Oh yeah. This was made from the same guy who did Fire Punch.
Chainsaw-man
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! wait, Denji died form that curse so now everybody is going to meet him in hell…? Beach fans, there's your long awaited Hell Arc
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Denji is moderatelly inmortal, isn't he?
I just need a character guide, specially with the more plain looking assassins and employees.
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We will most likely understand what the Angel meant about hearing chainsaw noises in hell.
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Pochita was just a chainsaw devil puppy and the chainsaw devil mommy is in hell.
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Well Samurai had the same curse applied to him and he was fine after. Denji just needs some blood. But confusing Santa actions, I guess he will be in hell also. Why sacrifice yourself and take Denji to hell? Was a quick chapter that completely flipped the story on its head. Guessing Santa granddaughter or whoever that is will take on the outside crew. Quanxi will most likely become an ally actually glad that's a possibility since she is so savage. Also the doors in the sky im guessing one of them is the door Denji should not enter but will eventually. Also im sure the entire gang is about to experience really painful disturbing deaths.
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Santa had been a puppet the entire time, but he was a more advanced puppet that could create the mindless ones. Tolka's master is so secretly stealthy that she has been accomplishing most of her goals by using people like Santa and Tolka while staying in the shadows.
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From reddit, theories on Santa:
Santa theories:
- Master was controlling Santa this whole time. Santa was her perfect puppet.
- Master is actually Santa and the old man was just a red herring and Master's puppet.
- Master and the old Man are both perfect puppets and the real Santa is working behind the scenes.
- Santa is just a hivemind and a chain of perfect puppets creating perfect puppets. First the old man, then Master, then Tolka, and now the new child. This is supported because Master tells Tolka welcome to the family and calls the old man grandpa. Theres also the panel where Master, old man, and Grandpa stand with the same puppet posture.
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So Santa…Isn't real?
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A hive still has a queen that creates the family and the entire hive works solely to protect the queen. A hivemind still has 1 queen/alpha that creates and controls the hive, and that seems to be the Master. In this case I'd say the Queen can create other pseudo-queens, aka who-we-know-to-be-Santa and Tolka who can create their own puppets, but ultimately they were under the control of the Master the entire time. Or possibly the pseudo-queens/advanced puppets can be given basic orders and told to act how they see fit and then the Master can usurp control back and have them act however they please.
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^I do have to say I like those theories better than Santa just sacrificing himself to allow his granddaughter to take over. It would justify his hype as well.
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Sooo.. the real Santa hasn't been revealed yet? Or is it the lady master?
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For right now I still think Santa was the puppet old man because after revealing her true intentions it seems like the Master truly likes to operate from the shadows with nobody knowing her involvement. Of course, if she expects payment for her jobs she has to make it know to her employers that she got the job done in some way. In the past she could have just taken credit as old-man-Santa and then have Santa give her the money or whatever but now that she has sacrificed him she will have to reveal herself I assume.
Also, Santa is a really lame name for a young-looking, cute, backstabbing woman to have so I'd much rather she have a different name.
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https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1006426 https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1006568 https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1006569 This gotta be on the most unpredictable titles in WSJ in a long time.
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I thought we would be in hell longer for a nice fun adventure, but I guess the demons down there are so dangerous and they encountered one immediately they had to cut their stay short.
I wanted to see more of hell's demons.
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I thought we would be in hell longer for a nice fun adventure, but I guess the demons down there are so dangerous and they encountered one immediately they had to cut their stay short.
I wanted to see more of hell's demons.
I feel like the story would be over if they had stayed in Hell any longer. The darkness demon alone toyed with them and offed them like it's nothing. Makes for some great foreshadowing for future opponents but right now, Makima seems to be the only one who could stand toe-to-toe with Hell's demons.
I agree on the general consensus of this show tending to be batshit crazy, though~
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The whole Hell stuff was so weird. Panels of small sections and limbs just coming off.
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Hell and the Darkness Devil deserve to be called a work of art. Definitely one of the weirdest yet most enjoyable titles I'm currently reading, it's leagues above the other stories currently being published on MangaPlus as far as I'm concerned.
I'm completely lost as to who is or isn't Santa, however. Also, Makima is becoming more suspiscious with every chapter.
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Imo Santa might have been the old dude, before he made a perfect puppet (Tolka's Master) to inhabit and use his old body as cover puppet, Santa did it again with Tolka, that's why Santa was able to talk through him to make a contract with Darkness Devil.
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Ok, my theory from before still holds up.
Santa is Master. My belief is that she is the Doll/Puppet Devil herself or she is a human who made a large sacrifice to the Puppet Devil in order to make high-class puppets. Up until now she had been using her puppet Old-Man-Santa to act in her stead thereby never having to put herself in danger or reveal her true identity. Old-Man-Santa is a high-class puppet that can create and control low-class puppets and seems to be like Pinocchio, an almost human puppet. This distinction is important because the more you can offer a Devil in exchange, the greater powers you can receive. Offering a demon a bunch of mindless puppets that aren't really human anymore doesn't amount to much, but by offering her high-class puppets she can make a worthy sacrifice without having to incur any of the sacrifice herself. She sacrificed Old-Man-Santa to the Hell Devil to send all the living people to Hell.
She made a second high-class puppet of her pupil/disciple that she kept alive to send to Hell so she wouldn't have to go herself. There she could use her Apprentice high-class puppet to communicate with the Darkness Devil and sacrifice him as needed.
The thing is she can have many contracts with devils fully sacrificing her high-class puppets. It was revealed when Old-Man-Santa met with the Germans to take the contract to kill Makima that he asked for 3 to use for contracts and 1 for pleasure.
So, her whole strategy is to use high-class puppets for making contracts with other demons, which she did in order to gain the power of darkness from the Darkness Demon. But, she has more powers and contracts she has made with other demons that we don't know about yet. Well, technically we know she has a contract with the Hell Devil and the Curse Devil (nail-stabbing).
Pretty good system she has, being able to make contracts with devils without actually sacrificing parts of herself.
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https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1006570
! Fujimoto's eternal rolle coaster keeps on giving.
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This is so wild… I love it
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happy that quanxi is alive
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happy that quanxi is alive
Yes. There is still a lot of history tied to her so it would have been a complete waste to just kill her.
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Yes. There is still a lot of history tied to her so it would have been a complete waste to just kill her.
yeah, that too
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This chapter was good! I hope we get a proper explanation of what ragged girl did to resurrect Quanxi, I could see Fujimoto just going on without explaining it.
I wasn't expecting her to survive (we could get the relevant bits from her backstory through Kishibe), but I'm not complaining… anything for the most badass polyamorous lesbian character in shonen.I need to go back to past chapters to figure out who octopus guy is, though. I remember him being throw out of the window by Quanxi, but was he mentioned before this whole building action sequence?
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This chapter was good! I hope we get a proper explanation of what ragged girl did to resurrect Quanxi, I could see Fujimoto just going on without explaining it.
she's the same type as denji, katana man and reze, this time instead of revving an engine or removing a grenade pin it's pulling an arrow from a quiver (her eye socket ).
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This chapter was good! I hope we get a proper explanation of what ragged girl did to resurrect Quanxi, I could see Fujimoto just going on without explaining it.
I wasn't expecting her to survive (we could get the relevant bits from her backstory through Kishibe), but I'm not complaining… anything for the most badass polyamorous lesbian character in shonen.I need to go back to past chapters to figure out who octopus guy is, though. I remember him being throw out of the window by Quanxi, but was he mentioned before this whole building action sequence?
Well octopus guy is Yoshida and he is a private hunter that was hired temporarily to serve for the public sector. He was first mentioned when Makima talked about hiring security to protect Denji from foreign assassins (Chapter 53). He also killed one of the three American brothers in an alley near the end of the chapter where the eldest brother died after being hit by Power's reckless driving in Kobeni's car (Chapter 57).
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the madness never stops
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So power of light = light yourself on fire and jump on the enemy
Denji you're a genius lool
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He really deserves that Nobel.
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The dolls copying Denji's ideas… the level of disrespect!
And lighting himself on fire was quick smart thinking. Power would be proud!
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The light part was foreshadowed in hell when Denji attacked the darkness devil and some sparks flew.
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I can tell Power is going to make a special appearance soon and help in this fight looking forward to that
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https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1006675
! I'm starting to get why Chainsaw was feared.
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Power is a comedy character that happens to have combat powers, I doubt she will be relevant in a fight that doesn’t start with her.
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She probably has 0 combat power for that one attack.
! I wonder if they are trully dead. That is what annoys me about this manga, we have seen Denji survive worse, I have no idea if Mashima is just capturing them, killed the devils and captured knife lady, or just ended them and there.
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Slowly but surely I'm getting bored of Makima. Usually I don't mind omnipotent characters but with her it's getting ridiculous. I dunno, possibly seeing her take a loss once in a while would help.
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Slowly but surely I'm getting bored of Makima. Usually I don't mind omnipotent characters but with her it's getting ridiculous. I dunno, possibly seeing her take a loss once in a while would help.
Kishibe it's on to it.
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I can tell Power is going to make a special appearance soon and help in this fight looking forward to that
That aged poorly.
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She probably has 0 combat power for that one attack.
! I wonder if they are trully dead. That is what annoys me about this manga, we have seen Denji survive worse, I have no idea if Mashima is just capturing them, killed the devils and captured knife lady, or just ended them and there.
Quanxi could still be alive , the other two are definitely dead
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A Kamehameha of knowledge. Goku could never.
Makima is definitely being set up to be the (or a) villain of this story, so I'm really in for how hateful she can become. Kishibe keeping the blindfold is the sort of small heavy details that mix so well with the usual nonsensical attitude of the characters. And I suppose he is not the blind person Future mentioned before as some expected.
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Makima was the Gun Devil all along.
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That would need to explain why she keeps killing the gun devil's minions, and why devils who could beg mercy from Gun devil just freeze and panic on her.
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That aged poorly.
For real…the writer is all over the place, I was hoping we could see Power assist and chop up some dolls. Doll went down pretty easy.
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Anyone ever feel like you are reading a Hollywood storyboard with manga infused elements with Chainsaw man at certain times?
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Anyone ever feel like you are reading a Hollywood storyboard with manga infused elements with Chainsaw man at certain times?
Maybe it's just me then.Never thought about that, but it could make sense. Fujimoto's love for western movies is well known, it is particularly evident in Fire Punch.
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Yeah!
I know he likes movies.
I can't really put my finger on it, it's like an action film esque structure at times.
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Chanisaw man 1st popularity poll results:
! 1st: Power
2nd: Makima
3rd: Aki
4th: Reze
5th: Denji
6th: Angel
7th: Kobeni's car
8th: Kobeni
9th: Pochita
10th: Yoshida
11th: Himeno