Well, 794 certainly has introduced some new theories. Followed by a break, and pretty much no chance of actually finding out for a long time anyway…
Only one way to settle this... with a poll!
Options are:
Crow (something crow-related, as people began to think by seeing Sabo on the crows)
Tengu (an idea introduced by a forum member pointing out a Wikipedia article linking Tengu to birds and wind)
Wind (boosted by the mentions/sightings of wind and seeing him with steam or something coming off him after saving Sabo)
Weather/Storm/Hurricane/etc (anything other than Wind, basically-- which might more directly account for the lightning bolt that saved Luffy-- this would probably be a Paramecia, unlike Wind which would be Logia)
Other (something not closely related to one of the above)
Fire when ready!
What fruit does Monkey D. Dragon have?
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Dragon zoan is pollpular too.
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Dragon zoan is pollpular too.
Alas, it is. (Even though there's no basis for people thinking this other than his name, that I know of)
I suppose Other will have to suffice for that as well, since I can't change it now. -
Voted crow!
Psycrow ftw
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Voted crow!
Psycrow ftw
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I repeat what I said in the chapter thread as well.
About Dragon…
What if he had a Tengu Tengu No Mi?
From Wikipedia:[Tengu] are a type of legendary creature found in Japanese folk religion and […] were originally thought to take the forms of birds of prey.
Tengu are commonly depicted holding magical ha-uchiwa, fans made of feathers. In folk tales, these fans sometimes have the ability to grow or shrink a person's nose, but usually they are attributed the power to stir up great winds.In this chapter we do kinds see Dragon in the act of landing after flying, and we know he can create or manipulate winds. And some people do think he is linked somehow, ideologically or materially (either because being a Tengu-man he likes to have bird friends, or because he somehow summoned them through his DF), to the crows Sabo rides at the end of the chapter.
I mean, almost all revolutionaries have animal hats and other beasty-inspired clothes. It would fit if Dragon had a (kinda) animal-inspired fruit.
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Wind without a doubt. Fits the whole revo theme and even more now with Sabo being fire
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Alas, it is. (Even though there's no basis for people thinking this other than his name, that I know of)
I suppose Other will have to suffice for that as well, since I can't change it now.Mythical Dragon Zoan, dragons in Chinese and partly Japanese mythology can control the weather
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The crow-related ability seems more likely as one of his subordinates. It seems inconvenient to have Dragon be the facilitator of all messages between troops, though on the other hand it would probably improve secrecy.
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I'm the only one on the crow hype train. Who will join?
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Weather paramecia, simple as that. I think they would just call him Wind Man if he was one, not weather man. And I'm not into : complicated creature from japan's legends and stuff like that. Oda doesn't tend to complicate fruits, he only makes a fruit stronger then it should be.
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Well that settles it. Dragon is an eastbird. That's why he's always leaning east.
Eastbirds are of course total buddies with crows, and can easily book a crow taxi.
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I'd guess wind. Wouldn't be surprised if it was weather though.
Crow counts for wind cuz a crow can be one with the wind as well~
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Weather, or Wind…it depends on Oda.
An wind user could control weather using various winds with different temperatures clash.The Crows, I guess it's another members of the Revo Army.
I expect the Revo Army to have at least other 4-5 members we have not seen yet. -
Well that settles it. Dragon is an eastbird. That's why he's always leaning east.
Eastbirds are of course total buddies with crows, and can easily book a crow taxi.
This would be the most awesome stuff ever… Dragon the Eastbird Zoan
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i think it's evident that the crows are dragon's doing, but also its obvious that he has a wind or weather related power and he can even fly. So tengu looks likely!
why cant i vote????
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I'm the only one on the crow hype train. Who will join?
i voted for the crow crow fruit let the crow hype begin
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i think it's evident that the crows are dragon's doing, but also its obvious that he has a wind or weather related power and he can even fly. So tengu looks likely!
why cant i vote????
Odd… it should let you vote unless in the upper right of the results you see it say "You have already voted on this poll"
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Odd… it should let you vote unless in the upper right of the results you see it say "You have already voted on this poll"
Voters30. You may not vote on this poll
I read in the faq that its cause im new in the forums… actually i have been around for years but just recently made an account
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it's not wind because we already have the air logia..even though,since we also had ice and snow,maybe oda is just cheating
the crows are probably sued by another member of the revolutionary army..don't really see dragon going in person to dressrosa just to get sabo,same thing for the tengu one,those crows are not dragon's doingweather still seems the most plausible since the weather changes everytime he is near
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Mythical Dragon Zoan, dragons in Chinese and partly Japanese mythology can control the weather
I doubt it'll be the case here. I mean Marco is a Phoenix but his blue flames don't extend beyond being a means of healing him, and can't be used for fire based attacks ( which is a great shame imo)
A mythical class dragon zoan, or a wind logia or a paramecia that grants him ability to control the weather…
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it's not wind because we already have the air logia..even though,since we also had ice and snow,maybe oda is just cheating
the crows are probably sued by another member of the revolutionary army..don't really see dragon going in person to dressrosa just to get sabo,same thing for the tengu one,those crows are not dragon's doingweather still seems the most plausible since the weather changes everytime he is near
We don't have an air logia. Caesar is a gas logia, 2 different things..
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We don't have an air logia. Caesar is a gas logia, 2 different things..
news flash..air IS ,in fact,a gas..actually a mixture of several gasses
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news flash..air IS ,in fact,a gas..actually a misture of several gasses
I am aware of that, but he doesn't control the wind…which is a weather effect, so we're prolly gonna see someone with it eventually....
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Although I feel a little bad that the dragon fruit idea will have to be voted on through "Other" simply because I can't change the poll, I thought of another possible reason why it may not be likely for Dragon to have a dragon fruit (besides the fact that we haven't seen him do anything that would specifically indicate it).
First think of Momonosuke, who ran up in the sky on clouds. Momonosuke used that power subconsciously, as a young kid who didn't understand his power and didn't even use it as an attack… a grown up version of that sounds like it might be a much bigger, more powerful dragon who could do all the things we associate Dragon doing with his fruit-- i.e. creating the storm that saved Luffy's life, moving like the wind or creating wind-- basically a storm dragon or sky dragon. Momonosuke = baby version, Dragon = adult badass version. Sounds cool, and indeed, Momonosuke's powers came from an artificial fruit-- but to create that, the real thing would've probably been needed as a basis, right? Well, that's not very likely under the assumption that Dragon has had the real thing the whole time (i.e. clearing a path for people out of the fire, saving Sabo and staying above the water somehow to do it, or facing towards East Blue and the wind seeming to blow there). In other words, Momonosuke is a possible "baby" version of the dragon that some people think Monkey D. Dragon might be, making it less likely that Dragon has been that same dragon all this time.
One could also point out that his ship has an actual, somewhat similar-looking (yet common) dragon decal on it, but then you could point to the fact that a lot of Sabo's moves have the word "dragon" in them even without Sabo having a dragon fruit, making it seem that they just really like theming superficial things like names and decorations after Dragon's name. -
I am aware of that, but he doesn't control the wind…which is a weather effect, so we're prolly gonna see someone with it eventually....
just because he doesn't creates tornadoes doesn't mean he doesn't control air..one of his moves is to suck all the oxygen present in a given area..so he can move the gasses present in the air…making a tornado means just moving all thiose gasses fast and together..something that he should totally able to do from what we have seen..
he just uses his fruit differently,being a scientist and allof course,since oda actually made snow and ice to different logias,he might be able to create the gas-gas and the air-air..but that doesn't mean that caesar is not the air logia,because he is..actually he is even more than that.
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just because he doesn't creates tornadoes doesn't mean he doesn't control air..one of his moves is to suck all the oxygen present in a given area..so he can move the gasses present in the air…making a tornado means just moving all thiose gasses fast and together..something that he should totally able to do from what we have seen..
he just uses his fruit differently,being a scientist and allof course,since oda actually made snow and ice to different logias,he might be able to create the gas-gas and the air-air..but that doesn't mean that caesar is not the air logia,because he is..actually he is even more than that.
we're bound to see more weather based logia's at some point. We've had lightning, we just got snow….and now we need wind......which could ver a top tier logia and really really powerful....
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Weather is a stupid idea. do u guys know that weather is not a thing? weather is a word to describe the bad storm in your area, or the good sunny day.
Crow DF is a new trend, don't take it seriously cuz it's gonna fade away.
Tengu DF .. one piece never introduced something like that ( no, marco fruit is different ) this Tengu must be specific to one culture, probably china or japan.
Wind DF .. i can't see why not, i just can't.
but i think it's something different , that's always the story with Oda, he always surprise you.
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I voted Tengu for something different. I guess, We'll see in the long run of what Dragon's devil fruit is . I'm pretty content with just seeing the Dragon has a devil fruit wild mass guessing is indeed true .
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Well, 794 certainly has introduced some new theories. Followed by a break, and pretty much no chance of actually finding out for a long time anyway…
Only one way to settle this... with a poll!
Options are:
Crow (something crow-related, as people began to think by seeing Sabo on the crows)
Tengu (an idea introduced by a forum member pointing out a Wikipedia article linking Tengu to birds and wind)
Wind (boosted by the mentions/sightings of wind and seeing him with steam or something coming off him after saving Sabo)
Weather/Storm/Hurricane/etc (anything other than Wind, basically-- which might more directly account for the lightning bolt that saved Luffy-- this would probably be a Paramecia, unlike Wind which would be Logia)
Other (something not closely related to one of the above)I doubt it has anything to do with the birds since Sabo would have already understood how Dragon's fruit works, unless he just awakened it or something. Most likely the birds belong to a newer member (or Moriah dissappeared at end of WB War because he was teleported by Kuma to revolutionaries?)
Dragon's fruit is most likely related to weather, storms, wind, etc. If it is a DF and not uranus that is -
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Weather is a stupid idea. do u guys know that weather is not a thing? weather is a word to describe the bad storm in your area, or the good sunny day.
Crow DF is a new trend, don't take it seriously cuz it's gonna fade away.
Tengu DF .. one piece never introduced something like that ( no, marco fruit is different ) this Tengu must be specific to one culture, probably china or japan.
Wind DF .. i can't see why not, i just can't.
but i think it's something different , that's always the story with Oda, he always surprise you.
Yeah but then some surprises will come off as stupid coincidences such as when Luffy is saved by a lightning strike at Loguetown. I would be pretty dissappointed if that was just a coincidence placed by the Destiny of the new age or some bullshit. I'd be more tolerant to idea Dragon watching and saving him using DF which allows him to control the phenomena of the sky (I know you don't like the term "weather")
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I don't want to be the one to burst the bubble but, the Crow + Tengu theory is based on what ? Those crows helping Sabo in the end of chapter 794 ? No offense, but I think this is little information to jump to this new theory.
For me, Sabo use haki to "tame" those crows.
But answering the question, I still believes that Dragon has no DF, but if I have to make a choice, I would go with the classic "Wind DF".
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it's not wind because we already have the air logia..even though,since we also had ice and snow,maybe oda is just cheating
the crows are probably sued by another member of the revolutionary army..don't really see dragon going in person to dressrosa just to get sabo,same thing for the tengu one,those crows are not dragon's doingweather still seems the most plausible since the weather changes everytime he is near
Wind can be treated differently from air.
Caesar's fruit is already similar to Smoker's anyway.
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I doubt it has anything to do with the birds since Sabo would have already understood how Dragon's fruit works, unless he just awakened it or something. Most likely the birds belong to a newer member (or Moriah dissappeared at end of WB War because he was teleported by Kuma to revolutionaries?)
Dragon's fruit is most likely related to weather, storms, wind, etc. If it is a DF and not uranus that isThe crows already existed 2 years ago.
That was a translation mistake. According to Aohige, Sabo asked the crows if they were ready to sail.
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we're bound to see more weather based logia's at some point. We've had lightning, we just got snow….and now we need wind......which could ver a top tier logia and really really powerful....
wind logia will never occur. First of all that fruit does nothing for Dragon when compared to other top tier logias, ofc he could have improved a lot with it to make it better despite the fact that it seems weak (like Luffy). Still, it is slower than light and lightning, weaker with attacking seeing as wind is just inherently softer than anything else in the series so far.
second of all, I believe a wind fruit could be too overpowered wspecially when held by Dragon. Wind could at the same time be expected to completely take over any battle field. Logias move their elements through the wind and obviously produce wind as well, dragon would be in control of everything going on and could slow their movements, give them damage from range without even trying, have wind push away oxygen from combatants so they can't breathe… The point I'm getting at is that it will end up being really convoluted and stupid if a wind df exists.
Although despite the fact that I am completely opposed to it, you might be rightBut it seems legendary zoan or paramecia or Uranus being his power are safer for me to assume since they aren't that stupid of ideas...
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The crows already existed 2 years ago.
That was a translation mistake. According to Aohige, Sabo asked the crows if they were ready to sail.
Oh ok, sorry forgot about difference in translation between aohige and ms (read aohige last night right before bed). But still, Moriah was teleported at the same time so if I'm right then Moriah would have been there as well :)
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wind logia will never occur. First of all that fruit does nothing for Dragon when compared to other top tier logias, ofc he could have improved a lot with it to make it better despite the fact that it seems weak (like Luffy). Still, it is slower than light and lightning, weaker with attacking seeing as wind is just inherently softer than anything else in the series so far.
second of all, I believe a wind fruit could be too overpowered wspecially when held by Dragon. Wind could at the same time be expected to completely take over any battle field. Logias move their elements through the wind and obviously produce wind as well, dragon would be in control of everything going on and could slow their movements, give them damage from range without even trying, have wind push away oxygen from combatants so they can't breathe… The point I'm getting at is that it will end up being really convoluted and stupid if a wind df exists.
Although despite the fact that I am completely opposed to it, you might be rightBut it seems legendary zoan or paramecia or Uranus being his power are safer for me to assume since they aren't that stupid of ideas...
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Oh ok, sorry forgot about difference in translation between aohige and ms (read aohige last night right before bed). But still, Moriah was teleported at the same time so if I'm right then Moriah would have been there as well :)
Same could be said for light, darkness, gravity, flower, Sugars fruit etc etc. There's a ton of devil fruit powers that could be overpowered as hell if you think about it.
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Same could be said for light, darkness, gravity, flower, Sugars fruit etc etc. There's a ton of devil fruit powers that could be overpowered as hell if you think about it.
Yeah but I kinda want an end to that… I miss when DFs were simpler... My argument is more an argmuent of me denying the evolution of DFs in this series if anything, don't expect to read anything worthwhile
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Been thinking, these two images show Dragon pretty clearly creating a gust of wind in a very particular path, lending credibility to a straight-up Wind fruit (over weather).
If it were a Tengu fruit– according to the theory, it involves both wind and birds, and would explain the talking crow; but Dragon doesn't seem to transform in any way when doing the wind blast, and a varied fruit like a Tengu fruit that seems a little hard to believe that it could be so specifically powerful in a way that doesn't directly relate to the transformation itself anyway.
As for the lightning bolt... before it struck, in the same chapter, we saw this image--Nami talks about the air pressure, clouds, etc moving… I think that that is more likely a result of Dragon messing with the air (wind logia fruit) than the first two images being direct blasts from a Weather or Storm (paramecia) fruit, because weather is usually something you think of on such a large scale as opposed to a tunnel-like blast.
In short: The votes for Wind over anything else are probably accurate, and the most likely thing in my opinion.
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Yeah but I kinda want an end to that… I miss when DFs were simpler... My argument is more an argmuent of me denying the evolution of DFs in this series if anything, don't expect to read anything worthwhile
Yeah true that. Now we have devil fruit awakening too :/
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Been thinking, these two images show Dragon pretty clearly creating a gust of wind in a very particular path, lending credibility to a straight-up Wind fruit (over weather).
If it were a Tengu fruit– according to the theory, it involves both wind and birds, and would explain the talking crow; but Dragon doesn't seem to transform in any way when doing the wind blast, and a varied fruit like a Tengu fruit that seems a little hard to believe that it could be so specifically powerful in a way that doesn't directly relate to the transformation itself anyway.
As for the lightning bolt... before it struck, in the same chapter, we saw this image--[qimg]http://i13.mangacdn.com/one-piece/99/one-piece-2422107.jpg[/qimg]
Nami talks about the air pressure, clouds, etc moving… I think that that is more likely a result of Dragon messing with the air (wind logia fruit) than the first two images being direct blasts from a Weather or Storm (paramecia) fruit, because weather is usually something you think of on such a large scale as opposed to a tunnel-like blast.
In short: The votes for Wind over anything else are probably accurate, and the most likely thing in my opinion.
Well allow me to add more plausibility to the tengu transformation, he is almost completely concealed, it's highly possible that he is half creature under that cloak. That is all.
I mean he is the only character in the series who dresses like that I feel like… He is obviously hiding something. Maybe keeping a mystery about his powers is one of the huge reasons that his bounty is so high. The results brought about by completely mysterious cicumstances leading WG to keep raising bounty despite knowing about as much about his powers as we do!
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His first name is Monkey, his last name is Dragon and he has likely Crow powers. That seems to be right.
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Are we really discussing the difference between a gas and a wind logia?
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If you think about ii if Dragon has a wind fruit he could cause almost every type of weather including lightning bolts. Almost every storm is in someway caused by wind so he could obviously cause tornadoes, hurricanes, hail storms, and lightning bolts with just his wind fruit. Not to mention large gusts of wind and being able to fly.
While i would love to think that the crows were his doing i highly doubt that they were his.
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Yeah true that. Now we have devil fruit awakening too :/
Oh I meant read anything worthwhile posted by ME. Oda could start writing about sex dolls and it would still be worthwhile, the man is a genius
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I don't know what he has, but look at these pages.
http://img.mangastream.to/manga/one-piece/589/07.png [](http:// http://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/51/2860/05.png) http://img.mangastream.com/cdn/manga/51/2860/05.png
Isshin Dojo isn't at Dawn Island and Dragon travelled there pretty much instantly as you can see from his cape still being on fire.
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It could be any fruit of the ones mentioned and Oda could make it have all the powers of all of these fruits. Even if it was the zoan crow.
After the string fruit and Viola's fruits and Law's fruit I don't think I could ever think of a realistic limit to any sort of fruit Oda will introduce. If Oda wants a fruit to do the thing, it will do the thing
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So if a logia is awakened does that mean he can control his entire element in the same way that he controls his body? Like Croc controlling an entire desert like he was using an overcharged green lantern ring.
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So if a logia is awakened does that mean he can control his entire element in the same way that he controls his body? Like Croc controlling an entire desert like he was using an overcharged green lantern ring.
Seems like it so far, making him quite a bit scarier than this guy…
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So if a logia is awakened does that mean he can control his entire element in the same way that he controls his body? Like Croc controlling an entire desert like he was using an overcharged green lantern ring.
Yup I think so… But well what about Ace changing clima at Drum... I doubt he was awakened
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His first name is Monkey, his last name is Dragon and he has likely Crow powers. That seems to be right.
The monkey as the family name is something related to their looks and combat style, for luffy is more then clear, even g4 looks like a gorilla, Garp also looks like a gorilla and goes along with his fists style. I expect Dragon to also looks like a monkey/gorilla something in combat. And since Sabo knows 'dragon claw', Dragon himself could be the teaher of that combat style.
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Yup I think so… But well what about Ace changing clima at Drum... I doubt he was awakened
I do recall earier in the series that Croco and Smoker made a big deal about being trained enough in their logias to instantly defend against physical attacks. Ace could do that as well, maybe that is a sign of their logias being awakened? Pretty sure Caribou wasn't trained as well. Then Akainu should be able to use underwater volcanoes as an attack method with awakened magma fruit lol (this will most likely happen at some point)
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disclaimer: I've seen this theory before, but with birds now it starts to make sense. Something about Vermilion Bird of Chinese Constellations. Similarities: bird is of east, dragon looks to east. Bird is legendary, legendary zoan is strong and could be stretched to control weather phenomena and other smaller birds. Would explain dragons abolity to move aroujd so fast and explains how dragon was probably flying when he grabbed sabo out of water. Vermilion is same color as tattoos on Dragon's face, case closed. Basically a better version of Marco
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_Bird