Conceivably. Togashi did accept the storyboard. I got that he was alright with it, it's not like it filled in any unnecessary blanks that would ruin the character.
In fact, it made him want to explore a part of Hisoka that the one shot left open himself. So it's pretty close to canon, but also doesn't matter if it ain't!
Hiatus x Hiatus III: Goodnight, Sweet Princes
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Canon or not it felt like a real Hisoka history, bravo. And on about Moritonio's failed atempt on the Hunter exam, Hisoka is around 28 on the 287th exam, if in the spin-off he is about 14 Moritonio could have taken part on the 267th and beein humiliated by Ging. At least, i think that was the intention…
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After reading that "origin" chapter I think that Hisoka will get into offensive next week and fight might end with him sealing Chrollos head with his Bungee Gum suffocating him.
So Hisokas dying move would be sealing up with his Nen Chrollos face or Chrollo himself and we would get to see why it was mentioned once again that Nen gets stronger after users death.
This or "Hisoka-san" incomming.
Also I think that on last page we see Hisoka actually getting covered by big part with puppets that were not bombs, just those that were told to "Break Hisoka", bombers were only some of them so with Hisoka getting covered with normal puppets and defending himself with Nen he has very high chance of getting out of last panel explosion with his 2 limbs that he kept till now being intact.
With Feitan keeping his trup card move till very end of his fight with Chimera Ant, Netero pulling out his strongest moves after loosing an arm and leg I think we can be certain that Hisoka will use his strongest next chapter. Something that will make us think he had chance against Netero and would have a chance against adult Gon.
I imagine Hisoka dying after he lands fatal blow/ seals Chrollos face with his Rubber - with this kind of face
http://imgur.com/gallery/kXla5
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I don't consider Hisoka to be an expendable character considering how much time has been invested on him. This match seems more about moving on from the Gen'ei Ryodan and onto something bigger (oncoming arc), while also upgrading or revealing Hisokas true potential as an ongoing enemy to Gon.
While it is possible for Hisoka to lose this fight, it doesn't achieve or set anything up (as we have seen with previous characters like Netero). Though I wouldn't be surprised to see this all being part of a bigger ploy to generate money, or manipulate someone higher up. Why else do this in an arena when they could have both fought elsewhere.
Kind of reminds me of the auction.
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So glad this got translated pretty quickly. I hope Togashi does accept this as Hisoka backstory. It also made me wonder what his mother was doing before if he learned card stuff from her lol. And why he was all beat up when he was found. But it's a nice story either way….Casual murders aside.
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It looks like the severed head on Hisoka's hand last chapter exploded because the body it belongs to exploded. Meaning that Sun and Moon turns the whole body into a bomb. I always assumed that only the signs are the bomb. Oh well, the amount of aura Kuroro can muster must be unbelievable to produce ~100 human bodies, turn them into bombs, and control them.
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The origin chapter was okay but didn't really explain anything about Hisoka's character or have any real point outside man Hisoka sure was talented! Also the twist on who the killer was wasn't exactly shocking, could it be the one other named character that wasn't in the same room as him? Also the culprit's character 180 just felt cheap and silly to me. It was harmless I guess, it had some good ideas but didn't really go anywhere with them.
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Ishida Sui outtogashiing togashi himself with those drawings, lol. I know it isnt supposed to be something official but rather a joke right?
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From the interview it seems like its just fanfiction(with really good panelling) from Ishida Sui, he seems to have done it without any input and probably even without Togashi's knowledge. It'll be interesting if Togashi actually goes through with implementing it, but otherwise I'll treat it as non-canon.
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I don't think Hisoka or anyone that isn't Gon, Killua, Leorio, Kurapika or Gyro needs a story anyway.
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Thanks a lot sandman!
This pretty much confirms what I thought: Hisoka has a last ability that he can use in exchange for his life.
Sounds epic.
I am asking seriously as I might have missed something - where was it hinted at Hisoka having last ability that he can use in exchange for his life ?
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Ishida Sui outtogashiing togashi himself with those drawings, lol. I know it isnt supposed to be something official but rather a joke right?
No that's just how storyboards look like. Bakuman explains some of these things
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I am asking seriously as I might have missed something - where was it hinted at Hisoka having last ability that he can use in exchange for his life ?
This has never been hinted. Hisoka's fans are just mad that their favourite character might die at the next chapter.
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I am asking seriously as I might have missed something - where was it hinted at Hisoka having last ability that he can use in exchange for his life ?
Probably the last panel with Hisoka "Since I'm gonna die anyway, …"
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This has never been hinted. Hisoka's fans are just mad that their favourite character might die at the next chapter.
I doubt I saw anger from those that theorize he had something left.
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It certainly would be funny if next chapter just opens with hisoka being dead and the story quickly moves on without much fanfare. xD
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I am asking seriously as I might have missed something - where was it hinted at Hisoka having last ability that he can use in exchange for his life ?
'Just guessing.
This has never been hinted. Hisoka's fans are just mad that their favourite character might die at the next chapter.
- I am not a Hisoka fan.
- If he uses an ability in exchange of his life, news flash, he should die.
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It certainly would be funny if next chapter just opens with hisoka being dead and the story quickly moves on without much fanfare. xD
That would, indeed, be a good move.
Man I want to see Kurapika so bad.
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I am asking seriously as I might have missed something - where was it hinted at Hisoka having last ability that he can use in exchange for his life ?
sandman's post in this thread. Previous page or one before that. Never a bad idea to check the earlier parts of discussion.
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I doubt I saw anger from those that theorize he had something left.
I mean, I agree that he has something up his sleeve but "hey no, this isnt Hisoka, it's just a clone" wtf. Or "nah, Hisoka is gonna turn into adult-Gon and kick Kuroro's ass" wtf again.
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sandman's post in this thread. Previous page or one before that. Never a bad idea to check the earlier parts of discussion.
I quoted his post that you mention, you.. akhem.
Its not a bad idea to check the earlier parts of discussion you say ?
Maybe I was not clear - I asked a question because I did not seen in "origin" or interview anything that would make it "confirmed" about Hisoka having technique that costs him life. Kaptyan post made it sound like its confirmed in one of two.
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That would, indeed, be a good move.
Man I want to see Kurapika so bad.
Oh man, we have some really different tastes lol
Kurapika is a bit too serious business all the time for me to find him entertaining tbh.
Like, his mortal enemies in the Troupe who are known for just being stone cold killers are actually way more fun than him.
I'll also never tire of Hisoka's sexually fueled violence and general shenanigans
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You do not turn into adult-Gon just because you want to. This isn't how it works. ( actually, we have no idea how it works )
Didn't he basically just make a Nen contract that traded him ever using nen again for unfathomable power for that one fight?
I thought it was kinda straight forward?
Dunno if I'm oversimplifying it.
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I quoted his post that you mention, you.. akhem.
Its not a bad idea to check the earlier parts of discussion you say ?
Maybe I was not clear - I asked a question because I did not seen in "origin" or interview anything that would make it "confirmed" about Hisoka having technique that costs him life. Kaptyan post made it sound like its confirmed in one of two.
I'm sorry, it looked like you asked where it was hinted that he had. Oh wait…
Can't really know if you've seen sandman's post or not. Just trying to help.
Btw, I don't think Hisoka is going to die, especially not by blowing up fodder as his last move.
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It's extremely obvious Hisoka has something up his sleeve, He's been a main cog since the beginning, and has clearly been one of the strongest characters.
Why would he die without:
1. Using abilities we already know he has
2. Landing any kind of damage
3. Using any new techniques (It's obvious he has more than bungee gum and texture surprise)Maybe I'm looking at things too black and white and Hisoka will go out without any revelation, who knows. He doesn't seem like a character that would be killed after spending the whole series helping/wanting Gon/Killua mature.
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Didn't he basically just make a Nen contract that traded him ever using nen again for unfathomable power for that one fight?
I thought it was kinda straight forward?
Dunno if I'm oversimplifying it.
No, you're right, man. It's pretty simple, just takes a lot of resolve. And it's not like Gon actually gave up his own life to do what he did. He didn't die.
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Even if characters don't have a regular super move they can spam, the nature of nen contracts means that pretty much everyone that gets into any sort of regular combat is going to have some sort of high cost desperation ability they can summon. Or that they can even make a personal contract with themselves on the spot if they believe it strongly enough. Cheetah guys… whatever he was going to do as long as he was never caught was probably really strong.
"If I ever lose all four of my limbs, I will gain the ability to turn my penis into a laser canon with an incredibly strong death beam" may be insane, but its not out of the question. More reasonably, "If I am about to fi I choose t have an explosion" or "I can blend into the floor and leave a fake once, but then I can never fight that opponent again"... or as in Gon's case " sacrifice all my future potential to have the power to destroy this guy for the next five minutes".
Honestly, Kurapika's "I have an indestructible chain that no SPider can break from, and it costs my life if I use it on anyway else" is a fairly weak strength/condition thing given what people can get into in the big leagues.
We don't need to know specifically that Hisoka has a hidden move to fairly speculate that, being near death, especially with a line like "If I'm going to die anyway..." that he's got something big.
Also this is a shonen manga.
Hell, Hisoka making a vow similar to Gon's of "great power for this fight, then I will never fight again" could be a thing he does. Especially knowing the trick Gon pulled. Really that should be an agreement most users make with themselves ahead of time... though of course having the determination and willingness to give up potential forever is hard... if its life or death its not unreasonable.
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Hisoka lives to fight, so I would assume that any contract that devoids him of ability would not be something he would do. Imo, Hisoka would rather die then give up his power.
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Didn't he basically just make a Nen contract that traded him ever using nen again for unfathomable power for that one fight?
I thought it was kinda straight forward?
Dunno if I'm oversimplifying it.
What Gon did wasn't intentional at all I think. There are things about nen we still don't know about. For instance, we learned in this fight that Kuroro could use one of Shalnark's technique because he considers every human being as nothing more than a puppet ( i don't recall which technique it is ).
What I mean is that. If every strong nen users could make such Nen contract, Kuroro probably knows about it too. If Hisoka has something up his sleeve, be sure that Kuroro has at least one too.
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And it's not like Gon actually gave up his own life to do what he did. He didn't die.
Although it did fuck him up pretty badly.
Although with Nen being closely linked to the health/lifeforce of the user, I suppose that's to be expected.
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What Gon did wasn't intentional at all I think.
He does say at the time though that he "didn't care if it was the end" and that he was going to "use it all".
Considering he knew about the immense power that could be gained from a contract/limitation from Kurapika, I think it was pretty clearly intentional.
There are things about nen we still don't know about.
True, but in this case it seems pretty cut and dried.
Especially with Pitou and Killua weighing in on what Gon did.
What I mean is that. If every strong nen users could make such Nen contract, Kuroro probably knows about it too.
Well, yeah, Chrollo already seems to use a form of contract with himself in order to steal people's abilities after all.
Really the only thing can limit a nen users power once they know about contracts/limitations is a lack of imagination.
If Hisoka has something up his sleeve, be sure that Kuroro has at least one too.
I dunno if it could be considered as keeping a technique up his sleeve when he literally has a book full of hidden techniques.
Didn't he say at the beginning of the fight he gathered enough techniques to beat him ? And how many have we seen ? Sun and Moon and Convert Hands were unknown before this fight, the others are stolen from Shalnark or Kortopi.
Chrollo seems to have devised the perfect game plan to negate Hisoka's incredible physical abilities and versatile hatsu, yeah.
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We don't need to know specifically that Hisoka has a hidden move to fairly speculate that, being near death, especially with a line like "If I'm going to die anyway…" that he's got something big.
Also this is a shonen manga.
Hell, Hisoka making a vow similar to Gon's of "great power for this fight, then I will never fight again" could be a thing he does. Especially knowing the trick Gon pulled. Really that should be an agreement most users make with themselves ahead of time... though of course having the determination and willingness to give up potential forever is hard... if its life or death its not unreasonable.
Quoted just part to be more clear with my reply.
It sounds VERY likely that Hisoka will restrict himself with a rule that will make his nen stronger. I also thought that he might not care about his body if he is about to die in a bit different way - maybe with his nen he can affect his body properties, not only power. Like his nen changing his body so it has properties of rubber itself
But on other hand as Sandman wrote before title of this chapter is the same as title of chapter where Gon transformed into Gon-san.
If we will get to see Hisoka-san mode then I imagine that fight will be just like - One Piece spoiler - Luffy vs! Doflamingo and next HxH chapter would be point where Luffy activated Gear Fourth but with Hisoka dying instead of loosing nen for 10 minutes
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And it's not like Gon actually gave up his own life to do what he did. He didn't die.
He was going to die if it wasn't for
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What does body transformation falls in the nen system? Things like bisket's loli form. Its a rare skill I guess as only herself and hair column gon have done it.
Enhancement includes body control on cellular level?
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What does body transformation falls in the nen system? Things like bisket's loli form. Its a rare skill I guess as only herself and hair column gon have done it.
Enhancement includes body control on cellular level?
Transmuter perhaps?
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He was going to die if it wasn't for
plot armorNanika, wasn't he?I honestly don't recall if that's what the doctors were saying, though it was pretty clear that the outlook was quite grim. I'm just saying that he didn't immediately die when he chose to sacrifice all his future potential. It was a dire sacrifice, but it surely didn't (immediately) cost him his life.
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Transmuter perhaps?
Not likely. The body didn't change into a different substance, just matured. It's probably an extreme enhancement. Gon is an enhancement type to begin with, with little experience in other types, so it would make sense that he achieved his form through his own specialty.
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Not likely. The body didn't change into a different substance, just matured. It's probably an extreme enhancement. Gon is an enhancement type to begin with, with little experience in other types, so it would make sense that he achieved his form through his own specialty.
Biscuit transformation is the opposite though? Her normal body is the body builder form, not the loli one.
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I'm sorry, it looked like you asked where it was hinted that he had. Oh wait…
Can't really know if you've seen sandman's post or not. Just trying to help.
Btw, I don't think Hisoka is going to die, especially not by blowing up fodder as his last move.
I know you wanted to push me towards answer to my question, thats why I holded back and stopped myself from calling you "dingus"
Seriously though I thought today about way Togashi is having with this fight and only thing that I am afraid of would be if Hisoka really dies next chapter without getting to actually fight a bit more.At one hand Chrollo words about styling his opponent being crucial and important came true on other hand it feels like "How can this be?!" being said when Hisoka is crusing somebodys knee might also true next chapter.
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Transmuter perhaps?
Not likely, because the transmuter specifically is shaping and giving properties to the aura, not the body.
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Hell, Hisoka making a vow similar to Gon's of "great power for this fight, then I will never fight again" could be a thing he does. Especially knowing the trick Gon pulled. Really that should be an agreement most users make with themselves ahead of time… though of course having the determination and willingness to give up potential forever is hard... if its life or death its not unreasonable.
For me the reason Gon's pledge worked so well was because it was pure resolve. He was not in an impossible situation and still decided to take on that crazy pledge for 1 last battle when he could continue to live his life normally. If Hisoka takes it when he is already cornered, the pledge wouldn't bring out so much since he is not sacrificing as much.
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Not likely, because the transmuter specifically is shaping and giving properties to the aura, not the body.
Welp, I can't really think any other nen category that fits better. Besides, do we know for sure she really changes her body? Maybe it could be some sort of illusion, since it's just to keep up the appearance anyway. And it's easier to relate illusions with transmuter.
EDIT: Wikia also says she's a transmuter, so that fits nicely.
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What does body transformation falls in the nen system? Things like bisket's loli form. Its a rare skill I guess as only herself and hair column gon have done it.
Enhancement includes body control on cellular level?
Manipulation comes to mind,if nothing really fits you could say it's specialization.Also,keep in mind that you can achieve the same thing with different nen types depending on how you do it.
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Specialization is nothing but a person that has the ability to grasp all other 5 categories just as well as a person who's inclined to a specific one.
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Specialization is nothing but a person that has the ability to grasp all other 5 categories just as well as a person who's inclined to a specific one.
No, that's Kurapika's hatsu, Specialization is someone outside of the 5 categories.
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No, that's Kurapika's hatsu, Specialization is someone outside of the 5 categories.
Huh… Always had it wrong then. For some reason I thought Wing said something of the sort when he talked about the specialist nen.
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Here's the nen explanation: http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Hunter-x-Hunter/60?id=17114
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After reading Viz's scans, the thing I'm most impressed with is the fortitude of those spectators who decided to stick around for this match… Both Chrollo and Hisoka at this point really deserve to die. I'm excited to see what "ZANNEN" refers to.
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No, that's Kurapika's hatsu, Specialization is someone outside of the 5 categories.
Kurapika´s Hatsu is in the Specialization category. At least the Emperor´s time version.
But yes, Specialization isn´t 100% of all categories. I think it depends on the person using it.
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@Mr.:
After reading Viz's scans, the thing I'm most impressed with is the fortitude of those spectators who decided to stick around for this match… Both Chrollo and Hisoka at this point really deserve to die. I'm excited to see what "ZANNEN" refers to.
NOW they deserve to die? Not before but now? They are both unrepentant monsters from the moment we meet them.
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NOW they deserve to die? Not before but now? They are both unrepentant monsters from the moment we meet them.
Prior to this battle, it was questionable as to whether or not Chrollo and the Troupe had a code against murdering innocents (off the top of my head, Feitan's remark about regretting torturing an innocent auctioneer is an example of said potential code). It's great how Togashi left this ambiguous, even going as far as to have Chrollo use clones instead of controlling actual bodies with a stolen ability. We were also largely uncertain as to the collateral damage Hisoka was leaving in his wake because of the absence of blood. Now we have Chrollo crafting suicide bomber puppets that result in the sacrifice of the lives of potentially hundreds of innocent people. They're not in the game. A truly villainous act.
Chrollo is unrepentant and unlikely to do so. When Kurapika comes face to face with him again, it's just going to be another solid deathmatch with the complete omission of feelings.
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Something I didn't understand. Folks here say this chapther has the same name as the chapter in which Gon goes ballistic.
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Something I didn't understand. Folks here say this chapther has the same name as the chapter in which Gon goes ballistic.
But, do you mean the name in japanese or english ? Because is english, it's not.I think the Japanese is the same but can be read in two different ways or something along those lines?
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305. "Unfortunate" (残念 Zannen?)
356. "" (残念① Zannen (Ichi)
That was on Wikipedia.