Oda says that food sticks to metal and nobody needs further explanation.
How would you explain spoon sticking to Vergos face smartass?
Oda says that spoon sticks to Vergos face and nobody needs further explanation
Oda says that food sticks to metal and nobody needs further explanation.
How would you explain spoon sticking to Vergos face smartass?
Oda says that spoon sticks to Vergos face and nobody needs further explanation
It might be the case. But on the contrary it isn't baseless to think that he has one. I, for one, really took it as a given.
But the majority doesn't give a thought about it. But his way of recovering from Sanji's attack and then the comment came after that from Sanji is a good reason enough. And he got big for no reason? I really wouldn't like it if there was a haki mode where it's users go 'breaahhhh i'm big now'. I'd like to think it's related to his fruit.
@Devil:
Tekkai + Haki = this ( or something like that, he was just tough ). I would bet all my life's savings on Vergo not having any kind of fruit.
Problem is… Sanji knows both, so he should be able to know it without "asking" this
Of course it can be.
For me it for sure it wasnt about Vergos haki as Sanji knows well and was shown using CoA of some decent level as there are visible clashes of haki effects during parts of his short fight with Vergo.
This figure of speach and fact that Vergo didnt answer(beside plenty of other things like spoon sticking, food sticking, problems with memory- Vergos favs are Hamburgers and those often contains lots of heavy metals and heavy metal poisoning over time gives person heavy problems with memory, Vergo eats burgers every day as Oda said in SBS, and some more stuff ) makes me think that its somehow pointing to devil fruit more than Rokushiki or haki.Devil G- Okay :p How much do you have? ;] Oda often makes us think one thing just to play with us, it can be case here. Oh I like this subject, people are often so strongly against this idea but who can disprove it really. Lets wait till Laws flashback when we will see more of Vergo- how he traumatized kid Law.
That is pretty much what I think. Very close to it.
Of course it can be.
For me it for sure it wasnt about Vergos haki as Sanji knows well and was shown using CoA of some decent level as there are visible clashes of haki effects during parts of his short fight with Vergo.
This figure of speach and fact that Vergo didnt answer(beside plenty of other things like spoon sticking, food sticking, problems with memory- Vergos favs are Hamburgers and those often contains lots of heavy metals and heavy metal poisoning over time gives person heavy problems with memory, Vergo eats burgers every day as Oda said in SBS, and some more stuff ) makes me think that its somehow pointing to devil fruit more than Rokushiki or haki.
Again, read this.
And you talk like Vergo's amnesia is not just one of those quirks Oda tends to come up for his characters.
And there's already a fruit that turns its user into metal, two in fact.
Vergo had metal paramecia :p All of Doflamingo pirates are Devil Fruit user and Vergo isnt any different.
We seen when Sanji blocked there was no clash of haki effect like we seen plenty of times when for example Chinjao gotten KOed by Luffy.
So it was leg vs leg and Vergo being metal paramecia won.
This would explain spoon sticking to him and Sanji asking him if he is made out of metal(Vergo ignored Sanjis direct question and attacked him)
I'm fairly certain that Sanji's comment is in reference to Vergo's Tekkai ability, not any form of Devil Fruit. Vergo displays knowledge of Rokushiki several times in the arc (Shigan and Geppou specifically), and although it's never explicitly said, it would not be far fetched to say he also knows Tekkai. Sanji also states something along the lines of "our captain hates people like you," referencing their past encounters with Rokushiki users.
EDIT: Also Tekkai translates to "Iron Body" so that's what the phrase "made of metal" refers to.
They're magnetised and yet Vergo was in a place full of metal but the only one that stuck to him were the ones that he was too close with? Understandable, those the burger also posses this property?
Not all have to be magnetised - check once more link that I provided.
Look in here- Its theory not something confirmed so I cant give more detailed explanations. We have something like Van der Waals forces working between food and metals http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_der_Waals_force
As for food:
http://www.scienceofcooking.com/why_food_sticks.htm Protein-rich foods are particularly prone to sticking because the proteins can form complexes with metal atoms, such as iron
@GameDragon:
I'm fairly certain that Sanji's comment is in reference to Vergo's Tekkai ability, not any form of Devil Fruit. Vergo displays knowledge of Rokushiki several times in the arc (Shigan and Geppou specifically), and although it's never explicitly said, it would not be far fetched to say he also knows Tekkai. Sanji also states something along the lines of "our captain hates people like you," referencing their past encounters with Rokushiki users.
Wrong- Sanji said that Luffy hates the most people like Vergo because Vergo didnt cared about his own people- G5 marines. As Sanji figured that Vergo is G5 Marines superior yet he tries to kill them so he is the type that Luffy hates the most.
Would Sanji's bones crack from a normal kick? Lack of black armaments may have been an error but as we know COA doesn't have to have black hardening to activate
I once read somewhere that the blackening is a decision that Oda made after haki was already introduced and that post timeskip, everytime someone used haki, it would be shown blackened.
That isn't true?
Again, read this.
And you talk like Vergo's amnesia is not just one of those quirks Oda tends to come up for his characters.
And there's already a fruit that turns its user into metal, two in fact.
Well noone of those two fruits is a "real" metal fruit, so i'm also sticking with vergo having a fruit.
Not all have to be magnetised - check once more link that I provided.
Look in here- Its theory not something confirmed so I cant give more detailed explanations. We have something like Van der Waals forces working between food and metals http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_der_Waals_force
As for food:
http://www.scienceofcooking.com/why_food_sticks.htm Protein-rich foods are particularly prone to sticking because the proteins can form complexes with metal atoms, such as iron
Sweat can also make things stick to the skin.
Well noone of those two fruits is a "real" metal fruit, so i'm also sticking with vergo having a fruit.
I dunno what you mean with "real" metal DF. Both turn the user into metal.
CoA Hardening pretty much makes a "real" metal DF pointless.
Vergo with a metal DF would be just incredibly redundant.
Sanji also states something along the lines of "our captain hates people like you," referencing their past encounters with Rokushiki users.
I am pretty sure that was not what he was refering to.
You would think someone who has devil fruit would used whem fighting.:ninja:
Maybe he forgot he had one.:ninja:
Though it's weird that Doflamingo also forget of said fruit whem he was talking to Law.:ninja:
@.access:
I am pretty sure that was not what he was refering to.
Given the context it's said in, it can only mean a few things. That's what I interpreted it as personally.
I once read somewhere that the blackening is a decision that Oda made after haki was already introduced and that post timeskip, everytime someone used haki, it would be shown blackened.
That isn't true?
I once read somewhere that the blackening is a decision that Oda made after haki was already introduced and that post timeskip, everytime someone used haki, it would be shown blackened.
That isn't true?
We seen two forms of CoA haki usage- "base" use so to say and CoA hardening that Luffy and Vergo shown. Oh and one more like a shield- one that one of Boa sisters shown, Rayleigh with elephant monster before time skip and Sentomaru.
Luffy was said by Sentomaru to use Haki here and we see that electricity-like effect around his punch. http://i27.mangareader.net/one-piece/601/one-piece-2423727.jpg
Its visible also when Sanji fights with Vergo http://i29.mangareader.net/one-piece/681/one-piece-3582971.jpg http://i5.mangareader.net/one-piece/681/one-piece-3582973.jpg
So as you can see there are variations of CoA use, its not as simple as only black fist- CoA haki.
King Cannon you really prefer this and this over saying that its possible for Vergo to be revealed as DF user? Really???
Smiley- even hardest metal would not mean anything against Laws cutting power as he was shown to cut even something as hard seastone chains if I am not mistaken http://i31.mangareader.net/one-piece/677/one-piece-3519153.jpg so only Vergos haki should be worth of being mentioned in that situation imo.
The ligtning shit was already done pre skip even without haki…
Given the context it's said in, it can only mean a few things. That's what I interpreted it as personally.
He probably meant Vergo killing his underlings.
The ligtning shit was already done pre skip even without haki…
It was in some places but why you call it shit as its one of very few indications of CoA haki usage for people reading manga?
It was in some places but why you call it shit as its one of very few indications of CoA haki usage for people reading manga?
Cuz it isn't stated or mentioned so far… People just want to see it that way.
I see it more as immense impact effects as pre skip
Franky must have used haki that time against Fukurou,when he fueled up with cola!omg!
Cuz it isn't stated or mentioned so far… People just want to see it that way.
I see it more as immense impact effects as pre skip
Not everything has to be put on platter really. Maybe its you that dont want to see it and not people wanting to see something.
You can see that effect even when Jozu blocked Mihavks slash http://i12.mangareader.net/one-piece/553/one-piece-535508.jpg. Oda is using it every time that CoA users are fighting with somebody.
Like here around Wadasumi hand- its not coincidence. And after Koala being named as Fishman Karate user nobody should say anything about fishmen not being able to learn haki.
Franky must have used haki that time against Fukurou,when he fueled up with cola!omg!
Instead of making fun you could add up something of any value to subject. Give more examples of that kind of effect.
Not everything has to be put on platter really.
You can see that effect even when Jozu blocked Mihavks slash http://i12.mangareader.net/one-piece/553/one-piece-535508.jpg. Oda is using it every time that CoA users are fighting with somebody.
Like here around Wadasumi hand- its not coincidence. And after Koala being named as Fishman Karate user nobody should say anything about fishmen not being able to learn haki.
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I talked about pre skip… They have been the same exact effects in fights like in EL
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2522-5/one-piece/chapter-415.html
Sanji dat since EL haki user… Same for Franky, Zoro and other characters.
But maybe they used haki without knowing it... And Franky still does not know it
Seriously... This sparks are always use when someone is hit hard with an immenese impact... and when someone feels pain
Like this
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2591-15/one-piece/chapter-484.html
I talked about pre skip… They have been the same exact effects in fights like in EL
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2522-5/one-piece/chapter-415.html
Sanji dat since EL haki user… Same for Franky, Zoro and other characters.
But maybe they used haki without knowing it... And Franky still does not know it
Seriously... This sparks are always use when someone is hit hard with an immenese impact
Its quite possible that Diable Jambe will be explained as form of haki. Oda has lots planned ahead so he could have been having some idea on drawing haki back then.
Maybe Franky didnt used it but it was just how it looks when big force hits on haki :p Who knows if tekkai isnt kind of haki utilisation. If Enel had CoA and some of his priests had powers like burning lance( I dont remember this very well) so who knows if Lucci wasnt hurting Luffy with punches because of haki, not pure strength.
Its quite possible that Diable Jambe will be explained as form of haki. Oda has lots planned ahead so he could have been having some idea on drawing haki back then.
Maybe Franky didnt used it but it was just how it looks when big force hits on haki :p Who knows if tekkai isnt kind of haki utilisation. If Enel had CoA and some of his priests had powers like burning lance( I dont remember this very well) so who knows if Lucci wasnt hurting Luffy with punches because of haki, not pure strength.
So we simply should think that everyone had used haki pre skip… OK.
Do as you please
So we simply should think that everyone had used haki pre skip… OK.
Do as you please
Gosh, not all. Just some of top strawhats enemies. Is it such a strain? I dont think so really.
Its quite possible that Diable Jambe will be explained as form of haki. Oda has lots planned ahead so he could have been having some idea on drawing haki back then.
Maybe Franky didnt used it but it was just how it looks when big force hits on haki :p Who knows if tekkai isnt kind of haki utilisation. If Enel had CoA and some of his priests had powers like burning lance( I dont remember this very well) so who knows if Lucci wasnt hurting Luffy with punches because of haki, not pure strength.
Nah they weren't using haki. they were using Martial Arts.
Y'all need to calm down… Here a little stuff to ease y'all minds.
King Cannon you really prefer this http://sd4kids.skepdic.com/graphics/boymagnet.jpg and thishttp://sd4kids.skepdic.com/graphics/magneticman.jpg over saying that its possible for Vergo to be revealed as DF user? Really???
Well, why not? One Piece isn't a serious manga. It's filled with weird stuff like that. Remember how Kin'emon is able to speak through farts?
Y'all need to calm down… Here a little stuff to ease y'all minds.
damn, adrenaline rush much? oh sanji <3 <3 <3 <3
I can't wait till he takes down an admiral.
Well, why not? One Piece isn't a serious manga. It's filled with weird stuff like that. Remember how Kin'emon is able to speak through farts?
right? or the guy who fights with his afro hair?
Y'all need to calm down… Here a little stuff to ease y'all minds.
Nothing will ever top DragonWarriors AMV about Sanji… But it was before your time and years and now it is taken down everywhere...
But this one si fantastic as well
Well, why not? One Piece isn't a serious manga. It's filled with weird stuff like that. Remember how Kin'emon is able to speak through farts?
Yea I remember.. Its one of most crazy(bit supid though) special perks in One Piece.
But still its not counter in any way to all that I wrote. So Ill stick to my idea and time will tell.
damn, adrenaline rush much? oh sanji <3 <3 <3 <3
I can't wait till he takes down an admiral.
me I can't wait to see him fight Kizaru, I know it will happen sometime.
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Nothing will ever top DragonWarriors AMV about Sanji… But it was before your time and years and now it is taken down everywhere...
But this one si fantastic as well
maybe, but this a tribute not AMV:ninja:
me I can't wait to see him fight Kizaru, I know it will happen sometime.
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maybe, but this a tribute not AMV:ninja:
Ok, Ok sorry^^
BTW Sanji won't fight an admiral cuz Jinbe will take his spot :ninja:
Not all have to be magnetised - check once more link that I provided.
Look in here- Its theory not something confirmed so I cant give more detailed explanations. We have something like Van der Waals forces working between food and metals http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_der_Waals_force
As for food:
http://www.scienceofcooking.com/why_food_sticks.htm Protein-rich foods are particularly prone to sticking because the proteins can form complexes with metal atoms, such as iron
Makes sense, which brings me to my next point, can't Tekkai be the metal in this situation?
Makes sense, which brings me to my next point, can't Tekkai be the metal in this situation?
Umm tekkai when he eats? :p
I dont get it.. Sorry
Not everything has to be put on platter really. Maybe its you that dont want to see it and not people wanting to see something.
You can see that effect even when Jozu blocked Mihavks slash http://i12.mangareader.net/one-piece/553/one-piece-535508.jpg. Oda is using it every time that CoA users are fighting with somebody.
Like here around Wadasumi hand- its not coincidence. And after Koala being named as Fishman Karate user nobody should say anything about fishmen not being able to learn haki.
http://i2.mangareader.net/one-piece/639/one-piece-2633689.jpg
Agree with Kishido in this one, this is damage/impact, it has nothing to do with Haki
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Umm tekkai when he eats? :p
I dont get it.. Sorry
He's hard body, If his "Devil Fruit" is the one that allows the food and metals to stick to himself, why can't Tekkai do it instead?
Agree with Kishido in this one, this is damage/impact, it has nothing to do with Haki
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He's hard body, If his "Devil Fruit" is the one that allows the food and metals to stick to himself, why can't Tekkai do it instead?
So you say that he is in constant tekkai and that you prefer constant tekkai even when he eats over him possibly being metal paramecia yes?
So you say that he is in constant tekkai and that you prefer constant tekkai even when he eats over him possibly being metal paramecia yes?
Yes, I do!
He have memory problems, so he probably forgets that he's been using Tekkai
Yes, I do!
He have memory problems, so he probably forgets that he's been using Tekkai
:getlost: well if thats what you think.. We will see in time.
Ok, Ok sorry^^
BTW Sanji won't fight an admiral cuz Jinbe will take his spot :ninja:
People be asking the reason why Oda gave Zoro that scar in the eye and here is the reason, Oda is trying to establish something here- Monster trio- Luffy has both eyes(indicating his the leader here), Zoro only opens his right eye(indicating that he Luffy sideman) and Sanji we only see his left eye(indicating that he's another Luffy sideman). So something has to happen to Jimbie right eye if he wants to take Sanji place.:ninja:
People be asking the reason why Oda gave Zoro that scar in the eye and here is the reason, Oda is trying to establish something here- Monster trio- Luffy has both eyes(indicating his the leader here), Zoro only opens his right eye(indicating that he Luffy sideman) and Sanji we only see his left eye(indicating that he's another Luffy sideman). So something has to happen to Jimbie right eye if he wants to take Sanji place.:ninja:
But Jinbe has a scar like Zoro and Luffy at his eye… So he will take the spot... And he has a never ending growth rate at the same level as Luffy, Ace and Zoro
As Franky and Robin before
still no spoiler…this is getting....hard....
The spoilers will come a couple of hours before the actual chapter(probably:ninja:), so I advice against reading them.
You waited for like 15 days, a 3 to 5 hours should be nothing compared to that ^_^"
The spoilers will come a couple of hours before the actual chapter(probably:ninja:), so I advice against reading them.
You waited for like 15 days, a 3 to 5 hours should be nothing compared to that ^_^"
LOL speak for yourself buddy!
Zoro will open his eyes one day … that day he will use King's Haki
Zoro will open his eyes one day … that day he will use King's Haki
OMG!!! It's so true!..
so..the chapter is tomorrow or the day after?
Find on baidu something but not sure..
lol ban .