Who died then?
At least 4 elite guards and Mr.11(or whoever Smoker had captured) Dudes in the war also. Back then secondary characters were fair game to kill.
Roshio also died didn't he?
He got fucked up but I doubt he died.
Who died then?
At least 4 elite guards and Mr.11(or whoever Smoker had captured) Dudes in the war also. Back then secondary characters were fair game to kill.
Roshio also died didn't he?
He got fucked up but I doubt he died.
Also, in Drum, when a random guy comes to tell Dalton that Wapol is back, he straight-up says that all of the other people who were on guard duty were killed (and we never see anything to disprove that).
Joke aside, Bellamy return was such a bad idea that i hope some characters fate stays a mistery forever
Bellamy returning was fine for most, him fighting luffy was what was disliked by certain people, but that may be a cultural value dissonance qbout honor and all that.
@Long:
Bellamy returning was fine for most, him fighting luffy was what was disliked by certain people, but that may be a cultural value dissonance qbout honor and all that.
Yea it was definitely the fight that soured him for many, especially since he was the last thing stopping Luffy from fighting Doflamingo. I got what Oda was going for admittedly, but I remember it being very aggravating at the time.
The fight was just the worse part, but his return in general was not really interesting. His relation with Doflamingo was weirdly masochistic and his fight with Luffy was unnecessary.
When we see old characters again in One Piece, it can be Oda at his best as a writter. When Hacchi came back, he had an important role. In Impel Down, the arc is driven by the reappearance of old characters. The Reverie will also probably be something great.
In Dressrosa, Bellamy just drag even more an already overcrowded arc. Everything about him was forgettable. Not every character needs to make a reappearance, the story has to many of them now.
The fight was just the worse part, but his return in general was not really interesting. His relation with Doflamingo was weirdly masochistic and his fight with Luffy was unnecessary.
When we see old characters again in One Piece, it can be Oda at his best as a writter. When Hacchi came back, he had an important role. In Impel Down, the arc is driven by the reappearance of old characters. The Reverie will also probably be something great.
In Dressrosa, Bellamy just drag even more an already overcrowded arc. Everything about him was forgettable. Not every character needs to make a reappearance, the story has to many of them now.
Ehhh I like it that we see doffy was a hero to bellamy like shanks was to luffy only a twisted frickin' sociopath and we saw the ramifications of that it was a neat parallel with luffy to me
The fight was just the worse part, but his return in general was not really interesting. His relation with Doflamingo was weirdly masochistic and his fight with Luffy was unnecessary.
When we see old characters again in One Piece, it can be Oda at his best as a writter. When Hacchi came back, he had an important role. In Impel Down, the arc is driven by the reappearance of old characters. The Reverie will also probably be something great.
In Dressrosa, Bellamy just drag even more an already overcrowded arc. Everything about him was forgettable. Not every character needs to make a reappearance, the story has to many of them now.
I agree, I thought Bellamy's return was unnecessary (and also pretty badly done). I don't think we're gonna see more of this kind of "unwanted returns" in the future though…
I agree, I thought Bellamy's return was unnecessary (and also pretty badly done). I don't think we're gonna see more of this kind of "unwanted returns" in the future though…
But the Rebecca and the Dwarves are already on their way to the Reverie…
@Count:
But the Rebecca and the Dwarves are already on their way to the Reverie…
Among many others returns. I don’t think this count as unwanted
I agree, I thought Bellamy's return was unnecessary (and also pretty badly done). I don't think we're gonna see more of this kind of "unwanted returns" in the future though…
Speaking of deaths and unwanted returns, I'd heard a few people on the other forum I was at before talking about Gin, and how that poison gas would supposedly slowly kill him even though it ought to have done right away, and he never did get to finish the fight with Sanji. Let's hope Oda forgot about him and isn't going to ever think to bring him back.
I am too tired to be more coherent:
Pedro decided he would die this day before he even set foot in chocolat town. He felt that this was his last chance to die with a purpose. It doesn't matter if Sanji will blame himself, Pedro prefered this to just living a little longer.
Brooke called people like that fools. Why does it matter if he had resolved to go to whatever means necessary, even death. Pedro wasn't terminal, he was fighting pretty well even holding his own against Tamago. Even if he had 1 year to live. That would still get him closer to his dream. Which is to see the new dawn. It was a desperate, noble and selfless act. But there is a slight difference between having the resolve to die like all of them have, and looking for a place to die. If Pedro was looking for a place to die, had he expressed that in front of the crew, instead of his enemy, they would have slapped him, and told him to live at all costs.
We have seen him survive another point blank explosion. Oda is clearly teasing the idea: could he do it again?
Also, the wedding and Sanji's subsequent rescue isn't Sanji or any strawhat's fauld. So while Sanji might feel guilty, it's not actually his fault. Any resulting deaths don't go on the strawhats' heads.
That was the case, until it all became part of a trap to kill Sanji and his family. It does not matter if he did not know, that is the idea. Sanji went in alone and tried to solve it by himself. He did not ask for help and because of that, they could not go as well prepared. He only needed to have faith and fight. Instead he beat the shit out of Luffy, whom wasn't fighting back. Degrading his friends. Okay, he had the cuffs, he was under pressure, he does not need to apologize for that neither. He felt bad enough that he wanted to rescue his family.
So, that guy is not going to feel bad, about his homie dying while he was saving Sanji's scum biological family - Reiju?
Pedro's sacrifice already got to the crew. Everyone but Jimbe was crying about their weakness that led to Pedro's sacrifice. Brooke already lied to Sanji about Pedro's condition. Brooke knows Sanji very well. Brooke was shielding him for a reason.
@Long:
So pedro has to come back at 100% or sanji becomes a mess of guilt?
Sanji will feel guilty. Brooke shielding him points to that conclusion. However, death is not the only source of guilt Sanji can despair from. Pedro coming back with lost limbs, would produce a similar effect than his death would.
Im pretty sure a main part of sanji learning that he couldnt put everything on his shoulders was learning to trust people, if he cant let others make decision because he's afraid then did he really evolve as a character at all? If pedro is alive but not in the best shape thats got to be expect somewhat as a danger here, sanji dodnt force pedro to come or tell him to sacrifice himself and if he's alive, his conscience should be clear enough. Not so much he cant feel bad about pedro but he cant break down because of it
If he is dead he might break down. Pedro is part of the rescue team because Sanji fell into a trap. Pedro asked Sanji to help his city. Their bond is strong. They could have escaped but Sanji requested to save his family. How different would the reaction be if he had said "I need help" from the start.
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Pedro and Sanji share a couple similarities besides physical traits. Oda divided the consequences of what happens when you go against Big Mom with Pedro suffering the repercussions of standing against her and Sanji as the one whom could have suffered the same fate had he fought back.
:ninja: Carrot and Jimbei are on the spine of vol. 88 :ninja:
Remember when Paulie and Iceberg were on the spine of volume 34?
Remember when Paulie and Iceberg were on the spine of volume 34?
I was mostly being facetious about the spine thing, but I do think that her being drawn on the same footing as the other strawhats on the hero cover when she could easily have been just in the background in her Sulong form is pretty telling.
I chalk it up to Oda not wanting to give away the identity of the mysterious long-haired bunny character in the background. The absence of Carrot would have been a big tell.
Even though the dedicated fans already know, a more casual reader might second-guess themselves and think it's a new character.
I chalk it up to Oda not wanting to give away the identity of the mysterious long-haired bunny character in the background. The absence of Carrot would have been a big tell.
Even though the dedicated fans already know, a more casual reader might second-guess themselves and think it's a new character.
That's one hell of a rationalization.
Also, wouldn't more casual readers assume sulong!Carrot is a new character because regular Carrot is already clearly present on the cover? That level of casual reader would just remember that there was a character with rabbit ears and not notice that sulong!Carrot is significantly different anyways.
If Pedro was still with them, he would have been shown at the same level. The only difference being made is: the people that came with the Straw Hats + the new crew member Jimbe, with mysterious new character in the background, and other allies behind them.
Exactly, casual readers might think it is a new character and surprise, it is just Carrot.
@K.:
If Pedro was still with them, he would have been shown at the same level.
But he isn't, and so he wasn't. Why would Oda have Pedro remove himself from the story in a way that also gives Carrot a reason to fellow the Strawhats? I wonder…
Is it Oda or the publisher who chooses who goes on the spine? I'm sure I remember seeing that Doflamingo never made it on a spine despite there being like seven Dressrosa volumes
But he isn't, and so he wasn't.
That is not the point. If he were, where would his face show up in the cover? If you think he would show behind them with Capone and the rest, you are obviously just pushing for Carrot in any shape or form. Even from volume covers that mean nothing more than a summary of the contents in said volume. read signature, oh you are.
Why would Oda have Pedro remove himself from the story in a way that also gives Carrot a reason to fellow the Strawhats? I wonder…
Why would Oda create cheap drama? To make the story more interesting. The real question is why would Oda do such a poor job in establishing Pedro's and Carrot's connection if the latter is meant to be a future crew member. On the other hand, if they are just allies then it is fine.
She has a dream that can be accomplished by joining the crew,
A dream that is already present with Chopper and loosely with Usopp. Her dream to see the world would be attained better without the Straw Hats, as the crew is already heading towards Raftel and the amount of islands they will visit are limited. Barely enough to accomplish her dream when she is just seeing 1/8 of the world. On the other hand looking for hidden Poneglyphs gives her much more places to look for as she is accomplishing her objectives.
she has a role,
A role that has been elevated just so she can barely fit in. A ship has more position than lookout and she would fit better as a brawler than a lookout. She even shared her role with Chopper and Brooke.
her fighting style is distinct from the other strawhats,
+1.
she was featured on the hero cover alongside the crew,
Not relevant.
she has nothing forcing her to go back home.
All the minks need to move out from Zou either way, so looking for a new home with them is a reason to go back.
> Carrot will join.
From all the reasons given out, not even the one about her heritage as a Mink and the importance her race could have in the affairs of the world. Or a jokingly, Roger had two minks, and everyone says Chopper is a pseudo mink, so they just need one more: Peko…Carrot.
Her fighting style is distinctive? Well, if you wanna call being able to jump in air that Luffy and Sanji can do and electro that Nami uses distinctive…
When the level of distinctiveness of the other Strawhats is that much higher though, you do not have a point.
Her fighting style is distinctive? Well, if you wanna call being able to jump in air that Luffy and Sanji can do and electro that Nami uses distinctive…
When the level of distinctiveness of the other Strawhats is that much higher though, you do not have a point.
Would you call attacking with sword that Zoro can do distinctive? Because that was all Brook had going for his fighting style back in TB.
I was trying to be lenient.
But he isn't, and so he wasn't. Why would Oda have Pedro remove himself from the story in a way that also gives Carrot a reason to fellow the Strawhats? I wonder…
Because he unhealthily loves to milk cheap tragedy and suspense for all their worth until the arc ends, where that all has to be undercut for a happy ending if the Straw Hats save the day.
@.access:
Would you call attacking with sword that Zoro can do distinctive? Because that was all Brook had going for his fighting style back in TB.
Yes, I would call moving/attacking at superspeed with a pierce-based fencing style and quirky music abilities distinctive.
@Count:
Yes, I would call moving/attacking at superspeed with a pierce-based fencing style and quirky music abilities distinctive.
Brook didn't had any music ability incorporated to his fighting style back in TB. He only did once before the timeskip and it was against the Flying Fish Riders… one arc after he had joined.
Moving/attacking at superspeed was an ability that Luffy already had (and that was the whole gimmick behind the Gear 2nd he had just devised one arc before).
Fencing may be different from Zoro's fighting style, but at the end of the day it is still "fighting with sword" so it is also inside Zoro's area (unsurprisingly, many of Brook moves were very similar to Zoro, as made clear in Zoro x Ryuuma fight).
I already went on about that in a previous post:
! > As for us holding double standards, today I remembered something back from Thriller Bark.
It was made very clear that Brook was going to join the crew since the start. There wasn't much room to argue on that matter (not that it kept a lot of people from doing it, though), but one thing that bothered a lot of people, me included, is that Brook's fighting style was just a poor man's version of Zoro - and with Zoro dream being "become the strongest swordsman", Brook was bound to always be overshadowed by him.
Sure, after the timeskip Brook's abilities greatly expanded beyond his fencing, including both soul and musical powers, but back then? Nah. As far as I remember, before the timeskip Brook pulled a soporific song from his violin once and that. was. all for "non-sword-related abilities" he displayed… and even that little only came one arc after he joined!
Still, back in Thriller Bark, when all his displayed abilities were limited to his fencing, people were saying there was no problem with it because "his sword style is different than Zoro's… Aaaand maybe in the future he could show music-related abilities". Sounds familiar, right? Curiously, a good portion of chapter 467 was dedicated to show how Zoro and Brook moves (better yet: Brook powered up moves on the hands of the much more skilled Ryuuma) were actually interchangeable with just small, sometimes aesthetic, differences. People would have a blast with that now.
Anyways, just pointing out the critiques made about Carrot's fighting style are the same that could be used (to an even higher degree) against Brook's back in the day and that didn't kept him from joining.
@.access:
Brook didn't had any music ability incorporated to his fighting style back in TB. He only did once before the timeskip and it was against the Flying Fish Riders… one arc after he had joined.
Moving/attacking at superspeed was an ability that Luffy already had (and that was the whole gimmick behind the Gear 2nd he had just devised one arc before).
Fencing may be different from Zoro's fighting style, but at the end of the day it is still "fighting with sword" so it is also inside Zoro's area (unsurprisingly, many of Brook moves were very similar to Zoro, as made clear in Zoro x Ryuuma fight).
I already went on about that in a previous post:Anyways, just pointing out the critiques made about Carrot's fighting style are the same that could be used (to an even higher degree) against Brook's back in the day and that didn't kept him from joining.
Brook humming the song and already cutting the spider was his music abilities actually.
So was his superspeed that comes from hypnotizing the people.
And yes, in addition to that, Brook also used a completely different style of swordsmanship that we had seen before or after.
Brook humming the song and already cutting the spider was his music abilities actually.
I will need 16 of these: .
@.access:
Brook didn't had any music ability incorporated to his fighting style back in TB. He only did once before the timeskip and it was against the Flying Fish Riders… one arc after he had joined.
Moving/attacking at superspeed was an ability that Luffy already had (and that was the whole gimmick behind the Gear 2nd he had just devised one arc before).
Considering how Luffy's power-ups as of late are already ripping off of Sanji's Sky Walk and Chopper's transformations in some fashion, he as the protagonist can have exceptions made. Luffy also still can't run on water, which I remember was shown in Thriller Bark (and Luffy even said it was cool, emphasizing how much Brook amazed him as a potential new crew member),
Fencing may be different from Zoro's fighting style, but at the end of the day it is still "fighting with sword" so it is also inside Zoro's area (unsurprisingly, many of Brook moves were very similar to Zoro, as made clear in Zoro x Ryuuma fight).
Yup, I remember how disappointing it was to see Brook be so pathetic in his own joining arc. Yet I disagree about "fighting with sword" being a narrow field because that's like saying Sanji's kicks and Chopper's transformations are redundant because Luffy punches AND kicks. And I could even bring in Jinbe's Fishman Karate into this. Oda not letting two swordsman stand out is a fault of his creativity, not those swords themselves as there are so many ways to vary swordplay in the scope of fiction just like hand-to-hand combat. It's all about style and specialization, and as humiliating as Brook's Thriller Bark exposure was, he still showed a bunch of traits that could be uniquely expanded upon. Including a Devil Fruit's usefulness that Oda might have limited on purpose.
I already went on about that in a previous post:
I will always agree that Oda did a poor job of making Brook seem like more than a poor man's Zoro during Thriller Bark.
Anyways, just pointing out the critics made about Carrot's fighting style are the same that could be used (to an even higher degree) against Brook's back in the day and that didn't kept him from joining.
Except I don't see how piercing claws, lightning, jumping high, and a Super Saiyan flying transformation that can only work during a Full Moon can get expanded upon or stand out enough from the rest of the crew. But Oda did fortunately realize that what Brook needed was specializations for him to stand out in that Zoro couldn't do.
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Oda limited Brook's abilities (as well as his design, there's no way Brook was keeping those raggedy-ass clothes and having a Victorian suit alongside Sanji's business formal attire for too long) precisely because the timeskip was approaching so soon. So rather than throw everything he might have planned ahead of time onto Brook, he might have thought it would be better to save the best ideas for later. Hence why we get freezing slices, ghost summoning, and hypnotization post-timeskip. Honestly, I think Brook got the most new content out of the timeskip. I don't mean to say this mere theory can count as evidence, but evaluating the context could justify why Brook and Carrot's cases are different.
The only Straw Hats' whose fighting styles fundamentally changed during the entirety of pre-timeskip are Luffy, Usopp, and Nami (Iron cutting, Asura, Diable Jambe, and Monster Chopper are mainly used as rare finishing moves than really changing up how they recurrently fight). The first case is standard shonen protagonist power-ups, the latter two happened VERY gradually after a long while of these characters being practically useless as individual fighters aside from supporting their teammates, gags, and fighting fodder. And Zoro's 108 Pound Ho can count I suppose as Zoro's first air slash attack.
So I don't really have much faith in the whole "Carrot can get a more unique fighting style and personality like a main character should be expected to have from the get-go" notion.
@.access:
Would you call attacking with sword that Zoro can do distinctive? Because that was all Brook had going for his fighting style back in TB.
The difference is that Brooke had two years to develop more, while Carrot will not get a timeskip to do so.
@Count Mario
The thing is, even though fencing is a completely different style from Zoro's santoryu, that's not the kind of difference that stands out in a manga like this. It would be in a samurai manga, but not in a general battle manga. And the proof of that is that some moments of Ryuma x Zoro had scenes where both styles were basically mirroring each other.
Brook had a lot going for him in other aspects and Carrot has a lot going against her. But as far as fighting style is concerned, his case basically makes any "carrot can't do anything new so she can't join" argument void.
@K.:
The difference is that Brooke had two years to develop more, while Carrot will not get a timeskip to do so.
And Carrot has a SSJ form with abilities Oda can keep developing as much as he wants if he wants so. We didn't even saw Carrot fighting in her Sulong form, so there is no reason to believe we saw everything she can do in that state. Oda can easily keep pulling new tricks from there and even say there are more she can develop later.
@.access:
@Count Mario
The thing is, even though fencing is a completely different style from Zoro's santoryu, that's not the kind of difference that stands out in a manga like this. It would be in a samurai manga, but not in a general battle manga. And the proof of that is that some moments of Ryuma x Zoro had scenes where both styles were basically mirroring each other.
Brook had a lot going for him in other aspects and Carrot has a lot going against her. But as far as fighting style is concerned, his case basically makes any "carrot can't do anything new so she can't join" argument void.
I think it could stand out very easily in a general battle manga if the author actually tried, but I get your point.
Oda giving Sulong more and more abilities is not the progress I would like to see from that form, because as you said the limits of it have not been presented. How it mixes and mingles with electro.
I think Pekoms cannot control his Sulong form, maybe cannot even produce electro. And Cat saying someone should keep Pekoms in check could refer to that inability. Then his design is more relevant, the constant shades to avoid the effects, maybe the reason he seeked a devil fruit in the first place. The signs of an outcast, maybe the words Pedro told Carrot were first told to Pekoms.
Pekoms will join. Jajaja
If Oda can make kicking work as a fighting style, then he can make teeth + electricity + strange clawed glove weapon + transformation work too.
Oda didn't do anything new with kicking giving how many arts involve it or have it on the name: kickboxing. Sanji mixing capoeira, muay thai and kickboxing as his style is completely normal.
Alrighty, that crosses out the "Pekoms saved Pedro" theory.
Alrighty, that crosses out the "Pekoms saved Pedro" theory.
Or he pretends he is dead becaues Brulee is there
Between the latest chapter, and his plan for saving the Straw Hats on Zou being to tell Big Mom that they captured Caesar, but he let the Straw Hats get away, Pekoms doesn't exactly strike me as a natural (or very good) liar.
Alrighty, that crosses out the "Pekoms saved Pedro" theory.
Also, if I were to guess, Pekoms is very likely to reform the Nox pirates and lead them under Luffy at this point. He can't do that if Pedro is still alive.
Why not? Pedro acts as an advisor while Pekoms and Carrot are the leaders.
The funny thing is, that Pekoms seems to not have gone to check on Pedro, which I find extremely weird, but I guess putting that costume take the time he could be doing that.
And his line doesn't confirm anything because he knows that Pedro sacrificed himself from before to let the Straw Hats escape. Oda is clever to keep teasing a death. But if the last request line had anything to do with him, that could lead to Pedro being dead. It is just a shame, one of the few important deaths on present time, handle like an after thought.
Because even if Pedro lives he's going to drop dead soon from lack of life force.
@K.:
Oda didn't do anything new with kicking giving how many arts involve it or have it on the name: kickboxing. Sanji mixing capoeira, muay thai and kickboxing as his style is completely normal.
Also, Savate and Tae Kwon Do, too.
But missing life force has the easiest answer. Big Mom just gives it back. Either when she becomes friendly( I hope not soon) or with whatever happens with the cake.
I would like it if he did not get back his life force. Maybe in the epilogue.
I hope Pedro's natural life expectancy is around 1/2 a year or up to 2 years. That makes it short enough, but with enough time for him to see Luffy set upon the new dawn. Pedro, whom was looking to end his life with a purpose. Should learn to keep living at all costs, no matter how little time you have left. Especially if Pedro feels he should just die because he has almost no time left and if he lost limbs.
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Scratch Pekoms off the list, he is too emotional to even consider checking the body anyways. Someone has a reason, and he should start escaping soon. He will probably want to photograph the place where an ally of the Straw Hats fell to aid in the greatest escape of all time. When he sees the body...
At least that is what a good reporter would do.
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Because even if Pedro lives he's going to drop dead soon from lack of life force.
But if that is the case, then reforming the Nox Pirates wouldn't be a problem? Weren't you saying that him being alive prevents Pekoms from reforming the Nox Pirates?
@K.:
But if that is the case, then reforming the Nox Pirates wouldn't be a problem? Weren't you saying that him being alive prevents Pekoms from reforming the Nox Pirates?
He's not going to reform the Nox pirates if Pedro is still alive and I don't see Pedro reforming the Nox pirates, hanging on a few weeks/months, and then passing the mantle to Pekoms.
Why can't Pedro ask Pekoms and Carrot to continue his mission?, if he is going to die really soon. We don't know how long Pedro has to live. It could have been that day, the next one, next week. No one knows. He just knows he has less.
Oda is giving himself less outs for Pedro's survival that's for sure, he has done worse though.
@K.:
Why can't Pedro ask Pekoms and Carrot to continue his mission?
Oh, it definitely could happen, I just don't think it works narratively to bring him back just to take him away again.
@K.:
Oda is giving himself less outs for Pedro's survival that's for sure, he has done worse though.
Has he? Pell got blasted in friendly territory and a doctor found him. Pagaya landed close to friendly ships. The G5 marines weren't subject to something that killed them instantly and two world-tier doctors got to them in time. We never actually saw how the Bon Clay/Magellan fight happened. Sabo was unclear and had hints of being alive in the very next chapter.
Pedro is in enemy territory, the blast was in front of him and he had his back to the ground, he was waving death-flags left right and center, someone who was right next to him and swore vengeance against him is looking for retribution elsewhere instead of on the guy who was right there, and now his only possible ally we know of just confirmed that he didn't help him.
If Oda brings Pedro back it will be a bigger asspull than any non-death ever before.
Pedro's bombs were weaker than Pell's.
Perospero had to help his mom walk on the ocean. No time for revenge.
Which world tier doctors? Chopper and Law only helped the children. The only thing you needed to do to get out of paralysis was someone to knock you over. Oda had us an entire arc talking about the oh so deadly poison and it got resolved with a gag.
Yeah, I don't think he would bring him back to kill him. But probably just bring him back.
@K.:
Pedro's bombs were weaker than Pell's.
Perospero had to help his mom walk on the ocean. No time for revenge.
Which world tier doctors? Chopper and Law only helped the children. The only thing you needed to do to get out of paralysis was someone to knock you over. Oda had us an entire arc talking about the oh so deadly poison and it got resolved with a gag.
Yeah, I don't think he would bring him back to kill him. But probably just bring him back.
Best case is big mom's "life return" to pedro fixes things
Worse is he just survived and nobody questions it at all
Edit: Also my crack pell theory for some longshot to how he lived is Nico Robin significantly cut down the explosive force of the bomb because she didnt actually want that many people to die. She did fake out igaram dying and I could see her replacing some powder with fireworks or whatever idk.
@K.:
Why can't Pedro ask Pekoms and Carrot to continue his mission?, if he is going to die really soon. We don't know how long Pedro has to live. It could have been that day, the next one, next week. No one knows. He just knows he has less.
Oda is giving himself less outs for Pedro's survival that's for sure, he has done worse though.
Pedro asked Carrot to continue the mission of helping the Straw Hats bring forth the new dawn. That dawn was one of the guiding principles of the Nox Pirates, but one doesn't have to be a Nox Pirate to continue that legacy.