Earlier leaks by several other sources also list Dixie, Ridley, and Mewtwo. Same sources accurately predicted Dark Pit, Duck Hunt, Bowser Jr., Shulk, and Dr. Mario. Also mentioned Chorus Men. Mach Rider and Impa are new though…I do want Inpa to be playable as Zelda doesn't have a newcomer and my top choices (Midna and Skull Kid) are AT's. Just add K.Rool and Isaac, bring back the 4 vets and it's perfect...DLC?
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Oh no attack of the differing opinions. Lucas is better than Ness to begin with, but yes as a huge fan of the series it hurts to see the rep count drop. It got tons of love in Brawl which makes it even harder to get a downgrade. Almost any protagonist or major villain from the series would fit in really well.
And sorry I can't count a Pit clone as a villain addition.
Dark Pit is his own character in Uprising. Granted he is still kind of a clone given his origins, but he isn't the same character. And if you mean gameplay wise, it isn't impossible for Dark Pit to have an at least somewhat unique moveset, given the variety of weapons in uprising
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Wait is the Dixie thing true or not? Totally willing to forget Dr. Mario and Dark Pit for the last newcomer I wanted.
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Note: Impa and Mach Rider weren't there originally.
I'm aware. But Ridley, Dixie and Mewtwo are the big ones there anyways
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Dark Pit is his own character in Uprising. Granted he is still kind of a clone given his origins, but he isn't the same character. And if you mean gameplay wise, it isn't impossible for Dark Pit to have an at least somewhat unique moveset, given the variety of weapons in uprising
Ganondorf still looks just like his old self so I have no faith in Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, etc. being anything more than slight tweaks.
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My only regret about Dark Pit is that he's not called Pittoo in-game :sad:. I wanted the announcer and cheers to call him that way .
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And now the leaker has revealed to be behind the (fake) Palutena pic.
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Oh yeah, poor Ganon. :(
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Ganon-Forever bad
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Ganondorf still looks just like his old self so I have no faith in Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, etc. being anything more than slight tweaks.
I honestly think Sakurai is just hesitant to change Ganondorf up in any major way because he doesn't want to upset anyone who likes how he plays now. Hell, he's made important changes to other characters like bowser and regular pit, so it' definitely not impossible. And the dark pit render has the dark pit staff, so there's that
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Who in their right mind would want Ganon to stay a Falcon clone?
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Who in their right mind would want Ganon to stay a Falcon clone?
People who like to play as him
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And now the leaker has revealed to be behind the (fake) Palutena pic.
To elaborate there are two leakers. All star (where all of the videos came from) and mfl he's the one who making everyone jump through hopes.
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People who like to play as him
Maybe they only like to play as him because they like Ganon regardless of what his moveset is. Any changes would be a damn upgrade.
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Maybe they only like to play as him because they like Ganon regardless of what his moveset is. Any changes would be a damn upgrade.
I agree, but I'm not Sakurai. Pretty sure Sakurai said something like that in an interview once
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I honestly think Sakurai is just hesitant to change Ganondorf up in any major way because he doesn't want to upset anyone who likes how he plays now. Hell, he's made important changes to other characters like bowser and regular pit, so it' definitely not impossible. And the dark pit render has the dark pit staff, so there's that
So far we've seen pretty consistent evidence that original characters are getting a lot of love for balancing and tweaking but the clones are just clones. Throw Toon Link onto the list for example. If Lucina started as an alt costume for Marth then Dark Pit has a 99% chance of the same thing, IMO.
And oh no Sakurai is going to piss off the 3 people who like how Ganondorf currently plays. It's not like Sakurai ever does anything crazy or out there that pisses everyone off!
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Sakurai never intended Ganondorf to be playable in Melee. He was the last character added and he said he only got in due to his popularity and having a similar build to Captain falcon.
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Once again I don't know what to believe.
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So far we've seen pretty consistent evidence that original characters are getting a lot of love for balancing and tweaking but the clones are just clones. Throw Toon Link onto the list for example. If Lucina started as an alt costume for Marth then Dark Pit has a 99% chance of the same thing, IMO.
And oh no Sakurai is going to piss off the 3 people who like how Ganondorf currently plays. It's not like Sakurai ever does anything crazy or out there that pisses everyone off!
Again, just based off of what I heard in interviews. Not my personal opinion
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Once again I don't know what to believe.
Believe the pics and videos.
Anything else, take with a grain of salt.
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I liked the few changes they made to Ganondorf in Brawl's moveset. The only thing that really bothered me is his absence of projectiles which hopefully will be fixed with a custom Neutral B.
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Yep, holding out hope that deadman's volley is at least a custom move for Dorf
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So Mii is flat-out not present on the character select screen then? That's one thing I don't get. Also would be really disappointed if Ness is the only Mother Series character. The main thing that worries me overall, other than roster choices, is that clones still seem extremely clone-y. Even Shulk seems like a clone.
We also know the Mii Fighter is not present in all modes of play. There are circumstances where the game won't let you play as them, and we have no confirmation whatsoever that any of these shots or videos are coming from a mode where they're playable.
Mii fighter may also not have defaults and only appears on the CSS when you actually have a Mii Fighter created.
So far we've seen pretty consistent evidence that original characters are getting a lot of love for balancing and tweaking but the clones are just clones. Throw Toon Link onto the list for example. If Lucina started as an alt costume for Marth then Dark Pit has a 99% chance of the same thing, IMO.
And oh no Sakurai is going to piss off the 3 people who like how Ganondorf currently plays. It's not like Sakurai ever does anything crazy or out there that pisses everyone off!
IMO, the perfect way to fix Ganondorf would be to change one of his specials so that it becomes a "Sword Draw" technique, and otherwise he plays exactly the same. Drawing the sword would then radically change his play-style to a more unique one. Then maybe make whichever B attack you changed (Down B most likely) one of his customizable moves where you can give him back the old one, and boom: You have made everyone happy Sakurai.
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Thanks for bringing Duck Hunt Dog back, Sakurai. It's not like there are other series with multiple games spanning multiple generations of Nintendo systems, with fanbases still waiting for a new game to this day, like Advance Wars or Custom Robo or anything like that.
nope.
Better pull in another gimmicky retro character for shits and gigs.
wait, there's still roster space? HURRY!!!! MORE MARIO CHARACTERS!!!!!!
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Guess the ESRB video leak is all that there is today. It simply doesn't show all the characters.
Any additional leaks are probably fake. No pictures, no confirm.
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Thanks for bringing Duck Hunt Dog back, Sakurai. It's not like there are other series with multiple games spanning multiple generations of Nintendo systems, with fanbases still waiting for a new game to this day, like Advance Wars or Custom Robo or anything like that.
nope.
Better pull in another gimmicky retro character for shits and gigs.
wait, there's still roster space? HURRY!!!! MORE MARIO CHARACTERS!!!!!!
Sakurai has gone on record saying he likes to put in retro characters to revive interest in the. And advance wars aside, Custom Robo might have a bunch of games, but it is an INCREDIBLY small franchise that I don't think has ever even sold 100k copies for any given game
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I personally love the retro characters, so Duck Hunt Dog is fine with me.
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Well, at least we can finally shoot that bitch.
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Honestly, he's probably less out of place than Ice Climbers were
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If the leaks are true:
Bowser Jr. is unexpected, but could be kind of fun. Can't say I'm too excited about him. I never played Xenoblade, but that's cool for the people who were excited about Shulk - I'll have to see how he plays first before I judge. Ganondorf being (at least mostly) the same is disappointing, but oh well. Falco, Dr. Mario, Lucina, and Toon Link are all cool with me, but I admit Dark Pit has me a little annoyed - unless his moveset is significantly different, to Smash players he'll just be a palette-swapped Pit, which really shouldn't take up a separate slot. The other clones at least have something else different about them - what the heck are Dark Pit's alternate colors going to be, especially in differentiating him from Pit? I'll have to wait and see, of course, but not too happy about that.
People are upset about Duck Hunt? I think it's hilarious! This is the same franchise that has had ROB, Mr Game and Watch, and Wii Fit Trainer - is Duck Hunt really that out there?
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Well, at least we can finally shoot that bitch.
Trolling will be at an all time high.
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His taunts will be glorious.
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People are upset about Duck Hunt? I think it's hilarious! This is the same franchise that has had ROB, Mr Game and Watch, and Wii Fit Trainer - is Duck Hunt really that out there?
Well the thing is everyone has their desired list. And if there's one thing rabid fans can agree about, it's how annoying it is when NO ONE'S pick got in. Because of a troll character. I don't think it's bad in itself; it just will never live up to any character that's more of a beloved mainstay. Also ROB was awful in Brawl lol.
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Not like there isn't precedent
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i212/Faltzer_Black/createcardphp-1.jpg
That doesn't make it less disappointing though.
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Of all the leaks, this is perhaps the most legit, as it appeared in July.
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Holy information explosion.
Yep, looks like this is happening. :\
GIVE ME CHORUS MEN OR GIVE ME DEATH
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So, with the bombshell of these videos corroborating those screenshots, it looks like we have a confirmed roster thus far of 49 characters with a very real possibility all of the characters weren't unlocked.
Gonna try to sum up everything we know about the Roster thus far and what the current status of all the leaks we know is:
! Leaked with Corroborating Screenshots/Videos:
(Videos have pushed this list up to very trustworthy)
Mario
Dr. Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Yoshi
Rosalina
Bowser Jr.
Wario
Mr. Game & Watch
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Link
Zelda
Shiek
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Samus Aran
Zero Suit Samus
Pit
Lady Palutena
Dark Pit
Marth
Ike
Robin
Lucina
Kirby
King DeDeDe
Metaknight
Little Mac
Fox
Falco
Pikachu
Charizard
Lucario
Jigglypuff
Greninja
Duck Hunt Dog
R.O.B.
Ness
Captain Falcon
Villager
Captain Olimar
Wii Fit Trainer
Shulk
Pac Man
Megaman
Sonic The Hedgehog
Mii Fighter
! Leaked via Text only:
(Take with a HUGE grain of salt)
Dixie Kong
Mewtwo
Rythm Heaven
Ridley (?)
Lucas (DLC)
Wolf (DLC)
Ice Climbers (DLC)
Snake (DLC)Did I miss anything or get anything wrong?
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Holy crap, either those leaks are real or some people have way too much time on their hands. Not that I know anything about video editing but that seems legitimate.
If it is real I'll be disappointed, not because my picks aren't in, but because these characters debuted to me via ten second crappy leak video.
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So, with the bombshell of these videos corroborating those screenshots, it looks like we have a confirmed roster thus far of 49 characters with a very real possibility all of the characters weren't unlocked.
Gonna try to sum up everything we know about the Roster thus far and what the current status of all the leaks we know is:
! Leaked with Corroborating Screenshots/Videos:
(Videos have pushed this list up to very trustworthy)
Mario
Dr. Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Yoshi
Rosalina
Bowser Jr.
Wario
Mr. Game & Watch
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Link
Zelda
Shiek
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Samus Aran
Zero Suit Samus
Pit
Lady Palutena
Dark Pit
Marth
Ike
Robin
Lucina
Kirby
King DeDeDe
Metaknight
Little Mac
Fox
Falco
Pikachu
Charizard
Lucario
Jigglypuff
Greninja
Duck Hunt Dog
R.O.B.
Ness
Captain Falcon
Villager
Captain Olimar
Wii Fit Trainer
Shulk
Pac Man
Megaman
Sonic The Hedgehog
Mii Fighter
! Leaked via Text only:
(Take with a HUGE grain of salt)
Dixie Kong
Mewtwo
Rythm Heaven
Lucas (DLC)
Wolf (DLC)
Chorus Men (DLC)
Ice Climbers (DLC)
Snake (DLC)Did I miss anything or get anything wrong?
Chorus Men and Rhythm Heaven are kind of the same thing. Also Ridley's not on your text list.
Also I just realized ROB is actually still in. See, I get Duck Hunt Dog as a REPLACEMENT for another super old gimmick character, not as an addition. And why did ROB need renewed interest anyway? It's not something anyone will ever use again.
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If Rildey really is in the game, I'm not that upset. Two new villains!
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Chorus Men and Rhythm Heaven are kind of the same thing. Also Ridley's not on your text list.
Also I just realized ROB is actually still in. See, I get Duck Hunt Dog as a REPLACEMENT for another super old gimmick character, not as an addition. And why did ROB need renewed interest anyway? It's not something anyone will ever use again.
So IC aren't super old gimmick chars now?
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Other than "People really want him in" what reason to we have to believe Ridley might be in the game? Sorry, the leak info is coming so fast and plentiful I may have missed it.
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So IC aren't super old gimmick chars now?
Ice Climbers is still a game people can play. And could still get a new entry in the franchise. ROB is a defunct accessory.
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Ridley can't be in because of Smash tradition. People are just trying to drum up everyones hopes me thinks.
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Other than "People really want him in" what reason to we have to believe Ridley might be in the game? Sorry, the leak info is coming so fast and plentiful I may have missed it.
For that matter, where did Dixie, Mewtwo, and Rhythm Heaven come from?Not that I can keep track of things perfectly myself but like, see King Cannon's post above. It's no less credible than DLC claims.
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EDIT: Fake, apparently.