Promised Neverland had an absolutely 10/10 first arc. I agree that it became progressively disappointing as it went on, but it's still a good series. Just one that started really great and became mediocre by the end. Kimetsu was just kinda nice from beginning to end. Except the last chapter. Fuck the last chapter.
Kimetsu no Yaiba
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After knowing how everything plays out I really lost like…80% interest in the series. But I'm willing to watch the stuff they animated cause it's so gorgeous. And it makes the breathing techniques look interesting.
.Have you been spoiled accidently ?
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To explain why it got so popular, it's really a Japanese thing.
It's been a while since samurai and traditional/historical Japanese have been represented in a "down to earth"(I can't find the right word but probably not overly exaggerated/fantasized) setting.
The last we had , off my head was Kenshin and Nura. Now I'm sure there's some nice anime out there that does this but none of them had the Jump label or the mainstream ability on them.
I would also need another essay on why Nura failed to gather popularity.KnY also a conventional story that doesn't try too hard to be out there, it's simple to understand for the general public and easy to relate because of how straight forward the plot and purpose is.
The Japanese, or Asian people, tend to hold a part of their historical/traditional history close to heart.Familial traditions being emphasized on, samuraiesque characters, swords and demons that look similar to the yokais they grew up hearing about makes this the perfect formula for success.
Shrines can be found everywhere in Japan and they romanticised the charm of kimonos and the appearance of nobility/gracefulness in their culture.
Understanding Japanese culture makes it easier to know why KnY, even if the plot isn't exactly mind-blowing, made it.That, and ufotable magic helped blew this up.
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No. I was current with the manga. I mean that I haaaated the last arc and the ending. I was excited for the red light district arc to be animated. But I was pretty let down so the only thing getting me to watch the anime is the animation not the story.
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So I just came back from the screening.
TLDR version: It's really good even if your expectations is low or that you feel like the source material wasn't that amazing.
Ufotable's adaption of the infinite train hit all the right notes. I walked in expecting the movie to be slightly above average and for the animation to carry the entire movie but man, I was blown away by the pacing, music, direction, added scenes and everything else.
Like this is the very definition of how an anime adaption can make a source material that was rather straightforward into such a great experience.The new scenes or lengthened moments really added a lot to the movie and didn't felt like padding.
There's emphasis on the right moments and Ufotable clearly knows how to draw you in because the movie ended before I know it.
You know how there's a "breather" every time you watch a movie? Well, there's hardly one in Infinite Train and usually that would be a bad thing because of pacing and you want to let the audience to lower their guard, you know all that flim study stuff.
But because the movie is so beautiful, your mind never really wanders off.This is just really great. The final fight was fantastic, the climax before was really well done. The brutality was done right (it really added ALOT to the movie) and the emotional part of this arc could not have been any better.
Without over repeating myself, I seriously walked in without much expectations because ufotable did fucked up my last Fate movie but this movie, everyone deserves to watch this once in their lives.
I feel like this movie is close to the perfect adaption, like the magnum opus of anime adaptions but I don't want to go there but it really comes close.I think I teared a little. Do give it serious consider to watch it in a cinema setting if it comes near or is near you, that will do it justice.
The few flaws I have isn't really flaws due to the adaption but because of the source material but it's usually the more comedic parts at the start which felt very typical and yeah, okay that's just not really funny (but it's due to the source material, there's limited room to turn the comedy up anyway). Another is that it might become a little bit too extravaganza, like a high specs animation buffet for some people but I only felt it during the last few minutes of the fight and I'd like to believe I have watch my fair share of anime series over the years that feels too over the top to make a good call that it's not going to be an issue.
A nitpick would be like, what, a 10% increase in focus in the main villain with one scene that repeats his POV that would have been fine being removed (it's in the manga too so it is not an added scene but they extended a little where he's basically saying the same thing).This is just anime on high. It was good, beautiful.
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Final volume will come with new 14 page epilogue and 25 bonus pages. Hope she gives closure for our characters instead of that reincarnations/descendants bullshit.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2020-11-24/demon-slayer-kimetsu-no-yaiba-manga-final-volume-adds-new-epilogue-chapter/.166683The series also reached 120M volumes sold (including digital).
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Final volume will come with new 14 page epilogue and 25 bonus pages. Hope she gives closure for our characters instead of that reincarnations/descendants bullshit.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2020-11-24/demon-slayer-kimetsu-no-yaiba-manga-final-volume-adds-new-epilogue-chapter/.166683The series also reached 120M volumes sold (including digital).
Shueisha revealed last November that the Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba manga was the company's second highest-selling manga in 2019, second only to Eiichiro Oda's One Piece manga
Wasn´t KnY above One Piece in sales 2019?
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It sold around 80M volumes this year, I don’t really care about the last year controversy whereas it sold more than OP or not.
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Did it beat OP general sales in 02 years…? 120M is a MASSIVE number, I'm always overwhelmed by this series' selling streak
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Kingdom will also outsale One Piece this year apparently. Jujutsu would probably too if the anime had come sooner
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Part of the trick is people are binge buying the entire series, while OP its mooostly the newest volumes providing the majority of sales.
It'll be interesting to see how Kimetsu does next year since its perfect storm of timing will have passed and the series will be over… but the anime will be continuing still.
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Why are you still saying that when a new volume of Kimetsu sales twice as much as One Piece.
2020 is not 2019Since my actual point was apparently unclear, let me rephrase.
Part of the trick is people are binge buying the entire series to the end, while OP its mooostly the newest volumes selling like the middle of the series has been selling for a decade with no end in sight..
Because its the end of the series. People are buying the whole series to have it, to see then ending. People that just binged the earlier volumes this year over covid are buying the rest to finish it out.
If Kimetsu was going to be running another 10 years and another 30 volumes it wouldn't be doing what it's doing, it'd be more like what Academia is doing, a hit but not a complete runaway train. That it was already in its endgame before the anime started helped with the hype and the willingness to jump into it.
People are more willing to pick up something that is short and with ending than they are to pick up something in the middle of a 30 year 130 volume thing that still has most of a decade to go.
Yes, Kimmetsu sold 100 millions copies in the last two years. That's amazing. It's anime deserves a lot of credit for elevating it. But it IS spread across the whole series. The individual volumes are selling higher than OP… at current. OP during its height for the war was selling 4 million copies a volume initially too. That Kimetsu is ended is a BIG factor.
I'm sure OP's numbers will jump once its officially in its final year too, though people aren't going to binge the entire middle the same way they did for the war in 2011.
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Since my actual point was apparently unclear, let me rephrase.
Part of the trick is people are binge buying the entire series to the end, while OP its mooostly the newest volumes selling like the middle of the series has been selling for a decade with no end in sight..
Because its the end of the series. People are buying the whole series to have it, to see then ending. People that just binged the earlier volumes this year over covid are buying the rest to finish it out.
If Kimetsu was going to be running another 10 years and another 30 volumes it wouldn't be doing what it's doing, it'd be more like what Academia is doing, a hit but not a complete runaway train. That it was already in its endgame before the anime started helped with the hype and the willingness to jump into it.
People are more willing to pick up something that is short and with ending than they are to pick up something in the middle of a 30 year 130 volume thing that still has most of a decade to go.
Yes, Kimmetsu sold 100 millions copies in the last two years. That's amazing. It's anime deserves a lot of credit for elevating it. But it IS spread across the whole series. The individual volumes are selling higher than OP… at current. OP during its height for the war was selling 4 million copies a volume initially too. That Kimetsu is ended is a BIG factor.
I'm sure OP's numbers will jump once its officially in its final year too, though people aren't going to binge the entire middle the same way they did for the war in 2011.
I do not disagree, the series ending definitely is a big factor compared to One Piece, which through Marineford and Strongworld reached never seen numbers as well but, through different factors, one essential being the sheer length, could not keep them, a problem KnY does not have to face.
Another factor would be of course, if we look at it on a sales per year basis, is that One Piece was already the most successful manga in each year prior to the boom in 2010-2013, meaning it had already sales around 2 million per volume before the backtrack sales began.Having said that, KnY is not only selling right now but has sold more copies per volume than One Piece period and shows no sign of stopping there.
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The really cool thing about its success is that there's people that constantly doom and gloom about "Jump is screwed because they don't have big hits right now? What do they do when OP ends?" etc. ANd it just goes to prove hits can come at any time and surprise everyone.
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^Just look at Jujutsu Kaisen. The anime is already having a massive effect. Can't wait to see how far it goes. The manga is in a really really good spot right now too, but I have no idea if it is anywhere close to ending. Doesn't really seem like it, so it'll be interesting to see where it goes from here, both in terms of plot and real world success.
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Jujutsu isn't ending anytime soon but I think we're getting close to the end of the 1st part of the manga (an arc hinted since the beginning).
Like KNY it doesn't have a lot of volumes released so it wouldn't surprise if the backlog sells for a very long time.
Actually, I think a lot of manga will benefit from KNY success and the new customer base it created.
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Much, much, much, so much better ending. What the heck.
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I really really liked this.
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Is the movie good?
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Apparently it has the same animation quality that UFO Table put on the first season. And people love Rengoku for whatever reason that I can't fathom.
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I saw the movie last night. Having only seen the first season of the anime and never read the manga, I thought the movie was pretty good and I got about what I expected.
It doesn't entirely work on its own as a movie in terms of establishing the characters and explaining the plot, so I think this is definitely more for people who are already established fans. But that's about what I expected since it's an adaptation of a canon story arc (as I said, I haven't read the manga, so I don't know how the movie compares to the original). The most jarring part is the last 30 minutes with Rengoku's fight against the Upper demon guy, which is fine in the context of a long ongoing series, but in terms of a standalone movie it just comes out of nowhere and tacks on another half hour.
Oh yeah, and the CGI animation. I know the Japanese animation industry is trying, but in this instance it still just doesn't look right and really clashes with the 2D animation.
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LOL my dad was on his phone and looked at me and said something called Kimetsu No Yaiba is on trending
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My brother and I just watched episode 9 of the entertainment district season and were blown away. This is peak shonen quality in every aspect.
We'll now wait for all remaining episodes to come out and watch them with some beer and pizza.
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I'm usually not comenting much about anime episodes these days even when they are very good but I do have to do so for episode 10 by saying WTF did I just watch? I had to rewatch it several times to be sure that I wasn't just taken by surprise on first seeing but no, the fight between Uzui and Upper Moon 6 has to be the best looking thing I've seen in a regular anime episode EVER! I know it doesn't go long but it's friggin intense, the music is good and it's a literal firework created by random strikes that made constantly thing go "is this a friggin' movie or what's with the quality?" I don't know. Perhaps you guys are used to regular anime episodes having this level of quality but to me this stands out. And I'm usually the guy that while he can appreciate a good scripted, coreographed or animated fight, it's not really something that I usually sing praises to. But hot DAMN did this impress me. And I'm not even that much into Kimetsu but THIS.IS.FRIGGIN'.ANIME!
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Fight was a good spectacle. I still get surprised how much effort they put in the visuals of the show.
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The anime version of the Entertainment District Arc really has been a complete spectacle so far. They made clever additions and kept up the insane animation throughout the entire thing. I'm a bit sad to see it end this weekend, but at the same time I'm already optimistic for what's coming next season.
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I really can’t stress enough how I did not understand any of the hype when I read the manga, it was fine but to me it’s nothing spectacular it seemed pretty generic to me, I really just didn’t understand the hype
Now I’m up to date on the anime, and holy shit, the animation is blowing my mind, it’s off the charts, can’t wait to see what this anime studio does for it’s next project
They made me super invested in a series I originally couldn’t give a damn about
I can’t wait to see more of this
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UFOtable found it's sacred cow, they are can/gonna blow other projects of them, but every yen of budget that can be moved to KnY will be moved.
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Only thing that bothered me is that addition of that scene of Tanjiro running away. I get what they were going for but I just didn't like it.
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I find the manga really amusing, it's a simple story but greatly done. The anime is another beast, it just seems to be some of the best that we have going today in regard of flashy scenes (Ousama Ranking is up there because no one is doing fluid motion like them)
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The anime version of the Entertainment District Arc really has been a complete spectacle so far. They made clever additions and kept up the insane animation throughout the entire thing. I'm a bit sad to see it end this weekend, but at the same time I'm already optimistic for what's coming next season.
Oh, is season 2 really just the Entertainment District? Didn't know that. I kinda hoped to see more episodes but I'm fine with them taking their break here and focus their energy and budget on keeping the quality alive next season.
I really can’t stress enough how I did not understand any of the hype when I read the manga, it was fine but to me it’s nothing spectacular it seemed pretty generic to me, I really just didn’t understand the hype
Now I’m up to date on the anime, and holy shit, the animation is blowing my mind, it’s off the charts, can’t wait to see what this anime studio does for it’s next project
They made me super invested in a series I originally couldn’t give a damn about
I can’t wait to see more of this
Same here. I don't hate the manga but I really find it just good at best. But the anime to me is a prime example of why I do believe if done right, an anime will always outshine it's source material the manga. It just makes me more sad that One Piece is on the other spectrum of this phenomenon.
Only thing that bothered me is that addition of that scene of Tanjiro running away. I get what they were going for but I just didn't like it.
What exactly happened in the manga during that scene? I don't remember it anymore.
I find the manga really amusing, it's a simple story but greatly done. The anime is another beast, it just seems to be some of the best that we have going today in regard of flashy scenes (Ousama Ranking is up there because no one is doing fluid motion like them)
Ok, that's it! I'm gonna switch from reading the manga to watching the anime now. Too many people made that suggestion and you finally sold me on it. Curse you for making me time management even more of a problem.
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Same here. I don't hate the manga but I really find it just good at best. But the anime to me is a prime example of why I do believe if done right, an anime will always outshine it's source material the manga. It just makes me more sad that One Piece is on the other spectrum of this phenomenon.
I still can't believe One Piece is as popular as it is without a decent anime, it's one of the highest grossing media franchises of all time
Imagine how much more popular it would be with an anime like Demon Slayer's quality, it would be crazy!!!!
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I still can't believe One Piece is as popular as it is without a decent anime, it's one of the highest grossing media franchises of all time
Imagine how much more popular it would be with an anime like Demon Slayer's quality, it would be crazy!!!!
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People try to defend the lack of interest in the anime by saying that it's just an too long series. It definitely is a long series but that's not the main problem. I know that my experience is not representative but all the people here in Japan I'm talking with about anime, be it people of my age or actually my students first and foremost say that One Piece is boring and only then that it is too long of a series. That's not to say that everybody is disliking it but from my personal experience many people don't look forward on watching the next episode in excitement and rather tune in because it's on, respectively having it run in the background. Whereas for Kimetsu, Tokyo Revengers, Ousama Ranking, Attack on Titan and Jujutsu they actually wait for to tune in.
It's sad really because while I do often critisize the current One Piece, I still believe it's a very good series. And an anime with proper pacing, proper emotional impact, proper comedic timing, a good choice of BGM complementing the composition of what's happening on screen would just elevate what we have in the source material. Unfortunally Toei seems to be amongst the terrible companies here in Japan that doesn't really catch a drift on going with the times and improving what you've been doing for a long time rather than just sit on IP within your portfolio. It's not just an anime industry problem in itself.
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One Piece is bogged down by boomer decisions and being stuck in a 2000s format that the world has long moved on from. It's so big in Japan and so incorporated into a weekly schedule that it is basically like the doraemon or shin-chan for kids. No young kid is going to sit through a backlog of 1000 episodes to get what is going on. Maybe they'll pick up the manga but god can Oda panelling and word dump be tedious at times. Of course they are going to turn it on and run in the background.
Toei has and still sees the franchise as nothing more than a monthly payout machine that pays very well with little effort and people might tend to believe that recent episodes that are better animated seems like they actually prioritize creativity and pacing over money but the truth is that they only do it because they are pretty much forced to seeing how Kimetsu and Jujutsu paved the way for high animation tv. Those episodes are an exception and the quality is hardly consistent. I actually don't mind if One Piece suffers and popularity suffers because of the studio's way of handling it. If the author is not going to do anything about it after all this years, he is probably fine with it. If the executives over at Toei collecting their payouts don't mind churning out mediocrity, then so be it. We live in a society, you get the results that you worked for and the higher ups has been lazing on their asses for decades now. I will never forgive dressrosa horrendous animation and pacing. God, I'm so glad Jujutsu is killing the sales because of how good the anime is and how good the content is. With how much money Toei has pulled in, there's really no excuse. The only one I have sympathy for is the younger animators who enter the company bright eyed and strives for creativity only to get worn out by the very same people and higher ups who believes themselves as cream of the crop but the only thing they have is experience and lucking out on a golden era then coasting through it. Toei and One Piece is really an analogy for everything that is holding back Japan, those guys never cared about the international market and is content being worshipped domestically. They see the international market as an extension of their own which is, put simply, fucking stupid. I'm glad that newer studios and series who prioritize the international audience and actually gives a shit about being in touch with their audience is succeeding and One Piece's anime pales because of that.
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Pretty well put about Toei and One Piece being an analogy for what's going wrong over here and holding Japan down. It's not just an One Piece/Toei problem. It's literally a social problem that is whitespread about the Japanese (corporate) mindset being one that doesn't like critique because it's creating conflict and disrupting harmony, which is a very one sided and flawed way to look at the strong points of valid and constructive critisism. And yes, young people who join a company with fresh ideas and desire for creativity get not only disillusioned but honestly mentally stressed by an oppressive company culture that just wants company slaves (and I'm not using that word lightly, it's literally a term widespread here) who obey and listen. Heck, in my company itself only this month three young Japanese co-workers quit because of that, two having worked for the company less than a year and the other leaving in her second year. It's a widespread social problem. There is the occational oddball modern company but still this mindset is dangerous an it is holding Japan down. I always say that Japan is in a modern globalized Tokugawa era. There might be no visible borders that close the country off from the rest of the world. It's rather the attitude that is still closing many people off from modernization. At one point I'm sure we'll have the modern age equivalent of a the Meiji restauration but I doubt I will living long enough to see it.
Sorry for going off-topic but yeah, totally agree with you Zel. The One Piece anime is an easy paycheck for whoever is involved in it. But there's no effort whatsoever to create a work of art here. It is a lazy cashgrab symptomatic of the mindset of old executives sitting in their ivory towers, milking the series as long as it can be milked not realizing that even in a backwards corperate world like in Japan some have already made their first moves into the future.
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The animation team absolutely snapped in that last episode. God damn. Before this, the last anime fight to make my jaw drop was Ichigo vs Grimmjow round 3.
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That’s weird it’s working for me :blink:
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Depends on your region.
Only been watching the anime, but did a chapter comparison to see how far along it is. I noticed the earlier part of the series they were basically doing two chapters per episode, but the Entertainment District they seem to be doing 3 chapters per episode. Is that just because its a lot of heavy action and less talking so it fits better?
I know that's typically the case that combat chapters take less time with any shonen series, and Ranking of Kings was comfortably doing 4 chapters per episode (they're very brisk chapters though) and Bleach was at one point fitting 6 or 7 chapters per episode (and why they had to end the series instead of doing filler).
I assume with a cash cow like this they wouldn't be cutting any content if they could help it, but My Hero certainly did, so… is it just because they're going nuts on the fight scenes?
