Jack has a elephant/mammoth devil fruit…?
Chapter 801: Opening Declaration
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I could see Jinbe joining and then Zoro (and others) quickly getting a raise that would put Zoro over the top. Realistically a bounty of over 400M for a non-captain shouldn't happen until after at least one Yonkou falls, which happens to likely be when the next bounty increase will occur.
Ah, but as we've just seen, Zoro's bounty increases don't play by the same rules as everyone else's.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Jinbei join officially pretty much at the same time as the next bounty increase.
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I wonder if there are any other "only alive"-criminals out there. My best guess would be Jewelry Bonney.
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About the whole rare blood type discussion:
Sanji's bloodtype is most likely 0 rh- .The reason for its rarity is that both alleles are recessive, the alleles itself aren't that uncommon. In fact the 0 allele is more common than the B allele. -
You tell that like doing that wouldn't mean an act of war against big mom, an emperor just like Kaidou, who scared doflamingo shit less. There's a reason why mermaids are worth that much. and Nami needed almost a decade to get around 90 mln berries.. still comparing, the entire golden city treasure they got from inside the big snake was worth 300 mln Berry.
so.. no.. Doflamingo wouldn't be able to promptly put the bounty back. on usopp.. not without any kind of assets like he is now.
with Kaidou's money? sure.. but not by himself.. 500 mln Berry are not peanutsHe doesn't have to openly do it, so yes he would. Even the weak like Caribou do it openly. Speaking of, he could just capture weaker 100m plus bounties like Caribou and turn them in. Even a simple Pacifista got more than a 100 in an afternoons work on Sabaody. He could openly ransom a CD like he did with the WG's secret to get to his position. There's tons of ways to make money in the OP world. Beli is like size in the OP world, it's incosistent as hell and doesn't mean much at all. Idon't get why you are even arguing this.
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Can somebody explain to me all this hype around the "smuggling list" the revolutionaries and CP0 were looking for ?
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About the whole rare blood type discussion:
Sanji's bloodtype is most likely 0 rh- .The reason for its rarity is that both alleles are recessive, the alleles itself aren't that uncommon. In fact the 0 allele is more common than the B allele.we already know that blood type in onepiece are different.. luffy was f if I remember correctly
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So we got to see a couple of familiar faces (Lucci infiltrating CP0?) and some new ones were hinted as well, at least I made out some unknown outlines. Captain Jack, who seems to be part of Kaido's crew judging from the emblem on their sail, is attempting to free Doflamingo, but I can't see him getting past Tsuru, Sengoku and Fuji… poor guy doesn't know what he's headed into. Barto and his gang continue to be absolutely ridiculous showing off their ship. And we get to see new bounties to top everything off - what a nice chapter.
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He doesn't have to openly do it, so yes he would. Even the weak like Caribou do it openly. Speaking of, he could just capture weaker 100m plus bounties like Caribou and turn them in. Even a simple Pacifista got more than a 100 in an afternoons work on Sabaody. He could openly ransom a CD like he did with the WG's secret to get to his position. There's tons of ways to make money in the OP world. Beli is like size in the OP world, it's incosistent as hell and doesn't mean much at all. Idon't get why you are even arguing this.
there's one way in and one way out in fishman island..if you are not caribou, you can't smuggle anything out of it.
for the bounties, he can't because he would have a bounty himself. so he can't redeem them.
a blackmail to the teryuubito. might work.. but he would still get 2 admirals waiting for him together with the money.. Just like when teach tried to bargain bonney.
i don't find Berry to be inconsistent.. given we don't know how much normal items costs in the onepiece world, 500 mln Berry is still an outrageous amount of money, that becomes pocket change when you talk about kings, emperors and the such.. Just like in real life.. there are guys who can spend millions in one day of shopping, doesn't mean a couple million bucks are not a shit load of money when you start from nothing -
How about X-Drake is the 7th Shichibukai.. I mean, don't tell me Oda put him in there only because there's no space left to put him with the rest of the worst generation
Well.. it's clearly not randomly.. Yonkos.. Shichibukais.. Supernovas. I really hope it's new character.. badass one, but that's something worth to be notice
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I don't know why you guys don't like Zoro's raise so much.. anyone who can dice up a mountain deserves a bounty above 300m.
Also, Ussop's raise is arguably 200m and not 170m, like Zoro's, since the 30m bounty was given to Sogeking, so it's a brand new wanted poster rather than an update.
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The rh-system seems to be the same as in the real world and Franky and Robin having the blood type XF highly suggest that X and F are identical with A and B, which leaves S as being 0. That's why I wrote that Sanji is 0 rh-.
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there's one way in and one way out in fishman island..if you are not caribou, you can't smuggle anything out of it.
for the bounties, he can't because he would have a bounty himself. so he can't redeem them.
a blackmail to the teryuubito. might work.. but he would still get 2 admirals waiting for him together with the money.. Just like when teach tried to bargain bonney.
i don't find Berry to be inconsistent.. given we don't know how much normal items costs in the onepiece world, 500 mln Berry is still an outrageous amount of money, that becomes pocket change when you talk about kings, emperors and the such.. Just like in real life.. there are guys who can spend millions in one day of shopping, doesn't mean a couple million bucks are not a shit load of money when you start from nothingYou can smuggle all you want on your ship, you can't make up border customs just for the sake of your argument. Only Caribou can, but the biggest Broker and smuggler in the OP world can't? He can't let someone else redeem his bounty either with all his connections? No two admirals waited for Doffy when he blackmailed for a position in the shichibukai, they could've done it any day of the week with Doffy as a shichibukai. Exactly, 500mln beli becomes pocketchange to the powerful and Doffy is still powerful and influential when he escapes.
Let's just agree to disagree then, since all this is based on a tongue in cheek gag on Usopps bounty…
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I don't know why you guys don't like Zoro's raise so much.. anyone who can dice up a mountain deserves a bounty above 300m.
Also, Ussop's raise is arguably 200m and not 170m, like Zoro's, since the 30m bounty was given to Sogeking, so it's a brand new wanted poster rather than an update.
Well I don't think at the wg are so stupid to not understand that sogeKing was usopp.. not everyone is luffy and chopper
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Can somebody explain to me all this hype around the "smuggling list" the revolutionaries and CP0 were looking for ?
Well, we know Doffy was at the center of a huge international black market weapons trade that was drawing massive wealth for him while sponsoring damaging wars around the world. The revolutionaries' main purpose on Dressrosa was the investigation of this weapons trade, so they naturally want a list of all parties involved. Their first assumption is that said parties are all independent criminal groups, but Koala discovers that covert, official kingdom ships (like Doerena's) are smuggling weapons as well. I'm guessing Koala spent some time making a list of all traders she could identify, which she reports to Sabo as they leave. I'm guessing the revolutionaries' goal is to stop or influence the outcomes of the wars. Sabo mentioned that they're trying to find where the weapons are actually made. The Dressrosa port was just where they were distributed.
As for CP0, they're not interested in the list, but in the actual weapons. Looks like the revolutionaries took all idle weapons cargo with them. It's anybody's guess why they'd want the weapons, though. Maybe to cover up the involvement of World Government-affiliated nations?
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wow sanji is celestial dragon and barto's crew and ship are hilarious lol
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How about X-Drake is the 7th Shichibukai.. I mean, don't tell me Oda put him in there only because there's no space left to put him with the rest of the worst generation
I took it more as a subtle way to highlight Drake visually; Oda is telling the readers, "Hey! This guy is about to become more important in the story!" Given his side-coverage in Law's flashback and his involvement with Kaido, he's definitely the Supernova next-in-line for development.
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You can smuggle all you want on your ship, you can't make up border customs just for the sake of your argument. Only Caribou can, but the biggest Broker and smuggler in the OP world can't? He can't let someone else redeem his bounty either with all his connections? No two admirals waited for Doffy when he blackmailed for a position in the shichibukai, they could've done it any day of the week with Doffy as a shichibukai. Exactly, 500mln beli becomes pocketchange to the powerful and Doffy is still powerful and influential when he escapes.
Let's just agree to disagree then, since all this is based on a tongue in cheek gag on Usopps bounty…
You can't inspect the inside of caribou stomach.. but you can inspect a ship… and border customs are not made up, especially when a couple of ma raids go missing and there are clearly one entrance and on exit for a reason.
also the biggest broker doesn't have anything to broke with.. no underground port.,no goods, no ships, no nothing.. he has the connections, sure.. but his empire has collapsed.
who exactly doflamingo knows who isn't a pirate of his crew who he can trust to go redeem bounties for him?
for the blackmail.. before calming him with the shichibukai position was an option.. now it is not..anyway, I'm OK with letting it go.
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Jack is captain morgan you heard it first from me look at the mouth brace! Lol
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I hope we get some reaction shot to the bounties next chapter, including Kid who is pissed both Luffy and Law surpassed him.
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Suuuuuper great chapter!! I really think Doffy won't stay long in Impel Down. I like the new wanted pictures (OMG Nami) and I'm fine with the bounties (exept chopper, I expected his bounty to go up after Sabaody)
Although, I found it quite ironical that the first captain of luffy's new fleet cavendish has a higher bounty than zoro, the number two of the mugis, and the same for barto's bounty being higher than sanji's, they kind of stole the hype this arc, till the end. -
Also, how is Robin only 130 mil? You'd think they'd give her a waaaay higher bounty considering she can read poneglyphs and apparently poses a huge threat to the government. Unless they're just trying to play it cool or can't think up a good fake reason to raise it higher.
She got 80mil for that
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Usopp has the third highest bounty in the crew now, and will Chopper ever get a normal bounty? :c
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Also, Ussop's raise is arguably 200m and not 170m, like Zoro's, since the 30m bounty was given to Sogeking, so it's a brand new wanted poster rather than an update.
Pacifistas were identifying Usopp as Soegking a good while ago, the WG know who Usopp is.
It's an update.
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You can't inspect the inside of caribou stomach.. but you can inspect a ship… and border customs are not made up, especially when a couple of ma raids go missing and there are clearly one entrance and on exit for a reason.
also the biggest broker doesn't have anything to broke with.. no underground port.,no goods, no ships, no nothing.. he has the connections, sure.. but his empire has collapsed.
who exactly doflamingo knows who isn't a pirate of his crew who he can trust to go redeem bounties for him?
for the blackmail.. before calming him with the shichibukai position was an option.. now it is not..anyway, I'm OK with letting it go.
There's no customs, saying there should be is making stuff up. Being a broker is all about connections and in One Piece, power. Doffy still has both, the rest can come easily. Doffy can let any low pirate redeem his bounties as long as he's in the shadows. His shichibukai position is no longer negotiable, so he could just blackmail for all other things he needs.
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Hmm, anyone notice the extra face in the Revolutionary spread? I wonder who that is to the left of Ivankov.
Overall, AWESOME chapter. SANJI HYPE. Oda, us Sanji fans have been waiting for something big with him. We hope you do us proud
Ohhh, can't agree with you more~
I was like OHMYGODFINALLY =D -
I hope we get some reaction shot to the bounties next chapter, including Kid who is pissed both Luffy and Law surpassed him.
I doubt Kid has time to react to anything right now
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Is everyone ignoring that Spandam appears to be Lucchi's underling now?
Perhaps finally his shoes have mastered their devil fruit and can transform?
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As Dressrosa's final nail in the coffin, King Riku's speech. . .wasn't that much of a speech at all? I guess all the stuff about the fickleness of the masses was swept aside after we discovered the citizens were good guys all along, which is. . .kinda disappointing. If there's a gripe I have with this chapter, is this one: King Riku and as an extension Dressrosa deserved a more epic send-off (though the statues ARE fucking epic as hell, and the best way to bring back that element into play)…
..Everything else though? Holy ass fucking shit.
Most epic shit ever.
As it's been said before. . .I don't even know where to begin. It's TOO epic.
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Lucci…My old friend.
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So the whole joke with they not being able to take a picture of Sanji pre-timeskip, and taking one in which his face didn't appear after the timeskip until now… actually had a purpose.
Guys I'm hyped, this is something Oda has been planning since at least seven years. Someone recognized Sanji from that picture. -
The whole "Supernova" label isn't so much about the bounty as it is about the people called that. Supernova isn't a title that's just given out to any pirate whose bounty exceeds 100,000,000. The 11 Supernovae are pirates who happened to traverse Paradise at the same time, gaining a great deal of notoriety (and bounty) and reaching the Red Line at the same time. What's special about them is that it's unusual for so many pirates to make a big name for themselves in one go; not only that, but these pirates are consistently responsible for outrageous incidents well beyond the antics of typical pirates.
Oh thanks for clarifying. Although I would guess the strawhats become particularly noteworthy even among those now that half the crew is over 100 million.
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Captain JACK SPARROW? new shichibukai sparrow theme? lol
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sanji got the shaft again….ugh. whatever I like ussop but people need to realize the epic SH is SANJI
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Oh thanks for clarifying. Although I would guess the strawhats become particularly noteworthy even among those now that half the crew is over 100 million.
That's nor exactly right. Bartolomeo was also called Supernova and Super Rookie, but it seems the terms are synonymous. Most likely a term is used for any pirate that gets to 100 mil prior to getting into NW.
Luffy's generation is distinct because they are called "11 Supernovas" . And they were possibly first who were called that.
Great chapter. Too bad the 7th Shichibukai wasn't shown at least a little. That's mean, Oda.
That unknown Revo could be the crow/raven devil fruit guy. My bet is mythical zoan Yatagarasu.
I also first thought Jack might be Morgan, for obvious reasons, but that just sounds too silly. But objectively, he could have gotten stronger, and eaten some pimp devil fruit. Best to reserve judgment.
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When I think more about this chapter, my inner Sanji-fan seems to awaken :happy:
And I get more excited about what's to come.! Also:
What sorcery is this. I can't stop listening.
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When I think more about this chapter, my inner Sanji-fan seems to awaken :happy:
And I get more excited about what's to come.What sorcery is this. I can't stop listening.
I feel so old when people don't know Captain Jack :sad:
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What sorcery is this. I can't stop listening.
The song is Captain Jack by… Captain Jack. :ninja:
Kinda miss that dance era.
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Indeed, but it still kind of flies in the face of everything we've seen in terms of bounty increases so far.
Rules shouldn't be bent this heavily for one character.
Luffy went from 30M to 100M to 300M. Zoro going from 60M to 120 to 320M isn't as surprising or unusual as you make it out to be.
Zoro beat a Pacifisata in 2 seconds. Clashed with an Admiral twice without being utterly destroyed in 2 seconds. He also beat a stone colossus that'd dwarf Orz and his clansmen. -
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Prediction:
Chopper will have an important role to play during the Kaido arc, which will result in him getting a real bounty. The mug shot will probably be monster Chopper
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Pwngoat why did thet took your horns?
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Prediction:
Chopper will have an important role to play during the Kaido arc, which will result in him getting a real bounty. The mug shot will probably be monster Chopper
Maybe a bounty for each one of his forms
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What a fucking amazing chapter! I am so happy right now. It just felt like One Piece used to feel before the timeskip and that alone means it was delightful.
This week I was looking at Sogeking videos and thinking "that's why OP is not that good anymore, it's taking itself too seriously. There is no place for something as silly as Sogeking happening in the current manga. Well, every shonen manga that starts with heavy humor but have the fighting side prominent as well eventually changes and leaves the light humor on third or fourth place, OP just took longer than the others".
But reading this chapter it just felt like the old times. I couldn't be happier if this could continue for some chapters now.
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ROB FUCKING LUCCI!!! I am not exactly his fan, but I LOVE the old CP9 (Jabra and Kaku are among my all-time favorite characters in OP) and I am sure they will all be together. I wonder what it means they are back at working with the government. Although there goes my hopes they became pirates and Lucci was the 7th Shichibukai (… I know, I don't usually expect realistic things).
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Talking about the Shichibukai, that strange guy when Doffy was speaking was supposed to be the 7th? His placement makes it look like he is one of he Yonkou, so it is just a terrible photo of Big Mom?
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Sanji only wanted alive... (...) ... if the "he is a prince/celestial dragon" theory turns out to be right, I have to say it will be one of the most amazing wild guesses I ever saw. But still, if this is related to his origins, I am glad Oda will bother developing the SH (and, god, Sanji deserves some attention).
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EDIT: Oh, and I almost forgot: Bellamy! I won't say much to not be a jerk to his fans, but I am really happy how he was handled in the end :ninja:
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EDIT AGAIN: Also, it looks like Buggy is wearing a new hat. God allow it! I hate his old hat and was really frustrated when he appeared with it again.What I thought to be a hat was just Shank's neck…
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Who is the guy on right to Blackbeard, one with the scar on his chin?
Drake
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- Talking about the Shichibukai, that strange guy when Doffy was speaking was supposed to be the 7th? His placement makes it look like he is one of he Yonkou, so it is just a terrible photo of Big Mom?
I'd think any photo of her is terrible, though?
Yeah, it's Big Mom with a quirky hat. No sign of 7th Shichi. Is that guy such a big of a deal that Oda has to hide him this much?
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About CP0. I imagine the CP0 have more memebers, not just the original 3. Lucci doesn't have the same mask as the original 3, it's something else. Only Spandaman has the outfit of the one in middle of the original 3.
I'd think any photo of her is terrible, though?
Yeah, it's Big Mom with a quirky hat. No sign of 7th Shichi. Is that guy such a big of a deal that Oda has to hide him this much?
To not show even a shadow makes me think the new warlord could be a known character, not new. Another thing is that we don't even have a name.
What if the 7 warlord won't play any real role in the manga, but he will be introduced in the new one piece movie and Oda made some hype around him in the manga to advertise the new movie.
He is related to the last movie more then he is to this manga.
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Luffy went from 30M to 100M to 300M. Zoro going from 60M to 120 to 320M isn't as surprising or unusual as you make it out to be.
Zoro assists in the taking down of a shichibukai and takes down a prominent subordinate : 60M increase
Zoro assists in raiding one of the great government strongholds and takes down a prominent assassin : 60M increase
Zoro assists in the taking down of a shichibukai and takes down a prominent subordinate : 200M increase…you really don't think that's surprising or unusual?
Or to look at it from another perspective, Zoro assisting in taking down Doflamingo and defeating Pica is apparently equal to Luffy leading his crew into a government stronghold, declaring war on the world government, rescuing an infamous criminal who could herself bring about the destruction of the world, and defeating the WG's top assassin at the time.
It's both surprising and unusual.
Oda's bent the rules so that he could implement his Usopp big bounty gag but without Zoro getting hit by it, that's just how it is.
Zoro beat a Pacifisata in 2 seconds.
Ok, so did Sanji.
Clashed with an Admiral twice without being utterly destroyed in 2 seconds.
Isshou sent him into the ground with absolutely minimal effort.
Without being remotely serious.
He also beat a stone colossus that'd dwarf Orz and his clansmen.
Yeah, he beat a big enemy, that's impressive.
But impressive enough to merit a 200M bounty increase?
Not even close.
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The spiky hair in between Law and Buggy.
To be honest, I actually think it looks a lot like Shiki.
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I wonder whatever happened to that plot of Spandam and Spandine in trying to kill they.
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To be honest, I actually think it looks a lot like Shiki.
http://i998.mangapanda.com/one-piece/801/one-piece-6190105.jpg
[/hide]Dude, what if it is just Buggy's fur coat?