I think it is because a lot of people like generic art style like Souma or Nisekoi and call it bad when it is a bit original
Kids this days, next they will tell you that ONE doesn’t have mad drawing skills.
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Kimetsu no Yaiba
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You would think manga/anime would teach people about different types of art, at least in terms of detail and style.
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The chibi art in this series is fantastic.
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It's insane that some people don't appreciate that kind of art.
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It's just so perfect. You got all these badasses and whatnot but they are mostly just awkward and then they turn into a potato suddenly lol.
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Kibutsuji Muzan just want a quiet life
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Muzan looks better with white hair.
And if he wants people to stop bothering him, then stop killing them.
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Muzan is more similar to Kars than Kira though. So we know how Muzan will be defeated when he conquered the sun.:ninja:
To be fair, Muzan has been around for 1000 years. Can't blame him for getting fed up with different people coming after him for revenge for the umpteen time.
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Except that he created his own situation by being rash and killing the doctor that turned him into the original demon to save him. He still has not learned a thing as he keeps killing and being hostile to everyone including his own servants which just perpetuates the cycle he complains about.
You cannot be constantly at war with everybody and than be surprised that there is never peace. He is just a big fat hypocrite.
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Except that he created his own situation by being rash and killing the doctor that turned him into the original demon to save him. He still has not learned a thing as he keeps killing and being hostile to everyone including .
What are you talking about, when did we see Muzan's backstory?
HOW COME LUFFY NEVER KILLS AN ENEMY?
ODA:ITS BECAUSE IN THAT ERA EVERYONE USES THEIR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS. FOR AN ENEMY WHEN THEIR DREAM HAS BEEN SHATTERED,IT IS AS PAINFUL AS DEATH,I BELIEVE FOR A PIRATE NOT TO KILL AN ENEMY , IT'S GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS.
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What are you talking about, when did we see Muzan's backstory?
A couple arcs ago iirc. It was brief.
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Chapter 127, after Nezuko conquer the sun.
Since the beginning, Muzan has always been characteristic as an impulsive person.
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Oh come on.
Unique or not there's no way the art impressed you visually on your first chapter of this series.
It doesn't fit the mold in any sense and objectively speaking just isn't "great".But it developed it's charm to us as readers over time, so it's a lovely thing.
I just don't have time to read every new thing that comes out anymore so it usually takes me a few years to start on any series nowadays. With Jump especially too many things get cancelled fast or go to crap by year 3, what's the point?
Looking at you Shokugeki No Soma.
Also, a given manga picking up newfound popularity with it's anime isn't anything new, it happens all the time. The anime hits a wider audience, and can shore up weaknesses of the original work, enhance the pacing, or add in some elements that hindsight show should be in there that the manga didn't get until year two. Bleach this was especially true, the anime went a LONG way to make it the hit that it was by shoring up the pacing, giving it a great soundtrack and good fight scenes. It NEVER would have lasted as long as it did without its anime.
I mean I'm not exactly debating that or that I don't understand how this adaption things work because it's the same thing for like Harry Potter that's not an anime.
I'm just annoyed by people who jump on it after the anime adaption has gained tremendous popularity.
So they pick and single out certain elements of the story.For instance that Tanjiro "is the greatest shounen character" or that he has so and so traits. So now they are analyzing the series because of how good the anime is.
Yeah but where were you when the manga was equally great in aspects of story and characterization?
Why weren't you promoting it or spreading awareness of it before the adaption?There's really no way that it flew under any "I read 100 mangas and watched 1000 animes" dudes out there on the interwebs.
It's more likely 'eh it's not really good art so I'll pass and it's not even popular too so no one would care about my opinion and it won't make me YouTube money.
Oh and it's too tiring to spread about how good it is too but I won't know because yawn not pretty yawn."
But now?
Now it's "wow the art has its charm great story good characters 101 reasons y it sells"
Yeah sure dude but that was two years ago.That's reality. That's how the world works.
But equally disgusting.Regarding your point about not having time.
Sometimes popularity does not equate quality but I guess oftentimes it does so I do understand.
But I guess it's fun for me because it's like making a bet on my side to see which series will last and bloom.
Being proven right is satisfying.Anime is more popular and approachable than manga. Deal with it.
I…uh okay?
I mean thanks for the reply cloaked in masculinity and asking me to suck it up so I guess your message is...stop whining?
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A couple arcs ago iirc. It was brief.
Ah I must have missed it.
Jumped onto the manga when the Anime was about to end.HOW COME LUFFY NEVER KILLS AN ENEMY?
ODA:ITS BECAUSE IN THAT ERA EVERYONE USES THEIR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS. FOR AN ENEMY WHEN THEIR DREAM HAS BEEN SHATTERED,IT IS AS PAINFUL AS DEATH,I BELIEVE FOR A PIRATE NOT TO KILL AN ENEMY , IT'S GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS.
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Demon slayer outselling One Piece this year
https://comicbook.com/anime/2019/11/03/demon-slayer-outselling-one-piece-popularity-japan/
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I…uh okay?
I mean thanks for the reply cloaked in masculinity and asking me to suck it up so I guess your message is...stop whining?
Wait did I missed my point that badly?First off, I want to apologize for what I said. It wasn't right for me to belittle your concerns, whatever I may think of them.
That said, I still don't really understand at all why you're so concerned. So because someone discovered Kimetsu no Yaiba through the anime that makes their appreciation of it invalid? I mean, where does this line of reasoning end for you? Does everyone who likes Jurassic Park, or Gone With the Wind, or Wizard of Oz a poser because they didn't read the original books?
And while I can appreciate your idea of following a series from its debut and sticking with it, it's just not always practical. I mean, should we follow every manga from start to finish on the off chance it turns out to be great? Time is valuable and not everyone is a "100 Manga, 1000 Anime" person. Me, I read manga and watch anime pretty casually. I like them about as much as I like western animation, live action movies and TV, novels, comic books, video games, etc. and have to divide my time between. So yes, I think it is natural and sensible sometimes to not hop on something immediately and just till you hear about its quality from word of mouth. And I don't think there's anything disgusting about it.
And the lamb lies down on Broadway
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Demon slayer outselling One Piece this year
https://comicbook.com/anime/2019/11/03/demon-slayer-outselling-one-piece-popularity-japan/
Because people are binge buying the whole series to date, and that's giving it bulk. Same thing happened with Attack on Titan a few years back right after it's anime hit.
Meanwhile OP only released 3 volumes this year instead of 4.
Per volume sales of kimetsu is less than half of per volume of OP sales. When your 17 volumes combined are selling comparably to 3 volumes of the other series, that's not really outselling it.
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Anything that can go toe-to-toe with OP is doing a good job!
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Because people are binge buying the whole series to date, and that's giving it bulk. Same thing happened with Attack on Titan a few years back right after it's anime hit.
Meanwhile OP only released 3 volumes this year instead of 4.
Per volume sales of kimetsu is less than half of per volume of OP sales. When your 17 volumes combined are selling comparably to 3 volumes of the other series, that's not really outselling it.
Still a good job though!Is it sad that this makes me happy? Like I want other mangakas to do well as well as the industry in general, but I love that my favorite series One Piece is still number 1
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Is it sad that this makes me happy? Like I want other mangakas to do well as well as the industry in general, but I love that my favorite series One Piece is still number 1
One Piece has been running for 20 years and is a commercial juggernaut. It's gonna take some time for a "new" series to surpass or even match it.
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Because people are binge buying the whole series to date, and that's giving it bulk. Same thing happened with Attack on Titan a few years back right after it's anime hit.
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Thanks for saying what the article already say and most peoole already understand :-). It is still something sufficiently rare to be noticeable.
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First off, I want to apologize for what I said. It wasn't right for me to belittle your concerns, whatever I may think of them.
That said, I still don't really understand at all why you're so concerned. So because someone discovered Kimetsu no Yaiba through the anime that makes their appreciation of it invalid? I mean, where does this line of reasoning end for you? Does everyone who likes Jurassic Park, or Gone With the Wind, or Wizard of Oz a poser because they didn't read the original books?
I think his critics is more about the youtuber which makes money on an already popular franchise when he should have done it earlier if he was a real otaku. There was a french youtuber who did tue same kind of video but he made the same one in order to try to save the French manga edition which was in a slump. It is a bit more "professional"
@zeltrax225:Oh come on.
Unique or not there's no way the art impressed you visually on your first chapter of this series.
It doesn't fit the mold in any sense and objectively speaking just isn't "great".Personally I prefer art which are not the generic one so yes, I liked it from the start
On a more serious side, I would also say that I don't really know how one can say something "objective" on that matter. Especially when it seems to me that the manga reader community has rather academic taste in what is "great" art
If we make a renaissance comparison and since we have 2 big expositions in paris at the moment, that would be like to say that
Vitruve man's from De Vinci represents great art while El Greco paintings are objectively not great
500 years later, which one is the most modern ? (And yet which exposition will be the most successful :-)
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Because people are binge buying the whole series to date, and that's giving it bulk. Same thing happened with Attack on Titan a few years back right after it's anime hit.
Meanwhile OP only released 3 volumes this year instead of 4.
Per volume sales of kimetsu is less than half of per volume of OP sales. When your 17 volumes combined are selling comparably to 3 volumes of the other series, that's not really outselling it.
Still a good job though!OP released 4 volumes in the time frame that is eligible for counting this year
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https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1005917
Love Snake Time.
Yoshiro when Muzan kills hundred thousands: Meh, I can live with that.
Yoshiro when Muzan kills Tamayo: HOW DARE YOU MONSTER. -
In case some people only read the scan version, the official translation suggests that Yoshiro will kick Muzan out of the castle. Also he is much more angry :-)
when Muzan said that the 2 pillars were dead, I was so surprised. I was like, it's not possible, but with this author maybe she did it for real. I'm glad the suspense did not last
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In case some people only read the scan version, the official translation suggests that Yoshiro will kick Muzan out of the castle. Also he is much more angry :-)
when Muzan said that the 2 pillars were dead, I was so surprised. I was like, it's not possible, but with this author maybe she did it for real. I'm glad the suspense did not last
I figured the author wouldn't kill Love and Snake yet. At the very least Snake. We know next to nothing about him.
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I figured the author wouldn't kill Love and Snake yet. At the very least Snake. We know next to nothing about him.
The author just played it perfectly. People bought it because the series has shown many times that there are real consequences and it was believable for it to just off-screen a character we never got to know.
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First off, I want to apologize for what I said. It wasn't right for me to belittle your concerns, whatever I may think of them.
That said, I still don't really understand at all why you're so concerned. So because someone discovered Kimetsu no Yaiba through the anime that makes their appreciation of it invalid? I mean, where does this line of reasoning end for you? Does everyone who likes Jurassic Park, or Gone With the Wind, or Wizard of Oz a poser because they didn't read the original books?
And while I can appreciate your idea of following a series from its debut and sticking with it, it's just not always practical. I mean, should we follow every manga from start to finish on the off chance it turns out to be great? Time is valuable and not everyone is a "100 Manga, 1000 Anime" person. Me, I read manga and watch anime pretty casually. I like them about as much as I like western animation, live action movies and TV, novels, comic books, video games, etc. and have to divide my time between. So yes, I think it is natural and sensible sometimes to not hop on something immediately and just till you hear about its quality from word of mouth. .
A person who binged the Gone with the Wind book and another who watched the movie will see a difference in their understanding of the story.
Visualizing a journey in your mind is very different from being fed the visual information in the cinema.
No monologues nor an overarching concern for anyone else the camera is not panning on.
There is always a reason why the original material is better.
Well, if we are talking about books anyway.
It's not really a good comparison to use books to movies and manga to anime though.Their appreciation of it is not invalid, but it is different.
Put it this way, their foremost appreciation goes into the visual aspects, the music, the creative uses of camera angle, etc. Everything in the vacuum that is the anime medium.
And while they do appreciate the story and the characters, a majority of the current fanbase exist now because of ufotable's splendid job on the adaption.The manga is an extension of this appreciation of the anime and not the other way round.
Is that so wrong? Of course not.
What irks me is the group that pretends it's the other way around.You picked up the manga because of the popularity of the anime and perhaps you chose to stay because of the quality of the manga.
That's fair, the popularity drew you in because you didn't have the time to otherwise search for it.However I'm pretty sure that Kimetsu has been known even before the adaption and did it not have great writing and characters then?
It did so why wasn't anyone talking about it like for instance, AoT before it's anime?
My disgust is not towards people like you but the cesspool of proclaimed anime and manga sommeliers.
It's annoying.I'll be upfront and say that the reason why Kimetsu isn't widespread in the western market is because it's a very very eastern feudal Japanese manga and did not have a mass appealing artstyle.
It did not appeal to people the same way Hero Academia does in the West even though it constantly tops the ToC.
So to answer your question, no I'm not against anyone enjoying the anime or it gaining exposure.
But I'm against those who tried the series, gave it a pass for shallow reason, but for some reason now creates posts and videos on "how kimetsu iz a masterpiece!!""But you can't fault someone for not liking something or not knowing about it".
Yes but theres no way Kimetsu flew under anyone who follows Jump or is in a community or anyone that reads jump for the next big thing.
It's near it's last leg when the anime aired and has been popular for a while now.
The western community doesn't talk about it because I'm pretty fucking sure a bunch of them pass on it because "no time to commit" "hurrdurr art" "shounen cliche" or "not westernized themes enough"
Now the floodgates open to "best series of the year!!" "Good writing!!"
Really now?
The community should just admit the community shallowness and don't drag the writing into it.Think about it this way.
If Ufotable adaption wasn't that much of a success, Kimetsu would never receive the recognition it deserves and the community will just deem it as "yeah it's okay, I mean nothing special..".
So wheres the sommeliers then?
This is why the community has been degrading over the years.
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The madlad really did it.
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It's fun chaos all around. And Kanroji is a much needed bit of humor.
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Chapter was fucking intense! The teamwork in this manga is just delicious, compared to other shonen mangas where extra drama is added because a big ego won't cooperate with the hero against the real threat.
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Hot Diggity Damn!
! Tanjiro died. Or is dying.
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But!
! He then something something breath of somethingness…
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But!
! He then something something breath of somethingness…
! Breath of the Breathless, 1st form: Poisonous Asphyxia.
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! Maybe Nezuko can purify it? Man this is turning into a blood bath.
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! I don't know why people think Nezuko will solve this, she was given Tamayo's cure before the Muzan raid started, it may not have worked on Muzan but it may work one her; and even if she appeared to the rescue it would mean that the cure didn't work on her either and after defeating Muzan she would die making all of Tanjiro's hardships meaningless.
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Caught up with the current chapter after I had started to read it last week. I liked the art and story is also very good, though quite generic.Author has had the guts to kill off a chunk of good characters which is rare in shounen, so props to her. Seems like the series is ending and that's bit underwhelming since I think the world building is still incomplete/limited.
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It isn't over till the fat lady sings!
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Kimetsu:re
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that's quite the clifhanger ! Honestly I'm afraid that Nezuko is needed here.
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It would be the most ballsy move to make Nezuko the new main character lol.
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There's 0 chance of Tanjirou dying. Lol
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Caught up with the current chapter after I had started to read it last week. I liked the art and story is also very good, though quite generic.Author has had the guts to kill off a chunk of good characters which is rare in shounen, so props to her. Seems like the series is ending and that's bit underwhelming since I think the world building is still incomplete/limited.
Kimetsu is a serie driven by its character not world building. So there is no need to extend it for something that was not the intent of the author in my opinion
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There's 0 chance of Tanjirou dying. Lol
Either Nezuko show up to help him or he unlocked a new memory that allow him to use the 13 th form.Or Nezuko could transmute her blood over and sacrifice herself.
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Or Nezuko could transmute her blood over and sacrifice herself.
People should have learned by now that transmuting people's lives and stuff doesn't lead to good things! cof FMA cof
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Can't say I'm okay with this.
https://mangadex.org/chapter/758173/1–- Update From New Post Merge ---
I still stand by what I said earlier:
! > I don't know why people think Nezuko will solve this, she was given Tamayo's cure before the Muzan raid started, it may not have worked on Muzan but it may work one her; and even if she appeared to the rescue it would mean that the cure didn't work on her either and after defeating Muzan she would die making all of Tanjiro's hardships meaningless.
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Maybe a near death experience and a flash back is the trigger to the final dance.
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https://manganelo.com/chapter/kimetsu_no_yaiba/chapter_185
I hope I don't break any forum guidelines by posting this link, but I just had to share this hilarious translation that's still up. Don't take it too seriously. Also,
! Nezuko is back in the game, though it doesn't seem she's cured.
We all float down here!
