some fillers were quite fun indeed. And obviously some fillers were doing Kishis' work of developing new powers ( like Hinatas). And since they did that it's might turn out to be canon XD If we ever see Hinata fight again that is
Naruto Discussion!
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Well, I suppose if Hinata can, in fact, make chakra lasers, then that would work out fine. But, until Hinata does make chakra lasers, it is still a filler and fillers suck, but some less than others.
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Actually I think all of the "development" in Hinata in the fillers is the reason why Kishi is having a hard time developing her character. IMO though
Also Taboo which filler was that from?
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Okay, I'm going to go back slightly on my word here. I hate lots of short fillers in a row, unless they are just one episode and not in a row then I can deal with it. And I admit there were some fillers I enjoyed. I enjoyed the longer filler arcs with a larger plot. That's why I liked the Bleach filler so much.
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@Impel:
Well, I suppose if Hinata can, in fact, make chakra lasers, then that would work out fine. But, until Hinata does make chakra lasers, it is still a filler and fillers suck, but some less than others.
It always struck me as strange that "Naruto fillers are teh suck" unless Hinata is in it and then suddenly it's the best filler ever… I mean yeesh Hinata is probably obsessed over more than Rei Ayanami these days.
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Really?
Wow, I must be one of the few people who hates that useless loser with everything I've got.
I never did get the fasicination with Hinata, I mean she's just as useless as Sakura, having done virutally nothing for the series and yet people are astounded with everything she's done.
Of course then again, I love Ino and Tenten despite the fact that they've done absolutely nothing for the series. So I guess I shouldn't talk.
At least Ayanami Rei kicked ass, not to mention tried to kill herself quite a lot in a very cool fashion. But Hinata, meh.
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I haven't the slightest clue who Ayanami Rei is. BTW, does the new chapter come out this week?
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Really?
Wow, I must be one of the few people who hates that useless loser with everything I've got.
I never did get the fasicination with Hinata, I mean she's just as useless as Sakura, having done virutally nothing for the series and yet people are astounded with everything she's done.
Of course then again, I love Ino and Tenten despite the fact that they've done absolutely nothing for the series. So I guess I shouldn't talk.
At least Ayanami Rei kicked ass, not to mention tried to kill herself quite a lot in a very cool fashion. But Hinata, meh.
Gee I thought I was the only one. I mean seriously her character is completely pointless and isn't deserving of the overall praise that she get's from her gigantic adoring fandom.
Not to mention a large majority of said fandom believe they live in her jacket amongst her gigantic Tsunade sized breasts… >.>
Personally I hate it when they come out and bash Sakura just to make Hinata look good... Then again they bash all the females to make Hinata look good. On Narutofan alone Hinata fans stated that pre-timeskip Hinata could beat Temari, Sasuke, and Gaara... Many even believe she could beat Itachi and the 4th Hokage... PRE-TIMESKIP even!
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Personally I think Hinata is just more likeable… but I think a lot of it might have to do with her having a meekish, shy personality, and I think the typical internet recluse seems to be more infatuated with that personality type... yeah.
Frankly most of the females in Naruto kind of blow. I'd like Tenten if she got to do anything though.
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Aethos, you really need to lay off NF
I haven't the slightest clue who Ayanami Rei is.
Look up "Neon Genesis Evangelion"
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@Le:
Aethos, you really need to lay off NF
Look up "Neon Genesis Evangelion"
Why do you say that?
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Because you're obviously too stupid to ignore things like that and then you forgot to mention that they say that anyone can beat anyone over at NF, so you just pick on Hinata because you don't like her.
And unlike the certain female lead who gets all the the paper time just to show off her "Sakura smash smash" she was used very weel for the space she got.
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I don't see how anyone can hate Hinata. Just like the above post said, she's used really well and serves her purpose in the plot. She's not overused and she actually does something besides whining about Sasuke all day.
Not that I hate Sakura (more like a mild dislike) but I wouldn't mind one bit if she was replaced with Hinata.
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I have a question, did anybody play Naruto 3 for the ps2(Best Naruto game. PERIOD) but if you choose jariya and when and look through his ,oves and pick on of the Rasengans, he does this one where, it is regular at first and then it lights on fire and he push it in the person, and they go fly and till they hit a rock and a huge pillar of flames, come out. That wa before they even wrote the thing about the wind rasengan. i just wanted to see if anybody saw it
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If Hinata doesn't show up in an arc in the manga soon I'm going to be seriously pissed.
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Yeah, now it's all 'bout Team 7/10. They could at least do SOMETHING with Hinata or Shino
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bah there are still a lot of akatsuki to defeat. they'll have their time.
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possible summary
! > Spoiler summary is out.
_NARUTO
338: The Help!!
Kakashi: "Naruto!! Yamato!!"
Ino: "Sakura!!"
Chouji: "Sai!!"
Naruto: "Heheh! A hero always arrives late! Right Kakashi-sensei!!"
Kakashi: "Naruto…You... (You completed the jutsu... You're something...)"
Sakura: "Kakashi-sensei!?" Sakura runs to Kakashi and starts to heal him.
Sakura: (Even Kakashi-sensei's been hurt this badly...)
Naruto: "Huh? Where's Shikamaru!?"
Ino: "Shikamaru is with his partner..."
Chouji: "They're fighting at a different location."
Naruto: "!?"
Yamato: "Okay! Sakura and Sai, go support Shikamaru."
Kakashi: "Wait!!" Kakashi silences Yamato.
Kakashi: "Let Shikamaru deal with the other guy..."
Yamato: "But, Kakashi-senpai, that's too much!!"
Kakashi: "This is Shikamaru's battle. Naruto... you guys understand, that Shikamaru will be okay."
Naruto: "...Yeah... Shikamaru is really strong!!"
Yamato: "..."
Sai: "So, what is this guy?"
Shikamaru just dodges Hidan's attack.
Hidan: "I might be stupid, but I have the power to make up for it!!
The cause of your defeat is that you don't have the power to back up your brains! Stupid!!"
Naruto: "What!? He puts others' hearts inside him to live!? From during Shodai Hokage's time!?"
Sai: "That's something... impossible..."
Sakura: "That can't be!! If he just changes hearts, his skin and cells would still rot! That's..."
Kakuzu: "But, I can do it. Yes, using this special Chakra blood vessels."
Kakuzu: "Shodai Hokage used special cells to freely control wood. It's something similar for me."
Yamato: "..."
Kakuzu: "No matter how many reinforcements come, you'll still all be killed by me..."
Shikamaru: "Kuh...(Asuma)"
Shikamaru holds back his tears as all the different faces of Asuma run through his mind. But,
Boom!! Hidan suddenly goes flying.
Temari: "You're crying again! Crybaby...!!"_
so now its 2 on 1 and 6 on 1…....0.o
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Not bad on the possible spoilers. Looks like (you know who) is back which is always a positive. I can honestly say I didn't expect her to show up, I thought (You know who) was gonna come in, spam his new attack, and save everybody. Looks like Kishi has a tiny bit of unpredictablility left in him (assuming the spoiler is true).
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spoiler tags ? have youe ver heard of those Taleran? <_<
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why yes there is a spoiler at the top and if you know you haven't read to that point noone with a brain would read through the entire summary before going ZOMG spoilers so the tags were unnesisary
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Taleran, it's just a common courtesy ESPECIALLY if it's a spoiler from unreleased chapter. Some people read stuff really fast, and even though they want to avoid what's written there after reading first sentence, it just jumps into the eyes. This happens to me when it's written in Japanese, so I'm sure the same thing happens in English to some people.
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Because you're obviously too stupid to ignore things like that and then you forgot to mention that they say that anyone can beat anyone over at NF, so you just pick on Hinata because you don't like her.
And unlike the certain female lead who gets all the the paper time just to show off her "Sakura smash smash" she was used very weel for the space she got.
Who are you to call me stupid? Maybe you need to get your head out of your ass if you actually think I don't ignore that stuff. It's just that it appears so much on NF that you can't really avoid it.
Although I do admit I forgot about that though I only see people doing that with Itachi, Yondaime, Orochimaru, and sometimes Jiraiya… Then again I tend to avoid the Naruto battledome anyways over there.
Oh and I'm sure you're being an ass because you saw that I hate Hinata yet like Sakura. I feel Sakura is a much more worthwhile character at least when Sakura's on screen she actually does something other than faint or stutter like she has a speech impediment the way Hinata does. Sure Sakura had her bad points but at least she did something. I've yet to see Hinata do anything special outside of acting as Neji's human punching bag.
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Lets play nice in here, fellahs. This is a warning.
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Lets play nice in here, fellahs. This is a warning.
Okay… Sorry about that. That "stupid" comment was a bit uncalled for but I shouldn't have lashed out like I did. Even if he had it coming. I'll try to tone it down in the future.
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that only thing that surprised me more than Temari rescuing Shikamaru is somebody using spoiler tags on apforums.
that aside i think that it was a bad move for them to say shikamaru can handle himself when temari comes to the rescue. that's the second time this happened for him.
now i'm a big fan of those two together but c'mon. you can't say hes strong and then have somebody save him. its just a great way to kill development.
at least make naruto and company stay because Kazuku is too strong not because shikamaru can handle himself if somebody IS gonna help shikamaru
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@ultimateclima:
that only thing that surprised me more than Temari rescuing Shikamaru is somebody using spoiler tags on apforums.
that aside i think that it was a bad move for them to say shikamaru can handle himself when temari comes to the rescue. that's the second time this happened for him.
now i'm a big fan of those two together but c'mon. you can't say hes strong and then have somebody save him. its just a great way to kill development.
at least make naruto and company stay because Kazuku is too strong not because shikamaru can handle himself if somebody IS gonna help shikamaru
Meh if anything a lot of people got screwed over during the chuunin exam. Why they made Shikamaru the only chuunin I'll never know.
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Meh if anything a lot of people got screwed over during the chuunin exam. Why they made Shikamaru the only chuunin I'll never know.
That's true, but since Shikamaru didn't get screwed over i was hoping he wouldn't get special screwed over treatment in the future…and i apparently was wrong.
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@ultimateclima:
That's true, but since Shikamaru didn't get screwed over i was hoping he wouldn't get special screwed over treatment in the future…and i apparently was wrong.
Meh everyone except Sasuke and sometimes Naruto get's screwed in this series. It's weird but Naruto sometimes follows the Digimon Frontier formula where everyone is ignored except the hero and his rival.
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For anyone interested, here's a new spoiler summary for 338. Much, much more believable than the previous one.
! Kakashi & co are relieved that their reinforments have arrived. Kakuzu comments that more strange people have arrived. He stares at Naruto, apparently… As the circumstances are explained, Kakashi summons Pakkun and tells Sai & Sakura to assist Shikamaru. A comment about the new jutsu is made, to which Yamato apparently comments that they should watch, as Naruto is like a completely different person now. Switch to Hidan & Shikamar. Hidan can't move enough to go for the killng blown yet. He apparently preaches a bit about Jashin to Shikamaru, suggesting him to join (well, since he missed his chance last time, this if ever is his chance I suppose...). Then Shikamaru starts doing something, but I'm not really sure of what, but it involves him using a Kunai, the exploding tags and a hole which opens beneath Hidan. Shikamaru mentions that he prepared it before (either the hole or the plan; perhaps both). Hidan starts getting worried, because that as long as he can't move, Shikamaru will be able to lead him into whatever plan he has. Shikamaru says that cursing people like Hidan did has two holes/flaws, if I read it correctly. He lights a cigarette, saying that "you killed my teacher" It's also mentioned that his family apparently can do dotons. If I read it correctly, his family said that if he can't cut Hidans throat directly a doton would help (meaning he's going to use a jutsu similar to the one Kakashi used on Sasuke in vol 1, perhaps?). And that's it, more or less.
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! it seems kind of unlikely that Temari would show up
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What's a doton exactly? I'm not familiar with the Naruto universe.
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Doton is just a wood jutsu that only Yamato and the Shodai Hokage can do.
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Thanks
characters characters
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Isn't that Mokuton?
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What's a doton exactly? I'm not familiar with the Naruto universe.
Doton is an earth element attack.
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So his family's an earth type huh.
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! カカシ「フー・・」「・・いいタイミングだ」
Kakashi: Phew…good timing.
! チョージ「はー援軍だ。助かったァ」
Chouji: Ba, backup forces. We’re saved.
! イノ 「サクラ・・サイさん・・ナルトまで」
Ino: Sakura…Sai-san…and even Naruto
! ヤマト「こんなにカッコ悪い先輩は初めてですね」
Yamato: This is the first time I’ve seen you so uncool, Sempai.
! 「・・この敵、相当強いようですね」
Yamato: …this opponent must be quite strong.
! 角都 「・・またおかしなのが来たな」
Kakuzu: …more strange ones showed up.
! 「すでにボロボロとは」とナルトを見る
Kakuzu: (while looking at Naruto) To come here already beaten up…
! ナルト達は一行から状況を聞き、ヤマト、カカシの
指示に従いパックンと共にサイ・サクラがシカマルの
援護に行く
*Naruto and the others hear what’s gone on from the beginning. Sai and Sakura then follow Yamato and Kakashi’s orders and go to aid Shikamaru with the help of Pakkun.
! ヤマトが言うにはナルトの術の完成度は五割程度、
*According to Yamato, Naruto’s jutsu is only around 50% complete
! 「けど」
Yamato: But…
! 「まぁ見ててください。以前のナルトとは別人ですよ」
Yamato: just look at him. He’s a completely different Naruto than from before.
! 場面変わってシカマルと飛段
*Scene changes to Shikamaru and Hidan
! 「お前もジャシン様を信仰していれば、ピンチに救いの
手があったかもなァ?!今からジャシン様を信じるなら
その改心に免じて・・」
Hidan: If you too believed in Jasshin-sama, then maybe salvation would’ve come for you in a pinch? If you wish to believe in Jasshin-sama then take that penitence on yourself and…
! 「許 す わ け ね ー だ ろ バ ーカ ァ !」
Hidan: Yeah right, like he’d/I’d forgive you, YOU FUCKING IDIOT!
! 飛段はシカマルを刺し殺そうとするが、影につかまる
*Hidan tries to scewer Shikamaru, but he’s grabbed by the shadow
! 飛段は刃物を振り上げたまま動けない
*Hidan is stuck in his tracks with his blade still raised in the air
! 「・・そんなもんに許してもらわなくてもけっこーだぜ。」とシカマル
Shikamaru: I don’t really wanna be forgiven by that sorta thing anyway.
! (飛段はシカマルの影で動きが止まっている)
*Hidan’s movements have been stopped by Shikamaru’s shadow
! シカマルは『影寄せの術』で紐状の影を引っ張り
クナイで作った起爆札の結界の糸をたぐり寄せる
*Shikamaru uses his Kage-yose no Jutsu which pulls down the kunai and exploding tag barrier wires by the wires' shadows.
! 飛段は起爆札でがんじがらめになる
*Hidan is then completely pinned down by the exploding tags and wire.
! シカマルは地面につけてあった目印をクナイでうつと
大きな穴が飛段の下に広がった
*Shikamaru hits a mark that he had placed on the ground with a kunai, causing a giant hole to open up underneath Hidan.
! 「どういうことだ。いつのまにこんな」
Hidan: What is this? When did you manage…
! 「前もってここに仕掛けを準備してただけのことだ」
Shikamaru: I just set this up in advance is all.
! (こいつ・・がむしゃらにオレら二人を引き離したん
じゃなく、オレをここに誘い込んだっていうのいうのか?
だとすりゃあ・・ここまでがこいつの計算・・!)
Hidan (mental): This guy…wasn’t just recklessly trying to separate us. He was leading me here? If that the case then…all this was a part of his plan…!
! 「人を呪わば穴二つ・・」シカマルはタバコの箱をひろう
Shikamaru picks up his cigarettes and says, “cursing people curses yourself” (literally cursing people makes two holes = if you wish for the misfortunes/death of others then you’ll also be digging your own grave/bringing about your own misfortune)
! 「お前はオレの師を呪い殺した」さらにタバコに火をつける
Shikamaru says, “you cursed my teacher and killed him” as he lights up his cigarette
! それを見て飛段の顔が青ざめる補足をしとくと、この森はシカマルの一族しか
足を踏み入れない代々の土地であったようです
*As Hidan sees this he turns pale and then hears further that the he’s in Shikamaru’s clan’s ancestral land which only his clan can set foot on.
! 飛段がいうには首一つになっても、這い出して
見せるといいますが、シカマルは一族でそれを
させないと言います
*Hidan then says that even if he loses his head, he’ll still crawl out of this hole. Shikamaru then says that he and his clan won’t allow it.
! まぁ、ラストは大体わかると思いますが今回は
見てのお楽しみということで
*Then the person writing the spoiler says that we can probably figure out what happens next so he’ll/she'll not spoil it and just leave us to enjoy the chapter whenit didnt mention a doton attack. It was more of sacred ground thing.
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If that's true, that's kind of a disappointing death for Hidan.
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So he falls in a Team Rocket calibur booby trap…....0.o 0.o 0.o
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Wow, that was unexpected. I expected Naruto to spam his new attack against everybody. Well, I'll wait till I see it myself before I forumulate my thoughts.
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So he's gonna get his metrosexual ass [hide]buried alive[/hide] heh? Sounds good to me. That's a pretty shitty/horrible death actually. Suits him.
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Meh everyone except Sasuke and sometimes Naruto get's screwed in this series. It's weird but Naruto sometimes follows the Digimon Frontier formula where everyone is ignored except the hero and his rival.
Ok, very off topic what the hell is digimon Frontier?
Now on topic, God damn i was hoping that wouldn't happen to Shikamaru, but what do you know Temari saves his ass again. :sad: I was hoping that there would finally be fight where he wouldnt need help anymore( Especially since he is a chuunin now)
HA ha read further and the new summary i like the much better
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@Chaos:
Ok, very off topic what the hell is digimon Frontier?
Now on topic, God damn i was hoping that wouldn't happen to Shikamaru, but what do you know Temari saves his ass again. :sad: I was hoping that there would finally be fight where he wouldnt need help anymore( Especially since he is a chuunin now)
HA ha read further and the new summary i like the much better
Digimon season 4. Basically the entire cast except for the main hero Takuya and his rival Kouji were rendered unimportant and mostly just hung out on the sidelines. Sure they'd have their shining moments but they were very rare as EVERYTHING centered around Takuya and Kouji.
Basically that's just like how Naruto is run now. As it seems EVERYTHING revolves around Naruto and Sasuke. Even if Shikamaru's getting his moment now it'll probably be the only one he get's.
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Oh and I'm sure you're being an ass because you saw that I hate Hinata yet like Sakura. I feel Sakura is a much more worthwhile character at least when Sakura's on screen she actually does something other than faint or stutter like she has a speech impediment the way Hinata does. Sure Sakura had her bad points but at least she did something. I've yet to see Hinata do anything special outside of acting as Neji's human punching bag.
LOL no i'm an ass because you bash her because of stupid topics in NF adn that comment went on you because you couldn't figure out why Le suggested to you that you you need to lay off NF.
And Sakurais the female lead as such she hasn't done anything more that Hinata did in her paper time and for a female lead that's pathetic.
And Shika got made Chuunin because he had enough skills and knowledge to qualify , others just went there to fight and show off.
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Digimon season 4. Basically the entire cast except for the main hero Takuya and his rival Kouji were rendered unimportant and mostly just hung out on the sidelines. Sure they'd have their shining moments but they were very rare as EVERYTHING centered around Takuya and Kouji.
Basically that's just like how Naruto is run now. As it seems EVERYTHING revolves around Naruto and Sasuke. Even if Shikamaru's getting his moment now it'll probably be the only one he get's.
off topic again, Damn i thought so, i hated that one i mean i like the first two, the third was all right but that was shit to me.
ok on again what do you mean like that now? i pretty much seen naruto like that the whole time, The fight just made it stand out even more
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@Chaos:
off topic again, Damn i thought so, i hated that one i mean i like the first two, the third was all right but that was shit to me.
ok on again what do you mean like that now? i pretty much seen naruto like that the whole time, The fight just made it stand out even more
Well let's face it. All of part 2 has been pretty much centered around Naruto and his huge amount of angst from getting no Sasuke lovin' for 2 and a half years. Sure we got to see Sakura and Shikamaru do something by now but they'll soon be pushed back into the background to make way for more reasons for the NaruSasu fanbase to squeal.
After all isn't that what Naruto is truly about? I'd say so… heck looking back at part 1 it seems Kishimoto made it that way the entire time. I guess that Hokage dream of Naruto's was just a front so no one would know that he was secretly out of the closet for Sasuke.
Let's face it do you really expect Naruto to become Hokage AT ALL?! I should say not because it's just not going to happen. Heck even the die hard Naruto fans believe he'll be offered the position and refuse it so really what's the point of the series? After Naruto get's his lover Sasuke back from the mean ol' Michael Jackson imitator there's nothing really left to do. Unless Sasuke dies... Then we'll see Naruto go on a freakin' rampage...
That'll probably be how Naruto will take down Akatsuki unfortunately... and no I'm not bashing Naruto geez... I just really expected more than this from a main character. I'm disappointed with the potential Naruto could have had wasted on a new rasengan and tons of Sasuke angst. What was Kishimoto thinking?
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Just throwing this out there, does anyone realize that the Akatsuki Leader has Kurenai's eyes? Possibly a hint for a Team 9 arc?
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Yeah that's quite obvious. I just hope it means the AL is related to Kurenai, that'd mean he isn't Naruto's father because that'd would be lame.
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All those dorks who say that the Leader is the Yondaime are total fags. The Fourth is dead, for crying out loud.