Like the fact that their dad is with Big Mum. So the clock beard guy being is father theory becomes valid again
Reiju says Sanji may be with their father on page 18 of MS, so unless Sanji went to the reverie, the clock guy probably isn't their father.
Also, am i the only one getting a superhero/villian force vibe from the Vinsmokes? I mean those outfits, the gadgets and their nicknames including different colors (like a Power Ranger Force)?
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I'm still hoping she is. I mean, it's not like there was any cute guy aboard to put her to proof (sorry Luffy)
To further the Sanji torture, she'll have a crush on Zoro :)
I'm somewhat relieved Oda didn't extend the "drools over women" idea to Sanji's sister.
She does it to men instead she only used the saving luffy from poison as a excuse to kiss him lol.
So what do you guys think of Sanji's sibling character design?
The female sibling ssignature swirl helps differentiate from most of Oda's same face female designs.
The male sibling looks okaish so far.
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I'm still hoping she is. I mean, it's not like there was any cute guy aboard to put her to proof (sorry Luffy)… damn, we are finally getting a break from Zoro and Law and now I am wishing they were there.
But Zoro and Law doesn't really unleash the inner pervert in me :ninja:
Mmm, I can already taste Sanji's tears as Reiji nosebleeds over Zoro.
YES! JIMBEI! 16 chars of the happys!
Ichiji might have strawberry blonde hair :ninja:
Also, since no one else is commenting on it, Carrots antics with the crew seem so natural like she's always been there. Jinbei and her should become permanent additions after this arc.
Year of Sanji, let's go!
Good chapter! So the Vinsmoke wasn't friendly or aggressive, and what's the deal with Reiji ability? DF? Jimbei is in the house, will officially join the crew or warn about BM?
Last but not least: STRAWHAT MIHAWK
Super exciting stuff! Really nice to see Sanji's family, and yes, seems like the fact that they're noble is still correct, so they're a noble assassin family and then there's the Jinbe cliffhanger to top it all off.
That's nothing. Some of the other amazons held his mushroom.
More than just that they tried to pull it off so that it got longer lol.
I didn't want to think it because I found it stupid, but it seems like the Vinsmokes might be the kings of Flevance.
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That cover page is adorable, and probably Mihawks most human moment to date. Along with the pimpin' Weatharia wizards, proving this cover story worthwhile.
The whole Poison situation fell rather flat for me.
Luffy being super-poisoned out of the blue is rather convenient considering his high tolerance, but I can deal with it.
Everyone stopping everything for the sake of Character Introduction is par for the course, and using the aforementioned poison scenario to facilitate such an introduction is fair enough.
But everyone stopping everything to gawk at Super Smexy Sanji Sister conveniently frenching the convenient poison out of Luffy, and Chopper screaming about his ineffectiveness as a doctor? Yeeeeeeeaaah not a fan. Considering all else she does is spout exposition and be Calm Intelligent Woman to compliment Hotblooded Thuggish Man, I'm not really won over to Reiju as a character. Yonji seems alright, but I wish the pervyness wasn't hereditary. Theres gonna be soooooooooooo many heart eyes this arc isn't there.
Considering most of the chapter is the poison situation and exposition, I didn't care particularly for it. I'm glad we're getting around to re-introducing Jinbei though; Sanji seems to have claimed the position of emotional center of the arc for now, but Jinbe deserves that distinction too. He's going to be a crewmember after all.
So what do you guys think of Sanji's sibling character design?
The female sibling ssignature swirl helps differentiate from most of Oda's same face female designs.
The male sibling looks okaish so far.
I'd be able to quickly pick out her face if it was in one of those nameless face pictures that have floated around here before, even without the eyebrow. So the design is a success to me. I'm more partial to her design though yeah.
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Yonji appeared just in time for the tournament, I say. Glad that Oda didn't went down the cool stoic badass route.
A little disappointed that Reiji isn't a pervert…:ninja: but oh well. Best current female character introduced. When can we get a female pervert?Most importantly, JINBEI!!! (and Aladdin)
She could be one just used saving luffy as a excuse for kissing him lol.
I think it would've been funny and unique if Reiji would've been somewhat of a pervert too, but can't have that I guess (or maybe she will turn out to be one).
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I'm still hoping she is. I mean, it's not like there was any cute guy aboard to put her to proof (sorry Luffy)… damn, we are finally getting a break from Zoro and Law and now I am wishing they were there.
I thought in the OP world Luffy was decent looking at least haha didn't Shakky say he was handsome at least ?
I didn't want to think it because I found it stupid, but it seems like the Vinsmokes might be the kings of Flevance.
from what brook said,it seems they were royalties way before law was even born
also,their dominion seems to have covered a big part of north blue,more than just a single small country
So what do you guys think of Sanji's sibling character design?
The female sibling ssignature swirl helps differentiate from most of Oda's same face female designs.
The male sibling looks okaish so far.
His younger brother looked a bit meh to me a bit expected, but his sister looks awesome really different I also like that Oda didn't make her Boobs over the top like alot of female characters lately.
Great chapter, looking forward to the next one!
My mind is blow… But I will try to ask some, impressions, questions and make a theory.
1. Why Vinsmoke stopped ruling North Blue?
I think they got kicked out of North Blue being to cruel/evil
Did they say that because of Dressrosa or because of fake spoilers? I don't like Dressrosa, but I wouldn't say it fits the phrase "jumping the shark".
Most people jumped on that hate train somewhere around the middle of Dressrosa.
I didn't want to think it because I found it stupid, but it seems like the Vinsmokes might be the kings of Flevance.
Why would that be stupid?
Seems like a good theory to me.
Would certainly explain the Vinsmokes no longer having land to rule over but still being considered Nobles.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
So the Vinsmokes are technically royalty after all, now that's intriguing.
But fucking Jimbei! Let's go!
lol Now I'm imagining a whole room of Vinsmoke men going crazy while Sanji and Pudding are at the altar.
I guess you just found out how Sanji will be able to escape the marriage without the SH suffering any retaliation.
Interesting to see the Vin Smokes seem to have an assassins-as-power-rangers theme. Poison Pink is obvious, Winch Green… nooses & strangling cords? I wonder what place was expected for Sanji. Wondering if they were the missing Mr. 6 and Ms. Mothersday from Baroque Works.
The tech boots are interesting. Rediscovering the lost knowledge of dials?
Glad we have confirmed that Sanji is royalty so Mr. Prince is real!
Luffy has been poisoned so many times now I'm wondering if Oda is building it up to be an important plot point later on. Meanwhile I look forward to the shipping of Reiju and Magellan.
The best part of the story is, of course, JINBEI'S BACK! If he's also getting a flashback story leading up to his joining this arc's going to be a bit longer than I thought. I was looking at it as a smaller arc leading up to the crew rejoining for Wano/ Kaido, but if the Reverie is going to link into it then a lot longer and with new characters being thrown at us by the dozen!
Hurry up and join Jinbei, they need you!
Super exciting stuff! Really nice to see Sanji's family, and yes, seems like the fact that they're noble is still correct, so they're a noble assassin family and then there's the Jinbe cliffhanger to top it all off.
not really a cliff hanger since jinbe wants to leave the big mom pirates anyways he could not really do that at fishman island since the fishman pirates were near her main island.
the fishman pirates are going to escort them to the wedding it would be smart if they did that as fake prisoners to avoid fighting any big pirates or allies
So it seems like the Vinsmokes name their daughters -ju and sons -ji while counting up from zero. Wonder what the other two are called. Taji and Niju? Ichiju and Niji? Will we see any other siblings? Good stuff, either way…
I'm on board for Ichiji/Ichju having strawberry blonde hair.
I can easily see Jinbei's "But i must for honorz!" side coming out here.
I expect a little rumble betwenn the fishies and strawies
So it seems like the Vinsmokes name their daughters -ju and sons -ji while counting up from zero. Wonder what the other two are called. Taji and Niju? Ichiju and Niji? Will we see any other siblings? Good stuff, either way…
i think that reiji became reiju only because reiji is an real male name
So, Sanji's father raised his bounty and they're not World Nobles making them Celestial Dragons so his father is basically the Blonde Elder Star at this point?
Wait, why would Jinbe fight the straw hats? He went to Big Mom to sever ties. I guess she could strongarm him into continued servitude somehow ( I don't want to fight you Luffy-kun! But if I don't, X/Y/Z will be killed!), but I can't see any other reason there'd be a confrontation. If thats the case, I hope its resolved rather quickly.
I didn't want to think it because I found it stupid, but it seems like the Vinsmokes might be the kings of Flevance.
I got the impression they lost their land long ago. If Brook says it was long ago, then it's been a while. A lot longer than 16 years ago.
Why would that be stupid?
Seems like a good theory to me.
Would certainly explain the Vinsmokes no longer having land to rule over but still being considered Nobles.
Don't remember why I don't like it.
I think that it was when I was discussing with the guy who saw lead poisoned people, poisoned with lead, and tought radioactive material.
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@Daz:
That cover page is adorable, and probably Mihawks most human moment to date. Along with the pimpin' Weatharia wizards, proving this cover story worthwhile.
The whole Poison situation fell rather flat for me.
Luffy being super-poisoned out of the blue is rather convenient considering his high tolerance, but I can deal with it.
Everyone stopping everything for the sake of Character Introduction is par for the course, and using the aforementioned poison scenario to facilitate such an introduction is fair enough.
But everyone stopping everything to gawk at Super Smexy Sanji Sister conveniently frenching the convenient poison out of Luffy, and Chopper screaming about his ineffectiveness as a doctor? Yeeeeeeeaaah not a fan. Considering all else she does is spout exposition and be Calm Intelligent Woman to compliment Hotblooded Thuggish Man, I'm not really won over to Reiju as a character. Yonji seems alright, but I wish the pervyness wasn't hereditary. Theres gonna be soooooooooooo many heart eyes this arc isn't there.Considering most of the chapter is the poison situation and exposition, I didn't care particularly for it. I'm glad we're getting around to re-introducing Jinbei though; Sanji seems to have claimed the position of emotional center of the arc for now, but Jinbe deserves that distinction too. He's going to be a crewmember after all.
Do you ever get tired of being too "smart" for this series/Oda? Sometimes you just gotta let it be and have fun. My god not every tiny little thing a writer writes has to be scrutinized, and your personal issues with it don't make Oda a bad writer (not that you necessarily said/think that). Obviously you do like the series right? And it's okay to dislike things about it. It's okay to discuss and analyse. But the poison situation fell flat? Who cares….
I can easily see Jinbei's "But i must for honorz!" side coming out here.
I expect a little rumble betwenn the fishies and strawies
I don't expect anything more than some mock fighting, to maybe fool BM that Jinbe is still on her side. Or to create cringy suspense for the readers.
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Do you ever get tired of being too "smart" for this series/Oda? Sometimes you just gotta let it be and have fun. My god not every tiny little thing a writer writes has to be scrutinized, and your personal issues with it don't make Oda a bad writer (not that you necessarily said/think that). Obviously you do like the series right? And it's okay to dislike things about it. It's okay to discuss and analyse. But the poison situation fell flat? Who cares….
It's like…. you do.
I got the impression they lost their land long ago. If Brook says it was long ago, then it's been a while. A lot longer than 16 years ago.
I won't base anything out of mangastream's translation. I'd wait until monday to get the gist of it.
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So, Sanji's father raised his bounty and they're not World Nobles making them Celestial Dragons so his father is basically the Blonde Elder Star at this point?
if the blonde elder star was related to sanji he would not be his father since he is around 800 years old with the other elder stars since former users of law''s op op fruit made it so they cannot die from aging.
he does not have the same eyes as sanji and his family members unless he married someone with those eyes.
@Daz:
Wait, why would Jinbe fight the straw hats? He went to Big Mom to sever ties. I guess she could strongarm him into continued servitude somehow ( I don't want to fight you Luffy-kun! But if I don't, X/Y/Z will be killed!), but I can't see any other reason there'd be a confrontation. If thats the case, I hope its resolved rather quickly.
Something like that. Some honor/responsibility spiel that we've come to expect from that tubby tuna.
I didn't want to think it because I found it stupid, but it seems like the Vinsmokes might be the kings of Flevance.
who needs a land to call your own when you have entire north blue under your control?
I won't base anything out of mangastream's translation. I'd wait until monday to get the gist of it.
Other than that, I don't see those badasses losing their country just like that, then being best pals with WG couple of years after.
Not to mention Law's "OMG, I know Vinsmokes, those dudes totally ruled my country" reaction was lacking.
Don't remember why I don't like it.
I think that it was when I was discussing with the guy who saw lead poisoned people, poisoned with lead, and tought radioactive material.
Fair enough.
Well, I think you're onto a winner anyway.
We have a kindgomless family of Nobles from North Blue and knowledge of a kingdom in North Blue that was abandoned by it's noble family in the not too distant past.
Seems to fit rather well.
I don't expect anything more than some mock fighting, to maybe fool BM that Jinbe is still on her side. Or to create cringy suspense for the readers.
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It's like.... you do.
I care about the effectiveness of the poison scene? No?
I care about the effectiveness of the poison scene? No?
He meant that you care about Daz caring about the poison scene.
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not really a cliff hanger since jinbe wants to leave the big mom pirates anyways he could not really do that at fishman island since the fishman pirates were near her main island.
the fishman pirates are going to escort them to the wedding it would be smart if they did that as fake prisoners to avoid fighting any big pirates or allies
It was an exciting twist at the end of the chapter. I knew Jinbe would return eventually, but I was surprised by it.
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if the blonde elder star was related to sanji he would not be his father since he is around 800 years old with the other elder stars since former users of law''s op op fruit made it so they cannot die from aging.
he does not have the same eyes as sanji and his family members unless he married someone with those eyes.
True, can royalty (who are Nobles by default) change the size of someone's bounty even if they aren't World Nobles? Cause then his father could be someone completely different.
He meant that you care about Daz caring about the poison scene.
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I know what he meant :)
