The chapter's title should be "Sabo is pissed".
Chapter 792: Kneeling Down
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Why wouldn't Sabo wreck Burgess?Burgess was fodder to Ace pre skip,this outcome is only logical unless you think that Burgess has an even better growth rate that guys with great potential or that Marco wouldn't murk his fat ass.
Good chapter btw.Next one should be even better.
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You are just assuming that Burgess is one of the strongest in BB's crew simply because he is commander of 1st division. But there is no hint whatsoever that the commander of the 1st division is the strongest in BB's crew. Maybe he gave him this position because he trust him more? Maybe it was because Burgess was the first one to join BB? Maybe the number of the commmander in BB's crew are reversed like the 10th commander is the strongest, then followed by the 9th (which makes Burgess the weakest one lmao)? Maybe the numbers don't have any signification whatsoever?
So Burgess fanboys or (in this case) Sabo haters calm down.
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The BB pirates are probably the end villains. What i thought when i heard that bb was a yonko was "wow the BB pirates are on another whole level. The strawhats are going to have to go through countless dangers to overcome them. "
Now im thinking a bit more like"meh burgess is on sanjis level i guess"
I think the BB pirates will have to improve themselves too and get stronger with time similar to the strawhats.Time will remember us.
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@jabso:
The BB pirates are probably the end villains. What i thought when i heard that bb was a yonko was "wow the BB pirates are on another whole level. The strawhats are going to have to go through countless dangers to overcome them. "
Now im thinking a bit more like"meh burgess is on sanjis level i guess"
I think the BB pirates will have to improve themselves too and get stronger with time similar to the strawhats.It's also possible that BB crew will be the final pirates villains but the WG and certain marines will be final people the SH fight with there allies .
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The BB pirates are hunting powerful devil fruits to get stronger. Burgess will get there, with the likes of Marco later in the series.
A lot of people started thinking that he's around the same level as other yonko first division commanders, just because he shares the same title/rank.Hopefully the SH's ends up leaving Dressrosa in the next chapter or two. Dressrosa's not really a good place to party, well maybe Green Bit.
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Yeah come to tthink of it i think the gorosei will be the final obstacle. But they are chilling up at mariejois lol
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Hey Law, Doflamingo is down. What are you gonna do now?
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If you want you can compare Revolutionary army minions to the CP, your argument would be considerably more convincing.
Which i did when i mentioned lucci.
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I really don't think Mr. Fleet Admiral will be upset at Fuji. He'll probably be more upset at the WG for knowingly letting a shichibukai do what he wants with an entire country they were supposed to be protecting, and that he won't be able to do anything about it because they are his boss. If anything, I'd imagine that he would secretly commend Issho for doing this because it really fucks with whatever the gorosei are up to.
Of course that is all conjecture but it would be fun to see Sakazuki struggling with his position.
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Translation was beyond ass. It really made enjoying the chapter difficult.
Not uber happy with Burgess' treatment, but there's the fact the BB's are fruit hunting which makes him getting a huge power boost possible, and even expected. He didn't look that much weaker than Sabo before he got the fire fruit. True, they only clashed once, but the fact Sabo basically spent their first fight evading and then he sank the ring so he didn't have to fight him makes me think they were about equal, more or less. Of course, once a fruit as powerful as the fire fruit is added, the difference in strength grows by a huge margin. Giving Burgess an equally powerful fruit could even the playing field, and since that's exactly what this pirate crew is doing, hunting fruits to grow more powerful, I still have some hope for them as end villains.
Fujitora's actions were as expected, doesn't make them more or less risky, so to speak. As in, had Luffy lost, his plans would've gone down the drain and the whole country would've died. I'm talking about the moment he decided to stop the birdcage; at that moment, he couldn't just search for Doffy and kill him in 5 seconds before the birdcage trounced every single living being. And his bet did cause major suffering to the Dressrosans, but I guess that was all part of the plan, and the reason he's so earnestly apologizing.
It wasn't bad, but I was expecting other things. Like Law going after the fallen Doflamingo before the marines got to him, and some kind of emotional monologue there.
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Which i did when i mentioned lucci.
Lucci isn't second third fourth fifth, or even a hundredth in command. He's nothing right now anyway.
Year of Sanji, let's go!
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I'm just… this chapter really made me speechless and made me question my life choices of reading this comic for the last 10 years and investing so much of my time and money and emotion into it.
I can't even get mad at Burgess for being SO pathetic and overall a terrible character or at Sabo for being the case of his misfortunes, I just feel sad and somewhat disgusted in general.
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this chapter redeemed fujitora i like him again
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@Al!naJames:
I'm just… this chapter really made me speechless and made me question my life choices of reading this comic for the last 10 years and investing so much of my time and money and emotion into it.
I can't even get mad at Burgess for being SO pathetic and overall a terrible character or at Sabo for being the case of his misfortunes, I just feel sad and somewhat disgusted in general.
I hope you have a life outside Of One Piece? Didn't know Burgess was your savior, he shares the same birthday as Jesus but damn that reaction to this chapter makes me question whether I should be on a forum like this. I hope you don't hurt yourself from this epiphany of yours?
Year of Sanji, let's go!
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There captain was trounced 2 years ago from a half dead WB.
One of the strongest fighters ever trounced him after he got way too cocky.
All this means is Sabo is one of the stronger guys in the manga .
It means that Sabo is on a completely different level from one of the top subordinates of a Yonko class crew.
This shouldn't really be the case.
If Akainu did the same thing would also be saying that ?
No, because Sakazuki is one of the strongest fighters in the world, reflected by his status as fleet admiral.
The guy went toe to toe with Whitebeard, killed Ace and tanked several other commanders shortly afterward.
There's a big difference between Sakazuki and Sabo.
They might be the final villains but they always going to be stronger guys in certain groups .
EDIT plus it's also easy for Oda to power him up later on by giving him a DF .Devil fruits are far from the powerup that they once were.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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Haha, I like Koala x Sabo so much.
Am I the only who thinks something looks a bit off with Doflamingo on this panel?
"In mad world, only the mad are sane."
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Mihawk dominates everything, he hardly shows any emotion, he's actually rather dull come to think of it yet he's managed to make it all the way on to your profile pic. Hmm.. Maybe if Sabo was labeled as number 1 metal pipe user… :ninja:
Lol, took me a bit to realize what you're talking about.. I've had it since I registered and don't care enough to change it.
Basically there aren't a lot of One Piece characters that I actively dislike, probably just Pearl, but Sabo just seems like Ace 2.0 to me. -
Lucci isn't second third fourth fifth, or even a hundredth in command. He's nothing right now anyway.
What does it matter if he.is the 1000th in command. His strength suffice for his job. I mean stealth strategy amd sabotage are the main skills you need when working in the cp or the revolutionaries right? What does n admiral level strength means in such an organization. Someone with that strength is likely to be pretty famous which makes it harder for.him to operate….
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@Al!naJames:
I'm just… this chapter really made me speechless and made me question my life choices of reading this comic for the last 10 years and investing so much of my time and money and emotion into it.
I can't even get mad at Burgess for being SO pathetic and overall a terrible character or at Sabo for being the case of his misfortunes, I just feel sad and somewhat disgusted in general.
How can a human being be so butthurt about the treatment of a tertiary character like Burgess?
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Translation was beyond ass. It really made enjoying the chapter difficult.
Not uber happy with Burgess' treatment, but there's the fact the BB's are fruit hunting which makes him getting a huge power boost possible, and even expected. He didn't look that much weaker than Sabo before he got the fire fruit. True, they only clashed once, but the fact Sabo basically spent their first fight evading and then he sank the ring so he didn't have to fight him makes me think they were about equal, more or less. Of course, once a fruit as powerful as the fire fruit is added, the difference in strength grows by a huge margin. Giving Burgess an equally powerful fruit could even the playing field
It wouldn't help Burgess even if he had Enel's powers because of the difference in their haki and even agility/reaction times. But I agree it would make him stronger just not strong enough so yeah maybe he'll take this loss as motivation to come back stronger. That is, if his will hasn't been utterly decimated, Sabo is like Luffy in a sense in how he leaves his enemies with their hopes and dreams crushed, and for pirates that's worse than death (true pirates of course).
Year of Sanji, let's go!
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So Burgess is a giant asshole.
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There's a big difference between Sakazuki and Sabo.
There should be a difference. But with what we saw from sabo it's not clear if the gap is really that big. I mean Burgess got fried and it shouldn't have been the case so…. what do we know?
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They were doing fine until Doula Mongo.
Can people stop trying to be special snowflakes and just call Doflamingo like his name is officially translated as? And please don't link me some incredibly old translated chapter where he is called Lofulamongo or Dofula mongo. His name translation is officially translated as Doflamingo.
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Can people stop trying to be special snowflakes and just call Doflamingo like his name is officially translated as? And please don't link me some incredibly old translated chapter where he is called Lofulamongo or Dofula mongo. His name translation is officially translated as Doflamingo.
You have no sense of hunour my friend binami dachshund.
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How can a human being be so butthurt about the treatment of a tertiary character like Burgess?
You should stop reading One Piece, this isn't good for your mental healthYeah, I came to vent here just so I could get fantastic sarcastic remarks on how I feel. Good job, thanks for helping me out!
One of the reasons I've been a huge fan of Blackbeard Pirates for all these years was the potential they had to become final villains. But all they ever do onscreen is fail, fail and fail again and usually it's after a very bright and loud intro that gets you all excited. Instead of being complex bad guys they just act like total shitbags. It was obvious from the start that Burgess would never accomplish his goals in this arc, but did he really need to be trashed so bad? What was that horrible low-blow knife move done like 2-3 times in a row? It has to be a joke.
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What does it matter if he.is the 1000th in command. His strength suffice for his job. I mean stealth strategy amd sabotage are the main skills you need when working in the cp or the revolutionaries right? What does n admiral level strength means in such an organization. Someone with that strength is likely to be pretty famous which makes it harder for.him to operate….
No his strenght didn't suffice for the job if it did he wouldn't have lost to Luffy and subsequently wouldn't be chased by the same organisation that once relied on his "expertise"
Stealth and strategy? How Kuma, as big as he is, managed to sneak around during his years in the Revo army I will never know. Oh and I guess his strenght is completely unnecessary too?
And why does it matter what rank he is in his organisation? The higher up the ladder you are the stronger you should be, logically. Why do you think so many on this forum are left with a bad taste in their mouths seeing "1st Captain Burgess" be fodderized? It's because they too followed that rank should mean more power. But comparing a single Yonkou's crew to a massive organisation that has several countries backing them is hardly comparable. It's like comparing Blackbeard pirates to all of the marines. It's pretty obvious who'd come out as victors.
Year of Sanji, let's go!
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It wouldn't help Burgess even if he had Enel's powers because of the difference in their haki and even agility/reaction times. But I agree it would make him stronger just not strong enough so yeah maybe he'll take this loss as motivation to come back stronger. That is, if his will hasn't been utterly decimated, Sabo is like Luffy in a sense in how he leaves his enemies with their hopes and dreams crushed, and for pirates that's worse than death (true pirates of course).
Give Burgess Sugar's df and Sabo's screwed.
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So Burgess is a giant asshole.
Meanwhile, water is still wet…He will soon learn to walk on water, Kuma will hand him his copy of the Bible upon witnessing this miracle.
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Dang, people got really salty about Burgess getting wrecked. Sure am glad I never cared that much about him. Great chapter in general though, I'm even more excited now to see how everyone responds, especially the WG.
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It means that Sabo is on a completely different level from one of the top subordinates of a Yonko class crew.
This shouldn't really be the case.
Why should that not be the case ?
Because he might be one of the last pirate villains ?
WB had one of the strongest pirate crew in the world and Don still made fun of 10th commander.
Being part of group don't make you stronger or don't mean you can't get wreck from other charcters in other groups .No, because Sakazuki is one of the strongest fighters in the world, reflected by his status as fleet admiral.
The guy went toe to toe with Whitebeard, killed Ace and tanked several other commanders shortly afterward.
There's a big difference between Sakazuki and Sabo.
No the difference is we have seen how strong the admirals \certain characters are thanks to what they did and info from the manga.
We did not have that much info on the revs or there fighting force or even seen them much .
Now we are seeing how strong there second in command isDevil fruits are far from the powerup that they once were.
There are still power up and can be used to make a character stronger .
It just depends on how oda does it .
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Give Burgess Sugar's df and Sabo's screwed.
I wouldn't put it beyond Sabo defeating Sugar even as a toy unless she successfully issues her orders then yeah he's screwed. A DF that turns people into toys, stops their ageing (effectively granting them immortality) And erasing people's memories of them. Yeah if there's any fruit that can defeat Sabo on Dressrosa it's hers lol. But with Mera Mera he actually has ranged attacks so she'd have to surprise attack him.
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It means that Sabo is on a completely different level from one of the top subordinates of a Yonko class crew.
This shouldn't really be the case.
Yes it should not be this way, but it is. Sabo is likely to surpass Dragon and be in the same league as pirate king luffy.
So he is on the same rank with Burgess only for now, Burgess will never get in that position. Sabo is about as strong as Ace would be after 2 years( since it was hinted that Sabo was almost equal to ace ever since kids), so based on what we saw from pre ts burgess with ace, Oda keeps the difference there.
A good example is Sanji and Luffy. You saw how Sanji had no chance with Doflamingo? Luffy defeated Doflamingo, but he is part of the same monster trio as Sanji.
The leaders or future leaders( in Sabo's case) of the best crews or organization( wg, revolutinaries) will look better then the subordinates.
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Damn, I knew Sabo would, at the very least, come out on top in their encounter, but I didn't think he would outright annihilate Burgess. What bothers me most about Burgess' complete defeat by Sabo is the fact it solidified Burgess' role in Dressrosa: instead of being something relatively important and adding to the plot, Burgess was ultimately in this arc for one, stupid reason: to hype Sabo. Yes, Burgess' entire role in this arc was to make the golden boy shine brighter. I mean seriously, what other purpose did he serve other than to act as a medium through which Oda could make Luffy have a brief convo with his final villain: absolutely nothing. I guess I shouldn't be surprised with Oda's treatment of a tertiary character, from an arc standpoint with tons of tertiary characters as it is, but it bothers me nonetheless. Sigh…..
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I hoped Burgess would at least get a consolation devil fruit by killing one of Dofla family or something. I know, it was a slim chance from the get go.
Btw, not sure why so many people thought Burgess was all that. We've seen how BB pirates grew over time. Burgess can return stronger at some point, with a devil fruit that complements his ridiculous strength. Too bad he didn't get Buffalo's fruit.
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised with Oda's treatment of a tertiary character, from an arc standpoint with tons of tertiary characters as it is, but it bothers me nonetheless. Sigh…..
Precisely, one could easily argue that Dressrosa's tertiary characters were all quite good and received a fair treatment. If anything, Burgess came out as the ugly duckling of Dressrosa's tertiary characters. And seeing how all the family is already under the marines' custody, no fruit for him. . .for now.
I still think a Burgess with, say, the Buddha fruit, Diamond fruit or Phoenix fruit would give Sabo a run for his money.
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@Al!naJames:
I'm just… this chapter really made me speechless and made me question my life choices of reading this comic for the last 10 years and investing so much of my time and money and emotion into it.
I can't even get mad at Burgess for being SO pathetic and overall a terrible character or at Sabo for being the case of his misfortunes, I just feel sad and somewhat disgusted in general.
…..lol....simply lol
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Precisely, one could easily argue that Dressrosa's tertiary characters were all quite good and received a fair treatment. If anything, Burgess came out as the ugly duckling of Dressrosa's tertiary characters. And seeing how all the family is already under the marines' custody, no fruit for him. . .for now.
I still think a Burgess with, say, the Buddha fruit, Diamond fruit or Phoenix fruit would give Sabo a run for his money.
Diamond and Buddha I'll bite but come on a Hulk-like figure should never have the phoenix fruit, it doesn't compliment his style or strength one bit and now I can't get the phoenix on steroids image out of my head. You win this time.
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@uniaka:
Yes it should not be this way, but it is. Sabo is likely to surpass Dragon and be in the same league as pirate king luffy.
So he is on the same rank with Burgess only for now, Burgess will never get in that position. Sabo is about as strong as Ace would be after 2 years( since it was hinted that Sabo was almost equal to ace ever since kids), so based on what we saw from pre ts burgess with ace, Oda keeps the difference there.
A good example is Sanji and Luffy. You saw how Sanji had no chance with Doflamingo? Luffy defeated Doflamingo, but he is part of the same monster trio as Sanji.
Yep by the end of the manga ussop going to be part of the pirate king crew but that don't mean he won't get wreck by certain class characters .
@Al!naJames:
Yeah, I came to vent here just so I could get fantastic sarcastic remarks on how I feel. Good job, thanks for helping me out!
One of the reasons I've been a huge fan of Blackbeard Pirates for all these years was the potential they had to become final villains. But all they ever do onscreen is fail, fail and fail again and usually it's after a very bright and loud intro that gets you all excited. Instead of being complex bad guys they just act like total shitbags. It was obvious from the start that Burgess would never accomplish his goals in this arc, but did he really need to be trashed so bad? What was that horrible low-blow knife move done like 2-3 times in a row? It has to be a joke.
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No his strenght didn't suffice for the job if it did he wouldn't have lost to Luffy and subsequently wouldn't be chased by the same organisation that once relied on his "expertise"
The difference between you and me is that i see someone as koala and hack making areally really good job without being admiral level.
They don't fight super strong opponents cause that's not whatthey're aiming for.Stealth and strategy? How Kuma, as big as he is, managed to sneak around during his years in the Revo army I will never know. Oh and I guess his strenght is completely unnecessary too?
The marines didn't know he was a rev. So he managed to shut up and act as a normal pirate.
So you're actually praising one of the top skills someone needs for infiltration.And why does it matter what rank he is in his organisation? The higher up the ladder you are the stronger you should be, logically. Why do you think so many on this forum are left with a bad taste in their mouths seeing "1st Captain Burgess" be fodderized?
The race to become the pirate king is different than the revolutionaries goal. The revolutionaries are not competing with super strong guys just for power or fame. The revolutionaries have a political agenda and work mostly with sabotage.
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Meh, just give the Blackbeard Pirates the Supernovas' fruits.
Burgess=Uruoge's
Doc Q=Hawkins's
San Juan Wolf=Capone's
Devon=Bonney's
Vasco Shot=Apoo's
Pizarro=Drake'sAnd the top Supernova trio don't die while Shiliew and Van Auger don't need them. Lafitte already has one. Problem solved.
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THis is a stupid end for Doflamingo. All this "backround" and power shortened because Oda handled a too long arc with useless chapters (pushing wall) and too many characters (like 40% of them are useless and without any charisma). For me, one of the poorest arcs with Punk Hazard. What a waste of a potencial epic villain!
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Great chapter. Loved every single bit of it.
As expected Burgess was ROFLstomped by Sabo despite trying to get a cheap blow in.
And it is obvious the marines will probably execute Doflamingo. I mean thats the only way to mend their reputation back higher isn't it? Also, I wonder what the bounty increase will be for Luffy and Law. Another 100,000,000? Yes please :o
And now we wait for Kaido's reaction to the news.
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I'm not peeved any bit about Burgess getting fodderized. In fact it was expected. Despite being a Yonkou crew, the BB pirates are technically babies compared to the other Emporor's crews.The reason Blackbeard's crew is a Yonkou crew is solely because of Blackbeard. The Gorosei never mentioned Burgess or the other original members, (maybe the lvl 6 inmate members IDK) only comments on this crew were praise about BB's feats... nothing else. For all we know, there could (and there probably is) be a massive gap of power between him and his underlings.(obvious post is obvious) Look at Doflamingo's crew. (Doffy 50 percent/ Officers 40 percent/ Weak ass leftover crew members 10 percent)
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The race to become the pirate king is different than the revolutionaries goal. The revolutionaries are not competing with super strong guys just for power or fame. The revolutionaries have a political agenda and work mostly with sabotage.
The fodderization of Burgess is bad for the BB yonkou crew. It's legitimate to criticize that.You really can't say that since we don't have much info on the revolutionaries.
For eg did the revs not use force when they help free robin in the cover story can't remember .
Still most of the time a revolution is going to have force one way or the other .TLG , FFVIIR and Shenmue 3 2015 the E3 of dreams .
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"fire gun", "transponder", "yaksha".
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This chapter actually felt very long to me bc stuff happened. The last chapter felt like it was 3 pages. My guess is the knife is one of the ancient weapons or something. It's got to be a unique item otherwise other people would be using them
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Was Sabo suddenly put down dendenmushi because his personality or jb did something
can't Burgess atleast go into fucking supersain full hacki mode shit he is a yonko ship commander
