Watching Aldnoah Zero, and seeing A1 make such a quality anime is really disheartening… Magi had source material from the manga and it was terribly executed by A1... I'm really glad A1 isn't doing the Sinbad OVAs, and I really hope someone else adapts Magi Season 3 some day (and perhaps even reboot the show entirely, because lets face it, we need Roachbaba to not be a thing associated with Magi).
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I disliked how A-1 made Alibaba an Emo at the end of Season 1, one thing A-1 has done well with Magi is not censoring the gore…
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Because of this they will probably unite to fight of Al Thamen and destroy Arba once and for all. About Aladdin, I feel sorry for him. He did not even get to see his mother(except for the flashback)
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I hope (and doubt) that the characters will act like Aladin is their king. It wouldn't make any sense at all. All of these guys who have endless ambition find out that a kid, who is the son of a character that was the long of a different world and you guys expect them to think of him as the rightful ruler?
In my opinion, he doesn't have the characteristics of a ruler, unlike Alibaba, Kouen, and Sinbad. And honestly I don't see how this flashback changes the main story. Other than Kou, everyone already hated Al Thamen and knew that Black Ruhk sucked, and it would be retarded if some characters snapped like Arba and started to Worship the Black Ruhk.
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So have they revealed what Judar did to the Sindrians yet? I'm too lazy to read the Adventures of Sinbad.
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Raw is out. http://www.mangabird.com/magi-labyrinth-magic-235?page=0
Have I ever said how much I love the way this woman draws? The landscapes, the facial expressions, the amount of detail she puts on every single element in each panel and page.
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With the new chapter, everything finally ties together and nicely. Copying and pasting a summary from another site:
! > The Al Thamen are all tools, who follow Arba due to them being scared that they're no longer all powerful. Even though they claimed to believe in peace and equality, in other words they're hypocrites. Sheba was the only loyal Magi to Solomon, and because of that the other magicians thought of her as a traitor to them.Ugo isn't thought of as a traitor since its likely that no one really knew that he was there.
Solomon created the new world and pull all of the other species in it, but the human magicians. This could possibly mean that none of the characters in the current world are really human, and that the Al Thamen is ironcially no better than David and his army. Wahid then sacrifices himself in order to open a way for Il Ilah, who isn't just a mindless mass of goop but really doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything.
Interestingly enough the story frames the Al Thamen as the villians as well as in over their heads, but still think of themselves as heroes, even while the very thing that they vow to follow goes on a rampant killing spree on everyone in the vicinity.
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Okay. Sinbad is physically hurting me to watch at this point. and I know he's just going to get worse. (I'm on episode 9 of the anime)
Like, I feel genuinely lightheaded and hysterical right now. and short of breath
How come whenever I try to watch a series, my enjoyment has to be destroyed by an overpowered, hyper powerful, hyper intelligent and wise mentor figure who can effortlessly defeat villains and destroy any tension in action scenes and leave me worried that every story event is part of this character's plan in some way
I have no idea how to deal with characters like that but everyone else loves them… :(
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But don't you already have the knowledge that he's going to be Gary-Stuing it all over the place? We already know he's supposed to be destined for great things from an early age. But it's more about seeing his companions and how they all became entangled with him. And how they grow. I've been looking at the Sinbad spinoff more as a fleshing out story. Rather than a mystery.
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But don't you already have the knowledge that he's going to be Gary-Stuing it all over the place? We already know he's supposed to be destined for great things from an early age. But it's more about seeing his companions and how they all became entangled with him. And how they grow. I've been looking at the Sinbad spinoff more as a fleshing out story. Rather than a mystery.
I think he's talking about the anime.
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I think he's talking about the anime.
Yes… though it would be the same even if I was reading the manga.
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I figured he was talking about the anime. But did they change the story already?
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I figured he was talking about the anime. But did they change the story already?
Where I am he's beating the crap out of Alibaba and Cassim. Without any Djinn and none of his equipment. That alone pissed me off enough to just shut down and go into physical bouts of hysteria. I hate ultra powerful characters that much.
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I suggest you keep going. While he is a powerful character, he isn't all that righteous or perfect. That, and it's been foreshadowed that him and his empire could eventually fall due to having too much power.
I don't read the spinoff or anything, but I'm actually looking forward to see Aliababa move out of a shadow as huge as Sinbad's.
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I suggest you keep going. While he is a powerful character, he isn't all that righteous or perfect. That, and it's been foreshadowed that him and his empire could eventually fall due to having too much power.
I don't read the spinoff or anything, but I'm actually looking forward to see Aliababa move out of a shadow as huge as Sinbad's.
I'm worried about villains. Like, villains being allowed to be awesome without being overshadowed instantly by Sinbad.
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Where I am he's beating the crap out of Alibaba and Cassim. Without any Djinn and none of his equipment. That alone pissed me off enough to just shut down and go into physical bouts of hysteria. I hate ultra powerful characters that much.
It's not that he's ultra powerful (even though he is), it's just that they were weak as shit then.
Current Alibaba could probably do the same.
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It's not that he's ultra powerful (even though he is), it's just that they were weak as shit then.
Current Alibaba could probably do the same.
Again, I'm just petrified of seeing the same happen to villains… :(
You could say it's terror and paranoia for things to come.
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Again, I'm just petrified of seeing the same happen to villains… :(
You could say it's terror and paranoia for things to come.
The Balbadd Arc is a training arc. Currently, everyone is like Level 1 - 5 while Sinbad is like Level 70. Don't be disheartened, the story will flow.
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Yeah a the story will flow smoothly, it's a shame what happens to the action though…
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The Balbadd Arc is a training arc. Currently, everyone is like Level 1 - 5 while Sinbad is like Level 70. Don't be disheartened, the story will flow.
So has anyone beaten Sinbad in the story so far? (glares)
Like, at least with Whitebeard I could take comfort in the fact that he was going to die very soon. So his overpowered presence wouldn't permeate the entire story. I know that Sinbad isn't going away so how am I going to tolerate him when I hate overpowered and incredibly intelligent characters who aren't villains?
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Sinbad was actually fairly minor at first, but now that he's becoming a bigger player, I'm worried as well. I like some of the ambiguity surrounding his character, but that's pretty much it. Similarly to Solomon.
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Sinbad was actually fairly minor at first, but now that he's becoming a bigger player, I'm worried as well. I like some of the ambiguity surrounding his character, but that's pretty much it. Similarly to Solomon.
I don't get why you'd make a character that powerful unless you were going to put either a load of limits on him (like Death in Soul Eater) or kill him off (Whitebeard)
Characters like that kill tension for me because it means the conflict doesn't feel like it's all that meaningful because I know Sinbad could solve it if things got out of hand. The characters may die but the villain won't "win". And that just takes something away from the menace that a villain is supposed to instill.
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But Sinbad isn't really being set up as the sort of character that is going to plow through the villains for Alibaba or Aladdin. He's got much more omnious things he's doing or that have been said about him. He's more likely to be final boss or close to it despite hearing the backstory to this world I feel.
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But Sinbad isn't really being set up as the sort of character that is going to plow through the villains for Alibaba or Aladdin. He's got much more omnious things he's doing or that have been said about him. He's more likely to be final boss or close to it despite hearing the backstory to this world I feel.
But doesn't he stomp a few of the villains? Like, what keeps him out of the conflicts of future arcs? What makes it so I can believe the villains might win and achieve their goals?
Like, Judar only managed to survive his fight with Ugo due to luck via that Kou Princess arriving to save him
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But doesn't he stomp a few of the villains? Like, what keeps him out of the conflicts of future arcs? What makes it so I can believe the villains might win and achieve their goals?
He's also actively stepped aside and onky stepped in when necessary. But future arcs can also take place in a dungeon. He's barred from going in to those. So there's that. He's hit his dungeon lifetime cap. He could also have other things to do that aren't nearby. There's plenty reasons for him to not fight. I've yet to feel they used him as a quick method to get out of overly powerful enemy fights. This isn't Bleach or Naruto where the side characters are helpless.
Again. Balabad is a beginner level arc. Alibaba could barely use his sword and Morg didn't even have a household item and Aladdin had one weak spell. Judar was supposed to be powerful to show what they could be like later.
And now I see I misread what you meant earlier. The villains are doin pretty good I think. The amiunt of devastated people has been high. And Zuko 2.0 is out there powering up.
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He's also actively stepped aside and onky stepped in when necessary. But future arcs can also take place in a dungeon. He's barred from going in to those. So there's that. He's hit his dungeon lifetime cap. He could also have other things to do that aren't nearby. There's plenty reasons for him to not fight. I've yet to feel they used him as a quick method to get out of overly powerful enemy fights. This isn't Bleach or Naruto where the side characters are helpless.
I'm not worried about him being used as a quick method of winning. I'm worried about him being a safety net. Like, if things go tits up he'd be there to stop the villain from succeeding even if the main characters die.
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The writer counteracts that by giving Sinbad a dark side. So you don't really know whether he'll be a friend or an enemy in the end. He's not a Kakashi kind of character who will always be helping next generation get stronger, he's the main character of his own story, and Aladdin and Alibaba are means to his own end. Or the world's. It will get clearer if you catch up with manga.
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Where I am he's beating the crap out of Alibaba and Cassim. Without any Djinn and none of his equipment. That alone pissed me off enough to just shut down and go into physical bouts of hysteria. I hate ultra powerful characters that much.
To be fair, pretty much everyone don't like that side of Sin. I do like everything about him. But seriously, Alibaba just got his vessel and is inexperienced while Cassim is using a simple magical item. For a guy that his a living legend that much.
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Judar was supposed to be powerful to show what they could be like later.
Really, cuz Judar was kinda underwhelming. Like, yeah, when I look at the scene objectively he was powerful, but the way the scene was structured and played out made him look too dumb to be intensely dangerous. Especially once the cast get stronger than they are now. At least to me. Alibaba still managed to cut him and Ugo was seconds away from murdering him outright before he was saved by allies who arrived. Our big villain is only alive because of luck. What the actual crap? I certainly don't remember major villains in other series getting beaten so thoroughly like that in their very first fight ever. Or if they do, it's so that they can go From Nobody To Nightmare and blindside people wit how dangerous they are when they return.
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Can I just say that I really had trouble to distinguish Arba from Sheba in the latest chapter? To me it felt like their head gear and third eye kept changing between the two.
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Can I just say that I really had trouble to distinguish Arba from Sheba in the latest chapter? To me it felt like their head gear and third eye kept changing between the two.
No, I keep mixing them and some other characters up. The art has really taken a dive particularly in this flashback.
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theory via /r/magi
The idea of Magi has recently, within the last 75 chapters, taken a turn where the entire quarrel is a fight between two legitimate Gods and their respective religions. Not to mention that the entire series takes a cultural standpoint towards the Middle East and makes near constant references to The Arabian Nights.However in our history itself Ill Illah was a very real being, or as we know today, a very real character. Behold, one of the very original names and renditions of the Judaic God, "El Elyon".
(Originally meant as an episode on this guys conversion and tale into atheism) he mentions the name El Elyon which almost instantly brought onto the name of Ill Illah.
While watching this
El Elyon was the the most important of the Gods in the Canaanite religion, being said to be the father of the other Deities and all life as we know it.
Of course, I decided not to use some video like this as complete and utter evidence and I encourage you to do the exact same when proofreading this. So I decided to do my own research into the Canaanites.
That is when it hit me.
The story of Magi is a parallel of the conversion of the Canaanite's (Al Thamen) to the structure that we now refer to as Judaism (King Solomon and his Magi's) and in more detail the change from El Elyon to one of his child Gods, Yahweh (Who the Jewish use as the name of the creator).
This also reflects on the conflicts the Yahweh's Yahhists had with the Canaanites who worshiped his effective "Father", El Elyon.
While Al Thamen and their religion reflect differently in some ways, the story plays out almost the exact same. Il Illah (El Elyon) was responsible for Solomon's (Yahweh's) creation by creating (Fathering) his world (Life).
This also brings an attack towards organized religion, such as Churches, Chapels, and and religious oppression. In the new universe where Alibaba, Morgiana, and others live in there is barely any mention of King Solomon as a God aside from the Djinns who directly serve him. In Alma Toran, the world constantly worships Ill Illah and as such segregation is rampant.
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But doesn't he stomp a few of the villains? Like, what keeps him out of the conflicts of future arcs? What makes it so I can believe the villains might win and achieve their goals?
Like, Judar only managed to survive his fight with Ugo due to luck via that Kou Princess arriving to save him
Ugo doesn't have to do with Sin. So you criticizing the main characters doing shit rather than sin.
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I'm not worried about him being used as a quick method of winning. I'm worried about him being a safety net. Like, if things go tits up he'd be there to stop the villain from succeeding even if the main characters die.
You expect the hero to be the strongest "good guy" in there? Anyway Sin can't do much against the force in Balbaad without his vessel. He mostly rely on his Masmur to take care of stuff. He just isn't powerless and have some tricks.
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Really, cuz Judar was kinda underwhelming. Like, yeah, when I look at the scene objectively he was powerful, but the way the scene was structured and played out made him look too dumb to be intensely dangerous. Especially once the cast get stronger than they are now. At least to me. Alibaba still managed to cut him and Ugo was seconds away from murdering him outright before he was saved by allies who arrived. Our big villain is only alive because of luck. What the actual crap? I certainly don't remember major villains in other series getting beaten so thoroughly like that in their very first fight ever. Or if they do, it's so that they can go From Nobody To Nightmare and blindside people wit how dangerous they are when they return.
I do have problem taking Judar seriously. But let's not forgot he got his ass kicked by Solomon's djinn(which shouldn't even materialize) going all out. And he got a couple of shots in. Like the big ice spear.
Pretty sure Blackbeard get his ass kick on a regular basis.
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You expect the hero to be the strongest "good guy" in there? Anyway Sin can't do much against the force in Balbaad without his vessel. He mostly rely on his Masmur to take care of stuff. He just isn't powerless and have some tricks.
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I do have problem taking Judar seriously. But let's not forgot he got his ass kicked by Solomon's djinn(which shouldn't even materialize) going all out. And he got a couple of shots in. Like the big ice spear.
Pretty sure Blackbeard get his ass kick on a regular basis.
I don't know what's special about Ugo. So I had no way of knowing he was the bestest and most powerful Djinn ever. but if that's the case then okay.
And no, I don't want the hero to be the strongest good guy. I just expect the conflict to be structured so that the villains can still win in some capacity without running into the top fish if they themselves aren't powerful enough to take them on.
and Blackbeard got his ass beat a lot but he still got back up and managed to win and gloat. Or he arranged so that he had people on hand to save him if things got out of hand. I think the only time blind luck saved him was when he got poisoned by Magellan.
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I don't know what's special about Ugo. So I had no way of knowing he was the bestest and most powerful Djinn ever. but if that's the case then okay.
And no, I don't want the hero to be the strongest good guy. I just expect the conflict to be structured so that the villains can still win in some capacity without running into the top fish if they themselves aren't powerful enough to take them on.
and Blackbeard got his ass beat a lot but he still got back up and managed to win and gloat. Or he arranged so that he had people on hand to save him if things got out of hand. I think the only time blind luck saved him was when he got poisoned by Magellan.
Djinn are way more powerful than anyone(except maybe the magis) which is why those at the top using their power.
Sin don't have his djinn. He currently wouldn't be able to stop them. Not with strength anyway.
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Djinn are way more powerful than anyone(except maybe the magis) which is why those at the top using their power.
Sin don't have his djinn. He currently wouldn't be able to stop them. Not with strength anyway.
I know… and the reason why he doesn't have them feels kinda contrived so that some tension could still exist in this arc.
I don't buy that he could get robbed like he did. He's too powerful and he's too intelligent. In fact, that's a problem I've been having with Sin in this whole arc. I honestly can't tell in any of his scenes whether he's being genuine in his reactions or it's all a part of some plan to manipulate or guide the situation to his benefit. And if he is being manipulative then, again, it makes the villains and other factions look lame next to him.
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I know… and the reason why he doesn't have them feels kinda contrived so that some tension could still exist in this arI don't buy that he could get robbed like he did. He's too powerful and he's too intelligent. In fact, that's a problem I've been having with Sin in this whole arcI don't buy that he could get robbed like he did. He's too powerful and he's too intelligent. In fact, that's a problem I've been having with Sin in this whole arc.
Or you are wrong about how perfect Sin is. He is a Gary Sue I suppose but like pretty much any character in this manga he has his not so swrious or perfect side.
I honestly can't tell in any of his scenes whether he's being genuine in his reactions or it's all a part of some plan to manipulate or guide the situation to his benefit. And if he is being manipulative then, again, it makes the villains and other factions look lame next to him.
Pretty sure you are way too wary of Sin.
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theory via /r/magi
The idea of Magi has recently, within the last 75 chapters, taken a turn where the entire quarrel is a fight between two legitimate Gods and their respective religions. Not to mention that the entire series takes a cultural standpoint towards the Middle East and makes near constant references to The Arabian Nights.However in our history itself Ill Illah was a very real being, or as we know today, a very real character. Behold, one of the very original names and renditions of the Judaic God, "El Elyon".
(Originally meant as an episode on this guys conversion and tale into atheism) he mentions the name El Elyon which almost instantly brought onto the name of Ill Illah.
While watching this
El Elyon was the the most important of the Gods in the Canaanite religion, being said to be the father of the other Deities and all life as we know it.
Of course, I decided not to use some video like this as complete and utter evidence and I encourage you to do the exact same when proofreading this. So I decided to do my own research into the Canaanites.
That is when it hit me.
The story of Magi is a parallel of the conversion of the Canaanite's (Al Thamen) to the structure that we now refer to as Judaism (King Solomon and his Magi's) and in more detail the change from El Elyon to one of his child Gods, Yahweh (Who the Jewish use as the name of the creator).
This also reflects on the conflicts the Yahweh's Yahhists had with the Canaanites who worshiped his effective "Father", El Elyon.
While Al Thamen and their religion reflect differently in some ways, the story plays out almost the exact same. Il Illah (El Elyon) was responsible for Solomon's (Yahweh's) creation by creating (Fathering) his world (Life).
This also brings an attack towards organized religion, such as Churches, Chapels, and and religious oppression. In the new universe where Alibaba, Morgiana, and others live in there is barely any mention of King Solomon as a God aside from the Djinns who directly serve him. In Alma Toran, the world constantly worships Ill Illah and as such segregation is rampant.
Magi is a tale of religion, but provides that those that are kind and understanding of others will have a happier easier lifestyle than those who attempt to force their life views on others or punish them for not having the Religious sense of Grace, a shared belief in their own God.Feels like the person is digging too deep. Ohtaka used basic ideas from The Arabian Nights, which include fabled figures like Aladdin, Sinbad, Morgiana, Alibaba, and Abrahamic figures like King David and King Solomon. Sure, there would be some elements that would be inherent in the manga, but Canaanites vs Jews is a pretty far fetch'd notion.
Also, segregation in Alma Toran wasn't caused by worship of Il Illah. It occurred due to fear – fear of being destroyed, fear of having no control over your lives, fear of repeating history, fear of bending to the will of others, etc.
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The chapter had some nice drawings here and there but the overall content was so-so. My enjoyment for this arc died a couple of chapters ago and now I only want it to end. Naturally I'll pick up the bits and pieces relevant to the future of the story but other than that I basically skim through the pages.
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well it seems likely that we only have 1 more chapter at most of this arc, if that.
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I know… and the reason why he doesn't have them feels kinda contrived so that some tension could still exist in this arc.
I don't buy that he could get robbed like he did. He's too powerful and he's too intelligent. In fact, that's a problem I've been having with Sin in this whole arc. I honestly can't tell in any of his scenes whether he's being genuine in his reactions or it's all a part of some plan to manipulate or guide the situation to his benefit. And if he is being manipulative then, again, it makes the villains and other factions look lame next to him.
Nope, he was legitimately napping when he got robbed. Sometimes Sin's goofy like that.
You may see him as overpowered but you have to keep in mind that he's been conquering dungeons since the age of 14. Sin traveled the world and accumulated experiences for the most part of his life; in the process refining his skills, gathering incredibly loyal and powerful allies, but also getting to taste defeat and sorrow at some points. His hatred for Al-Thamen doesn't just come from anywhere and is rooted in events from many years ago.
He built a country from scratch using his wits, charisma, and diplomatic skills instead of "cuz hes the main charcter lolz". And even that didn't go as smoothly as you'd think at first.Sinbad is a singularity. A being born once in a thousand years maybe (if not more). But he is not perfect. He too is human and makes mistakes. Which will eventually lead to his views colliding with the heroes' and an inevitable clash (which has yet to happen so its not a spoiler).
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Did this manga actually show a tiny fetus get magically teleported outside a woman's belly? Did someone actually put that in a fucking manga? Ugh
And once again I have no real idea what the hell is going on, it's all a big fucking mess. Sequential art? What's that?
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So am I the only one tired of this whole Solomon story? its weird, its boring, its confusing, I love Magi but the last few arcs ugh, I used to be really looking forward for the next chapters now I even forget its out.
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No you're not. I think It's after Magnostadt that I started losing interest, too. Magnostadt had a really interesting villain and despite a lot of action chapters wasn't nearly as confusing, plus wrapped up nicely, I think.
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So am I the only one tired of this whole Solomon story? its weird, its boring, its confusing, I love Magi but the last few arcs ugh, I used to be really looking forward for the next chapters now I even forget its out.
You're not the only. I miss the adventure vibe we had in earliar arcs, which is what caught me up.
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The whole of Solomon story was something we had to go through, sooner or later. The proble is how Ohtaka decided to tell it to us: not very well, at least for me, with odd pacing, characters who felt "just there" and many other issues. Anyway, it seems like it's almost the end of it, so we just have to endure a couple of weeks, before getting back to the main story. I hope. Magnostadt was good, for me, apart from the fight against the medium, which quickly became a bit confusing and very, very repetitive.
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yep solomon,you were a terrible,terrible king
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Wow the art was really bad in this chapter.
I completely forgot about the Sinbad spin off, I should probably get around to reading that
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Read the chapter. So what exactly new did this flashback tell us in the end? We already knew Gyokuen was the enemy. The art was especially bad.
! what the hell is this?
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^ Technically, it should be the advent of Il Illah, but it can also look like the sky is dumping some liquid stuff on everyone below.