It's going to be a glorious day when Strelok gets one of his "100% fact" predictions wrong.
"Sanji won't eat the mera mera no mi" -> 90%
"Luffy will throw the mera mera no mi to the bottom of the sea" -> 0.01%
It's going to be a glorious day when Strelok gets one of his "100% fact" predictions wrong.
"Sanji won't eat the mera mera no mi" -> 90%
"Luffy will throw the mera mera no mi to the bottom of the sea" -> 0.01%
The throwing was a joke. And "Sanji won't eat the Mera Mera no Mi" is 100%.
Ok. Are there other 100% facts I'm not aware of?
I don't know what you are aware of.
Let's put it this way: Sanji won't eat it, for the same reason why Luffy won't kill his crew while they sleep: it will be out of character, stupid, it wouldn't bring anything good, it would ruin the story, etc.
I think luffy will take it after he defeated doflamingo, and then it will be stolen again by the Marines, where one of the admirals will eat it. light, fire and ???
@Стрелок:
I don't know what you are aware of.
Let's put it this way: Sanji won't eat it, for the same reason why Luffy won't kill his crew while they sleep: it will be out of character, stupid, it wouldn't bring anything good, it would ruin the story, etc.
Yeah, yeah, I know. But I was asking about other things: What will happen during this arc? Will the crew fight Fujitora, Doflamingo? What is dangerous about Doflamingo's past? Who did cut Z's arm?… Any facts that aren't stated in the manga.... yet.
Z's arm was cut by the last Shichibukai.
I don't always know what will happen. But if you pay attention to the manga, you could guess some future developements. The same way I knew that Law was on Punk Hazard before he was revealed or that Buggy became a Shichi. The same way people guessed that Luffy will use Momonosuke to fly or that CC has Monet's heart or the blind guy from last chapter was Fujitora, etc.
When a manga is coherent and well-written (without plot-holes) it is possible to "guess" what will happen.
@Стрелок:
Z's arm was cut by the last Shichibukai.
I don't always know what will happen. But if you pay attention to the manga, you could guess some future developements. The same way I knew that Law was on Punk Hazard before he was revealed or that Buggy became a Shichi. The same way people guessed that Luffy will use Momonosuke to fly or that CC has Monet's heart or the blind guy from last chapter was Fujitora, etc.
When a manga is coherent and well-written (without plot-holes) it is possible to "guess" what will happen.
It's possible to guess some things that will happen, like the obvious hints. However, with the many different elements going into the current arc, it's still hard to guess what will happen 100%.
Luffy's going to eat the Mera Mera no Mi and then explode and as a result One Piece is going to abruptly end. Jokes
But seriously I think none of the Straw Hats are going to eat and possibly Sabo might eat it when he reappears :ninja:. It'd be cool if one of the weaker Straw-Hats ate it and made them super strong :D
@Стрелок:
Z's arm was cut by the last Shichibukai.
I don't always know what will happen. But if you pay attention to the manga, you could guess some future developements. The same way I knew that Law was on Punk Hazard before he was revealed or that Buggy became a Shichi. The same way people guessed that Luffy will use Momonosuke to fly or that CC has Monet's heart or the blind guy from last chapter was Fujitora, etc.
When a manga is coherent and well-written (without plot-holes) it is possible to "guess" what will happen.
You knew that Law was on Punk Hazard? When? When yo saw that a man was cut to pieces and still alive? That's pretty obvious because we had seen Law's powers and Law being there was the only logical explaination (although some people though it was Buggy…). Generally I agree whith everything you said, but I can't see what will happen with the mera mera so obvious.
PS: This might be the first time you recognize you are guessing...
Guess was put in quotation marks for a reason. And even though it was pretty obvious that is was Law and that he was a Shichibukai some people argued that he can't be a Shichi because he helped Luffy during the War.
This was just one example. Buggy being a Shichibukai was also obvious, but some people still argued that it wasn't confirmed.
I never said what will happen to the Mera-Mera No Mi, except for the throwing in the ocean which was pretty much a joke. I just know what won't happen and this is any Strawhat eating it.
@Стрелок:
Guess was put in quotation marks for a reason. And even though it was pretty obvious that is was Law and that he was a Shichibukai some people argued that he can't be a Shichi because he helped Luffy during the War.
This was just one example. Buggy being a Shichibukai was also obvious, but some people still argued that it wasn't confirmed.
I never said what will happen to the Mera-Mera No Mi, except for the throwing in the ocean which was pretty much a joke. I just know what won't happen and this is any Strawhat eating it.
IMO that's not even comparable. But let me ask you another question: Do you think the Mera Mera will be, at some point, in the straw hats' hands?
Maybe .
@Стрелок:
Maybe .
Ok.
Option 1:
Luffy - "I know I don't usually care about things, but I don't wat anyone of you to eat this fruit. It's my brother's fruit!!!"
Option 2:
Sanji - "A powerful Logia that'd may me stronger and awesome. I'll pass!!! I just wanna swiiiiim"
Nami - "A fruit that would make very difficult to hit me and give me tremendous powers. Disgusting"
Franky - "A logia? That's not super!"
Usopp - " I use a lot of artifacts to fight and hide, but a devil fruit? what a shame, I want to stay a coward for life!!!"
Zoro - "I am a swordman and I don't need devil fruits" ( I agree).
All the crew - "Although every one in One piece wants to eat a devil fruit, we, the straw hat crew, for some reason, hate the devil fruits almost as much as Law hates bread"
Luffy - "I didn't know what a devil fruit was… If only I could go back to that day and not eat it..."
Choper - "I was a reinder and I didn't know what I was doing!!!"
Brook - "Me too, I wish I never ate it, I wouldn't be a living skeleton, wich everybody hates!"
Robin - "I don't usually talk"
Option 3:
Luffy - "Let's keep it in the ship, and wait until we meet Coby again, don't ask me why!!!!"
Ok.
Option 1:
Luffy - "I know I don't usually care about things, but I don't wat anyone of you to eat this fruit. It's my brother's fruit!!!"
Option 2:
Sanji - "A powerful Logia that'd may me stronger and awesome. I'll pass!!! I just wanna swiiiiim"
Nami - "A fruit that would make very difficult to hit me and give me tremendous powers. Disgusting"
Franky - "A logia? That's not super!"
Usopp - " I use a lot of artifacts to fight and hide, but a devil fruit? what a shame, I want to stay a coward for life!!!"
Zoro - "I am a swordman and I don't need devil fruits" ( I agree).
All the crew - "Although every one in One piece wants to eat a devil fruit, we, the straw hat crew, for some reason, hate the devil fruits almost as much as Law hates bread"
Luffy - "I didn't know what a devil fruit was… If only I could go back to that day and not eat it..."
Choper - "I was a reinder and I didn't know what I was doing!!!"
Brook - "Me too, I wish I never ate it, I wouldn't be a living skeleton, wich everybody hates!"
Robin - "I don't usually talk"
Option 3:
Luffy - "Let's keep it in the ship, and wait until we meet Coby again, don't ask me why!!!!"
Sanji said he has no interest in devil fruits cuz of this… He only wanted one specific one... And this one was eaten by Absalom
Option 4:
D.F. Dark comes and ends it. And they lived happily ever after.
…....................LOL
sanji: ok! a devil fruit that will give me the power to produce fire,....i already have the ability to produce fire though, well anyways, maybe if i eat this fruit i'll be ten times hotter than before.
not.
Sanji said he has no interest in devil fruits cuz of this… He only wanted one specific one... And this one was eaten by Absalom
Imagine if Sanji finds out how to get devil fruits from their users… he'll probably hunt Absalom to the end of the earth.
Imagine if Sanji finds out how to get devil fruits from their users… he'll probably hunt Absalom to the end of the earth.
Or he will kidnap Vegapunk or BB to get the fruit ouf Absalom
Or he will kidnap Vegapunk or BB to get the fruit ouf Absalom
Well, BB still has to kill the user.
Ok.
Option 1:
Luffy - "I know I don't usually care about things, but I don't wat anyone of you to eat this fruit. It's my brother's fruit!!!"
Option 2:
Sanji - "A powerful Logia that'd may me stronger and awesome. I'll pass!!! I just wanna swiiiiim"
Nami - "A fruit that would make very difficult to hit me and give me tremendous powers. Disgusting"
Franky - "A logia? That's not super!"
Usopp - " I use a lot of artifacts to fight and hide, but a devil fruit? what a shame, I want to stay a coward for life!!!"
Zoro - "I am a swordman and I don't need devil fruits" ( I agree).
All the crew - "Although every one in One piece wants to eat a devil fruit, we, the straw hat crew, for some reason, hate the devil fruits almost as much as Law hates bread"
Luffy - "I didn't know what a devil fruit was… If only I could go back to that day and not eat it..."
Choper - "I was a reinder and I didn't know what I was doing!!!"
Brook - "Me too, I wish I never ate it, I wouldn't be a living skeleton, wich everybody hates!"
Robin - "I don't usually talk"
Option 3:
Luffy - "Let's keep it in the ship, and wait until we meet Coby again, don't ask me why!!!!"
Everyone has made it clear why Sanji eating the fruit would be entirely out of character for him. As for everyone else, especially Usopp and Nami, the balance that Oda holds so dear would be ruined. They are the weakest and the most real world human like of the crew. They have very creative fighting styles that have been honed to near perfection since the time skip, any one of them eating the fruit would be a huge slap in the face to the character and the fans.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if after receiving it Luffy gave the crew the option to pick who among the fruitless would want it. It would make for some fantastic character development and insight. But I am absolutely certain not a single current member of the crew or Jinbe will eat that fruit.
Everyone has made it clear why Sanji eating the fruit would be entirely out of character for him.
"I'm not interested" is basically the only argument. He could change his mind, you know. If he has trouble with next opponent, like with Vergo, he could feel the need to become more powerful somehow. Maybe he'll think he's at his limit or something, and eating a fruit is the only way to get stronger. Or he could eat by accident.
He could never swim with mermaids again, i think that is reason enough.
He could never swim with mermaids again, i think that is reason enough.
Flutter Kick coating.
"I'm not interested" is basically the only argument. He could change his mind, you know. If he has trouble with next opponent, like with Vergo, he could feel the need to become more powerful somehow. Maybe he'll think he's at his limit or something, and eating a fruit is the only way to get stronger. Or he could eat by accident.
And maybe Luffy will change his mind about wanting to become the Pirate King. It's totally possible.
@Стрелок:
And maybe Luffy will change his mind about wanting to become the Pirate King. It's totally possible.
Not eating a fruit isn't Sanji's dream.
@MiyamotoMusashi:
Do you want a bubble between you and the tits of a woman?
They can both go in the bubble. Or stay on land. Whatever. He was willing to give that up for the Suke Suke no Mi.
Once again, no matter what stupid "arguments" you will say, the fact is that Sanji won't eat it, stop spamming the thread.
Not eating a fruit isn't Sanji's dream.
They can both go in the bubble. Or stay on land. Whatever. He was willing to give that up for the Suke Suke no Mi.
1.) That would not be swimming
2.) Of course he was willing because it would mean that he could peep even more, the Mera Mera does not provide that service
Depending on whether usopp's weapon is a DF or not, I can't remember if it was confirmed, it may eat it, and usopp will have fire power!
@Стрелок:
Once again, no matter what stupid "arguments" you will say, the fact is that Sanji won't eat it, stop spamming the thread.
No matter how many times you say that it's a fact, it's not. Spamming? This is exactly what this thread is for.
@MiyamotoMusashi:
1.) That would not be swimming
2.) Of course he was willing because it would mean that he could peep even more, the Mera Mera does not provide that service
1.) Well, how would he even touch her boobs if they were swimming normally?
2.) He could turn into a candle flame or a fire in a fireplace.
IT IS A FACT. Just because you can't understand this doesn't change anything.
This thread is for having an interesting discussion, not for "hei gaiz wat if Sanji eats it lol YOLO XDDDDD".
@Стрелок:
IT IS A FACT. Just because you can't understand this doesn't change anything.
This thread is for having an interesting discussion, not for "hei gaiz wat if Sanji eats it lol YOLO XDDDDD".
I could say "Sabo is dead. 100% fact." but that doesn't make it so. And guess what? People find different things interesting. You don't have to read the thread if you don't want to.
Yes, but the difference here is that my statement is right and yours is wrong. And I am sure that noone finds repeting one thing 100 times interesting. You are not better than all the people who say "what if Luffy eats it LOL".
I like how you ignored the last few pages where people explained why he won't eat it and decided to take a shit in the thread. If you are a troll, you are a pretty bad one.
@Стрелок:
Yes, but the difference here is that my statement is right and yours is wrong. And I am sure that noone finds repeting one thing 100 times interesting. You are not better than all the people who say "what if Luffy eats it LOL".
I like how you ignored the last few pages where people explained why he won't eat it and decided to take a shit in the thread. If you are a troll, you are a pretty bad one.
I'm sorry but do you understand the definitions of the words you are using? Listing reasons just adds support to a theory or hypothesis. At this point anything could happen with the fruit. The word you are looking for is "irrational". It, in your opinion would be irrational for someone like sanji to eat the fruit. This does not dictate it as fact, just unlikely.
I'm sorry but do you understand the definitions of the words you are using? Listing reasons just adds support to a theory or hypothesis. At this point anything could happen with the fruit. The word you are looking for is "irrational". It, in your opinion would be irrational for someone like sanji to eat the fruit. This does not dictate it as fact, just unlikely.
Stories (including manga) have to follow some sort of logical developement. And you are wrong. Not anything could happen. It's clear than you don't understand how storytelling works. Come on, I have said this at least 10 times already. It's a fact that Sanji won't eat it.
A very smart man once said:
@Стрелок:
I don't always know what will happen. But if you pay attention to the manga, you could guess some future developements. The same way I knew that Law was on Punk Hazard before he was revealed or that Buggy became a Shichi. The same way people guessed that Luffy will use Momonosuke to fly or that CC has Monet's heart or the blind guy from last chapter was Fujitora, etc.
When a manga is coherent and well-written (without plot-holes) it is possible to "guess" what will happen.
@Стрелок:
Let's put it this way: Sanji won't eat it, for the same reason why Luffy won't kill his crew while they sleep: it will be out of character, stupid, it wouldn't bring anything good, it would ruin the story, etc.
1.) That would not be swimming
2.) Of course he was willing because it would mean that he could peep even more, the Mera Mera does not provide that service
No, instead it provides extra power, which would be a lot more handy then perving around.
I'm not saying Sanji will eat the fruit, or that I want him to, but I'm just saying there is a possibility he could. Doubt it though.
@Стрелок:
Stories (including manga) have to follow some sort of logical developement. And you are wrong. Not anything could happen. It's clear than you don't understand how storytelling works. Come on, I have said this at least 10 times already. It's a fact that Sanji won't eat it.
A very smart man once said:
You give yourself too much credit. There is no logical, mathmatical formula that dictates what happens in one piece. All of your arguments are about rationality, not fact or fiction. Clearly you just want to flaunt your arrogance rather than your intelligence, but I don't have time to bully a boy.
@Стрелок:
And I am sure that noone finds repeting one thing 100 times interesting.
You mean like this?
! @Стрелок:
! > Sanji won't eat it.
! @Стрелок:
! > Sanji is not a possible option.
! @Стрелок:
! > Can you read? Sanji won't eat a DF.
! @Стрелок:
! > Possiblity doesn't mean anything in manga. And the fact is that Sanji won't eat it, so you are wrong.
! @Стрелок:
! > I am not trolling, you are just ignoring the facts. And you don't understand how story-telling. Sanji WON'T EAT IT. Is this so hard to understand?
One more time: Sanji won't eat it. He simply won't. Don't post any more bullshit about possiblity.
! @Стрелок:
! > This has nothing to do with anything. Just accept the fact that Sanji won't eat it.
! @Стрелок:
! > I don't care if people will accept it or not. The FACT is that Sanji WON'T eat it. It's not really that hard to understand that.
Since you're obviously trolling, I'll stop replying.
You give yourself too much credit. There is no logical, mathmatical formula that dictates what happens in one piece. All of your arguments are about rationality, not fact or fiction. Clearly you just want to flaunt your arrogance rather than your intelligence, but I don't have time to bully a boy.
It's nice how you started to act tough insted of actually proving one of my points wrong. Not that you can.
There is actually a "logical formula"(it is called reading the manga and paying attention) that can sometimes predict what will happen and I gave you examples for that.
And if someone posts a theory that Luffy will kill his crew while they sleep, what do you say to him? "Nice theory bro, it's totally possible"?
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You mean like this?
Since you're obviously trolling, I'll stop replying.
It's funny because you have posted this "theory" numerous times, but I guess it's not your fault at all.
And since you have nothing of value to say, you'll stop replying. You won't be missed.
@Стрелок:
It's nice how you started to act tough insted of actually proving one of my points wrong. Not that you can.
Nice bluff princess, but you didn't provide any points to prove wrong, just reitterating the points I originally challenged. Predictibility does not default to factual, seriously this is like high school level science.
@Стрелок:
There is actually a "logical formula"(it is called reading the manga and paying attention) that can sometimes predict what will happen and I gave you examples for that.
I could read 700 chapters, 700 times, and still wouldn't know what happened during the void century, which by your logic I could predict by "paying" attention. I also couldn't predict when Luffy is going to meet Dragon, who the new admirals are, or what the fuck the island of punk hazard was until it was revealed to us.
Again you're trying to use big words (I guess for you) and not understanding how stupid you sound. It would be irrational for sanji to eat the fruit. That is a statement, not mine, or anyone's opinion I know about. But no impossible. Your entire argument is based off an assumption of how the author has portrayed the character to us, which would then make it predictable. A lot of people laughed at the fact law/luffy would ever form an alliance, because it's not luffy's style. Yet here we are.
Nothing you have said is factual, everything you have said is your assumption based on your interpretation of the character.
@Стрелок:
And if someone posts a theory that Luffy will kill his crew while they sleep, what do you say to him? "Nice theory bro, it's totally possible"?
If oda wants to take the story that way it's improbable, but not impossible.
You're out of your league in this department.
@Стрелок:
It's nice how you started to act tough insted of actually proving one of my points wrong. Not that you can.
There is actually a "logical formula"(it is called reading the manga and paying attention) that can sometimes predict what will happen and I gave you examples for that.
And if someone posts a theory that Luffy will kill his crew while they sleep, what do you say to him? "Nice theory bro, it's totally possible"?
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It's funny because you have posted this "theory" numerous times, but I guess it's not your fault at all.
And since you have nothing of value to say, you'll stop replying. You won't be missed.
I'm sure every One Piece fan out there reads and pays attention to it. That's one thing, everyone is going to have different interpretations of what's going on; especially for future plot that is still in up in the air. All your doing is being rude, shooting down someone's thought or theory without showing curiosity to why he believes it will happen. As stated before, this a thread about the different paths the plot can take.
Oh we are going in circles now…
But I should have been aware that something like this would happen (see nakama thread)... I'm sorry mods for making such idea for a thread like this one.
Oh we are going in circles now…
But I should have been aware that something like this would happen (see nakama thread)... I'm sorry mods for making such idea for a thread like this one.
Are you doing this on purpose as a symbol for the entire thread?
Nice bluff princess, but you didn't provide any points to prove wrong, just reitterating the points I originally challenged. Predictibility does not default to factual, seriously this is like high school level science.
I could read 700 chapters, 700 times, and still wouldn't know what happened during the void century, which by your logic I could predict by "paying" attention. I also couldn't predict when Luffy is going to meet Dragon, who the new admirals are, or what the fuck the island of punk hazard was until it was revealed to us.
Again you're trying to use big words (I guess for you) and not understanding how stupid you sound. It would be irrational for sanji to eat the fruit. That is a statement, not mine, or anyone's opinion I know about. But no impossible. Your entire argument is based off an assumption of how the author has portrayed the character to us, which would then make it predictable. A lot of people laughed at the fact law/luffy would ever form an alliance, because it's not luffy's style. Yet here we are.
Nothing you have said is factual, everything you have said is your assumption based on your interpretation of the character.
If oda wants to take the story that way it's improbable, but not impossible.
You're out of your league in this department.
1. Relax, sunshine. I posted examples why you can sometimes know what will happen based on the manga. Or you believe that everyone who "guessed" something right used black magic?
2. You should work on your reading comprehension. I specifically said that I don't always know what will happen, only sometimes.
3. "Possibility" as we understand it, doesn't really exist in manga. Like I said, you don't understand story-telling. Oda is a good writer and won't shit on his story in this way.
4. When you call your friends what do you say:
a)I will come tomorrow at five.
b)Unless I get abducted by aliens, or I change my mind or a giant asteroid hits the Earth, I will MAYBE come tomorrow at five.
5.Also check the chapter thread where so many people said that the blind guy was Fujitora. Or they are also wrong, because it wasn't CONFIRMED?
6.In conclusion: you are wrong and I am right. Next time try harder. Not that you can prove something.
Oh joy, another absurd back and forth that goes absolutely nowhere and just repeats itself, taking up space, those are always fun and interesting to read.
I'm not even going to touch the fruit / Sanji issue, but I will weigh in on the, for lack of a better term, 'meta' argument being had here, which I frankly find just as dumb.
First things first, I don't agree with how Comrade Strelok presents his points. That's not to say I disagree with his points themselves, which I often find to be well thought out and on point than many; however, his insistence on his viewpoint being 'fact', and others being 'wrong' comes across as grating, at best.
With that said! All of you arguing semantics with him are just as bad, in your own way; if not worse, considering he is at least on topic, if antagonistically so. I believe I've had to try to make this point elsewhere before, but I'll reiterate it here: everyone knows that, so long as something hasn't happened in the manga, it is not yet, technically speaking, definite fact. This includes, for all how he chooses to phrase things, our dear Comrade Strelok.
That doesn't mean that predictions don't have wildly differing basis to them, though, from completely unfounded speculation and crazy theories, to statements like 'Luffy will become Pirate King by the end of the manga'. Is the latter, strictly speaking, completely assured? Of course not, I can no more see into the future than anyone else. Yet somehow I have difficulty imagining anyone objecting, 'But Panda Bear, that's not a fact!' if I were to make such a statement.
Luffy will be forced to eat it and survive!
@Panda:
Oh joy, another absurd back and forth that goes absolutely nowhere and just repeats itself, taking up space, those are always fun and interesting to read.
I'm not even going to touch the fruit / Sanji issue, but I will weigh in on the, for lack of a better term, 'meta' argument being had here, which I frankly find just as dumb.
First things first, I don't agree with how Comrade Strelok presents his points. That's not to say I disagree with his points themselves, which I often find to be well thought out and on point than many; however, his insistence on his viewpoint being 'fact', and others being 'wrong' comes across as grating, at best.
With that said! All of you arguing semantics with him are just as bad, in your own way; if not worse, considering he is at least on topic, if antagonistically so. I believe I've had to try to make this point elsewhere before, but I'll reiterate it here: everyone knows that, so long as something hasn't happened in the manga, it is not yet, technically speaking, definite fact. This includes, for all how he chooses to phrase things, our dear Comrade Strelok.
That doesn't mean that predictions don't have wildly differing basis to them, though, from completely unfounded speculation and crazy theories, to statements like 'Luffy will become Pirate King by the end of the manga'. Is the latter, strictly speaking, completely assured? Of course not, I can no more see into the future than anyone else. Yet somehow I have difficulty imagining anyone objecting, 'But Panda Bear, that's not a fact!' if I were to make such a statement.
I guess you have the right to disagree with the future facts. But this is just basic story-telling. If you someone post "Captaion Kuro will kill Luffy and become the captain of the Strawhats", what will be your honest opinion on his theory?
The same people who were getting annoyed with posts like "Luffy could eat it" and called them dumb, now post "Sanji will eat it" and get insulted when someonce called them dumb.
Or when everyone who said that the blind guy isn't Fujitora was mocked in the chapter thread (I am not saying he isn't). Isn't this a bit of a double standard?