Well, all 3 sound great, now there's just one more test left: Hancock in Mero Mero mode.
Funimation DVD Discussion III (Please Check First Post for FAQ)
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No one else thinks she sounds exactly like Robin?
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No one else thinks she sounds exactly like Robin?
Nope to me she sounds just like Ulteer from Fairy Tail :p
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No, they're both pretty distinguishable from each other. Similar, but not the same at all.
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I could tell their a different tone in voice for Hancock.
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She has a similar type of voice to Robin, but I wouldn't say she sounds the same. Though it would be nice to hear scenes where she is speaking more naturally and not just yelling orders.
Marigold and Sandersonia are also pretty good.
One of the snake sisters is Julie Mayfield using her Dr. Kureha voice. lol
I thought that Mari sounded kind of like her…
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Why does the green snake girl talked like amethyst?
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I know it's weird saying this. But I liked the Choice of voice they done. :3
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Anyone else having trouble with the episodes?
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Yeah, none of them are working. I think the same thing happened last time too.
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yea. It is linking me to the episodes, but the videos themselves don't actually exist. the same problem happened when the voyage 3 trailer came it. it took about an hour before I was actually able to watch the trailer.
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We can watch em now!
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is the episodes airing for anyone else
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yes, the episodes are actually up now.
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The doflamingo scene in episode 398 too much hype. really makes me anticipate his speech during the war even more now
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If I had any doubts as to Ray Hurd's Kizaru, the "hellos" dispelled those doubts completely.
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Wow, I'm really loving all of the voices now that we've gotten to hear them some more. Hawkins is still the MVP. Not gonna lie though, Rayleigh's took some time to grow on me, but I'm pretty happy with it.
I'm about the watch the separation episode. Not sure if I'm ready to hear Colleen's take on Luffy's breakdown. If it's even half as phenomenal as Stephanie Young's reading of "I wanna live" then I'm going to be a blubbering mess.
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Loved all the voices on this voyage favorites had to be rayleigh law bepo hawkins and kizaru and man the separation was done so well props to everyone especially colleen
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Have only watched the first two episodes. Great to see the three captain team up. Really can't wait for the last few episodes in this arc.
Will probably get in more trouble for being disappointed with Joel again, but did anyone else notice that the voice actor / ADR director didn't really match Rayleigh's flaps very well for the first episode on the set?
And to whoever said that some episodes didn't match the lips well on the last set, I had that problem for a few episodes towards the end, too. But it was only sometimes, if I remember correctly. Some weird glitch/mistake by the engineer, probably.
So weird to me that I'm the only one that hears that Hancock and Robin's voices are nearly the same. Guess I need to get my ears checked since I'm out voted here. But my girlfriend says it sounds the same to her, too (though I didn't show her the animation as she listened because spoilers).
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The doflamingo scene in episode 398 too much hype. really makes me anticipate his speech during the war even more now
I was amazed to hear the word "smile." I never knew that was foreshadowed this far back. And totally forgot that DoFlamingo was in this arc. He sounded a little different than he did the last time I hear him, but I like the slight change.
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If I had any doubts as to Ray Hurd's Kizaru, the "hellos" dispelled those doubts completely.
I love his voice, was just worried that he wasn't elongating some syllables like he was supposed to. You're saying he does it? Hallelujah. Perfect casting then.
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I'm sorry to say that the elongated syllables just didn't really exist, except subtly. It looks as if it just isn't easily doable with the lip flaps. The hellos ARE quite notably elongated, though, and done quite hilariously. Especially with Hawkins, which I don't think would have been nearly as funny if not for the previous hellos into the snail. You'll see what I mean when you watch them.
And you aren't alone with the whole Hancock/Robin similarity. She sounds like a more emotional Robin to me. Of course, even in reality people can sound similar like that but I guess it's more noticeable here.
Probably my biggest issue with these episodes is the writing. There were a couple instances that I saw where the line was changed from the subtitled version. Most notably at the beginning of 404 when in the subtitled version Nami says, "he's really going to die!" was changed to, "there's nothing we can do!" This just doesn't have the same impact. The meaning and intensity of the situation just isn't there with the second one. Especially with the visual of Nami putting her hand over her mouth. I can just see no real reason to have changed it.
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I'm sorry to say that the elongated syllables just didn't really exist, except subtly. It looks as if it just isn't easily doable with the lip flaps. The hellos ARE quite notably elongated, though, and done quite hilariously. Especially with Hawkins, which I don't think would have been nearly as funny if not for the previous hellos into the snail. You'll see what I mean when you watch them.
And you aren't alone with the whole Hancock/Robin similarity. She sounds like a more emotional Robin to me. Of course, even in reality people can sound similar like that but I guess it's more noticeable here.
Probably my biggest issue with these episodes is the writing. There were a couple instances that I saw where the line was changed from the subtitled version. Most notably at the beginning of 404 when in the subtitled version Nami says, "he's really going to die!" was changed to, "there's nothing we can do!" This just doesn't have the same impact. The meaning and intensity of the situation just isn't there with the second one. Especially with the visual of Nami putting her hand over her mouth. I can just see no real reason to have changed it.
That's strange; they usually don't mess with things unnecessarily.
Shame about Kizaru, but at least the "hello's" are in tact. I'll go ahead and blame the ADR director for not doing proper research with this one, because if the mouth flap allowed for the Japanese to do it, it should be manageable in English, too.
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That's strange; they usually don't mess with things unnecessarily.
I probably wouldn't have had too much of an issue with it if it didn't change the undertones of the line/scene as much as it did.
Shame about Kizaru, but at least the "hello's" are in tact. I'll go ahead and blame the ADR director for not doing proper research with this one, because if the mouth flap allowed for the Japanese to do it, it should be manageable in English, too.
I thought about that and when the actual DVDs come in and I can switch between the Japanese and English audio with the press of a button, I'm going to take a look and see what's going on with that.
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I felt like I noticed Kizaru's speech quirk generally more in this boxset than Film Z. There were several instances with more drawn out lines and even the less drawn out lines seemed to have the end of lines trail off more towards the end (though more subtly than the original). At least here I got the impression that there was an understanding of the way Kizaru was supposed to speak, even if it wasn't quite at the level of the original.
And really, its not just lip sync that's the problem when dubbing lines; translated dialogue, the way said dialogue is portrayed in the scripts, and the overall timing of the scene (not just the timing of the lip movements) can also play a role in altering a performance.
I thought about that and when the actual DVDs come in and I can switch between the Japanese and English audio with the press of a button, I'm going to take a look and see what's going on with that.
That can be done with the online episodes too. Just push the button on the bottom left side of the video that says "DUB" and it will play at the last spot you were at in the episode, just with the subbed version instead.
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A line that really stood out to me that changed was when nami was about to sent off by Kuma, in the dub she said someone help me but she was supposed to yell Luffy help me
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A line that really stood out to me that changed was when nami was about to sent off by Kuma, in the dub she said someone help me but she was supposed to yell Luffy help me
Oh yeah. I didn't really pay any mind to the line Elan_Morin pointed out, but this one stuck out like a sore thumb.
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A line that really stood out to me that changed was when nami was about to sent off by Kuma, in the dub she said someone help me but she was supposed to yell Luffy help me
Oh, gosh. What a shame they changed this line. So much less impactful.
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This is just like the "I Wanna Live" speech from Robin when originally she said "Take me to the sea with you!" Instead it's "Take me away from this place!" lol
"Wahoo!" —Klonoa
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This is just like the "I Wanna Live" speech from Robin when originally she said "Take me to the sea with you!" Instead it's "Take me away from this place!" lol
This change didn't bother me all that much, outside of the "no real reason" factor. After all, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. And ultimately, the underlying meaning is unchanged. But the "someone/Luffy help me" and the "he's really going to die/there's nothing we can do" is a significant enough change to the underlying meanings of the lines, in my opinion. And that's where I really have the objections.
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This change didn't bother me all that much, outside of the "no real reason" factor. After all, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. And ultimately, the underlying meaning is unchanged. But the "someone/Luffy help me" and the "he's really going to die/there's nothing we can do" is a significant enough change to the underlying meanings of the lines, in my opinion. And that's where I really have the objections.
I wish you can legally sue an anime company. XD
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This change didn't bother me all that much, outside of the "no real reason" factor. After all, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. And ultimately, the underlying meaning is unchanged. But the "someone/Luffy help me" and the "he's really going to die/there's nothing we can do" is a significant enough change to the underlying meanings of the lines, in my opinion. And that's where I really have the objections.
Hmm i actually can see your gripes with the line change although i think for me because the performances in the episode were so great it didnt effect how i viewed the performance that much.
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Watching the new episodes now. I noticed that Kizaru pronounced Basil's name differently than Shakky did. He uses the Japanese pronunciation, where Shakky pronounced it like you would hear the word in English. Still don't like how they're pronouncing Trafalgar, though, nor do I like that they got rid of Law's speech quirk.
I like Rayleigh's voice better in these episodes than in that brief line from the earlier set, and him talking about Roger got to me a lot more than when I saw that scene in Japanese. I don't know that I like Sentomaru's voice, though.
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. Still don't like how they're pronouncing Trafalgar, though, nor do I like that they got rid of Law's speech quirk.
You mean the way he says “–ya” after a character's name? It's not really a speech quirk (or at least not in the same way as something like Hachi's "nyus" or Fukuro's "chapapas").
From the explanations I’ve seen (mainly the one in the manga SBS) it’s a suffix in the Japanese language that’s been used to identify people of certain trades or used for stage names. It certainly is a different way of addressing someone (instead of using standard honorifics), but it’s not really a special speech quirk specific to Law (well, I guess within the context of this series it is specific to him). Removing that is not too different from removing things like “–go” from the end of ship names or removing honorifics like “-chan” or “-san”; sure English equivalents could be used, but it’s not really something applicable to the English language.
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The loss of Law's speech quirk hasn't bothered me at all, surprisingly. Mercer is doing that great a job that I haven't noticed.
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Watching the new episodes now. I noticed that Kizaru pronounced Basil's name differently than Shakky did. He uses the Japanese pronunciation, where Shakky pronounced it like you would hear the word in English.
The "Basil" inconsistency annoyed me. I think Zephray expressed his concerns with Joel's directing a few pages ago, and I would have to agree. Joel doesn't seem to prioritize consistency and perfection the same way Mike did…
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Hawkins' name was said only once in the last set, right? Maybe Mike jumped in after hearing it and told Joel to fix the pronunciation.
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The "Basil" inconsistency annoyed me. I think Zephray expressed his concerns with Joel's directing a few pages ago, and I would have to agree. Joel doesn't seem to prioritize consistency and perfection the same way Mike did…
Hallelujah! Someone else notices it! He doesn't put in the effort and research. Mike really should have come back for this arc and impel down.
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Finally! Back in time for Impel Down and Marineford! Yes! Woo!
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Been away for a while. Are you guys watching new DVDs or the dub uploaded online? Last I got was Season 7 Voyage 1, am I behind?
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Funimation releases dub episodes two weeks early on their elite subscription program. Some of us are watching it on that.
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I had a strong feeling Mike would be back for Impel Down and Marineford. Not only because he's Buggy but because there are so many characters and story elements returning tied to the material he worked on earlier, and he probably wanted to handle the final seasons leading to the timeskip.
I do wonder why he left in the first place. Maybe he had his hands full with Attack on Titan and other shows?
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Whoa, as nice as it is that Mike is getting back into the director's chair (something I've wanted to see for a while), let's not get ahead of ourselves as for when, exactly, he's taking the reigns.
Time for a lesson in archaeological dating methods. This would be what's known as a terminus post quem. We can only know that as of the date of posting, today, August 21st, 2015, that Mike is directing. We don't know precisely what episode he is taking over at. Could be before, could be after. Marineford is a near certainty. (Hell, Funimation could easily, and likely does, have Marineford licensed. After all, they had Enies Lobby licensed at least a year before the first release.) Impel Down is less so. At this point, given that the release date for the set immediately preceding the first Impel Down episodes is due to be released in a mere two months time, they almost certainly have the earlier episodes already recorded.
Don't get me wrong, I could easily be wrong and Mike is indeed picking up as of Voyage Four. Certainly, I hope so. (And if he does, I really, really hope that in addition to viewing the japanese audio as seems to have become standard, that for returning characters, they review prior English recordings, too. As with Cobra in the Boss Luffy episodes during Enies Lobby, Igaram was much different during 406-407 than from his Alabasta days. So much so I had to check and see if it was the same person. Again, it comes back to consistency for me.)
Basically what I'm saying here is don't get hopes too high if it isn't the case that Mike is starting with the first Impel Down episode.
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(And if he does, I really, really hope that in addition to viewing the japanese audio as seems to have become standard, that for returning characters, they review prior English recordings, too. As with Cobra in the Boss Luffy episodes during Enies Lobby, Igaram was much different during 406-407 than from his Alabasta days. So much so I had to check and see if it was the same person. Again, it comes back to consistency for me.)
I actually thought Mr. 3 sounded kind of off during the Enies Lobby Boss Luffy episodes too (and I think there was another character too, but I can't remember right now).
Though, during Impel Down, there are several flashbacks to prior episodes (unlike the Boss Luffy episodes). While several lines might be altered, since the flashbacks were reanimated, they'd still probably have to revisit those episodes anyway so I'd assume it would be less of a problem during this arc.
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This change didn't bother me all that much, outside of the "no real reason" factor. After all, if it isn't broke, don't fix it. And ultimately, the underlying meaning is unchanged. But the "someone/Luffy help me" and the "he's really going to die/there's nothing we can do" is a significant enough change to the underlying meanings of the lines, in my opinion. And that's where I really have the objections.
At the end of the day,, it could just come down to the lines not working with the lip flaps. That's always a problem when it comes to dubbing.
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At the end of the day,, it could just come down to the lines not working with the lip flaps. That's always a problem when it comes to dubbing.
"Luffy help me" shouldn't take more mouth movements than "Someone help me".
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"Luffy help me" shouldn't take more mouth movements than "Someone help me".
Indeed. There is no difference in syllable count. So there is no real reason to change it for flap reasons. Same for the line I pointed out. Even worse there, actually, because there was no lip flaps to match; Nami had her mouth covered.
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Though this sounds more like the writers fault than Joel's. Wonder if mike would have caught it.
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^^^Well, Mike has been credited as a script writer sporadically since season 4, even going into this season (though not on the episodes these lines we are referencing are from)…
But its hard for me to imagine any ADR director would catch every change made by the script writers (and I know I've heard some questionable line changes in the past), especially since not all differences in dialogue are too big of a deal.
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^^^Well, Mike has been credited as a script writer sporadically since season 4, even going into this season (though not on the episodes these lines we are referencing are from)…
But its hard for me to imagine any ADR director would catch every change made by the script writers (and I know I've heard some questionable line changes in the past), especially since not all differences in dialogue are too big of a deal.
Yeah, so no blaming Joel for this one, but part of me does wonder if a really attentive director pays attention to the line differences at least during the very emotional scenes. All in all, not a huge deal– only one line of dialogue, but still annoying since it affects the emotional gravity of an important scene.
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Seriously…..Hancock....this kind of voice......
Okay i have not seen the anime in japanese, but i've played pirate warriors 1 and 2.
The japanese voice i just like whuuuuuuuuut?!?!?!?!?????
every time she says something in that high pitched voice i'm like wtf and laugh like hell.
Just amazing that voice.
But this???? like really????
Funimation you are kidding in this trailer right?
Yeah hahah you are.
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Still have yet to see or hear it.
