place to hide with dangers due to the great creatures and so?It's possible, but very unlikely with how the manga was worded.
@Stephen's:[…In the dour, eerie Florian Triangle.]
[Every year, over 100 ships…] …
[…Are lost in the depths of its mists.]
[It has been the deep mystery of these waters,]
[long before the enormous pirate vessel Thriller Bark…] …
[…First cast its shadows on this nebulous stretch of sea, ten years ago...] (chapter 490)Shiki only started doing his thing 20 years prior to the story, which wouldn't really match the feeling of that narration.
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fishman island will more then likely be tied in with majoriea since they are tied together by the slave trade