I wonder how the tournament will work after all the winners are decided (for the blocks)? Will it be them vs Dofla's guys and if one of Dofla's guys wins will they eat it?
The tournament arc speculation thread
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I wonder how the tournament will work after all the winners are decided (for the blocks)? Will it be them vs Dofla's guys and if one of Dofla's guys wins will they eat it?
The Answer is simple and obvious…at least for me :D. Winner A, B, C and D Battle Royal against Senior Pink, Dellinger, Lao G and Machvise. The Flamingos will work together, so i guess, that the Block winner have to work together too. If a Block winner wins the Battle Royal, then he has to fight Diamante. If a Flamingo wins, the Tournament ends.
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I think Oda will design the tournament so that Luffy won't have to fight Burgess in a 1v1. I think it's too soon to see how the SHs stack up against BB. Maybe Luffy will fight and beat Burgess, but it won't be a direct match like Luffy vs. Lucci.
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@The:
Every Shichibukai TO DATE, other than Moriah, but his time is coming with Kaido (you watch), and Blackbeard, who most never considered him to be a Shichibukai to begin with, has helped the Strawhat Crew out in some way, shape or form.
Well, Black Beard and Luffy did kind of help each other back at Impel Down.
Black Beard kept Shiryuu and a good chunk of Impel Down's forces from going after Luffy and company, and Luffy cleaned the path to LV 6 for him.
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might just use a standard tournament layout, 8 people total pass, random name draws, if DD families meet they let the stronger person pass. elimination until there's 1 winner who fights Diamante.
@The:
How strong you think Diamante is?
I personally think DD can beat Burgess, Diamante would be about even to Burgess, and Luffy's probably slightly under or equal to both ( improvement before the big boss, right?)
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How strong you think Diamante is?
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Altough I would love this tournament to end porperly, I hardly doubt it.
Or Luffy wich would be very dissapointing (for me at least), or he goes and defeats three powerfull char (Don chinjao, Burgess and Diamante, we could even include bartolomeo here) which would put him in another level of strenght incresing the gap with Zoro and Sanji and even Law (Whow hadn't defeated anybody really important lately, at least from my point of view).Dont misundertand me, I do know that there is a Difference between their powers, but I dont think is that big at this moment.
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@The:
How strong you think Diamante is?
This strong .
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Maybe luffy will be disqualified or sumtin' will stop luffy to fight.
And Rebecca (the lady gladiator) will win and obtain the Mera Mera no Mi.
Then, Luffy will invite Rebecca to join his crew after they both defeat Joker.(i'm a newbie here, sorry for my bad english)
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Maybe luffy will be disqualified or sumtin' will stop luffy to fight.
And Rebecca (the lady gladiator) will win and obtain the Mera Mera no Mi.
Then, Luffy will invite Rebecca to join his crew after they both defeat Joker.(i'm a newbie here, sorry for my bad english)
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I think Luffy will just beat Bartolomeo ,Burgess,and Diamante ; and win the coliseum .I don't know what Luffy will do to mera-mera fruit though ,maybe he will give it to rebecca (luffy will say :"Rebecca,I think ace's fruit will be good if it's used by you")
@ShadowTassadar:Altough I would love this tournament to end porperly, I hardly doubt it.
Or Luffy wich would be very dissapointing (for me at least), or he goes and defeats three powerfull char (Don chinjao, Burgess and Diamante, we could even include bartolomeo here) which would put him in another level of strenght incresing the gap with Zoro and Sanji and even Law (Whow hadn't defeated anybody really important lately, at least from my point of view).Dont misundertand me, I do know that there is a Difference between their powers, but I dont think is that big at this moment.
In my opinion,Luffy ables to beat three of them doesn't make him really that imbalances against Zoro,Sanji,Law
Law may only beat Vergo,but he defeated Vergo clean hit ; and we haven't seen the full limit of LawZoro,this guy was like the new protagonist since Timeskip ;he got really crazy power-up and he never been seen get troubled when fighting with enemies as far as I remember (except the cool brother fight :p,but that didn't count I think) and he's only like using 1 sword style to do those duper slashes.So we haven't seen the full limit of Zoro,either.
Sanji,ah..this guy is really embarassing on the NW ,but since Sanji is always implied to be as strong as Zoro,then the same rules goes for Sanji
Diamante might look strong,but not as strong as DD I think,which makes him around Zoro/Sanji
Bartolomeo just got a trolling power,IMO if Luffy could figure the solution then beating Bartolomeo will not really be a big problem
Burgess …..hmmmm he's the first commander of a yonkou
But by seeing how BB said Burgess couldn't beat Ace (even though he was teaming up with the sniper) and assuming ace was as strong as BB ; I think the difference between Burgess and BB is quite big , and it's quite OK for luffy to beat burgess -
(i'm a newbie here, sorry for my bad english)
Sorry for my bad Spanish.
por favor me perdone~
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Maybe luffy will be disqualified or sumtin' will stop luffy to fight.
And Rebecca (the lady gladiator) will win and obtain the Mera Mera no Mi.
Then, Luffy will invite Rebecca to join his crew after they both defeat Joker.(i'm a newbie here, sorry for my bad english)
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Maybe luffy will be disqualified or sumtin' will stop luffy to fight.
And Rebecca (the lady gladiator) will win and obtain the Mera Mera no Mi.
Then, Luffy will invite Rebecca to join his crew after they both defeat Joker.(i'm a newbie here, sorry for my bad english)
even tho we don't know rebecca's strenght, I just can't believe she'll beat burguess and all the big fishs
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I believe once luffy blows his cover in the middle of tournament it will turn into caos with Doflamingos men trying to capture him and oder people attacking him and the tournament wont officially have a winner.
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This tournament will probably not be finished. Fujitora is going to attack but the question is when he is going to do that
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This tournament will probably not be finished. Fujitora is going to attack but the question is when he is going to do that
Probably during the fight between Luffy and Jesus
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Probably during the fight between Luffy and Jesus
i think luffy could beat jesus i dont seem that strong to me, i think he is about vergos strength or something and the same with diamante… I wonder if he is the vice captain of Doflas "crew" (it's more like a kingdom) ....
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i think luffy could beat jesus i dont seem that strong to me, i think he is about vergos strength or something and the same with diamante… I wonder if he is the vice captain of Doflas "crew" (it's more like a kingdom) ....
hes not so strong? He killed his block in a instance..
I think he would defeat vergo with 1 hit
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hes not so strong? He killed his block in a instance..
I think he would defeat vergo with 1 hit
Your fanboyism is too much, since Jesus appeared you've been saying the same stuff over n over again "Jesus wiped out his block in an instance" which is full of fodders(Luffy can do better with COC) but going as far as saying he will one hit Vergo? Dude just just ….
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Your fanboyism is too much, since Jesus appeared you've been saying the same stuff over n over again "Jesus wiped out his block in an instance" which is full of fodders(Luffy can do better with COC) but going as far as saying he will one hit Vergo? Dude just just ….
Dude, you shouldnt pay attention to him, he always pulls the most random bullshit
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hes not so strong? He killed his block in a instance..
I think he would defeat vergo with 1 hit
as the other guy pointed out, all in jesus block were total fodder… And remember against ace 2 years ago?? he could lift a house yes, but i dont think he is so strong as he can beat Vergo in one hit... We don't even know if he can use haki...
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Everyone is severely underestimating Burgess me thinks, it isnt even funny. Burgess is the Diamond Jozu, the Marco (if you're going by division instead of fighting style), of the Blackbeard Pirates.
And also. It doesn't matter if Burgess took down almost nothing but fodder in his Block. Luffy will be taking down pretty much nothing but fodder in his Block, excluding Chinjao, Sai, and Boo (so far). Does that mean he's weak? No. But by some of the logic being tossed around, yes it does.
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@The:
Everyone is severely underestimating Burgess me thinks, it isnt even funny. Burgess is the Diamond Jozu of the Blackbeard Pirates.
Nop I didnt underestimate him, hes 1st commander of a yonko, he cant be weak, actually, hes got to be really strong, and id be a little upset if luffy ended up beating him in the tournament, he shouldnt be ready for this just now IMO.
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Nop I didnt underestimate him, hes 1st commander of a yonko, he cant be weak, actually, hes got to be really strong, and id be a little upset if luffy ended up beating him in the tournament, he shouldnt be ready for this just now IMO.
Why shouldn't Luffy be ready for Jesus?
You do realize that Luffy will be fighting DD soon right and it will make perfect sense for Luffy to beat up Jesus a little, so BB can start hunting the SHs as well or sent some ships to destroy them
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Why shouldn't Luffy be ready for Jesus?
You do realize that Luffy will be fighting DD soon right and it will make perfect sense for Luffy to beat up Jesus a little, so BB can start hunting the SHs as well or sent some ships to destroy them
Honnestly, I don't have any arguments to counter, so ill just say that being the second island the sh's get to in the new world, I just don't feel like the time to face a yonko's 1st commander as come. One of the strongest shichibukai on his island tho, seems more fitting to me. Thats it.
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I'd really like to see Luffy bring him to his knees, but that's asking a bit too much, really.. I can't actually see him getting more than a punch or two in (if he even gets the chance) before something interrupts the match. At the same time, I kinda get the feeling that Oda's going to have Burgess fodderize someone that will give Luffy a hard time..
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Why shouldn't Luffy be ready for Jesus?
You do realize that Luffy will be fighting DD soon right and it will make perfect sense for Luffy to beat up Jesus a little, so BB can start hunting the SHs as well or sent some ships to destroy them
The problem is that I think he actually might be able to put up a fight against Jesus, but I reserved Jesus, in my mind, as a opponent for Sanji much later in the story, so I don't want to see a fight between Luffy and Jesus now.
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The problem is that I think he actually might be able to put up a fight against Jesus, but I reserved, in my mind, Jesus as a opponent for Sanji, much later in the story, so I don't want to see a fight between Luffy and Jesus now.
I see Burgess as an opponent for Jimbei or Franky. I'm willing to bet that Vasco Shot will be Sanji's opponent.
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I can see Vasco Shot as Franky's opponent to be honest, but I can also see Burgess being his opponent too.
I could also see San Juan Wolf (a member people seemingly forget; weird, since he's enormous) be the opponent of (monster point) Chopper, but then there's Doc Q and Stronger.
Also. Let's just say the Strawhat Crew ends up with a "dirty dozen" (13) as their crew count. Do you think the Blackbeard Pirates will get…2 to 3 more (in the New World) MAIN members to counteract it?
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Personally I don't think Burguess is stronger than luffy to me it seems as most of you guys underestimate the straw hats strength, I think luffy is around admiral level and that he is fighting fujitora in this ark to show it. And in the tournament I don't think it matters much if Burguess gets defeated by luffy since Blackbeard is hunting for powerful devil fruits, if Burguess gets defeated now he can still appear in the future with a devil fruit power.
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Burgess would hopefully beat Luffy right now. It's going to be interesting to see how BB 1st mate fight seriously.
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I think luffy is around admiral level and that he is fighting fujitora in this ark to show it.
lol .
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I think Luffy is Yonko Division Commander level (Marco, Diamond Jozu, Jesus Burgess), but not Admiral, Fleet Admiral, or Yonko level yet. I don't think he's the level of some of these "off-shoot" characters either; like Rayleigh (former Roger Pirates crew member), like Garp (former Vice Admiral), Sengoku (former Fleet Admiral), and Mihawk (Shichibukai).
The level he's at is not a bad level to be at strength-wise, and it still allows for a good degree of growth throughout the rest of the series.
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Marco and Jozu were strong enough to hold back kizaru and aokiji in marineford and this is as strong as I see luffy maybe slightly stronger wich is why I think he can take on fujitora who I see as weaker than kizaru an aokiji . As for burgess I doubt is on the same level or that he can take luffy on, as it is luffy already declare war to big mom and is in process on declaring war on kaidou so I don't think there is anything wrong with him beating the shit out of Burgess and sending his mask to Blackbeard with a note that says "I'm coming for you".
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I bet 1 million dollars Fujitora is stronger than Kizaru.
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My bet:
Zoro (swordsman) vs. Fujitora (swordsman w/ devil fruit)
Sanji (kicker) vs. Kizaru (kicker w/ devil fruit)
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I doubt there will be a fight against all the admirals.
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I doubt there will be a fight against all the admirals.
At the end of the series there will be, more than likely.
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I bet 1 billion that kizaru is stronger fujitora
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Marco and Jozu were strong enough to hold back kizaru and aokiji in marineford and this is as strong as I see luffy maybe slightly stronger wich is why I think he can take on fujitora who I see as weaker than kizaru an aokiji . As for burgess I doubt is on the same level or that he can take luffy on, as it is luffy already declare war to big mom and is in process on declaring war on kaidou so I don't think there is anything wrong with him beating the shit out of Burgess and sending his mask to Blackbeard with a note that says "I'm coming for you".
Your Luffy fan wanking is getting out of hand. He is not at Marco or Jozu's level yet…that is absurd. Luffy is not a top tier, he still has a lot of room to grow.
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@The:
At the end of the series there will be, more than likely.
its possible ,but we are of topic we should talk about the tournament.
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Marco and Jozu were strong enough to hold back kizaru and aokiji in marineford and this is as strong as I see luffy maybe slightly stronger wich is why I think he can take on fujitora who I see as weaker than kizaru an aokiji . As for burgess I doubt is on the same level or that he can take luffy on, as it is luffy already declare war to big mom and is in process on declaring war on kaidou so I don't think there is anything wrong with him beating the shit out of Burgess and sending his mask to Blackbeard with a note that says "I'm coming for you".
lol i see fujitora being 2nd strongest amiral to date behind akainu
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the thing about how powerful characters are is that everyone sees it different and there is no actual way to be sure unless they fight each other.so lets all just agree to disagree.
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To be honest, if they weren't both admirals I'd be really looking forward to them fighting, due to the amount of physics-nerdyness involved.
Though the smart money is on Kizaru there, as Fuji's DF probably has no effect on the guy made of light. Doesn't necessarily make him stronger though.
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To be honest, if they weren't both admirals I'd be really looking forward to them fighting, due to the amount of physics-nerdyness involved.
Though the smart money is on Kizaru there, as Fuji's DF probably has no effect on the guy made of light. Doesn't necessarily make him stronger though.
If Fuji does have a gravity-based Paramecia fruit, which seems pretty likely, then Kizaru would lose for sure.
The reason why I say Fuji having a gravity-based Paramecia is pretty likely is because of what we've seen him do so far + his name "Fujitora" has the word "purple" in it, and gravity-based abilities in manga/anime are 9 times out of 10 represented by the color purple.
He could also have a pressure-based Paramecia Fruit though, which, if strong enough, pressure can even stop light. Some pressures in the Universe are so strong they can stop light from moving.
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@The:
I bet 1 million dollars Fujitora is stronger than Kizaru.
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My bet:
Zoro (swordsman) vs. Fujitora (swordsman w/ devil fruit)
Sanji (kicker) vs. Kizaru (kicker w/ devil fruit)
Jinbei (puncher) vs 3rd, currently unnamed Admiral (puncher w/ devil fruit)Agreed, Fujitora is going to be stronger simply due to the fact that Zoro will end up fighting him. Kizaru is too cool to care though haha
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I don't feel the tournament is going to go all the way through I think it will be interrupted by the marines (or another source) in some way or form.
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maybe we might soon see a fight: Zoro and Sanji vs Kizaru with his light speed kicks and light sword.
Nothing beats a teamwork between Zoro and Sanji lol
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@The:
If He have a gravity-based Paramecia fruit, which seems pretty likely, then Kizaru would lose for sure.
The reason why I say Fuji having a gravity-based Paramecia is pretty likely is because of what we've seen him do so far + his name "Fujitora" has the word "purple" in it, and gravity-based abilities in manga/anime are 9 times out of 10 represented by the color purple.
He could also have a pressure-based Paramecia Fruit though, which, if strong enough, pressure can even stop light. Some pressures in the Universe are so strong they can stop light from moving.
fujitors wasnt even admiral back then,kizaru was his master.
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fujitors wasnt even admiral back then,kizaru was his master.
Your posts are always great for a bit of comic relief in here.