That happens in so many animes too. Lol.
"Here's my awesome yet terrible mind warping technique! You'll be reduced to just a meat bag!"
Alter ego steps in "DENIED!"
Seven Deadly Sins
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That is why I hate Genjutsus…
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Didn't like the chapter.
For starters the reason why Gowther of all people would need to kill doesn't make sense. He has proven time and time again that he doesn't need to kill to disable his opponents. He freaking does it with Hawk. But for some reason he is now into killing everyone when he knows the rules. Even messing Diane brain had a point(can love protect from his power) but suddenly Gowther wants to kill for shit and giggles.
Second the nightmare attack failing is simply annoying. I could understand with Fraudin who had 2 minds but somehow Gowther not only fail but power up Escanor. Gowther could easily rip his head off but somehow gave him strength?
Third, Escanor appearing is probably the most annoying thing. Now he doesn't need the literally sun but Merlin can do? Even if that worked to get him out of the illusion(because it's on his mind) he should turn back to his normal self once the illusion end. Even when she isn't literally here, Merlin manage to pull some convinient deus ex machina.
Man I didn't like this chapter.
On the other side, Escanor's origin seems quite interesting and Jericho was pleasant.
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… the reason why Gowther of all people would need to kill doesn't make sense.
Same feeling here. Gowther trying to kill his opponents doesn't make sense; because the rules of the tourney didn't requiere you to kill your rival to win. So, the only visible reason he could have to killing his rivals is only that he wants to experience some intense feelings: "I'll be able to feel remorse over your deaths", so that that could help him to awaken his new heart :wassat:. But that's rather a poor reason to kill and barely makes sense.
Second the nightmare attack failing is simply annoying. I could understand with Fraudin who had 2 minds but somehow Gowther not only fail but power up Escanor. Gowther could easily rip his head off but somehow gave him strength?
That didn't bother me. I saw it like Gowther's magic power of Goether is inferior to the magic power of that person who cursed Escanor: so that power reacted against Gowther attack by awakening the strong Escanor.
What if the magician who created Gowther is also the one who cursed Escanor?
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Same feeling here. Gowther trying to kill his opponents doesn't make sense; because the rules of the tourney didn't requiere you to kill your rival to win. So, the only visible reason he could have to killing his rivals is only that he wants to experience some intense feelings: "I'll be able to feel remorse over your deaths", so that that could help him to awaken his new heart :wassat:. But that's rather a poor reason to kill and barely makes sense.
Even that would be strange since he already know that he can't feel anything and only winning the wish can do so. He already done many things that could cause him remorse. It just seems like some weird plot device to bring Escanor back. No wonder the duo buff-Escanor/Merlin are my least preferred sins.
That didn't bother me. I saw it like Gowther's magic power of Goether is inferior to the magic power of that person who cursed Escanor: so that power reacted against Gowther attack by awakening the strong Escanor.
What if the magician who created Gowther is also the one who cursed Escanor?
But the magic didn't fail because of Escanor being to powerful. It just so happen that Gowther who has spent years with Escanor and playing with people's mind used the wrong ingredients. The chapter plays it as Escanor awakening thanks to his love for Merlin.
I doubt Escanor power protects him or else it would have save him from Gloxiana. Even the whole pushing the soul out of his body worked. And we know Gowther was used to shut him down multiple times. Considering he holds the power of the sun either he awaken his natural power, and he got that one do to his royal lineage(Hendrickson got decay because of his job) or the godness had a role in it.
Gowther on the other hand, I imagine him being given life by the demon king. We already saw a great of a magician he is since he bestowed an absolute commandment on 10 different persons.
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As much as I want Escanor to kick Gowther's ass, I think the heartless boy will win. Mostly because it makes sense story-wise, and it'd build up more conflict between him and the other sins.
I wonder how he is supposed to win. Escanor should be able to easily smash him in another mountain and now he's probably to buff for genjutsus to work.
With some lucjk the fight will last.
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Well Gowther didn’t kill anybody in the end. I think he was refering the fact that the loser seems to be killed by the commandments no matter how they are defeated
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Well Gowther didn’t kill anybody in the end. I think he was refering the fact that the loser seems to be killed by the commandments no matter how they are defeated
I considered the eventuallity that his intentions were misinterprated but he did seem to want to put Escanor in an eternal coma.
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Well I think you are right and was more nitpicking than anything else. Fundamentally I know I read a shonen. People use the word kill but in the end nobody really dies. Personnaly I was not really bothered by that part.
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Well I think you are right and was more nitpicking than anything else. Fundamentally I know I read a shonen. People use the word kill but in the end nobody really dies. Personnaly I was not really bothered by that part.
The thing is that Jericho and even Escanor himself get alarmed by Gowther's words. So if to talk about their deaths is not big deal, you expect the characters don't mind it that much. That's where the chapter lost me: it was a bit forced, given that to kill it's not a rule of the tourney.
Now, Nakaba could have wroten a chapter with out the ruckus Jericho did and go directly to Gowther vs Escanor. So, since he didn't do it that way, maybe the idea to have friends, argued by Jericho in the chapter, will be used by Nakaba in Gowther's probable redemption.
Anyway, looking forward to see Escanor vs Gowther
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But the magic didn't fail because of Escanor being to powerful. It just so happen that Gowther who has spent years with Escanor and playing with people's mind used the wrong ingredients.
But that's just a posibility. We also could think Gowhter never tried before to use nightmare against Escanor and only shut him down using a less damaging spell,which makes sense given that in the past that spell was part of teamwork and now it's a real attack agains an enemy. The difference in the spell could also create a difference in the result… As for the topic about Merin's role in Escanor's awakening, I just think we don't know the whole story and we'll have more revelations later.
Gowther on the other hand, I imagine him being given life by the demon king. We already saw a great of a magician he is since he bestowed an absolute commandment on 10 different persons.
Yes, I had thought about the demon king as the magician who created Gowther. Now the chapter adds the question about the source of the spell put on Escanor…
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You've gone and done it now Gowther!
Still, I have a feeling he will win this round regardless. But not before learning a lesson or two.
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Third, Escanor appearing is probably the most annoying thing. Now he doesn't need the literally sun but Merlin can do? Even if that worked to get him out of the illusion(because it's on his mind) he should turn back to his normal self once the illusion end. Even when she isn't literally here, Merlin manage to pull some convinient deus ex machina.
This.
People complaining about Diane's powerup with her golems which makes actual sense yet praising Escanor's super cliché transformation. "My love is my strength!" Please.
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Escanor sure feels like a monster, now that Gowther provoked him in the worst way.
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There's a good chance his transformation is powered not by the position of sun itself, but by psychological reasons. Like the sun itself just represents a positive state of mind and the body acts accordingly.
I can't be annoyed when I didn't even know how Escanor's power works to begin with.
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This.
People complaining about Diane's powerup with her golems which makes actual sense yet praising Escanor's super cliché transformation. "My love is my strength!" Please.
People complained about Diane actually getting a power up? Did that happen here? I was just glad she did something other than be a meat shield or have a stacking amnesia problem.
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Love is the theme of the tournament…
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Mah Gowther picking the most valuable regrets of people as always. Shit on Escanor escaping his own rules since birth.
Anyway, Hawk was buried, no matter what it was an excelent chapter.
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There's a good chance his transformation is powered not by the position of sun itself, but by psychological reasons. Like the sun itself just represents a positive state of mind and the body acts accordingly.
I can't be annoyed when I didn't even know how Escanor's power works to begin with.
The side story confirmed it was the position of the sun(whic is why it worked despite te darkness. Ans if it's psychological he shouldn't transform while being Ko by Galan.
He's powerlevel is dependant of the sun and he is at his peak at noon(sun at his brightest. His power is literally called sunlight after all.
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The side story confirmed it was the position of the sun(whic is why it worked despite te darkness. Ans if it's psychological he shouldn't transform while being Ko by Galan.
He's powerlevel is dependant of the sun and he is at his peak at noon(sun at his brightest. His power is literally called sunlight after all.
That doesn't really confirm anything. Maybe he's subconsciously aware what time of day it is.
I mean, if his power is so dependant on sun, explain this chapter. If he can just break the rules of his ability by way of associating the sun to a person who isn't even there, the sun might as well not play a part at all.
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But that's just a possibility. We also could think Gowhter never tried before to use nightmare against Escanor and only shut him down using a less damaging spell,which makes sense given that in the past that spell was part of teamwork and now it's a real attack agains an enemy. The difference in the spell could also create a difference in the result…
I doubt he ever tried nightmare on him. My problem is that somehow Gowther failed. It made sense with Fraudin because the nightmare did take care of the host but sadly there was a second mind in there. With Escanor? It's simply another stab at the fact he doesn't understand love and it comes off as lazy. He could put him physically or just shut him down in a regular way but rather than that he decided to go full power and fail due to that annoying cliché of you can't corrupt my love? Why would his spell even work like that?
As for the topic about Merin's role in Escanor's awakening, I just think we don't know the whole story and we'll have more revelations later.
I think it was presented in a pretty straight-forward way. What makes you think there is more
Yes, I had thought about the demon king as the magician who created Gowther. Now the chapter adds the question about the source of the spell put on Escanor…
I think that's such him awakening his power. Hendricksen got his due to his hate of dead so with acid he could get rid of them. Since he was weak minded and physically weak his power become to have power and pride worthy of a king(or godness got involved).
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That doesn't really confirm anything. Maybe he's subconsciously aware what time of day it is.
I mean, if his power id so dependant on sun, explain this chapter. If he can just break the rules of his ability by way of associating the sun to a person who isn't even there, the sun might as well not play a part at all.
Merlin does a pretty simple run down of his power.
Because thinks to Gowther spell everything in his mind was if it was real so having Merlin as a sun when he was under that spell was as if he was under the real thng. It's the same think as killing people by killing them in their mind or Jacky chun making making a werewolf transform through hypnotism. It's a little BSthy but in manga logic illusion are quite powerful.
If the psychological thing thing is true. You really have to wonder why no one ever noticed.
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I doubt he ever tried nightmare on him. My problem is that somehow Gowther failed. It made sense with Fraudin because the nightmare did take care of the host but sadly there was a second mind in there. With Escanor? It's simply another stab at the fact he doesn't understand love and it comes off as lazy. He could put him physically or just shut him down in a regular way but rather than that he decided to go full power and fail due to that annoying cliché of you can't corrupt my love? Why would his spell even work like that?
Well, it can be seen also this way: Gowther failed because he never tried nightmare on Escanor, so he didn't know the effects of that power on him. It's a possible valid plot development since we don't know the nature of Escanor's curse. And even more if the nature of Escanor's curse is somehow related to love or friendship or feelings in general, something that Gowther doesn't understand. It's like if you try to attack with a virus to someone who is inmune and you don't know he is.
I think it was presented in a pretty straight-forward way. What makes you think there is more.
At least there is an inconsistency in the fact that Escanor's power awakens with the sun and with Merlin's image or thought. I mean, it should be one or the other or somehow Merlin has to be equilized to the sun. So pretty sure we dont´know all about Escanor's curse, neither to Merlin's role there. That still should have to be explained.
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Well, it can be seen also this way: Gowther failed because he never tried nightmare on Escanor, so he didn't know the effects of that power on him. It's a possible valid plot development since we don't know the nature of Escanor's curse. And even more if the nature of Escanor's curse is somehow related to love or friendship or feelings in general, something that Gowther doesn't understand. It's like if you try to attack with a virus to someone who is inmune and you don't know he is.
Gowther certainly never tried nightmare on him, he had no reason to. But the problem I have is that it should work just fine and that it wasn't even needed. Yet somehow that has always skillfully use his skills clumsily because he use Merlin? That's just lazy in my opinion and another usage of one of the most annoying trope of shonen "Love trumping logic".
The guy transformed naturally under the sun even when unconscious and when he thought Galan was going to destroy them he was not able to transform. And in the side story Meliodas ask about the sun position when asking if they use Escanor despite Merlin being part of the mission. Nakaba can retcon it but he has done a pretty consistent job at showing that all that matters is the position of the sun.
At least there is an inconsistency in the fact that Escanor's power awakens with the sun and with Merlin's image or thought. I mean, it should be one or the other or somehow Merlin has to be equilized to the sun. So pretty sure we dont´know all about Escanor's curse, neither to Merlin's role there. That still should have to be explained.
Genjustsu are powerful thing in manga and the same as reality usually. As long as his body believe he is watching the sun, he transform. It would like Goku transforming because he believe he is watching the moon. But I expect an explanation next chapter anyway.
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Korean scan of ch 170: http://www.shencomics.com/archives/1637778
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16 chars of Praise the sun.
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! Haha I was pissed for a second that Gowther won, but that last page
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Ahaha. I'm okay with this outcome. Very okay with it.
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Escanor: "Fuck tournaments, they are only filler anyway"
I like some nice touches like the mysterious knight casually killing the demon he was paired with.
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Escanor is going to end this manga in the next 10 chapters.
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So the ax stores the power the releases at noon, but is really stored at the moon?
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Holy shit.
Wonder how they are returning from this.
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So a pseudo-transformed Escanor with Rhitta is almost at the same level as the presumably strongest Ten Commandment, Estarossa. Nice.
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That's quite a big twist ! So big I don't know how I really feel about it. That's a bit cheating let's be honest but I will wait how it is handled in the future chapters
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Escanor the junior saitama!
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Escanor: "Fuck tournaments, they are only filler anyway"
I like some nice touches like the mysterious knight casually killing the demon he was paired with.
Thanks for the heads-up. Nothing beats glasses-wearing Hawk though haha
As for Escanor, he caught me off guard there. Certainly did. And oh how spectacular it was!
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So a pseudo-transformed Escanor with Rhitta is almost at the same level as the presumably strongest Ten Commandment, Estarossa. Nice.
He probably unleashed power that had been stored over several days, so its not like he can pull that move again soon. Estarossa on the other hand surely can.
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That's quite a big twist ! So big I don't know how I really feel about it. That's a bit cheating let's be honest but I will wait how it is handled in the future chapters
Escanor: "Fuck tournaments, they are only filler anyway"
Lol… Quite true, Baldulf! Only for that Escanor deserves a medal. In the middle of crisis of facing a major threat in the last 3000 years, a sin comes with a sensible decision to trash a tourney that didn't make much sense. To me, that's the reason I'd say Escanor is not cheating here (maybe he was the only one, all the others playing according to the rules of the tourney were the real cheaters, so to say it). Sooo nice!
I like some nice touches like the mysterious knight casually killing the demon he was paired with.
Yeap, that was nice touch!
He probably unleashed power that had been stored over several days, so its not like he can pull that move again soon. Estarossa on the other hand surely can.
It doesn't look like power storaged over some days, but rather something he can do really fast. But now I'm worried if Escanor is such an unbeatable good guy that, yes, could end the manga in 10 chapters :blink: Much more if he wasn't at his full level…
Gowther certainly never tried nightmare on him, he had no reason to. But the problem I have is that it should work just fine and that it wasn't even needed. Yet somehow that has always skillfully use his skills clumsily because he use Merlin? That's just lazy in my opinion and another usage of one of the most annoying trope of shonen "Love trumping logic".
So it was what we were talking about: Gowther tried to control Escanor with an attack he haven't used on him and got an un expected contrary effect. But I agree, the idea that Merlin is for Escanor a pseudo-image of the "sun" is forced, even for a story somehow centred in romance.
I wonder about what's next for Gowther. The chapter points to he accepting the result of the tourney (his good side emerges from seeing the commandments beaten), but he does want a heart (her evil side tryind to win at the cost to hurt his friends). And the pleiades are coming for him. Hard to guess.
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Pretty Good Chapter.
I love how when you reread it you can see how Escanor only make sure Gowther won't get on his way. He only knock his glasses away and directly goes to the sky to prepare his attack.
I didn't remember how bad it was for gowther without his glasses. Did we see him lose them before.
I liked the little details in the panel like badass glasses Hawk and the demon getting impaled. Remind me of those Donald comics where the mouse had a mini stories in the corners if you spotted them. I used to reread the stories just to spot them.
That's one badass axe Escanor has. That thing comes flying when ordered to. His power isn't half bad either(solar flare?) but I wonder if you have to let everything out.
Estrossa seems like a pretty strong fellow. Interesting to notice that this pseudo version is weaker than Meliodas so he could have stopped him.
Escanor acts like any sins before him, duty first than the sheningans. With only a couple of seconds he make sure to land an important blow rather than win a meaningless fight.
Gloxiana seems out, but Dolor seems like he could take some more.
So it was what we were talking about: Gowther tried to control Escanor with an attack he haven't used on him and got an un expected contrary effect. But I agree, the idea that Merlin is for Escanor a pseudo-image of the "sun" is forced, even for a story somehow centered in romance
Yup, excatly what I gathered from the last chapter. At least it only last a couple of seconds.
I may not like it but I think the idea was to show the opposite to what happened with Diane and showing Gowther how love can surpass his power(impossible to transform Merlin into a nightmare). It's not like it doesn't make sense, Gowther's nightmare is suppose to feel like reality but it stretched the logic a little. I can buy it, but I just can't like it when you suddenly not good at your job because the hero needs his time to shine.
I wonder about what's next for Gowther. The chapter points to he accepting the result of the tourney (his good side emerges from seeing the commandments beaten), but he does want a heart (her evil side trying to win at the cost to hurt his friends). And the pleiades are coming for him. Hard to guess.
He just seems surprise for now. He will probably be wondering what to do now. He will most likely help since there's nothing to gain from the mad commandments.
Funny that would consider he has a good and evil side, when I consider he has neither. He simply follows what makes the most sense for his goals and have a decent bond with the sins. He is a great example of the creation in search of a soul. Simple example is him KOing Escanor rather than that stupid killing idea.
I consider the sins more like companions with complex relations(like the zoldycs relation chart we had) than friends. For example, Ban and Meliodas are friend but I wouldn't Ban is friend with Merlin. They know and work with each other.
That's quite a big twist ! So big I don't know how I really feel about it. That's a bit cheating let's be honest but I will wait how it is handled in the future chapters
Well he lost anyway. If we are talking about the tournament.
@projectelf:So a pseudo-transformed Escanor with Rhitta is almost at the same level as the presumably strongest Ten Commandment, Estarossa. Nice.
I think the power that equal Estrossa was the one from the axe and he just used it. It could have been stored for years or be the equivalent of Escanor at noon It's a little soon to say Escanor is superior.
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That's one badass axe Escanor has. That thing comes flying when ordered to. His power isn't half bad either(solar flare?) but I wonder if you have to let everything out.
Question: where did Ritha come from? Some special place?
Yup, excatly what I gathered from the last chapter. At least it only last a couple of seconds.
I may not like it but I think the idea was to show the opposite to what happened with Diane and showing Gowther how love can surpass his power(impossible to transform Merlin into a nightmare). It's not like it doesn't make sense, Gowther's nightmare is suppose to feel like reality but it stretched the logic a little. I can buy it, but I just can't like it when you suddenly not good at your job because the hero needs his time to shine.
I have the impression with a solid flashback about Escanor and Merlin presented some chapters ago the effect would be different.
He just seems surprise for now. He will probably be wondering what to do now. He will most likely help since there's nothing to gain from the mad commandments.
With the recent revelations about who is him, it'd be much better if something really happens with him now or soon. I don't like when you are teased and teased…
Funny that would consider he has a good and evil side, when I consider he has neither. He simply follows what makes the most sense for his goals and have a decent bond with the sins. He is a great example of the creation in search of a soul. Simple example is him KOing Escanor rather than that stupid killing idea.
In this arc he showed traces of bipolarism, as well as when controled Guila. It's clear he has two sides: the one who helps the sins, which we know, and the commandment, which seems to be struggling to emerge. It would be a severe conflict to be solved in the future.
I think the power that equal Estrossa was the one from the axe and he just used it. It could have been stored for years or be the equivalent of Escanor at noon It's a little soon to say Escanor is superior.
The chapter says, iirc, the axe chanalizes the power that comes from Escanor; which match the idea (iirc again) that he can increase his shining up to equilize the sun. So the axe is the tool and Escanor is the source of the power. Now,thinking about it, I was thinking the person who curse Escanor must be some kind of wizard related somehow to the light… .... Some goddess?
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Gowther can just take the heart of one of the commandments, but I guess that would be too easy..
He doesn't want a literal heart but the abilty to have feeling (to have a heart).
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we expected a power up from Diane from a confrontation with Dolor but it seems it will have to be postponed.
Also i don’t mind not having more fights between friends but it is a pity we don’t learn more from the new characters. I wonder what will happen to them.Dolor could force a team-up maybe? With Meliodas there that seems unlikely. We probably gonna get some talking between them once that stuff is over.
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What the…So, I guess all those douchebags gonna join the Seven Deadly Sins' Grand Fleet or something. I hope we get to see more info about Dolor and Glox, because we didn't see their Commandments in action yet. But again, a lot was skipped in Kongoh Bancho.
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I'd rather it be literal.
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man, I wanted an actual tournament arc! Escanor2stronk
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Question: where did Ritha come from? Some special place?
Either he left it there yesterday(he couldn't move it at night) or it is that place he was when we met him.
I have the impression with a solid flashback about Escanor and Merlin presented some chapters ago the effect would be different. With the recent revelations about who is him, it'd be much better if something really happens with him now or soon. I don't like when you are teased and teased…
It guess a couple of pages could have helped swallow the pill.
I trust the authors when it comes to his gaidens. His choice of pairing can make you uneasy but the rest is good stuff(although Diane was underwhelming). Considering we just learned about some of his past, it's a little early to say he's been teasing us non-stop. We just got Rosa and royal bloodline.
In this arc he showed traces of bipolarism, as well as when he controlled Guila. It's clear he has two sides: the one who helps the sins, which we know, and the commandment, which seems to be struggling to emerge. It would be a severe conflict to be solved in the future.
He's the same as he always was. Experimenting to know how feelings works. Ban just has "easily" tried to kill Meliodas and both only went to the capital because they had their agendas. While the sins do respect their oath, once they are not on duty they do they best to fulfill their agenda. Meliodas gave the okay for the tournament so trying his best to accomplished his greatest wish seems logical to him. For now the commandments are just tournament organizers rather than enemies.
Only time he ever opposed a sin was because Diane attacked him and he wanted to see if her assessment of the power of love was true.
The chapter says, iirc, the axe chanalizes the power that comes from Escanor; which match the idea (iirc again) that he can increase his shining up to equilize the sun. So the axe is the tool and Escanor is the source of the power. Now,thinking about it, I was thinking the person who curse Escanor must be some kind of wizard related somehow to the light… .... Some goddess?
It also says it can store so it's not sure if he might exceed his own power with enough time.
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Escanor fodderizing commandments lol
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we expected a power up from Diane from a confrontation with Dolor but it seems it will have to be postponed.
Also i don’t mind not having more fights between friends but it is a pity we don’t learn more from the new characters. I wonder what will happen to them.That's a thing I don't like much of the end of the tourney. The author developed three different stories that supposedly could have a happy end with the price of the tourney: Matrona's kid, Diane learns the dance of the hearth (or something like that) that only Dolors masters, and Gowther earns a heart. To me, the most logical rival for Dolor was Diane: both are giants and supposedly she still has to learn the powers Dolor masters. And the idea that she's going to master those powers agains another rival,left you wondering about how would have been if Dolor faces Diane at their top levels? And Diane winning the tourney would have solved also the problem to heal Matrona's kid. (Maybe Elizabeth will do it). But still, it's possible Dolor stands up now; anyhow that seems to be much better than he-resurrects-to-finally-face-Diane scene.
What the…So, I guess all those douchebags gonna join the Seven Deadly Sins' Grand Fleet or something. I hope we get to see more info about Dolor and Glox, because we didn't see their Commandments in action yet. But again, a lot was skipped in Kongoh Bancho.
What part was skipped in KB? I can't remember.
Either he left it there yesterday(he couldn't move it at night) or it is that place he was when we met him.
I'm still going with natural power like all other person with one. But plan B would indeed be a goddess.
Connecting both topics, maybe the axe is in the place where the goddesses are, and Escanor can summon it.
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Escanor's ace kinda reminded me of a keyblade. Perfect for battling a Heartless.
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I probably missed something because I rushed through the last chapters, but why would be tournament be over? Gloxinia is clearly alive in the last panel and we saw he could effortlessly heal and even resurrect a nearly dead person, so he shouldn't have problems putting himself and Dolor back from that.
Btw, I was just following the manga through comments but decided to catch up because, well, Gowther <3 kinda sad that he lost (I mean, that doesn't count as a victory except by the tournament rules), I hope at least he will not have a change of heart (ha!) just because Escanor didn't went after his head - although I accept that planting a seed on him.
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