Does anyone else notice all of the coffins lining the outside of the room where Chopper and Hogback are?
Chapter 461 "Ghost Buster" Discussion
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Lol at Buuhan1's avatar.
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@Yamato:
I say that the kiss will be stopped by the penguin-dog Sanji xD that would be quite funny =P (think it might happen) (diblo janbe Penguin Sanji xD)
maybe absalom will be then pissed and then kil the penguin and sanji wil get his shadow back =P (dont think it'll happen)
Uh, the penguin's with Hogback, which is completely the opposite way from the wedding.
Sanji will probably bust in just as she gets kissed and his heart will explode, and Sniper Island will crush Absalom and Nami.
No, Seriously, Nami will probably wake up just before he kisses her and slug him.
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Watch, Nami will be saved by the fact Absolom does not have lips to kiss her with.
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@Fire Fist:
Uh, the penguin's with Hogback, which is completely the opposite way from the wedding.
Sanji will probably bust in just as she gets kissed and his heart will explode, and Sniper Island will crush Absalom and Nami.
No, Seriously, Nami will probably wake up just before he kisses her and slug him.
Either that or shoot for a very lucrative divorce (Really, who here wouldn't put it past her?)
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awesome avatar, beansdooma.
i was wondering what franky was doing… hilarious! i love him more and more!
everyone keeps saying, "chopper has to fight hogback, jigoroh and dogpen" but robin's there too! what's with the assumption that she's only going to fight cindry? robin's been known to have male adversaries and in fact, she's kind of already taken care of the plate thrower...
i guess the spoiler text turned out to be true! time to start sauteing my shorts...
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You know, all things considered I'd bet that Dogpen and Jigouru will get into a fight and "take care" of each other without ever getting a chance to defend Hogback. After all, Hogback can't know the personalities of the zombies he just picked.
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You know, all things considered I'd bet that Dogpen and Jigouru will get into a fight and "take care" of each other without ever getting a chance to defend Hogback. After all, Hogback can't know the personalities of the zombies he just picked.
Odds are Dogpen is gonna tell Hogback flat out, "I don't protect men."
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People are slow with the subs these days, not as if Summer is a buisy season.
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What's that I hear? Did someone just volunteer to translate the chapter?
Ninjuichi: what the bloody …. is that in your sig? a hand or something?
Don't start. The sig is fine. But yes, I cropped out Viral because it would make the picture too big. All that remains is his hand.
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There's not japanese script, so the main translators don't have anything to translate.
Usopp was amazing this chapter. He has the balls to keep fighting despite thinking he deserves to be reincarnated as a worm. It's not cowardice or pessimism that allows him to be immune to Perona's ghosts. It's just that he naturally has a severe self image problem and has to fight that perception every single day.
All of the other strawhats fight because they need for their actions to match the grandiosity of their pride. Luffy says "I will be the pirate king, so I WILL NOT LOSE." Zoro thinks "I will be the greatest swordsman ever so I can not lose." So Zoro and luffy fight because their pride couldn't withstand failure.
But this revelation shows that every day Usopp thinks "I am a worthless piece of trash and deserve to be reincarnated as a grub scrounging through the dirt." But despite this self loathing, he still gets up and fights with the others for the sake of his friends and with the hope of becoming a better man; a "brave warrior of the sea." That takes balls.
Also, he should get some cred for wiping out a half dozen zombies simultaneously with well aimed salt stars. If he can keep that up then he won't need the help of the others.
Oh, and for those who can read this, does it mention whether the horo horo is paramecia or logia? From her abilities thus far it could really be either.
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damn no japanese raw scans as of yet? i cant read chinese -_-
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Does anyone else notice all of the coffins lining the outside of the room where Chopper and Hogback are?
Yes, now that you mention it. Did you notice that Chopper was wearing disigner brand hat and pants? It's JOJO brand.
And that Absalom kiss cloe up makes it easier to notice…It's only his nose and mouth that are lion. NOT his whole face.
What is interesting about this chapter is that there are a few places you pretty much know what is being said, even though you can't read it...
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There's not japanese script, so the main translators don't have anything to translate.
Usopp was amazing this chapter. He has the balls to keep fighting despite thinking he deserves to be reincarnated as a worm. It's not cowardice or pessimism that allows him to be immune to Perona's ghosts. It's just that he naturally has a severe self image problem and has to fight that perception every single day.
That's what happens when you have a dildo strapped to your face.
But this revelation shows that every day Usopp thinks "I am a worthless piece of trash and deserve to be reincarnated as a grub scrounging through the dirt." But despite this self loathing, he still gets up and fights with the others for the sake of his friends and with the hope of becoming a better man; a "brave warrior of the sea." That takes balls.
Agreeance, here, little friend.
Also, he should get some cred for wiping out a half dozen zombies simultaneously with well aimed salt stars. If he can keep that up then he won't need the help of the others.
Agreeance, here, little friend.
Oh, and for those who can read this, does it mention whether the horo horo is paramecia or logia? From her abilities thus far it could really be either.
I can't read chinese, but I'm going to say it's a paramecia. Ghost doesn't seem to be an element to me. If so, we'd have to have Moria be a logia, and thats not going to happen.
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She didn't specify whether it's Paramecia or Logia. She only said she has the ability to create ghosts which are clones of herself and also turn people negative with them.
And yes, I'm too lazy to make a script…
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I can't read chinese, but I'm going to say it's a paramecia. Ghost doesn't seem to be an element to me. If so, we'd have to have Moria be a logia, and thats not going to happen.
That's the reason I think Absalom is the Logia of the group. Breath or Mist Logia. Sanji's gonna have a helluva time fighting him.
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@Fire Fist:
That's the reason I think Absalom is the Logia of the group. Breath or Mist Logia. Sanji's gonna have a helluva time fighting him.
I'm kind of iffy about the logia type, but I could see him as a logia.
Maybe some sort of natural gas logia? It would explain his invisibility, as well as how he blew up dogpen earlier.Mist wouldn't give him any sort of explosive abilities, and I think breath seems to be too similar with a wind logia, and if used would draw too many similarities with already theorized holders of the wind logia. coughdragoncough
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I'm kind of iffy about the logia type, but I could see him as a logia.
Maybe some sort of natural gas logia? It would explain his invisibility, as well as how he blew up dogpen earlier.Mist wouldn't give him any sort of explosive abilities, and I think breath seems to be too similar with a wind logia, and if used would draw too many similarities with already theorized holders of the wind logia. coughdragoncough
Well, Natural gas is odorless, so Breath would make the most sense. Chopper said he smelled sakura petals (Cherry blossoms), so that could be the odor his breath logia emits.
Plus, Breath would be nothing like Wind. Breath is flammable and has a distinct odor, and Wind is odorless and non-flammable. Plus, Wind would do things like create torrents and bring rain (by moving thunderclouds), while Breath could be used pretty much in the ways Absalom showed us.
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Mist or Breath could be a great idea, since it could lead to a Nami\Sanji team-up. I wouldn't mind seeing that at all.
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Not to piss on the parade, but let's not forget Usopp, no matter how cool he looked during this chapter, is going to fight a girl who doesn't seem to have much strength beside her broken negative ghosts. Once this ability is countered she could very well be as dangerous a foe as Kaya. So don't get your hopes high too much.
Heck, being immune to something that made Luffy want to be a sea cucumber is badass enough.
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There's not japanese script, so the main translators don't have anything to translate.
Usopp was amazing this chapter. He has the balls to keep fighting despite thinking he deserves to be reincarnated as a worm. It's not cowardice or pessimism that allows him to be immune to Perona's ghosts. It's just that he naturally has a severe self image problem and has to fight that perception every single day.
Isn't that the same as being pessimistic about one's own ability?
Oops, double post.
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i bet a million berri that perona will have some more trouble up her sleeve. no one gets the enel face for being a wimp. she's probably just never met anyone who was immune before (which is frankly a little surprising…) i don't know why, but having shitty self esteem does make usopp pretty bad ass.
boiga: why would breath be flammable and smell like sakura petals??
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@Fire Fist:
That's the reason I think Absalom is the Logia of the group. Breath or Mist Logia. Sanji's gonna have a helluva time fighting him.
You can't stop saying that, can you? About half your posts is about this same thing. :)
Plus, Breath would be nothing like Wind. Breath is flammable and has a distinct odor, and Wind is odorless and non-flammable. Plus, Wind would do things like create torrents and bring rain (by moving thunderclouds), while Breath could be used pretty much in the ways Absalom showed us.
Have you ever blew at fire? Breath is NOT flammable, neither does it smell like sakura petals, although perfume is lightly flammable though.
(Unless you're talking about breath from the other end, of course, but then the sakura thing would be sick.)
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Yeah, I'm not getting why breath is flammable and smells like sakura. Sounds like "Fire Fist" logic.
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I think Fire Fist just mistook something else for Breath.
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Remember that Nami kicked Absalom and scored a hit. And also Lola, when she first appeared, tried to hit Absalom and make him marry her. If he really is Logia, then he wouldn't get hit and would't have to avoid those hits too.
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So how did he get his power, then? An invisibility fruit?
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Oz will drop his hat onto the wedding hall by accident.
Oz:'Umph, sorry."
Abs:"Will cry something at Oz
Oz:"Hey you look like a duck, will you join my crew?"
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I really think next chapter will be Nami vs Absalom
Absalom wouldn't dare harm her
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Oz will drop his hat onto the wedding hall by accident.
Oz:'Umph, sorry."
Abs:"Will cry something at Oz
Oz:"Hey you look like a duck, will you join my crew?"
I wouldn't be surprised.
I just noticed, the first box with Sanji after Perona has a smoke heart in it, and the last few words in his bubble has "cute girl".
(I'm chinese, although I can't read it for nuts)To follow the trend of using a picture from this chapter, I got an avatar!
(The next Yonkou probably)
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Remember that Nami kicked Absalom and scored a hit. And also Lola, when she first appeared, tried to hit Absalom and make him marry her. If he really is Logia, then he wouldn't get hit and would't have to avoid those hits too.
Not necessarily. Remember Smoker and Ace in Arabasta? Luffy caught them off guard and launched them through a building. If they're taken by surprise, they can still be hit.
And Mr. All Sunday, if you took fourth grade chemistry, you'd know that nitrogen and oxygen, the main gasses we inhale, are very flammable. What we exhale, Carbon Dioxide, is NOT. Perhaps that's where you're confused.
And if you think breath can't have an odor, obviously you've never had a grandfather who ate garlic every day. Ugh…
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@Fire Fist:
Not necessarily. Remember Smoker and Ace in Arabasta? Luffy caught them off guard and launched them through a building. If they're taken by surprise, they can still be hit.
And Mr. All Sunday, if you took fourth grade chemistry, you'd know that nitrogen and oxygen, the main gasses we inhale, are very flammable. What we exhale, Carbon Dioxide, is NOT. Perhaps that's where you're confused.
And if you think breath can't have an odor, obviously you've never had a grandfather who ate garlic every day. Ugh…
Oxygen isn't flammable. It only supports combustion.
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Oxygen isn't flammable. It only supports combustion.
You're right, but Nitrogen is. And the majority of what we actually inhale is nitrogen. Pure oxygen would probably make our lungs explode.
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@Fire Fist:
You're right, but Nitrogen is. And the majority of what we actually inhale is nitrogen. Pure oxygen would probably make our lungs explode.
Pure oxygen damages your brain. In the 'old' days doctors used pure oxygen on babys who were born but were not breading. Like 50 % of them who actually started breading again were blinded.
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A breath Logia? Nitrogen and oxygen discussion?
Come on now. No seriously, come the fuck on.
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Aye, thanks for the chapter!
From the spoiler I hope there's some speculation material. I almost stopped to think lately. ><
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@Fire Fist:
Not necessarily. Remember Smoker and Ace in Arabasta? Luffy caught them off guard and launched them through a building. If they're taken by surprise, they can still be hit.
And Mr. All Sunday, if you took fourth grade chemistry, you'd know that nitrogen and oxygen, the main gasses we inhale, are very flammable. What we exhale, Carbon Dioxide, is NOT. Perhaps that's where you're confused.
And if you think breath can't have an odor, obviously you've never had a grandfather who ate garlic every day. Ugh…
I thought what we inhale was not called breath until they go back out. I mean, that means everyone's breath smells the same.
Your breath with odor thing contradicts your previous paragraph, as if the breath is what is inhaled, and not exhaled, it would not have any odor, and if you treat oxygen and nitrogen as breath, then the breath itself would not be the one with an odor, just the other gases accompanying it.
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I really think next chapter will be Nami vs Absalom
Absalom wouldn't dare harm her
I kind of see this…or a Nami/Sanji tag team.
Sanji better propose after this is over. :getlost:
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Damn, so many good stuff in this chapter. __ I lol'd again at Perona's face.
….so what are you talking about here?
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thanks bf…
lol. great chapter ^^
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Yeah, ty BF, I was upset about the password thing, then I saw ur edit. As usual, you deliver the goods…....
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@Fire Fist:
You're right, but Nitrogen is [flamable ed.]. …..
actually it isn´t …
and we´re damn lucky about that! -
Ussop owned Perona without even touching her… She looks like she's about to die... She must be incredibly weak...
Haha, Ussop's fight will be awesome
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^^^She prbly has more tricks up her sleeve
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^^^She prbly has more tricks up her sleeve
If so, not really powerful ones. Remember Enel? When he found out Luffy was invincible to his power of electricity, well thats basically what almost all his most powerful techniques revolve around. So if Perona's techniques revolve around her ghosts, well I think the most she can do is just get help from her Wonder Garden zombies…
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boiga: why would breath be flammable and smell like sakura petals??
I think you're referring to Fire Fist Ace's mist or breath logia theory. Considering that I've had some out there devil fruit explanations my self, I can't really judge FFA too harshly.
However, as far as Absalom's powers go, the most simple explanation is that he has a Light Paramecia. This allows him to change how light effects his body or any object he touches and shoot laser beams out of his hands.
Consider the scene where he abducts nami. Absalom approaches nami while invisible, grabs her, and then instantly turns her completely invisible. If his power were more gaseous in nature, nami would have become transparent as Absalom grabbed her and not afterwards.
Also, for the record, nitrogen is not at all flammable, and while oxygen is, in high concentrations it is an intoxicant. It can get you high or even kill you… so I think they would have noticed if absalom had been emitting it in high doses. A better option would be methane or natural gas... but gas can not move in a straight line and would not create the "beam" effect that absalom uses against his enemies.
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No, please no.
I greatly hope people don't start to treat Perona like shit just as happened with Enel.