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Chapter 897: Pekoms' Cacao Island Escape Plan
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I expected for a scene change, because there was still minutes left on clock last chapter. This is some progress forward, putting the seperated Vinsmokes and Strawhats into same page.
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Sanji's still smoking… So that wasn't Puddin-chan last wish... What could it be? Please, forget me:blink:
He was still smoking at the end of last chapter.
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He was still smoking at the end of last chapter.
Some people thought he might have had a lollipop.
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so is sanji not fighting snack?
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Oven is very much a thing
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@Kaido:
Oven is very much a thing
A thing for pekoms or jimbei or one of the germa bros.
Sanji vs oven doesn't work. It's worse then akainu vs ace, they would be immune to eachother's powers, and it's kinda the same thing.
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so is sanji not fighting snack?
I'm be surprised if there was any extensive one on one fights left in the arc.
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@uniaka:
A thing for pekoms or jimbei or one of the germa bros.
Sanji vs oven doesn't work. It's worse then akainu vs ace, they would be immune to eachother's powers, and it's kinda the same thing.
Sanji: "Everything you can do…I can do better" charbroils Oven
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@.access:
Except there isn't, unless you take Oven saying "Who was that just now!?" as an evidence he didn't noticed there was someone there just now.
Notice and seeing are two different things.
Sanji was so fast he couldn't be seen.
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So i'm not sure but is Sanji dodging point blank gunfire while holding an unconscious Luffy or are the bullets being blocked by Yonji?? [Based on that last page it looks more like the former but i haven't seen anyone hyping up this new Sanji speed feat yet.] Also why is everyone still hyping up Snack? He lost Mad Monk and lost his title so he could still be the 4th Strongest or Oven, Perospero, Daifuku and any # of BM Pirates might now be seen as stronger than him. No need to keep hyping up someone that was initially portrayed to us as a loser. It's not like we ever were scared of encountering Snack going in to Tottoland.
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Sanji is being handicapped by holding Luffy.
If you noticed, he tucked Luffys head down and took the hit. Gets up unfazed.
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Sanji is being handicapped by holding Luffy.
If you noticed, he tucked Luffys head down and took the hit. Gets up unfazed.
That was the hit by Yuen, if u notice afterwards Sanji either dodges the point blank gunfire or blocks it [with haki i assume].
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So i'm not sure but is Sanji dodging point blank gunfire while holding an unconscious Luffy or are the bullets being blocked by Yonji?? [Based on that last page it looks more like the former but i haven't seen anyone hyping up this new Sanji speed feat yet.] Also why is everyone still hyping up Snack? He lost Mad Monk and lost his title so he could still be the 4th Strongest or Oven, Perospero, Daifuku and any # of BM Pirates might now be seen as stronger than him. No need to keep hyping up someone that was initially portrayed to us as a loser. It's not like we ever were scared of encountering Snack going in to Tottoland.
=DIt's amazing how many shonen readers understand hyping material wrong.
Oda didn't tell us that Urouge defeated Snack to make Snack look weak!!!
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That was the hit by Yuen, if u notice afterwards Sanji either dodges the point blank gunfire or blocks it [with haki i assume].
=DIt were Germa coats blocking bullets.
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It's amazing how many shonen readers understand hyping material wrong.
Oda didn't tell us that Urouge defeated Snack to make Snack look weak!!!
It was to make Urouge look strong!!!!Yet both have the same result of making Snack seem weak. Even introducing him as fearful of the Worst Generation and the loss of his title to show that he's no longer considered Big Mom's 4th Strongest. The only hype he ever had. But at least we know he's almost as strong as Urouge.
It were Germa coats blocking bullets.
It's only one coat if we assume it's that, although i think the pages suggest otherwise. And due to the coats color it either belongs to Yonji or Niji. If there finishing poses are any indication then it's Yonji. And if it is Germa blocking the bullets, id assume all the Germa got there near the same time, so Jajji is awake and calling the shots from the Germa Fleet. We gotta learn more about these raid suits too, as it looks like the Germa may be so fast that neither Sanji nor the BM Pirates detected any of them with haki and they all just copied Sanji's speed feat against Oven pretty much.
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Oda created new type of hunger in me..
I hunger for fully healthy Luffy going against a group of decently strong fighters that underestimate him.
Like raging army or group like we have now on Cacao Island. But unlike those two situations where Luffy is on his last leg, I want Gear Fourth Luffy to mop the floor with this type of group of pirates. Series of pages where he sends decently strong people flying with Kong Gun after Rhino Schneiders and so on. Would be a blast visually and would show how far Luffy has came with his strength beside 1 vs 1 fights.
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I expect that Luffys awakening power might be alike to Owens- Luffy turning area where he looks into rubber.
Though it would be cool if he has to touch something to make it rubbery.
same here. but dont count on it, this is the standard Luffy now always panting and relying on luck on his way to becoming the pk
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It's amazing how many shonen readers understand hyping material wrong.
Oda didn't tell us that Urouge defeated Snack to make Snack look weak!!!
It was to make Urouge look strong!!!!It was also to make Cracker and Big Mom look strong - so while Snack should still be a formidable opponent, to me he's not really any more imposing than Oven is.
same here. but dont count on it, this is the standard Luffy now always panting and relying on luck on his way to becoming the pk
Ignoring the fact that Luffy just fought and defeated Katakuri by himself…gee, there's no way there could be a theme across the series of Luffy winning people over to his side, right?
Luffy puts in the work to get these people on his side. People haven't just been falling in line behind him because he's the protagonist. Pekoms would not have come to his aid if it weren't for his crew saving Zou from Jack's gas.
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I would honestly hate it if Luffy went Gear 4 to fight with anyone that wasn't a top tier. I feel like Gear 4 should be reserved for those special 1v1's and everybody else should be getting hit with CoC. I really want more CoC and base Luffy feats. I'm tired of Gear 4 after WCI.
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Dofla, Cracker and Katakuri were all Top Tier imo.
And didn't Luffy just used CoC 3-4 chapters ago?
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Dofla, Cracker and Katakuri were all Top Tier imo.
And didn't Luffy just used CoC 3-4 chapters ago?
Those are fine i would just prefer them to be more spaced out. I'm cool with using Gear 4 on anyone that would be lvl 6 in Impel Down. And we still need a lot more CoC imo. I mean we got a lil' bit against Flambe and the goons, but i need much, much more. [Especially since I could argue that Katakuri's CoC did more to the bystanders than Luffy's]
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Well, Luffy did stomp mingo in gear 4th left right and centre.
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Well, Luffy did stomp mingo in gear 4th left right and centre.
It was Doflamingo who took Gamma Knife to his guts. He was not healed by his strings power - everything inside him was being hold together tight with strings.
In my opinion fresh Doflamingo was most likely around as strong as Katakuri(with Katakuri being slightly stronger with his CoA and CoO as Luffy was not overwhelmed during hand to hand combat as much as he was during his fight with Katakuri).
Certainly Doflamingo without getting gutted would be on par with likes of Cracker.From my perspective Doflamingo is above Cracker and under Katakuri when it comes to combat power/ fighting ability.
On Dressrosa everything went on pretty fast in final fight because everyone were quite tired and wounded so it finalized very fast.
I would say that current Luffy with his improved CoO and CoA that we seen during last part of his fight with Katakuri, would have finished off Doflamingo quite faster and they could have new fight where both are healthy and I see Luffy overwhelming Doflamingo clearly this time around.
CoO boost and CoA boost that Luffy got from his fight with Katakur will be great for Wano arc. I do expect that some of Zoan users from Kaidos crew, like Calamities to have CoA on par with that of Katakuris and that they are far more tanky/ they recover faster thanks to Awakened Zoan powers. Katakuri could not take much from Gear Fourth because as strong as he was, he was not build up like Jack for example as I would compare Katakuri to Jet Fighter Plane and Jack to some sturdy tank that is far slower but can take much more damage.
Fights in Wano should be insane.
I am extremely interested with for example Luffy fighting one of Calamities - I would love to see Rhino zoan being one of Calamities but we already had this Devil Fruit used by one of Impel Down guards..
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It was Doflamingo who took Gamma Knife to his guts. He was not healed by his strings power - everything inside him was being hold together tight with strings.
In my opinion fresh …
I am extremely interested with for example Luffy fighting one of Calamities - I would love to see Rhino zoan being one of Calamities but we already had this Devil Fruit used by one of Impel Down guards..
Would you settle for an awesome hippo zoan? Because I sure would. Though that wouldn't fit the popular theme idea of Ancient Zoans for Calamities, which I don't necessarily subscribe to. My Ancient pick would be for a Sabretooth.
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Would you settle for an awesome hippo zoan? Because I sure would. Though that wouldn't fit the popular theme idea of Ancient Zoans for Calamities, which I don't necessarily subscribe to. My Ancient pick would be for a Sabretooth.
Sabertooth sure sounds amazing..
As for ancient Zoans I am not that much into it for all of Calamities. Good old fashioned Zoan tiger would be sweet or Crab.
Sanji fighting with Goat Zoan fighter or Armadillo Zoan devil fruit user… Would be sweet.
Armadillo would be extreme thanks to its claws and its crust on whole body.
Wano shapes up to be best Arc in One Piece when it comes to design potential. I loved Zou with all of dem Minks and it was not even arc with any sort of classic One Piece fights.
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I maintain that Queen will have a bug logia. It'll probably be called a special zoan, but in any case she'll be able to turn into a swarm of bugs.
This is more of a conjecture, but I think King will be 1) the shogun, and 2) will have the real dragon fruit which Momo's fruit was based on.
Also, and this is a bit out there, but I think Kaido might not have a zoan at all. I think he might have the evolution fruit and that's why he can't die, his fruit just evolves solutions to whatever mortal danger he finds himself in. When people say he's the strongest "thing" it might be because he isn't human anymore, not that he never was human. And sea stone or being under water can't be used to kill him because those just sap a user's energy, they don't prevent a power from working.
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I wonder if Oda will resist making King a Lion Zoan. It just fits too well with the king of the jungle thing and Oda's taste in animals (see color walks). Kaido is clearly a dragon, come on, folks. We've been there a long time ago.
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I maintain that Queen will have a bug logia. It'll probably be called a special zoan, but in any case she'll be able to turn into a swarm of bugs.
This is more of a conjecture, but I think King will be 1) the shogun, and 2) will have the real dragon fruit which Momo's fruit was based on.
Also, and this is a bit out there, but I think Kaido might not have a zoan at all. I think he might have the evolution fruit and that's why he can't die, his fruit just evolves solutions to whatever mortal danger he finds himself in. When people say he's the strongest "thing" it might be because he isn't human anymore, not that he never was human. And sea stone or being under water can't be used to kill him because those just sap a user's energy, they don't prevent a power from working.
I am against anyone turning into swarm of bugs to be honest.
As for Bug Zoan I expect Weevil to be Bug Zoan user- Bombardier Beetle to be precise.
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It's amazing how many shonen readers understand hyping material wrong.
Oda didn't tell us that Urouge defeated Snack to make Snack look weak!!!
It was to make Urouge look strong!!!!also,urouge is kind of an anomaly in terms of power scale anyway…he gets stronger as he suffers more damage, so the stronger the opponent is, the stronger he can potentially become as long as his resiliance keeps him ticking...at sabaody the combo pacifista+ admiral was too much for him, but we can assume he is improved right now .
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also,urouge is kind of an anomaly in terms of power scale anyway…he gets stronger as he suffers more damage, so the stronger the opponent is, the stronger he can potentially become as long as his resiliance keeps him ticking...at sabaody the combo pacifista+ admiral was too much for him, but we can assume he is improved right now .
But if he is against too fast enemy he is likely to loose.
That is if only his raw power is growing. If his speed and rest of "stats" grows as he gets damaged, he is one of most dangerous Devil Fruit users. If it is only his raw power growing then he is great to fight for example Zoans or meele fighters, one of best paramecias for hand to hand combat.
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I wonder if Oda will resist making King a Lion Zoan. It just fits too well with the king of the jungle thing and Oda's taste in animals (see color walks). Kaido is clearly a dragon, come on, folks. We've been there a long time ago.
Could see that for King; I'd love for Queen to be a grizzly bear Zoan, though I guess that may be too normal
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I want all of the Calamities to be Ancient Zoans, but King being a lion is certainly possible.
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Killing Bites gave me a Zoan that I never knew I wanted until I watched it.
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@Count:
I want all of the Calamities to be Ancient Zoans, but King being a lion is certainly possible.
Sabertoothe Tiger with a Lion Mane perhaps?
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@Long:
Sabertoothe Tiger with a Lion Mane perhaps?
I could totally work with that.
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@Count:
I could totally work with that.
Also I am wondering if sanji wil fight an opponent who can fly or if oda is saving that for his endgame.
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@Long:
Also I am wondering if sanji wil fight an opponent who can fly or if oda is saving that for his endgame.
That is why I'm pulling for Phoenix Champion Burgess.
But hey, a pterodactyl Zoan would be cool too. I want a triceratops though. Or a giant sloth.
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Obviously Kaido has the cockroach zoan. That's why he can't die.
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From the latest chapter: moon walking is sooo easy, no need for Sanji's final opponent to fly really given that they can just have that technique.
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@K.:
From the latest chapter: moon walking is sooo easy, no need for Sanji's final opponent to fly really given that they can just have that technique.
The Big Mom Pirates can brag about that all they want, but flying characters can still be some of the strongest characters. Like Marco and probably Kaido.
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@Count:
The Big Mom Pirates can brag about that all they want, but flying characters can still be some of the strongest characters. Like Marco and probably Kaido.
Not sure how that matters?, Wgat I mean is that there is no need for hisnopponent to have an ability like a devil fruit, if moon walk has been proved to be easy to master.
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Not sure how that matters?, Wgat I mean is that there is no need for hisnopponent to have an ability like a devil fruit, if moon walk has been proved to be easy to master.
My point is that even if learning Sky/Moon Walk is "easy", Oda will still keep flying Devil Fruita relevant. So it can go either way. Depends on Oda's whims.
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Without a doubt, I just pictured Burguess with a diamond fruit running through the sky tackling Sanji into a luchador's move.
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Now I started to think about Sanji vs. Michael Jackson. Quality fan fiction right there.
Edit: because of moon walk talk.
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@K.:
Without a doubt, I just pictured Burguess with a diamond fruit running through the sky tackling Sanji into a luchador's move.
I can't picture Burgess learning Sky Walk. Which sounds so hypocritical when I can picture him as a bulky fire bird.
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@Count:
My point is that even if learning Sky/Moon Walk is "easy", Oda will still keep flying Devil Fruita relevant. So it can go either way. Depends on Oda's whims.
There is a clear difference in Flying and Infinite Double Jumps.
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There is a clear difference in Flying and Infinite Double Jumps.
They are going to function 99% similarly in a 1v1 fight unless Oda works in a stamina limit for Sanji.
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@Long:
Sabertoothe Tiger with a Lion Mane perhaps?
Sounds perrrfect. Combines the concept of Lion the King, or King the Lion, with ancient zoans for the 3 calamities. Awesome!