Greg could know stuff so he just avoids it for the most part to not leak anything.
That and were not privy enough for it since we haven't given our soul to Oda :P
Is there some sort of ceremony to do this? Asking for a friend 
Next Strawhat Crewmate (Vol. 6)
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Is there some sort of ceremony to do this? Asking for a friend
Oda just uses the Soul Soul fruit to do it.
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I do agree Carrot's transformation is quite cool, and I like her design; but a reason she won't join the crew is the fact that Luffy was not there to see it at all; since he would be like "oh cool", etc., which would have given bonus points to Carrot's case. Besides that, ever since the Minks were introduced, it always felt like to me, that most of them will be part of the Strawhat fleet, which includes Carrot of course.
Plus, having two people join the crew in the same arc never happened in the past; and I doubt it happen this time, since we are coming close to getting the crew completed; so basically this is Jinbei's arc to join the crew, and no one else to join at the same time as him. Honestly, people should not be disappointed if Carrot does not join the main crew, as she will still be a part of the Grand Fleet; so really there is no loss there.
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I've been penning together a piece on that. I'm at work at the moment, but I'm planning to post some of it later today.
Sounds like a fun conversation.
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Carrot seemed like she lost more chances now that she has a power up that happens once a month. Almost the entire East Blue + Grand Line sagas were assumed to be near 3 months total judging by the day/night cycle + assumed travel time in the anime right? I'm not sure if I want to see another limit-breaking excuse.
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I still don't see why everyone thinks the grand fleet will get more members
Granted at the end of the series they'll team up with just about everyone they've had an impact on, especially fishamn island, minks, and samurai
but I think allies at the end war and those who are considered part of the grand fleet, the seven captains under them, are two different things
mainly because that one moment with the sake cups and the narration that happened afterwards were tied to those specific members who were there and created a bond different from what the other allies have, the moment was indeed special
I do see the end war having a lot more allies but I just don't think being allies = part of the grand fleetā¦.. and who knows maybe I'm wrong
I do think we will have a scene where Usopp says he has 8,000 followers, and the enemy will then call him out on his "bluff", and then see 8,000 allies appear behind him
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Has Oda ever stated that the world of One Piece follows earth's lunar cycle? I mean, as far as I know, it's completely possible for there to be a full moon every 7 to 10 days in world.
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Even if the series has an abnormal lunar cycle or not, Oda should have made note of that at some point in the manga in a more apparent fashion than that one globe in Robin's flashback. Assuming it isn't just outdated.
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I would assume they have their own cycles. I wonder if they'll be some event where all 7 align themselves with the sun.
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Does Enel knows there are other 6 moons?
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I still don't see why everyone thinks the grand fleet will get more members
Because Usopp needs 8000 followers at the end of the series. And because the exact number the fleet has right now is a really weird number.
And Oda set the extended fleet up precisely so he could add permanent side characters without adding to the crew.p
I do think we will have a scene where Usopp says he has 8,000 followers, and the enemy will then call him out on his "bluff", and then see 8,000 allies appear behind him
Well if you already knew the answer why ask the question!
@Count:Even if the series has an abnormal lunar cycle or not, Oda should have made note of that at some point in the manga in a more apparent fashion than that one globe in Robin's flashback. Assuming it isn't just outdated.
Best I've seen is that they spent more time on Zou than we previously thought while Chopper tended to the elephants wounds. But even that feels unfair when it seemed we were on a speedy timetable before.
This one feels like a case where Oda planned on the big reveal for Wano, but then the Cake arc expanded past his original plans and so he had to pull out a few more stops ahead of time.
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I wouldn't be surprised if later on Oda introduces some sort of Moon Stones that Minks can use to turn into Ceylons.
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As might have been obvious, I've been pretty pleased with the developments from ch. 888. It's not solid evidence for improving Carrot's chances of course, but it does prove that she was brought along to shake things up in a big way.
That said, I've wanted to theorize about what we can expect for the crewmate following Jinbe, whoever that may be. Carrot could be one big red herring after all, but there are some things I'm feeling pretty confident about. I'll split up my thoughts into a few posts here, and I really want to humbly take in any thoughts or criticisms you all may have.
1. There Will Be A Third Female Straw Hat Member
In the first chapter, Luffy stated he wanted ten people on his crew. We know from Databook Green that at least two years before the serialization started, Oda had a solid part of the crew in mind, and the number 11 was most likely in Oda's head even then.
In the first draft, Usopp and Franky were not directly planned but had analogous versions in the older sharpshooter/vice captain, the botanist and the shipwright fish (which was utilized in Hachi's cover story). Notably missing, however, is any character close to Robin. There is neither an archaeologist nor an overtly female crewmember besides Nami. This does not match up with Oda's M.O.: he would never have envisioned a main cast with 8-10 guys and only one girl.
The second cast sketch is from just after the start of the serialization and is closer to the final version. Everyone including Robin and up to Brook is there in some form. Notice how Jinbe is still absent when we know he was planned well before Arlong Park. Considering the fact that Franky's right arm is not fully drawn, I think it's clear at least one character was looperased.
We know why Jinbe would have had to be erased from one or both of the sketches: his fishman features and large size were physical traits too obvious to be left or passed off as someone unrelated. That's the same reason why I believe whatever female character there was in the first sketch also had to be erased: she had some sort of physical feature too unique and too identifyable to be passed off as proto-Robin. If she had, just as an example, a set of rabbit ears, that'd be a dead giveaway. It could also have been a samurai woman, a geisha, etc. Whatever it was, that trait was still intended to be a part of her at least up to 2010.
In short, I'm confident that at least two women were always in the cards, and the later addition of Robin simply brought it up to three.
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The thing is while some say that carrot still needs more development to be a strawhat, and I absolutely agree, she's steadily moving beyond what previous side characters in arcs got for a spotlight, except Law and Vivi really. Oda has something in plan I feel. Especially with this power-up, that didnt seem like something that will just go away. I agree with another member on here (forgot you, forgive me) that if carrot doesnt join chopper might learn this power.
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
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The thing is while some say that carrot still needs more development to be a strawhat, and I absolutely agree, she's steadily moving beyond what previous side characters in arcs got for a spotlight, except Law and Vivi really. Oda has something in plan I feel. Especially with this power-up, that didnt seem like something that will just go away. I agree with another member on here (forgot you, forgive me) that if carrot doesnt join chopper might learn this power.
If you reek of a side character, you sure will.
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Carrot's plot relevance will fade away akin to that of the lunar cycle. Her eminence is greatest right now during the full moon, but she will gradually recede back to being as overshadowed as a new moon.
Truly, if Carrot wants to fulfill Pedro's wish of supporting a new dawn, she must eventually step away from the gleaming sunlight that is the Straw Hat crew. Sun and moon cannot overlap aside from the occasional eclipse. Not unlike the few future team-ups she will have with the Straw Hats in Wano Country and the Final War, but being pushed out of view in the meanwhile once the day breaks.
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If you reek of a side character, you sure will.
So oda will introduce that powerup but only use it now and in wano and then maybe one time in the final war? Nah that's probably gonna be introduced in the crew either via carrot or chopper learns it (as attention was clearly put on him observing it ). Oda making chopper look like a masculine version of this, that can beast mode is something it would be nice to see if he's gonna improve enough to fight with stronger people. )
He was literally made into a sucker by perospero, and him and brook both showed regret they couldnt do anything to stop him which then made pedro take a rash action. Im hoping oda has maybe the inspiration to make a badass form. This for the strawhat people have been most underwhelmed with since the timeskip. And while oda usually doesnt want to make things too cool itd still work with choppers attitude being the same and since he's already chibi the stark difference would be nice.
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Carrot's plot relevance will fade away akin to that of the lunar cycle. Her eminence is greatest right now during the full moon, but she will gradually recede back to being as overshadowed as a new moon.
Truly, if Carrot wants to fulfill Pedro's wish of supporting a new dawn, she must eventually step away from the gleaming sunlight that is the Straw Hat crew. Sun and moon cannot overlap aside from the occasional eclipse. Not unlike the few future team-ups she will have with the Straw Hats in Wano Country and the Final War, but being pushed out of view in the meanwhile once the day breaks.
Spoken like a true poet
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@Count:
Carrot's plot relevance will fade away akin to that of the lunar cycle. Her eminence is greatest right now during the full moon, but she will gradually recede back to being as overshadowed as a new moon.
Truly, if Carrot wants to fulfill Pedro's wish of supporting a new dawn, she must eventually step away from the gleaming sunlight that is the Straw Hat crew. Sun and moon cannot overlap aside from the occasional eclipse. Not unlike the few future team-ups she will have with the Straw Hats in Wano Country and the Final War, but being pushed out of view in the meanwhile once the day breaks.
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Despite how cool it looks, nothing about Carrot's new form has demonstrated anything "new" so far. Just more speed and electro.
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Truly, if Carrot wants to fulfill Pedro's wish of supporting a new dawn, she must eventually step away from the gleaming sunlight that is the Straw Hat crew. Sun and moon cannot overlap aside from the occasional eclipse. Not unlike the few future team-ups she will have with the Straw Hats in Wano Country and the Final War, but being pushed out of view in the meanwhile once the day breaks.
Thank you for helping me realize that quite the opposite is true. Pedro would approve of a glorious unification of sun and moon. That IS the new dawn.
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Despite how cool it looks, nothing about Carrot's new form has demonstrated anything "new" so far. Just more speed and electro.
More speed. More electro. More power. And apparently the ability to either fly/glide or use a form of geppo. That's a pretty good start for something that was just introduced.
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More speed. More electro. More power. And apparently the ability to either fly/glide or use a form of geppo. That's a pretty good start for something that was just introduced.
Didn't she do something similar against Zoro? So far it seems to just enhance everything which is just what most power ups in battle shounen do. I wouldn't call it a good start, it's pretty basic.
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I'm still holding out for the kunoichi or geishaā¦..anybody else??
Hereās how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what heās doing. Luffy replies āThinkinā bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!ā and then chucks it off the ship
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I'm still holding out for the kunoichi or geishaā¦..anybody else??
Last time we held out for something like that we were given Raizouā¦
Year of Sanji, let's go!
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Last time we held out for something like that we were given Raizouā¦
NOOOOOOOOā¦.. I can still dream...damn it..:blink:
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And Raizou is God.
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I must be strange, I'm still pretty ice cold when it comes to Raizouā¦
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I can see that, but I like that with the fanbase many thought we be getting a cool badass ninja like Kakashi or a naruto refrence.
Instead like with the rest of the Wano people we got more of a traditional inspired/old time Ninja.
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I can see that, but I like that with the fanbase many thought we be getting a cool badass ninja like Kakashi or a naruto refrence.
Instead like with the rest of the Wano people we got more of a traditional inspired/old time Ninja.
This. I'm quite excited to see.
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More speed. More electro. More power. And apparently the ability to either fly/glide or use a form of geppo. That's a pretty good start for something that was just introduced.
Her speed isn't that fast if even Chopper can see her.
More electro isā¦just more electricity.
More power? We don't know yet. She hasn't shown a noticeable power feat in the chapter.
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We can sorta already see it imo.
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I like Kinemon's and Kanjuuros design, but Raizou is just wellā¦doesn't suit well with me yet. Will over time though.
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Her speed isn't that fast if even Chopper can see her.
More electro isā¦just more electricity.
More power? We don't know yet. She hasn't shown a noticeable power feat in the chapter.
And we already knew she could maneuver herself in mid-air when she clashed with Zoro.Lol, I think it's okay to acknowledge that Carrot's pretty fast right now. I mean, using your logic, Sanji's speed feat from two chapters ago isn't that big of a deal because Pudding saw it. As for saying we "already knew" about her mid-air maneuvering abilities, uh, we sure as hell didn't know this form would improve it to the point where she's able to essentially glide across the ocean.
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I like Kinemon's and Kanjuuros design, but Raizou is just wellā¦doesn't suit well with me yet. Will over time though.
Thats fine, i was more going on the lines/tangent about how so far stuff from Wano seems inspired by the more traditional Japanese art and such.
Which I find cool because out side I think Isobe you don't see it too often in manga now days.
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As of right now, I feel doubtful that anyone from Wano is joining. Kinemon was introduced to us almost 6 years ago and he's done almost nothing outside of the Wano-related storylines. He disappeared for most of Dressrosa and Zou. I would think that if Oda planned on adding any of the Wano people he would have made more room for them in the story and maybe tagged along in this arc. Kind of like how Carrot had no real reason to come along to WCI but instead we get this story with Pedro and Carrot that exists separately from the Minks general story.
If you remember back in Zou arc, none of the Minks (besides Pekoms) were originally going to travel with the Strawhats. Instead Pedro volunteered and of course Oda furthered developed on his and Carrot's stories.
Of course maybe Oda is holding off? Maybe Kinemon, Kanjuro, Raizo, Momo, or someone new from Wano joins? only time will tellā¦
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Also it seems like Jinbe and Carrot are complimentary characters
Jinbe is a former Captain of the Sun Pirates
Carrot has her Moon Lion formJinbe is specialized in underwater combat
Carrot appears to be competent in aerial combatJinbe is helmsman, down below, focusing on the currents
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I'm still holding out for the kunoichi or geishaā¦..anybody else??
Do you even know what a Geisha is?
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Do you even know what a Geisha is?
Tradional hostess that are professional in certain entertainment fields like dancing and poetry. I know they're likened to prostitutes. I just want to see the dancing partā¦..:ninja:
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Raizou is funny af. But some of us had our hopes pinned on a sexy femme fatale type ninja. Instead we gotā¦ T.T
Year of Sanji, let's go!
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Raizou is funny af. But some of us had our hopes pinned on a sexy femme fatale type ninja. Instead we gotā¦ T.T
There always Wano.
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Of course maybe Oda is holding off? Maybe Kinemon, Kanjuro, Raizo, Momo, or someone new from Wano joins? only time will tellā¦
I had always assumed that it'd be someone new, as far as speculation goes. Never bought into either Kinemon or Momo.
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Despite how cool it looks, nothing about Carrot's new form has demonstrated anything "new" so far. Just more speed and electro.
well she can "fly" or at least air hop much more than when he attacked zoro
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Do you even know what a Geisha is?
"Dont worry it doesnt violate oda's no romance rules if it's meaningless sexā¦"
Yeah Im just hyped to see a wano person that looks more like a regular person lol
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
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"Dont worry it doesnt violate oda's no romance rules if it's meaningless sexā¦"
Yeah Im just hyped to see a wano person that looks more like a regular person lol
Tradional hostess that are professional in certain entertainment fields like dancing and poetry. I know they're likened to prostitutes. I just want to see the dancing partā¦..:ninja:
I just think that Brook and Franky already fills the Entertainment quota in the crew.
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Luffy was not there to see it at all; since he would be like "oh cool", etc., which would have given bonus points to Carrot's case.
To be fair, Luffy has missed just about every cool thing Jinbe has done. Taking the Marine battleship in Impel Down, 1HKO on Moriah, sending Wadatsumi in the air, sailing in Perospero's Green Room. The only thing he was present for was when the whale sharks were called.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. There won't be any "new" characters joining after Wano. The SHs have already made it to the new world and gotten 2 of the 4 road poneglyphs (it'll be 3 by the end of Wano). A new character joining after all of those accomplishments would seriously detract from their overall place in the crew.
On the other hand, having a mink (Carrot) join who will have been there when they acquired three road poneglyphs and faced two emperors would make them fit in way easier. It would also make more sense to have the minks represented on the future pirate king's crew given the minks current connection to Roger and Wano/poneglyphs, not to mention the relationship between the minks and the SH crew. Plus, Oda said there will be new SHs and that they would join successively (with Jinbei being a lock). It just makes sense that Carrot would have the highest chances we've seen in a long time. Edit: I forgot the whole role thing, but she's obviously done the lookout/scout thing enough to have that role as well.
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To be fair, Luffy has missed just about every cool thing Jinbe has done. Taking the Marine battleship in Impel Down, sending Wadatsumi in the air, sailing in Perospero's Green Room. The only thing he was present for was when the whale sharks were called.
He saw the cool bits in the war with Moriah, but he saw the coolest/awesomest bit of Jimbei and it was all for him:
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Still the best ;-;That and I'm sure RomanceDawn could get in here or this.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. There won't be any "new" characters joining after Wano. The SHs have already made it to the new world and gotten 2 of the 4 road poneglyphs (it'll be 3 by the end of Wano). A new character joining after all of those accomplishments would seriously detract from their overall place in the crew.
Doesn't that just mean the eleventh Straw Hat can join on the island with the fourth Road Poneglyph? I agree that it's lackluster for the final crewmate to join THAT late in the series. But Brook joined the arc right before the Straw Hats got separated for two years.Plus, Oda said there will be new SHs and that they would join successively (with Jinbei being a lock).
He was likely talking about the Grand Fleet joining in Dressrosa and maybe Jinbe. He also referred to the Merry as a Straw Hat when he hyped up a Straw Hat dying before Water 7 started at a convention.
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To be fair, Luffy has missed just about every cool thing Jinbe has done. Taking the Marine battleship in Impel Down, sending Wadatsumi in the air, sailing in Perospero's Green Room. The only thing he was present for was when the whale sharks were called.
And just the small little detail, where he declares to an emperor that there is nothing to fear from her because he is going to follow Luffy from now on.
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