Renji vs. Soi Fong would end in disaster for Renji. He can't compete with that speed, and we haven't even seen her bankai yet. What makes you so sure that he's at her level, Impel? Oh wait, I forgot. Impel Down only spouts speculation and lies.
Bleach Discussion
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Oh, real mature. I'm not saying Renji IS Soi Fong, I'm saying Soi Fong is at the level of an average captain, and so is Renji. That still means that one can be stronger than the other.
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Renji might be able to match Soi Fon in power, but probably wouldn't win in a battle. However, I'm sure by the end of the series, Renji will indeed have surpassed Byakuya.
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Yeah, maybe. Byakuya's zanpaktou is more of a weapon that can create many kinds of attacks, while all Renji can to is bite and fire a big reiatsu bullet.
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Yeah, but he's also had his bankai for a couple of months, while Byakuya has probably had his for decades. Renji is similar to Ichigo in that he advances pretty quickly, so it's possible his bankai might develop other abilities.
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That's what I'm hoping for. Of course, Renji might be fighting a Bankai-less battle against Zeara-chan.
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Lazzie, knock it the hell off.
And yes, I can see a rematch between Byakuya and Renji at the end, with Renji being the victor.
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I can see, in the future, all the vice-captains becoming the new captains. Naturally, for this to work Toshiro will have to die.
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@Impel:
I can see, in the future, all the vice-captains becoming the new captains. Naturally, for this to work Toshiro will have to die.
Some of the VCs don't deserve it. Heck, that's probably why I have the "DameRangers" (sort of like the "BakaRangers" with Negima only with the five most useless VCs…and amazingly they fit the mode set up by Gatchaman and Voltron :p)
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I can see the test for Shuuhei becoming a captain:
"Okay, you've got good recomendations, your power is good, you have style and fan-girl appeal. Now all we need is for you to release your zanpaktou."
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@Tokoro:
Some of the VCs don't deserve it. Heck, that's probably why I have the "DameRangers" (sort of like the "BakaRangers" with Negima only with the five most useless VCs…and amazingly they fit the mode set up by Gatchaman and Voltron :p)
Well, maybe it's just me, but I always liked Komamura's vice captain. I liked his design and I always wanted to see what his sword could do.
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@Cap'n:
Well, maybe it's just me, but I always liked Komamura's vice captain. I liked his design and I always wanted to see what his sword could do.
For some reason, every time I see that guy I think of Bo-BoBo… O_o
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Probably the glasses and the little mustache.
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Yeah, same here. I also think of Yakuza. Oh, and the 2nd squad VC would not become a captain, and I guess Ichigo would be the 1st division captain. That frenchy VC can get killed by a menos for all I care.
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I want some Nanao (8th division VC) and Hisagi (69 guy) action. I love their designs.
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I also liked Yamamoto's vice captain, and I thought it was funny how he got a ED devoted to him. I hope there's more of him later, but I doubt it.
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whose was the guy who was fighting with Ikkaku over the Sake?
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Komamura's (fox face), the yakuza guy.
His name is Tetsu…something. Iba Tetsuzaemon or something, it's long so I can barely manage to remember it
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Never liked Yamamoto's VC..he scares me. But I did make him the leader alongside the big guy (Soifon's VC, who does seem interesting), the tough (Iba…wish he had more being from Kenpatch's group), the bishonen (Hisashi) and the girl (Isane...want more with her too but its like Hanataro is the only character that matters from 4th Squad...) I could see them take on the Karakura Superheroes...and losing :p
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@SuNa:
Lazzie, knock it the hell off.
Sorry. I get pissed off sometimes. It happens.
And anyhow, there seems to be a final spoiler from mangahelpers that appears to be the real deal. The spoiler author inserts his own commentary here and there, but at least now it appears to be legit. Here it is:
! 捩花って・・・槍状の斬魄刀なのね
Nejibana…is that spear-shaped zanpakutou.
! トビラはきりりとしたルキア!
The cover is a deterimined Rukia!
! 槍術が海燕そのもので
The arrancar’s spear techniques are just like Kaien’s.
! 動揺を隠せないルキア!
Rukia can’t hide her shock and fear!
! わかるよ、その気持ち
I totally understand the feeling.
! ほんとに
Really
! ギンっていぢわるだよねえ~
That Gin is a total meanie~
! ルキアは
Rukia
! 記憶の中の海燕を思い出し
…tries to recall the Kaien she knew
! 目の前の男を見極めようとするが
And assess the man in front of her but…
! 斬魄刀を奪われる
…she has her zanpakutou knocked away.
! そこで、
Then,
! 破道の三十三、蒼火墜で反撃!!
Rukia counters with Hadou 33, Soukatsui!!
! そこで宮に穴が開き
The blast tears a hole in the wall of the palace
! 急ぎ移動するアーロニーロ
Arroniro quickly moves to get out of the way
! 「陽の光は苦手」というヤツの言葉から推理するルキア
Rukia then relates that to what Arroniro said before about “not doing well in the sun’s light”
! 縛道の四!這縄
She uses Bakudou #4, Binding Ropes!
! 縛道の六十一!六杖光牢!
And Bakudou #61, Rikujoukourou!
! 破道の六十三!双蓮蒼火墜!!
Then Hadou 63, Souren Soukatsui!!
! 宮に大きな穴を開けて陽の光を浴びるアーロ
That blows a giant hole in the wall and shines light on Arroniro
! 海燕の顔が消え
Kaien’s face disappears
! 現れたのは
What is revealed is
! あの長細円柱の頭で
That long and thin cylindrical head
! それは液体の入ったガラス状のもので
Which is like a giant glass tube with weird fluid in it.
! 中には・・・二つの丸い顔がうかんでいる!
And inside…there are two little round floating heads!
! キモイよお~~~!!
GROOOOOOSS!!
! 「僕ラガ
“:WE’RE…
! 第9十刃
…Novena Espada…
! アーロニーロ・アルルエリだ」
Arroniro Arurueri.”
! キモすぎる・・・
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Hahaha…. wow. That's something.
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I can't wait to see what the heads look like! I hope they're only gross, not a comic relief. That wouldn't fit.
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Sorry. I get pissed off sometimes. It happens.
It's cool. Just try not to let it happen again. :happy:
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I can't wait to see what the heads look like! I hope they're only gross, not a comic relief. That wouldn't fit.
If they were comidic skulls, I would love that.
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@Impel:
If they were comidic skulls, I would love that.
I think I would too if the situation was different, but not this time. I've had enough comical moments with the Desert Brothers already, but don't get me wrong, I like them! I'm not sure what to expect from Kubo considering this matter, maybe he'll surprise me.
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Huedo Munco arc needs some Vaizard.
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rofl @ Arronio's real form
Otherwise this chapter was kind of lame.
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Yeah, it seems like Kubo was just stalling so Arronio would be revealed right at the end. Renji and Zaer-Apollo totally could have gotten some time in this chapter.
Anyway, I'm going with the awake mask being the hollow and the asleep/knocked out mask being Kaien.
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I liked arroniro's design. I've never seen anything like that before in manga.
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aww i was hoping that he is the real kaien
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As I originally thought, that wasnt kaien. Apparently no one thought that was a bad idea but me. Glad Kubo thought it was tho.
We still need an explanation as to why he knew so much about Kaien in the first place, to the point where he copied his Zanpaktou AND style, and was able to make Rukia, who knew Kaien well, think he was Kaien.
but this was a step in the right direction. Maybe there is hope for bleach. These fights need to end in like a month tho. This is taking so long its ridiculous.
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I think that it is still part Kaien. The one that looked like it was sleeping was probably the Kaien part. The hollow that infested Kaien was probably the other one. That would explain how he knew so much about Kaien, because he was partly Kaien.
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I think that it is still part Kaien. The one that looked like it was sleeping was probably the Kaien part. The hollow that infested Kaien was probably the other one. That would explain how he knew so much about Kaien, because he was partly Kaien.
I think that this has basically been clear from the beginning. Arroniro is the arrancar form of the hollow that Kaien was absorbed into, but for some reason the Kaien/Hollow spirit returned to Hueco Mundo some time after its death. Then after it becomes an Arrancar, it possesses the conciousness of both Kaien and Arroniro, but with Arroniro in control. It IS Kaien, and it's also the hollow that Kaien merged with years ago. Fin.
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I think that this has basically been clear from the beginning. Arroniro is the arrancar form of the hollow that Kaien was absorbed into, but for some reason the Kaien/Hollow spirit returned to Hueco Mundo some time after its death. Then after it becomes an Arrancar, it possesses the conciousness of both Kaien and Arroniro, but with Arroniro in control. It IS Kaien, and it's also the hollow that Kaien merged with years ago. Fin.
That doesnt explain the whole sunlight = bad for the mask thing.
I dont think its that simple. At the most, I believe Kaien is dead, but the hollow inheirited his memories and abilities when they merged. he isnt Kaien at all tho.
So Ill wait for an explanation before I declare any opinion as 100% right and all discussion is "Fin.".
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but this was a step in the right direction. Maybe there is hope for bleach. These fights need to end in like a month tho. This is taking so long its ridiculous.
Definitley, I mean, theanime really is catching up even with that long ass filler. Story has to progress or else.
BTW, your sig is way too big. Check t3h rUlez~!
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That doesnt explain the whole sunlight = bad for the mask thing.
I dont think its that simple. At the most, I believe Kaien is dead, but the hollow inheirited his memories and abilities when they merged. he isnt Kaien at all tho.
So Ill wait for an explanation before I declare any opinion as 100% right and all discussion is "Fin.".
Well, nothing really explains the whole "sunlight = bad for the mask thing." I also don't understand how Arroniro could have Kaien's memories, zanpakuto, and all that jazz and NOT "[not be] Kaien at all tho." You are correct in saying that we don't know enough to come to a certain conclusion, but I feel pretty confident in my feelings for this one: Kaien's not dead; he's just the submissive personality while the Hollow part of Arroniro is the dominant.
Which reminds me… If Arroniro uses Nejibana (Kaien's zanpakuto) and can definitely use Nejibana's shikai... then does Arroniro have a resurreccion, a bankai, both, or neither? We aren't certain if Kaien could ever use bankai (he was a Shinigami prodigy, but very few non-Captains ever learn bankai), and it makes very little sense to have a Shinigami zanpakuto use resurreccion. But is Kubo only going to give Arroniro a shikai? I dunno, I just want some answers.
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Just watched last night's Bleach…and finally happy we finally get to see Yachiru! Other than that, I was slightly chuckling over Ganju's "speech" about what happened to his brother...
! Not like being a jarhead now is going to help the reunion anyway…but at least its much cooler than many of the character designs in Soul Society.
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Anyone have pictures (color) of Grimmjow? I can't find any, and I'm trying to make a widescreen wallpaper.
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I liked arroniro's design. I've never seen anything like that before in manga.
To be honest, I thought it looked kinda ridiculous. Hes like that brain guy from ninja turtles. This head in some robotic body.
Except hes two heads floating around in a jar…......The way Im imagining this looks really funny.
and he could have just read rukia's mind to copy Kaien's image or something. I mean that makes about as much sense as Kaien appearing in the first place. Maybe even more sense.
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To be honest, I thought it looked kinda ridiculous. Hes like that brain guy from ninja turtles. This head in some robotic body.
Except hes two heads floating around in a jar…......The way Im imagining this looks really funny.
and he could have just read rukia's mind to copy Kaien's image or something. I mean that makes about as much sense as Kaien appearing in the first place. Maybe even more sense.
Nah, Arroniro is a much better design than…well, that bald guy that was supposed to be Krang's body. What were they thinking to make that?
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I hate his design. I was expecting some pale, lizardy looking guy, similar to Voldemort in the Harry Potter movies.
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Man I'm sorry but a fighting twin head in a jar is one of the best designs I've ever seen
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I can just see when Aizen made that menos into an arrancar.
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Well, I think he looks damn cool and a little creepy. Now when are we going to see another resurreccion!?
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When Arrnilo is dead, with Zaera-chan
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I just find it funny that the heads be spinning all over the place when he jumps around and shit.
and when your floating around in a jar, and cant even look straight at me for 3 seconds, I don't care if your eating my infant child, I can't take you seriously. XP
Its quite comical imo.
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Well, if they're skulls. An actual head would freak me out.
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@Impel:
When Arrnilo is dead, with Zaera-chan
Meh, I have my doubts. Arroniro has Kaien's zanpakuto, but should also have a Hollow zanpakuto because of his Arrancar status. If this means he can somehow use bankai and resurreccion at the same time then Rukia's a goner, but what a way to go.
I can't wait to see this fight animated. Especially Arroniro's true form.
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I'm guessing Arronilo's brain liquid is red, but that's just me. And after this fight, we'll see that old guy slamming his fist into Ishida's face, seriously.