We've already got an elephant sword, an elephant (mammoth) zoan, an elephant warlord, and an elephant island. How many more elephants do you want?
This will be elephantstic arc.
We've already got an elephant sword, an elephant (mammoth) zoan, an elephant warlord, and an elephant island. How many more elephants do you want?
This will be elephantstic arc.
Pedro's full introduction was rather unceremonious.
Maybe he'll get a better presentation next chapter but for now what little intrigue he brought to the table just got gutted.
We've already got an elephant sword, an elephant (mammoth) zoan, an elephant warlord, and an elephant island. How many more elephants do you want?
Is an elephant (mastodon) zoan so the two zoan can have a trunk wrestling match too much to ask for?:ninja:
Or how about pink elephants?
Aldo we had people like Crocodile, Doflamingo and Monkey D that are not actual monkey, flamingo and crocodile, In Zou it seems to be that way. Catviper is a cat, Dogstorm is a dog, so Raizou coul be elephant, have elephant df, or is a elephant mink.
@Jazzy:
Pedro's full introduction was rather unceremonious.
Maybe he'll get a better presentation next chapter but for now what little intrigue he brought to the table just got gutted.
Yes his introduction so far is lacking. Highly disappointed. 1st chapter we "see" him there is great potential to be an important character with nothing but a silhouette and booming voice. Then it is probably him as the jaguar/leopard Minkmen in the Guardians reveal using a sword. Meh. Now in this reveal that he confirms he is Pedro by stating his name with no panel introduction, beat up on the ground like fodder pleading for help to the Curly Brow/Hat Pirates for his two kings. Shaking my damn head. At least he shows he cared for his "nakamas." Pedro may get a full panel introduction of him alone…but it ain't looking good regardless.
His left chipped ear seems to be from the Jack war. That seems like nothing compared to Inuarashi missing part of his LEFT leg and Nekomamushi missing part of his LEFT arm because of the Jack war. The left side scar theory isn't looking in his favor. Scars when shown or inferred have been caused by a DEEP event in the DISTANT past. The Strawhats scars were caused years/decades ago. Pedro's was probably caused weeks ago.
Plus...since this is the past does this now mean he met the Curly Brow/Hat Pirates 1st instead of Luffy? Luffy met Pedro 1st in chapter 805 in the present. He is then shown meeting the Curly Brow/Hat Pirates in chapter 810 in the past. So for the meet Luffy 1st theory do we go by chapter or real time in One Piece world?
It might be back to the guessing/theorizing drawing board. I was wondering if there were posts somewhere showing ALL the reveals of each Strawhat nakama? I would like to compare Pedro's introduction scenes compared to past Strawhats introductions. I'd rather not have to do it myself.
After all these years, I started to believe that for new nakama apart from job discription or uniqueness, he/she must be someone who is misfit in a sociaty and have kind heart/free spirit and maybe who daydreaming.
So in this ark until now, i think that no one have these values to talk about…
Lets hope that until the end of this ark, we will see characters that could have chances...
We've already got an elephant sword, an elephant (mammoth) zoan, an elephant warlord, and an elephant island. How many more elephants do you want?
I guess it's just elephants all the way down.
I think Bonnie is gonna join.
I think Bonnie is gonna join.
She's a better candidate than some of the ones that are bandied around but I personally can't see it happening.
Anyway, could you elaborate on why you think so?
I think I've read pretty much every aspect of this theory but it's always nice to see if a new take on it might be revealed.
I remember that when once Bonney was mentioned as next nakama material, a certain Mr.R retaliated responding the idea was just fanfic material or something like that.
When every reason you give is nowhere present in the manga, when all the character "traits" you think someone has is something you've created from your own imagination, then yes, its fanfic.
Well, Bonney does have a score to settle with BB, and what better way then join SHs and defeat BB pirates with them. She is also important in general, even to WG, maybe because of her DF? And she is a supernova, is also alone now. She sort of reminds me of Robin in a way.
So yeah, she has more then some characters named here. But yes, we still need more from her before we can make the call.
@uniaka:
Well, Bonney does have a score to settle with BB, and what better way then join SHs and defeat BB pirates with them. She is also important in general, even to WG, maybe because of her DF? And she is a supernova, is also alone now. She sort of reminds me of Robin in a way.
So yeah, she has more then some characters named here. But yes, we still need more from her before we can make the call.
Law had a score to settle with Doffy, did he join the SHs? Moriah has a score to settle with Kaidou is he joining the SHs? Bonnie still has nothing going for her, she is at the same point she was before, she has some interesting going on with her being a fugitive right now but that has nothing to do with her possibly becoming a SHs so no there is no argument or hints for her joining at all.
Law had a score to settle with Doffy, did he join the SHs? Moriah has a score to settle with Kaidou is he joining the SHs? Bonnie still has nothing going for her, she is at the same point she was before, she has some interesting going on with her being a fugitive right now but that has nothing to do with her possibly becoming a SHs so no there is no argument or hints for her joining at all.
You can't compare the importance of Doflamingo or even Kaidou with BB pirates for the SHs. Doflamingo was just one of the first villains to go down after the time skip. BB will be main rival of luffy for pirate king title.
And unlike Bonney, Law has a crew and Moria still has some men. Bonney looks all alone.
@uniaka:
And unlike Bonney, Law has a crew and Moria still has some men. Bonney looks all alone.
Law also seemed to be alone, until we found out his crew was on Zou later.
@Galaxy:
Law also seemed to be alone, until we found out his crew was on Zou later.
We knew about his crew since before the time skip, and there was nothing to suggest someone killed them or captured them. Unlike Bonney's crew that got captured with her and we only saw her alone after she escaped. So either her crew is dead of captured in Impel Down something.
@uniaka:
You can't compare the importance of Doflamingo or even Kaidou with BB pirates for the SHs. Doflamingo was just one of the first villains to go down after the time skip. BB will be main rival of luffy for pirate king title.
And unlike Bonney, Law has a crew and Moria still has some men. Bonney looks all alone.
They are villains like BB and if a character joins Luffy because he has a common enemy, the others could have done just the same thing, don't focus on BB being the possible last villains of the manga because that doesn't change anything.
That doesn't mean she will want to join a crew or Luffy will want her on the crew, she will most likelly be an ally for sure but as far as crewmate nothing indicates that.
They are villains like BB and if a character joins Luffy because he has a common enemy, the others could have done just the same thing, don't focus on BB being the possible last villains of the manga because that doesn't change anything.
That doesn't mean she will want to join a crew or Luffy will want her on the crew, she will most likelly be an ally for sure but as far as crewmate nothing indicates that.
The fact that her enemy is the same as Luffy final enemy is ONE of the things that speak in her favour, aldo not the ONLY one. And since she is also a supernova her role is very important in the story. Aldo, it's not limited to a nakama role.
That alone makes her more likely nakama then Pedro, Monet, Carrot and Who else was there in the last 10 pages or so of this thread.
@uniaka:
The fact that her enemy is the same as Luffy final enemy is ONE of the things that speak in her favour, aldo not the ONLY one. And since she is also a supernova her role is very important in the story. Aldo, it's not limited to a nakama role.
That alone makes her more likely nakama then Pedro, Monet, Carrot and Who else was there in the last 10 pages or so of this thread.
That is not an argument for her to join Luffy crew, join as an allie like I said sure but not on the crew, Law is a Supernova and is curently Luffy allie, she can be the same thing.
Those characters don't have anything supporting them either at this point yes but two of them just showed up and Monet arc is gone and she never had anything besides a bunch of people that ask for every girl with big boobs to join the crew.
I'm saying that at this point, just like people talking about Pedro there is nothing supporting that, I'm not saying I oppose it(even though I hate her devil fruit) but if you say something as a wish sure but speculation should be based on facts and it this point, no she doesn't have a big chance of joining, now if in the next arcs she shows up and during those arcs hints and facts are shown then we can speculate.
I wonder what common theme is there in the Strawhats introduction reveal with a panel. A guess would be each Strawhat is in or causing a scene/moment right before, during, or right after the reveal.
Strawhat introduction reveals
Luffy
http://mangafreak.ws/read2/one-piece/2
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Zoro(no introduction panel)
http://mangafreak.ws/read2/one-piece/3/8
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Usopp
https://www.opbforums.com/manga/One-Piece/chapter-23/page-4
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Brook
https://www.opbforums.com/manga/One-Piece/chapter-442/page-16
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It seems the Strawhats are usually revealed with a introduction panel alone. The exceptions are Zoro, Chopper, and Franky. I didn't see Zoro with an introduction panel. Chopper was revealed behind Dr. Kureha. Franky was revealed in front of the Square Sisters.
They all had some buildup before the reveal. Coby talked up Zoro. Coby and Zoro spoke of needing navigation skills…Nami. Crew needed new members and a ship...then Usopp shows. Luffy really wanted meat and a cook...Sanji. Nami gets sick...Chopper. Robin was the helpful antagonist who invited herself on the ship and who put on Luffy's hat(foreshadowing?). Merry Go was dying...Franky. Crew gets lost in Florian Triangle and finds ghost ship with someone singing...Luffy wanted a musician for a LONG time...Brook. Luffy tries to break out Ace...we find the last Warlord reveal of the time...Jinbe.
So there needs to be some buildup to whoever joins next. A known crew "position" is not necessary at first to be introduced but they will have a role that is more than "fighter" when they finally join. A Lookout and/or Striker fits the bill for the Minkmen but no reference to needing them has been stated except about Luffy telling Robin to announce when an island is in view. The potential buildup could be this Zou battle but who is/are the lead character(s) of the arc? Wanda? Inuarashi and Nekomamushi? Carrot and especially Pedro have been in the backseat letting the others drive the narrative as of chapter 810. That could change...Pedro may get his introduction panel away from the other Guardians. We shall see.
@uniaka:
And since she is also a supernova her role is very important in the story. Aldo, it's not limited to a nakama role.
Yes I agree, Urogue would be an awesome crewmate.
Not counting Luffy and Zoro, There's 9 other supernovas, which has now expanded to include Bart and Cavendish, to make 11. …. and half the strawhats and Bellamy now have bounties and reputations that would qualify them into the Supernova group as well.
Just being a supernova ain't nothing special anymore.
It seems the Strawhats are usually revealed with a introduction panel alone. The exceptions are Zoro, Chopper, and Franky. I didn't see Zoro with an introduction panel. Chopper was revealed behind Dr. Kureha. Franky was revealed in front of the Square Sisters.
When you have four exceptions out of ten, you don't have a pattern.
Especially when Oda does splash fully body shot intros of most important characters.
Yes I agree, Urogue would be an awesome crewmate.
Not counting Luffy and Zoro, There's 9 other supernovas, which has now expanded to include Bart and Cavendish, to make 11. …. and half the strawhats and Bellamy now have bounties and reputations that would qualify them into the Supernova group as well.
Just being a supernova ain't nothing special anymore.
She is the only one that seems alone, and her as likely daughter of WB and her DF that could hide a similar immortal operation like law( and makes her important to WG). So she can't fall in the wrong hands.
When you have four exceptions out of ten, you don't have a pattern.
Especially when Oda does splash fully body shot intros of most important characters.
I understand that. I don't see any patterns…I was looking to see if there was something in common leading up to the reveal and the reveal itself. I know LOTS of characters get full body introductions but was curious if the Strawhats had anything that distinguished themselves in their reveals.
Not counting Luffy and Zoro, There's 9 other supernovas, which has now expanded to include Bart and Cavendish, to make 11. …. and half the strawhats and Bellamy now have bounties and reputations that would qualify them into the Supernova group as well.
Caribou and Coribou too. I don't think the other Strawhats qualify as Supernova's, though, I thought that was only a title for those who got over a 100 million in Paradise.
Yes I agree, Urogue would be an awesome crewmate.
Not counting Luffy and Zoro, There's 9 other supernovas, which has now expanded to include Bart and Cavendish, to make 11. …. and half the strawhats and Bellamy now have bounties and reputations that would qualify them into the Supernova group as well. Just being a supernova ain't nothing special anymore.
But they really don't qualify as Supernova (even the 200M for Usopp) on the bounties.
Supernova are the rookies who get the 100M before they reach Saobaody. While its true we don't know about Bellamy, maybe he did earn it before entering the New World, but out of the SHs, only Luffy & Zoro qualify.
I see the reputation of the Supernova the same way, earned before SA. Comparing how some earn reps/bounty equal to Supernova now in New World now to those earned before… its like comparing two boxers, boxer#1 who reached high in the first year of competition to a #2 that took 2-3 years to reach the same level #1 reaching in his first year. They may fight with equally well but that #1 is still more impressive since he got there first and maintained his lead.
Zou for next nakama (I would like to see him next to Laboon bythe way)
Yes I agree, Urogue would be an awesome crewmate.
Not counting Luffy and Zoro, There's 9 other supernovas, which has now expanded to include Bart and Cavendish, to make 11. …. and half the strawhats and Bellamy now have bounties and reputations that would qualify them into the Supernova group as well.
Just being a supernova ain't nothing special anymore.
Yeah, but there's only one Worst Generation.
And Supernovas are only recognized as such before they reach the New World anyway.
@uniaka:
She is the only one that seems alone,
Law seemed to have abandoned his crew. We still haven't seen Urogue. Most of them had at most one or two minor not heavily designed underlings.
and her as likely daughter of WB
Uhm, what? Based on…? Her crying when one of the great pirates of the era died?
I guess Nami must be the daughter of the Going Merry then.
and her DF that could hide a similar immortal operation like law( and makes her important to WG). So she can't fall in the wrong hands.
She is important to the WG yes, we know that as fact. But so are a lot of people. Everything else is 100% pure idle speculation based on literally nothing.
But they really don't qualify as Supernova (even the 200M for Usopp) on the bounties.
Supernova are the rookies who get the 100M before they reach Saobaody. While its true we don't know about Bellamy, maybe he did earn it before entering the New World, but out of the SHs, only Luffy & Zoro qualify.
Maybe as far as having the "official" branding goes sure. But having half of your lower crew have bounties over a 100 million? When its rare to begin with that an entire crew even has bounties? A whopping week into the new world?
Yes, not getting those bounties one island earlier keeps them out of the official club, but the point is hitting that kind of bounty and having that kind of reputation means very, very little at this point, lots of people do.
And even not counting Strawhats, they still tossed on several more over the timeskip. Being a supernova is in no way a factor for crewmate status.
Yeah, but there's only one Worst Generation.
And that includes Blackbeard. Whatta rookie that's sure to join the crew.
Am I the only one who thinks its weird to consider Capone and Teach rookies even thought they were/are in their 40s?
Its quite a generation gap between individuals in my opinion.
Am I the only one who thinks its weird to consider Capone and Teach rookies even thought they were/are in their 40s?
It refers to how long ago they became notorious criminals. Teach didn't even have a bounty when he beat Ace. He is an old pirate, but his own crew was newly formed.
We don't know about Bege, but I think it' safe to assume that although he's old, his crew is not.
@Helter:
It refers to how long ago they became notorious criminals. Teach didn't even have a bounty when he beat Ace. We don't know about Bege, but I think it' safe to assume that he only became famous two years ago.
It is still pretty weird.
Am I the only one who thinks its weird to consider Capone and Teach rookies even thought they were/are in their 40s?
Its quite a generation gap between individuals in my opinion.
Not really I mean Luffy is the only Supernova that is under 20 so.. all of them really came around somewhat late. And Teach kinda remained in the dark (no pun intended) as far as marines are concerned he didn't have a reason to really show himself until WB was vulnerable at the Marineford War.
As for Capone. He could have just kept small time until now for whatever reason.
Am I the only one who thinks its weird to consider Capone and Teach rookies even thought they were/are in their 40s?
Its quite a generation gap between individuals in my opinion.
Capone could've been a criminal boss before starting a piracy career.
Hell, Drake himself had a reputation as a Rear Admiral, but is still considered a rookie on virtue of starting his pirate career recently.
Uhm, what? Based on…? Her crying when one of the great pirates of the era died?
I guess Nami must be the daughter of the Going Merry then.
oh that old fan-wish (using that wording to be polite instead of saying fan-wank) of "Bonny cried because she's WB's daughter!" theory, ITs been a while but I remember it being as popular as "Bonny cried because she was Ace's lover!" … yeah right :getlost: and you're right the theory(ies) are based on nothing.
Maybe as far as having the "official" branding goes sure. But having half of your lower crew have bounties over a 100 million? When its rare to begin with that an entire crew even has bounties? A whopping week into the new world?
well it wasn't really just one week into the new world that Usopp & Sanji got 100+ million bounties, it was two years of hell training
And Kuzan once said that the SHs were unique since entire crew had bounties. And that was way back in early/mid-way in Paradise at the Long Ring Long Land island. So not really surprising that Oda made so many of the crew have such a high bounty so early in New World.
Yes, not getting those bounties one island earlier keeps them out of the official club, but the point is hitting that kind of bounty and having that kind of reputation means very, very little at this point, lots of people do.
Its not merely the one island deal that separates it, its the Red Line. Throughout the series the Grand Line was portrayed to be tough, and get tougher as one progresses through it. The difference between the two sides of the Grand Line is so vast that while the first half that many don't get through (we just don't really see those average joes beyond what was seen in Jaya with the various crew getting stuck there) the first half and that side is called Paradise.
haha and there's the rub. Supernovas are like normal status and groupings: People feel special when they reach that status then meet the pros who are like "Big deal, I'm not impressed, small fry."
I've always seen the Supernova as a middle ground, they are the most recognized during their rookie years but they may still not reach the same level of old time pros.And even not counting Strawhats, they still tossed on several more over the timeskip. Being a supernova is in no way a factor for crewmate status.
Well no arguing about that last part. I do agree that being a supernova isn't a factor for a crewmate status.
As for 'throwing in several more', I've always imagined that there has always have been supernova status, even before we fans learned of what we call '11 supernova'. And even with thinking of that group Oda showed (by Shakky's comments) what made them unique wasn't that they were all supernova but that all 11 gathered at SA at same time. There wasn't any comment about how amazing that there 11 with status of supernova but what was stated to get attention was they are all there at one time.
That got my attention and made me wonder how many others could there be.Yes you do have a point of there are a lot who have that status. But really when we think of how many pirates are there in OP, its only a small fraction. There are the 11 we saw in SA, then four more (Cavendish, Barto, Coribou & Caribou).
So out of the hundreds of pirates, we only seen 15 Supernova.
We just get oversaturated viewing of them because the average joe pirate is boring.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Am I the only one who thinks its weird to consider Capone and Teach rookies even thought they were/are in their 40s?
Its quite a generation gap between individuals in my opinion.
Not really for Capone since really since age or what generation isn't a factor of when starts a career as a pirate.
Teach is an odd one, who says he's a rookie? I see fans seem to group in that since he's part of the Worst Generation. I've seen it described as the 11 supernova plus the new Yonkou, Blackbeard. but some fans seem to think that since he's in Worst Generation that means he's seen as a rookie by the Marines. not so. I do believe the marines know he's spent years -decade?- on Whitebeard's crew so he's not a rookie.
Yeah they are rookie pirate captains thats just about it, age has no meaning here, they became Pirate Captains and in their first year they got over 100m bounty, I don't see anything weird about it.
I'm 27 if I started playing tennis now and since I've never played it, I would be a rookie not a veteran just because I'm 27, I would definitely not be a Supernova though lol :( .
Yeah they are rookie pirate captains thats just about it, age has no meaning here, they became Pirate Captains and in their first year they got over 100m bounty, I don't see anything weird about it.
I'm 27 if I started playing tennis now and since I've never played it, I would be a rookie not a veteran just because I'm 27, I would definitely not be a Supernova though lol :( .
Come on. Capone should be an inspiration. Be the best pro tennis playing pirate you can be. You'll be up there with the champs one day.
Am I the only one who thinks its weird to consider Capone and Teach rookies even thought they were/are in their 40s?
Its quite a generation gap between individuals in my opinion.
Uruoge is the oldest at 45.
Duke Inurashi for NN
Caesar for next nakama
Am I the only one who thinks its weird to consider Capone and Teach rookies even thought they were/are in their 40s?
Its quite a generation gap between individuals in my opinion.
As some said, I do think it's weird Teach is seen as part of the Worst Generation when his pirate life started many years ago. I honestly never understood that.
@.access:
As some said, I do think it's weird Teach is seen as part of the Worst Generation when his pirate life started many years ago. I honestly never understood that.
It might be because he's had no real recognization up until he became a Warlord.
@.access:
As some said, I do think it's weird Teach is seen as part of the Worst Generation when his pirate life started many years ago. I honestly never understood that.
While he was a pirate for many years, he was just an uninportant member of the Whitebeard Pirates. About 3 years ago he killed Thatch and fled that crew. Then he formed his own crew. But still, no one knew who he was. Two years ago when Laffite mentioned him in that meeting about Crocodile's replacement, still no one knew who he was. It was only after turning in Ace to the Marines that he got recognition. So yeah, he is a rookie. His crew is newly formed. The fact that he is old or the fact that he belonged to another crew doensn't change that. While in that crew, he was no one to the Marines.
As for Bege, my guess is that his crew was newly formed two years ago too, despite the fact that he's old. It's not mandotory for someone to become a pirate at the age of 17.
@Helter:
While he was a pirate for many years, he was just an uninportant member of the Whitebeard Pirates. About 3 years ago he killed Thatch and fled that crew. Then he formed his own crew. But still, no one knew who he was. Two years ago when Laffite mentioned him in that meeting about Crocodile's replacement, still no one knew who he was. It was only after turning in Ace to the Marines that he got recognition. So yeah, he is a rookie. His crew is newly formed. The fact that he is old or the fact that he belonged to another crew doensn't change that. While in that crew, he was no one to the Marines.
As for Bege, my guess is that his crew was newly formed two years ago too, despite the fact that he's old. It's not mandotory for someone to become a pirate at the age of 17.
Hmmmm if I luffy never ran into and beat crocodile what would blackboard have done
Would he still have turned in ace? If he couldn't be a warlord
@Helter:
While he was a pirate for many years, he was just an uninportant member of the Whitebeard Pirates. About 3 years ago he killed Thatch and fled that crew. Then he formed his own crew. But still, no one knew who he was. Two years ago when Laffite mentioned him in that meeting about Crocodile's replacement, still no one knew who he was. It was only after turning in Ace to the Marines that he got recognition. So yeah, he is a rookie. His crew is newly formed. The fact that he is old or the fact that he belonged to another crew doensn't change that. While in that crew, he was no one to the Marines.
As for Bege, my guess is that his crew was newly formed two years ago too, despite the fact that he's old. It's not mandotory for someone to become a pirate at the age of 17.
I'm aware that Teach managed to stay away from the WG eyes until Lafitte proposed his name for Shichibukai, hence his 0 berry bounty. But even after that the WG still remained oblivious of his status as a former WB pirate? I find it hard to believe, I'm pretty sure his former allegiance became known in Marineford.
Also, what makes the supernova/super rookies so unique is that they become a threat worth at least 100 millions less than a year after their piracy life starts. If the starting point was "when the WG starts to see them as a threat" instead of "starting as a pirate", then getting a 100 million bounty within a year wouldn't be that amazing.
@Helter:
While he was a pirate for many years, he was just an uninportant member of the Whitebeard Pirates. About 3 years ago he killed Thatch and fled that crew. Then he formed his own crew. But still, no one knew who he was. Two years ago when Laffite mentioned him in that meeting about Crocodile's replacement, still no one knew who he was. It was only after turning in Ace to the Marines that he got recognition. So yeah, he is a rookie. His crew is newly formed. The fact that he is old or the fact that he belonged to another crew doensn't change that. While in that crew, he was no one to the Marines.
As for Bege, my guess is that his crew was newly formed two years ago too, despite the fact that he's old. It's not mandotory for someone to become a pirate at the age of 17.
Man, I wish this post could be sticky'd above this thread. That's one of the main misconceptions about Jinbe being too old to join the crew, even though guys like Brook and Franky are already two old farts hanging out with teenagers, hell even Robin is portrayed as more of a mature lady compared to Nami.
Jinbe technically should be counted among Croc, Doflamingo, Shanks, Mihawk etc. era of Pirate. They all seem to be in their mid forties or older. Except unlike the others, Jinbe didn't become a Pirate until 11 years ago. He didn't witness Roger's execution like everyone else mentioned either.
Blackbeard is basically the anti Shanks, not to say Shanks pretended to be a no one among Roger's ranks like Teach did with WB, but he was still a novice and inexperienced compared to what he became as a Yonko and probably not considered a threat until he got his own crew and started creating noise.
I so badly want Oda to say. "New crewmate this year!" to watch the fandom lose its absolute fucking mind and start nakaming everyone.
Yeah "Nakaming" new word.. Use it, love it.
I so badly want Oda to say. "New crewmate this year!" to watch the fandom lose its absolute fucking mind and start nakaming everyone.
Yeah "Nakaming" new word.. Use it, love it.
No need. Now since Luffy also has a fleet, it's much more easy to naka..ma..ing everyone. If he's not a nakama, he can still make it in the fleet.