So, it has been confirmed that Zamus is only unlockable by a Smash Ball, correct?
Wow… that's really shitty.
Super Smash Bros Brawl ptII
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It hasn't really been confirmed as far as I can tell
her F Smash reportedly puts her suit on.
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One would think Sakurai would throw in a "By the way, you don't need the Final Smash to play as her" if one actually existed just to secure that leak, but he hasn't said anything yet. And I raise a brow to that considering the explosion of Zamus fans after the update.
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Sakurai's left us in the dark about a lot of obvious things before, though
How exactly Final Smashes are done, how to obtain smash balls, etc.
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Yeah, I suppose.
God, I hate this guy.
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video, a lame one, only good things are the golden hammer in action, damn that thing is FAST, and Ike's shure side B. -
Haven't noticed before but Yoshi's looking incredibly floaty.
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Holy shit, that hammer is FAST. I guess it makes sense that it's really rare. I don't see Ike in that video, though. I guess I just misunderstood.
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This is awesome.
Nyâsu. Major believe Pokemon, but
Smap DX, the bra has appeared yet.
Surprise. Smap's first bra, from the ocean"KOBAN cats" and says, but
Possession of money is not increased.I? Upon have the "oval gold coin" will be, but
Overseas is not what is being said? Smap Ken Bula, the overseas edition standpoint, you know? ? -
@Private:
This is awesome.
Nyâsu. Major believe Pokemon, but
Smap DX, the bra has appeared yet.
Surprise. Smap's first bra, from the ocean"KOBAN cats" and says, but
Possession of money is not increased.I? Upon have the "oval gold coin" will be, but
Overseas is not what is being said? Smap Ken Bula, the overseas edition standpoint, you know? ?That makes God! !
That makes God! !
That makes God! !
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Man THis is total bull… I didnt get the money to go to E for All till Tomorrow which kinda killed my mood today :< SOrry Guys :<
Where will you find…
And how will you use...
The forbidden fruit?
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Man THis is total bull… I didnt get the money to go to E for All till Tomorrow which kinda killed my mood today :< SOrry Guys :<
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XD I deserve that but I be going tomorrow for sure since my aunt HAS to give me the money today ^^;;;
So yea. Pls the con was pretty empty from what I saw from the lobby.
Where will you find…
And how will you use...
The forbidden fruit?
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Yeah, looks like E For All is a ghost town. Looks like the first and last guys!
But it's just Thursday, it'll probably pick up around the weekend…. but it still looks like fail.
Some Impressions are in from the Smash Community:
@Smashboards:
I don't know what people know, but i just talked to Gimpy and some Oregon people on the phone who have been playing a Brawl demo setup for 1v1 with the classic controller, here's what they've said so far:
no wavedashing and no wavelanding
airdodging is like how we predicted, just go with momentum,
Fox can SH triple laser.
Fox can jump out of shine, but it requires that you hold down and B, you can't let go or he'll go into a different animation, hold down and b and then jump.Bowser is hardcore.
Claw is ridiculous
Bowser will probably be top tier
Up+B out of shield is same, just as powerful.Samus has a dark suit red visor, Fusion suit, Sonic costumes are recolors of blue, Fox has a starwolf outfit. Diddy Kong has Dixie Kong outfit without the hair, Bowser has a golden costume, made out of gold.
Mario's fsmash is so slow,
Samus can't missile cancel, animation doesn't stop, hard to do though.
Bomb jumping is tough, hitting bombs not directly on top of them knocks you to the side.
If you die as zero suit, you stay as zero suit, you can't automatically be zero suit like changing from Zelda to Sheik at the beginning of a round.Samus charged shot isn't strong, peach was shot with it fully charged at 87% didn't kill.
Can catch edge even if you're facing wrong way, edgehogging is easy. Edgehogging will be the new edgeguard of choice, characters ‘click’ to it.
Peach is nerfed.
Peach’s dsmash is nerfed, no range
Float canceling not sure
Peach seems heavierSonic, not as good as you expect
moves don't have much knockback, kind of 'loose',
all the new chars, he's least popular, hardest learning curveDo an aerial that has forward momentum and when you land it’s almost the same as a waveland. Certain moves / aerials have less friction/traction,
DI is more pronounced, you can get out of stuff a lot easier, takes knockback easier, can survive until 150.
L-canceling is not in as far as we can tell.
How does the game feel: Feels slower, definitely, on classic, feels awkward, accidentally jump alot, can't SH on the wiimote, everyone is so floaty. Brawl plays really differently, it’s awkward for now because not used to it. Not a lot of lag for moves, maybe lag lowered for sake of demo.
@Smashboards:
I tried L-Cancelling with Link's dair repeatedly this morning. All seemed to recover at the same speed as doing a dair without trying to L-cancel. And if a long recovery time like that isn't l-cancelable… doubt anything else would be. So that appears out.
I reconfirmed momentum dodging. You either can't control the direction at all (aside from being going in the direction you want before you air dodge, lol), or it's very very minor. It doesn't give any type of push, so it'll go to your normal trajectory and then start going downwards. So wavedashing as we knew it is indeed gone.
After you air dodge, there's about a 1 second delay (of falling helplessly) before you can do anything. You can jump and even Up B after that, though. I don't recall 100%, but I'm pretty sure that you don't get your jump back if you already used it. I also don't recall testing specifically if you can double air dodge, but it seems likely as long as it doens't give you your jump back and it would also explain the delay after an Air dodge (that way if you're falling to the stage, you can't spam air dodge and be safe all the way down). - So those of you thinking you'll Air Dodge and then do an aerial combo right after as a counterattack (thinking that's how aerial combat would be improved - which I think would've been sweet)... sorry, but not gonna happen..
Crawling seems to be like walljumping was, in that not everyone has it. I did it with Pikachu but couldn't do it with Mario (bah, he could crawl some of his games) or Sonic (so my friend was wrong, I guess). I almost thought that was Pika's walk after I thought about it, but the Nintendo World Video on the Dojo shows Pika using his old walk (along with Mario, right before Wario shows up). So crawling = character specific. --- The input for Pika was just diagonal down.
Dashing dancing appears to be possible, but different. It took me a bit, but I kinda did it with Peach, Ike, and Fox. Fox looked the most like oldschool dash dancing, whereas when I did it with the other two it was taking me longer to turn around (think Zelda's dance dash...). I kept jumping out of Fox's... but it's not like I'm used to using the Classic Controller.
I didn't see an opening dash move for Fox (where it'd be most noticeable to me) when I tested, so foxtrotting looks to be gone.
We already knew this, but shorthop and fastfall are still there. Also, you can jump directly out of your shield (was shielding with Fox, and hit a jump button on Classic Controller and he jumped out of it).
As Zauron isn't going to have the time to keep this thread updated, I'll post a full report of what I've learned in the Impressions thread. Prolly 5 hours from now or so, as I don't want to start on it at work, but not be able to finish it. http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=121130
Lastly, Dark Link looks friggin' awesome. If you think otherwise after seeing him, you need to have your eyes checked and/or may not have the ability to recognize sheer awesomeness (in which case the rest of us both pity and laugh at you). - Think Black Link from Melee. Now makes his skin dark brown (think… really severe tan). Now make his eyes glow red. And that's Dark Link in a nutshell.
@Gamefaqs:
I will elaborate later but for right now this is a list of things I have seen or played.
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Sonic's costumes: they are only recolors of blue with different wristbands. Kinda lame.
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Bowser is pretty much the same since melee except fsmash is WEAKER now and he has some awesome biting taunts and a golden outfit. Seriously awesome. He can still up +B out of the shield and it rawks.
-Fox actually isn't THAT nerfed. he has an outfit that kinda looks like starwolf except not grey enough. His shine CAN be jump cancelled but it is really strange. You have to hold down + B WHILE hitting jump or you IMMEDIATELY go into the "unshining" animation. This new quick "unshine" lets you multishine really easily in the air by just tapping down B. His uair and usmash are a bit weaker but still kill well. You can still shinespike but it has less stun and knockback. Shine doesn't clank with as nearly as many things anymore, and Fox's fair is better.
-Ike's Final smash is weird. You have to be like RIGHT NEXT to someone but if it lands it is an awesome combo resulting in a one hit KO. Metaknights is kinda the same way but with one slash. Donkey Kong's is the easiest to dodge by just not being close to him. ZSS's final smash is just turning back into Samus with damage if you touch her while she goes back into Samus mode.
-Diddy is actually quite speedy with attacks and has a good variety of moves. Donkey Kong is like Bowser, almost exactly the same with a few tweaks. Diddy's moves are kind of like a Luigi-fied DK's. He also has a costume with Dixie's colors (pink).
Metaknight isn't broken and actually no characters really dominated. Peach's turnips seem to almost always come out "regular" and her whorenado has been nerfed but it can still be CCed for massive damage. Samus can still CCC with her dtilt but missle cancelling is gone. Bomb jumping is really hard and not really beneficial with Samus because of how floaty you are and how small the stages are. DI is really weird but I will get into that later.
One more thing before I go (for now):
Fox's lasers have less range, but you can now short hop TRIPLE laser. Epic.
Like I said earlier, this makes things very interesting…
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@Private:
This is awesome.
Tiny from it, lick it is not.
His fight is a certifiable.Sams: The last piece of wheat gluten.
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http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Cheeeeseman
About to see the videos…
Pikachu Vs Metaknight: Lackluster, almost Meta FS, but alas is hard to aim. Goldeen in action, probably meta's Up Smash, he seems weaker against only one oponent, but maybe it was too newb
Link Vs Fox: Landmaster looks.. .imponent!!!, umm excite bike at and nothing else.
Link Vs fox at lyat cruise: Spicy curry in action == win
Peach Vs metaknight: I guess the charm of the boot babes only aplies if you are there or triying to see them, not the screaming interrupting the video, Peach boomer is A loot faster.
Bowser Vs mario: both very lame, follow this advice and mute it...
Link Vs Ike: Links final in action, at last, and a link costume.
Link vs pit: nothing worth mentioning.
Mario Vs link: Bridge of eldin looks like a quiet stage, while it is whole, mario's Fs.
To sum it up, nothing much.
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http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Cheeeeseman
About to see the videos…
I had to mute most of those. That girl is so damn annoying.
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That and shitty camera work made them not worth bothering with in my opinion.
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"According to some of the guys at that "E For All" thing, alternate costumes are a little more varied this time, with Fusion Suit Samus, Dixie Kong, Star Wolf, and Dark/Shadow Link being among them. And of course Daisy."
Sounds cool, if true!
OH SHI-
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Gah I got the money and bought my ticket there is no way in hell Im gonna miss tomorrow :E Gonna wake up hella Early to get my stuff. Im in the clear so Yea Vids be up tomorrow
and sorry guys TT just couldnt make it to the first day :<
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For anybody that cares:
"_I tried L-Cancelling with Link's dair repeatedly this morning. All seemed to recover at the same speed as doing a dair without trying to L-cancel. And if a long recovery time like that isn't l-cancelable… doubt anything else would be. So that appears out.
I reconfirmed momentum dodging. You either can't control the direction at all (aside from being going in the direction you want before you air dodge, lol), or it's very very minor. It doesn't give any type of push, so it'll go to your normal trajectory and then start going downwards. So wavedashing as we knew it is indeed gone.
After you air dodge, there's about a 1 second delay (of falling helplessly) before you can do anything. You can jump and even Up B after that, though. I don't recall 100%, but I'm pretty sure that you don't get your jump back if you already used it. I also don't recall testing specifically if you can double air dodge, but it seems likely as long as it doens't give you your jump back and it would also explain the delay after an Air dodge (that way if you're falling to the stage, you can't spam air dodge and be safe all the way down). - So those of you thinking you'll Air Dodge and then do an aerial combo right after as a counterattack (thinking that's how aerial combat would be improved - which I think would've been sweet)... sorry, but not gonna happen..
Crawling seems to be like walljumping was, in that not everyone has it. I did it with Pikachu but couldn't do it with Mario (bah, he could crawl some of his games) or Sonic (so my friend was wrong, I guess). I almost thought that was Pika's walk after I thought about it, but the Nintendo World Video on the Dojo shows Pika using his old walk (along with Mario, right before Wario shows up). So crawling = character specific. --- The input for Pika was just diagonal down.
Dashing dancing appears to be possible, but different. It took me a bit, but I kinda did it with Peach, Ike, and Fox. Fox looked the most like oldschool dash dancing, whereas when I did it with the other two it was taking me longer to turn around (think Zelda's dance dash...). I kept jumping out of Fox's... but it's not like I'm used to using the Classic Controller.
I didn't see an opening dash move for Fox (where it'd be most noticeable to me) when I tested, so foxtrotting looks to be gone.
We already knew this, but shorthop and fastfall are still there. Also, you can jump directly out of your shield (was shielding with Fox, and hit a jump button on Classic Controller and he jumped out of it).
As Zauron isn't going to have the time to keep this thread updated, I'll post a full report of what I've learned in the Impressions thread. Prolly 5 hours from now or so, as I don't want to start on it at work, but not be able to finish it. http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=121130"_
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http://www.apforums.net/showpost.php?p=674621&postcount=657
Here's the information you just posted.
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Sorry, have been absorbed into Oblivion and haven't really been payin' attention to what's being posted.
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ah why didn't fox do a barrel roll. Why!
Wow didn't expect link's final to have that kinda of range. And I 66% damage impressive, no real knockback though.
Wish the mario player could have finshed him off at a better place so we have more idea of the damage. Also it seemed to leave flames behind. I wonder if those do damage.
Oh pikachu seems to have dumped the stupid party hats. So far I seen him wear ash's hat and googles like pichu.
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HOLY SHIT. I cheered.
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HOLY SHIT. I cheered.
Wow, DK went crazy.
Also, what the hell's up with that music?
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The girls in those YouTube videos are annoying as all fuck.
They're probably paid to be there and scream like that, but it's so similar to those annoying little bitches that'll go to a tournament like that [when they can't even play] and just go "YEAH MY BOYFRIEND WILL BEAT ALL OF YOU I LOVE MY POOKY BEAR"
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HOLY SHIT. I cheered.
Did anyone else notice that "Trophy Stand" Item?
When DK threw it at a Koopa Troopa a trophy of it appeared…
More than Coincidence?
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Oh man, I'm starting to love Diddy even more after that video.
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Wow, that DK and Diddy video is the shit that dreams're made up.
the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit
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I know we've know it for a while, but it's really nice to see in motion just how much effort they are putting into the Single Player now.
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I was specting a gameplay video, this is a LOT better, what is that?
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That shit was great.
Time to make an avatar.
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God Damn, of all the quotes posted save for dumbass Gamefaqs, Smashboards "first impressions" are just them whining about what's changed. I'm sure they'll find another way to take a perfectly fun and awesome game and turn it into tourneyfag bullshit.
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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26652.html
not as cool as the monkey's one, but this is more main storyish, this adventure mode is looking too much like kirby super star, I don't know if it is a good thing ( a good game) or a bad thing (tooo short).
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fuck online dude its gonna b like playin ur friends at home im jus pplayin the ones i know over the wifi and pwn story mode
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Wii Online really a needs a voice communication for it to really worth fully with Story Mode. I mean, who actually plans to enjoy Brawl at home by themselves?
Oh yeah, like 80% of people who plan to buy it.
Pit's Theme still blows.
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So, the primids aren't (at least these ones) the new polygon team, like I would like it to be, there was the boom primid at some point in the video.
for the love of all that is good and pure, mute it…
Ike(retarded) vs sonic(meh) nothing good, except the stage, norfair
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@Private:
I'm sure they'll find another way to take a perfectly fun and awesome game and turn it into tourneyfag bullshit.
Am sure you'll find something to complain about, no matter what they do.
If you don't like it, don't play that way. Nobody is forcing you to do anything, Slop Drudge Zulen.
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@Cyringohn:
Am sure you'll find something to complain about, no matter what they do.
If you don't like it, don't play that way. Nobody is forcing you to do anything, Slop Drudge Zulen.
Still annoys me the way they brand people who play it for fun with stupid terms and such. It's such a low-brow community at heart.
On second thought, I take that back. I'm sort of pissed after reading all that stuff, I sort of got carried away.
Condolences to offended and such, etc.
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@Private:
Still annoys me the way they brand people who play it for fun with stupid terms and such. It's such a low-brow community at heart.
What both sides fail to realize is that everybody "is playing for fun." They find fun in competing with pure skill [or as close to pure as possible], while you find fun in playing the game in the way you feel it was "meant to be played" [even though no true method of play].
If both kinds of you dumbshits would just shut the fuck up and play the way you want, it wouldn't be an issue.
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@Private:
Still annoys me the way they brand people who play it for fun with stupid terms and such. It's such a low-brow community at heart.
And you brand them with terms such as 'tourneyfags' because they think differently than you do.
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@Cyringohn:
What both sides fail to realize is that everybody "is playing for fun." They find fun in competing with pure skill [or as close to pure as possible], while you find fun in playing the game in the way you feel it was "meant to be played" [even though no true method of play].
If both kinds of you dumbshits would just shut the fuck up and play the way you want, it wouldn't be an issue.
Whoa, whoa, slow down there, tiger.
I was just pissed at their lacking of positive impressions.
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fuck online dude its gonna b like playin ur friends at home i**m jus pplayin the ones i know** over the wif__i and pwn story mode
the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit
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@Cap'n:
fuck online dude its gonna b like playin ur friends at home i**m jus pplayin the ones i know** over the wif__i and pwn story mode
Still too subtle for me, apparently.
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That Diddy/DK video was EPIC.
So reminiscent of the old days.
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@Private:
Pit's Theme still blows.
In the first video with Pit on the Smash bros. site, there is an orchestrated version of the song playing, and it was starting to sound pretty damn awesome actually.
Looking at those videos…the Diddy/Donkey Kong story mode practically looked like a good ol' fashioned Donkey Kong Country game, complete with those rocket barrels, the Pit story mode has a combination of horizontal and vertical platforming, Its probably a stretch, but I'm starting to think that maybe each character's individual story mode has some sort of special structure based on their respective games.
I can only imagine what Samus's and Link's story modes would be like...
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Peach's final smash tonight.
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Peach's Final Smash.
Wonder why the Germans are always early.
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Today is Peach's Final Smash. She looks Posseds XD;
