There's just no way that a character has a living mom by his side, it goes against all shonen rules for moms :/
Chapter 802: Zou
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I remember before there was mentions of Whitebeard having a son but he was supposed to be some chameleon DF user who mimics other fighting capabilities I guess the character would be to OP.. Otherwise good read and nice chapter really enjoyed it one of the reason I love One Piece completely weird.
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Is the translation better than I thought or was it redone? Or was better translation released somewhere already yet I didn't notice?
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well this chapter was ok
the mom and son remind me of
the two main characters from the "Of mice and Men" book
Fat Buu & Babidithey are sideplot threat, so not totally important. Kaido is the main enemy currently so yea..
i kinda would prefer a Daughter of Whitebeard(age 25) who have white hair that curves like Whitebeard's beard and is tall
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Nice chapter but sadly no Sanji and Co.
But the biggest question for me is right now… Is this "son" really the Shichibukai who cut Zephyr's arm like a pussy or are is the story now really "non canon"
i thought it was doflamingo that cut off Zs arm? considering it happened years before the storyline started
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if weeble/weevil is majin buu, will usopp become his mr satan?
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This Zou thing is pretty similar to the Florian triangle stuff back in Thriller bark.
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paradise is the way the first half of the grand line is called (by the ones who taste the new world)..and no,it can't be the same thing because the elephant,big as it may be,can't pass through the red line,nor go under it
I'm not convinced, what can it be than? Same fog phenomenon and same curious strange huge size thing. Hopefully Oda is gonna explain it soon
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theory:mink men are just anthropomorphic animals in general… bepo comes from here, and that's how he had a vivre card that pointed them on the island despite it being impossible to find with logposes
Sorry but I don't think so. The minkgirl looked nothing like Pekoms or Bepo: no beady eyes, her snout is more angular… And why would they be called minkmen in the first place if they had more animals in their group? They're most likely just some other animal-like race. The three-eyed girl already implies that there's more races than the slave list covered.
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@Light:
Sorry but I don't think so. The minkgirl looked nothing like Pekoms or Bepo: no beady eyes, her snout is more angular… And why would they be called minkmen in the first place if they had more animals in their group? They're most likely just some other animal-like race. The three-eyed girl already implies that there's more races than the slave list covered.
Who says all minkmen must have beady eyes?
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i thought it was doflamingo that cut off Zs arm? considering it happened years before the storyline started
no,it didn't
his arm was cut during the timeskip or just before itthe ex admiral and the shichibukai already met years before though,but zephir spared his life (and let him go?) because the shichibukai beg him about it…so it's probably that you are talking about.
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I take it Whitebeard Jr. is just a dumbass, simple hick with a stereotypical "ALABAMMER" accent who's being manipulated by his mother into thinking he's Whitebeard's son for some hidden agenda. A simpleton, but a powerful one.
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water is too shallow..if it can walk,it can use his powers
But, isn't Kairoseki ,which it is said to be sea in stone form, weaks from just touching, should the same happens when your legs touch it?
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This Zou thing is pretty similar to the Florian triangle stuff back in Thriller bark.
I got that feeling too when the mist appeared and same with the eerie look of the elephant.
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I'm not convinced, what can it be than? Same fog phenomenon and same curious strange huge size thing. Hopefully Oda is gonna explain it soon
it was nothing..just something used by oda to confirm that the florian triangle was haunted well before moria decide to made it his home.
also,what doesn't convince you about that big elephant like that not being able to pass over a wall of rock so high you can't see the summit?
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I remember before there was mentions of Whitebeard having a son but he was supposed to be some chameleon DF user who mimics other fighting capabilities I guess the character would be to OP.. Otherwise good read and nice chapter really enjoyed it one of the reason I love One Piece completely weird.
Non canon:
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An island on the back of an elephant?! Where's Oda getting these ideas?! I like it.
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I wasn't exactly a fan of Weevil the moment I read the chapter, but now, 3 hours later, I am already liking this guy a lot. Go figure…
I don't think he is WB real son. I mean, we know Newgate and how he longed for a family, so I can't see him leaving his son behind. Still, would be great if the son of the strongest man turned out to be this guy.Also, I am with those that could see Lola being his sister. On that first panel with the old lady (no idea how to properly say her name) I actually thought I was looking at Lola, an older version of her sure, and was confused for a second. Sure it could be just because someone made a thread about her yesterday and she was on my mind, though...
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But, isn't Kairoseki ,which it is said to be sea in stone form, weaks from just touching, should the same happens when your legs touch it?
kairoseki seem to be "concentrated sea power"..just a little amount touching a df user is just like the user would be entirely submerged..but as waters go,they have to be at least submerged to their waist or something like that..ankle deep water doesn't do anything
if you remember back in alabasta,luffy started feeling the effects only when the level arrived at his waist (when he was inside the cage under the casino)
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I like my theory of her being an amazon a lot better,. i don't see how else this childish moron got that strong and can probably use haki ( natural assumption to make) unless she taught him/trained him…..
Of course this is supported by no facts other than she kinda reminds me of Nyon.....
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@Light:
Sorry but I don't think so. The minkgirl looked nothing like Pekoms or Bepo: no beady eyes, her snout is more angular… And why would they be called minkmen in the first place if they had more animals in their group? They're most likely just some other animal-like race. The three-eyed girl already implies that there's more races than the slave list covered.
fishmen and merfolk are one species but they are all different,they resemble different types of fish
the principle would be the same,only with land animalsof course it's just a theory..but if it's not correct i wanna know how law's crew managed to go there in the first place..even law has never been on the island,and you can't find it by logpose..you need a vivre card of someone who lives there
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whitebeard has son .. nooooo can't be
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whitebeard has son .. nooooo can't be
:getlost:I'm outraged that Whitebread had sex outside of marriage
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I'm I the only one here wondering how long this elephant island legs are?
I mean the elephant doesn't seem to be floating or swimming in the ocean but rather standing up, and oceans go as deep as 10,000ft down.
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Hopefully we get to know which of WB crew members were taken out I would like to know how strong this guy is being a shichibukai and all, and claiming to be whitebeards son, I think he's just using the name for fame.
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I'm actually wondering about the history of the minkmen on top of this elephant. Are all Minkmen from Zou? Or is this a specified tribe, meaning there's minkmen living outside of Zou. This elephant was alive during the void century, could there be a poneglyph or will Luffy hear the elephant's voice? Pretty interesting stuff.
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I like my theory of her being an amazon a lot better,. i don't see how else this childish moron got that strong and can probably use haki ( natural assumption to make) unless she taught him/trained him…..
Of course this is supported by no facts other than she kinda reminds me of Nyon.....
I think it was estabilished that all women from Amazon Lily can only have baby girls,
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I'm actually wondering about the history of the minkmen on top of this elephant. Are all Minkmen from Zou? Or is this a specified tribe, meaning there's minkmen living outside of Zou. This elephant was alive during the void century, could there be a poneglyph or will Luffy hear the elephant's voice? Pretty interesting stuff.
We think alike. I said this earlier in the topic. Given this thing is 1000 years old, and the people hate humans, perhaps there is a poneglyph on there….it seems like an ideal location...
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Looking forward to the SBS where someone asks Oda to draw Gambia's grandmother.
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We think alike. I said this earlier in the topic. Given this thing is 1000 years old, and the people hate humans, perhaps there is a poneglyph on there….it seems like an ideal location...
Good to know I'm bot alone in this mindset. Honestly, the way Law portrayed Zou and the Minkmen, it's got to have a special secret to it.
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Id imagine the strawhat crew reuniting next chapter in unlikley circumstances
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I think it was estabilished that all women from Amazon Lily can only have baby girls,
who and when has said that?i don't remember it at all..the only part about children is where they say that some member goes on a voyage and comes back with a child /children..nothing about the inablity of making males.
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I'm actually wondering about the history of the minkmen on top of this elephant. Are all Minkmen from Zou? Or is this a specified tribe, meaning there's minkmen living outside of Zou. This elephant was alive during the void century, could there be a poneglyph or will Luffy hear the elephant's voice? Pretty interesting stuff.
Nice thoughts. Keep in mind that we have a crewmember that can talk to animals!
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@Eat:
Nice thoughts. Keep in mind that we have a crewmember that can talk to animals!
Luffy has the whole "Can hear the voice of all things" haki, while being on a Thousand-Year Old Elephant kinda helps develope that. This is Chopper's arc, Huh? Lol
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who and when has said that?i don't remember it at all..the only part about children is where they say that some member goes on a voyage and comes back with a child /children..nothing about the inablity of making males.
http://mangafox.me/manga/one_piece/v53/c515/2.html
It is said they are born in there.
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http://mangafox.me/manga/one_piece/v53/c515/2.html
It is said they are born in there.
you are right..it is kinda strange,but if the translation is correct,it's what it says
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who and when has said that?i don't remember it at all..the only part about children is where they say that some member goes on a voyage and comes back with a child /children..nothing about the inablity of making males.
they probably just bring home only the female for obvious reasons.The question is who and when goes there and makes all those babies.
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I dislike this "I'm Whitebeard's son" guy. Dissapointment of the century when it comes to a Schichibukai. That aside, I loved this chapter! The idea of seeing the old Whitebeard Pirates crew will be fun! I found it funny that all this stuff went wrong on Bartomleo's ship, yet it's the one they chose to go with! (Which I'm still glad for btw as I love Bart as a character) but this whole elephant business leaves me wondering: does that mean Sanji and them are on it or did they go to a different Island? Cuz it's not like they had this detail properly explained to them as far as I can tell…
All in all, aside from the stupid new Schichibukai.. this was a very fun chapter and a very goofy introduction to a new arc.. as it should be!
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That clearly wasn't canon. If this guy became an Shichibukai during the time skip and around the same time "Z" was still part of the Marines, we'd have heard some mention of him, plus a guy like that woulda been at Marineford when the war with WB went down.
At least with Shiki, he was a canon character, and Sengoku mentioned him….
"We'd have heard some mention of him." No, we wouldn't because the amount of information thhat is being held from us readers is enormous. Oda is feeding us info in tiny drops more or less.
Also, can't remember how many times I read "Sabo would have been on Marineford if he was alive".
Besides, Zephyr getting attacked and losing his cadets and arm wasn't that long ago.
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I dislike this "I'm Whitebeard's son" guy. Dissapointment of the century when it comes to a Schichibukai. That aside, I loved this chapter! The idea of seeing the old Whitebeard Pirates crew will be fun!!
Not so fun when Whitey's true son kills them all.
Man i actually liked some of those commanders, sad to see 'em go.
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The equation es simple.
Too many similarities:
1-Oars Jr vs Whitebeard Jr
2-Hogback vs Miss Bucking
3-Whitebeard Jr took Moria's position in the Shikibukai (too many coincidences)
4-A long time ago, Moria met a master doctor/surgeon named Miss Bucking. She was a master surgeon capable of rejoining body and dead parts. She became Moria doctor in his ship.
5-Miss Bucking obliged Moria to become Shickibukai so she can "hunt" pirates for money and freedom from the WG.
6-After his defeat with Kaidou and all his crew wipeout Miss Bucking left seeking for another "stronger" pirate to win money and a better crew.
7-Moria left with Absalom and Perona and wanted to "find" another doctor. Miss Bucking told him about Doctor Hogback an old student she had, one of the best she had.
8-Hogback was a doctor and not a pirate. The only way Moria had to take Hogback in his side was to "kill" Cindry. Moria "killed" Cindry and asked him if he wanted to join him and "ressurect" his beloved one.
9-Luffy defeated Moria. He wanted after that, not to create the biggest zombie army, but to take the best corpses available of the strongest pirates.
10-After the War, Moria hide from the WG in the shadows and met again with Miss Bucking.
11- He told her his new "plan". To create the definitive zombie "Whitebeard" in other to destroy Kaidou and WG. He went to the tomb, stole his weapon and found a way to ressurrect him with Miss Bucking ability.
12-Whitebeard Jr was too powerful to be controled by Moria and he was manipulated by Miss Bucking in order to win more money hunting pirates. He's the definitive pirate hunter. Miss Bucking ordered Whitebeard Jr to join Shikibukai so she can freely defeat pirates and do what she wants without having the WG controling her.
13-Ace body was too damaged to be "resurrected" (or maybe not)…
14-Moria will appear or in Blackbeard arc or in Kaidou arc. I prefer Kaidou because he was his supreme rival... HE WANTS REVENGE!
15-After that, Moria will help Luffy to defeat Kaidou and Whitebeard Jr...
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it said "one week later.."
how about Big Mom Tea Party that will happened in about 2 days (?) from dressrosa event?Give up on that already! It already happened during the Dressrosa arc itself while everyone was resting from defeating the Doflamingo Pirates! We won't see what came of it for a long, long while.
Much like how we probably won't see what happened between Kaido vs the Kid Sleepover alliance for a long, long while.
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Zou is why I love One piece. I got a feeling Zou is an island that is not easily found but never expected it to be an island that is actually an gigantic 1000 years old elephant.
I wonder what does the elephant eats or why it's in the sea all the time? Is it because it's too big? It's legs are really loooooong. I guess it sits sometime or else nobody will be able to get on Zou.
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Is the elephant actually walking on water surface, or is the water shallow there
I figure neither. It's just a really tall Elephant so it can walk in deep water even. Otherwise how would it travel everywhere?
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"It's Buggy's Coat!"
LoL
Heh, I'm glad it wasn't.
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Zou is why I love One piece. I got a feeling Zou is an island that is not easily found but never expected it to be an island that is actually an gigantic 1000 years old elephant.
I wonder what does the elephant eats or why it's in the sea all the time? Is it because it's too big? It's legs are really loooooong. I guess it sits sometime or else nobody will be able to get on Zou.
It would be funny if someone actually built houses or passageway inside of the elephant just like with Laboon.really depends on how the "island" is developed. I liked first half of one piece b/c the scope of the island felt big even for smaller islands like little garden. Compared to dressrosa which felt tiny even though it probably is the same size.
Also I want culture and a uniqueness about the island. Alabasta was so fleshed out b/c they had their own species of animals and the whole island was an entirely different culture that you felt without having it in the focus.
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Really cool and silly chapter. Why is there a lizard man sitting on luffy's hat? NVM that's luffy xD
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really depends on how the "island" is developed. I liked first half of one piece b/c the scope of the island felt big even for smaller islands like little garden. Compared to dressrosa which felt tiny even though it probably is the same size.
Also I want culture and a uniqueness about the island. Alabasta was so fleshed out b/c they had their own species of animals and the whole island was an entirely different culture that you felt without having it in the focus.
And Dressrosa wasn't fleshed out? with references to Spain, Italy, their own "animals" like you said with the Fighting fish, their own race(dwarves) and other fauna with Green bit.
Really cool and silly chapter. Why is there a lizard man sitting on luffy's hat?
What ? where?
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i thought it was doflamingo that cut off Zs arm? considering it happened years before the storyline started
No… Reread the story of Zephyr in Volume 10