One Piece: Kaizoku Musou 2 (PS3 and PSVita)

[Kaitouu]

@RobbyBevard:

The story mode was the WORST part of the previous game. The platform levels were awful, being stuck as Luffy the entire game got old, and it meant only Zoro had any selection of levels in the free mode, that the fight matchups were predetermined and repetitive, and some characters got nothing at all… because it was trying to be true to the story... that everyone already knew anyway... but with having to skip large chunks.

(Also, it meant Luffy was OVER-developed. Its great that they squeezed all of his attacks in, but when he has to pinwheel a bonus menu bar to choose between like 12 different supers, attack modes, and has 4 different musou bars while other characters are struggling to reach 2... there's a problem. I can't even imagine how bad it'll be with the addition of haki, hardened mode, phoenix, ufo, and whatever else...

Easy fix is to have pre-gear Luffy, Gear 2 Luffy (with access to gear 3), and Timeskip luffy, each with a different spattering of moves, that would all play slightly different.)

Anyway, unique story and interactions is BETTER, we actually get surprises and new content, rather than seeing a recreated cinema of the same old events AGAIN. Its like the Dragonball and Naruto games... do you really want to go through the exact same story points AGAIN for the 8th time... or would you rather have a new creative fun thing that mixes it up?

You mean Dragonball Z, because Naruto Storm 3 is only going to the war for the first time.

[Rukusho]

RobbyBevard is going in the right direction plus one piece hasn't developed enough for there to be an actual full game in the new world so I think this is the best approach. As for DBZ and Naruto
I think DBZ is completely different since its a fighting game not much to do but fight what they had to do was change the fighting style and make it more unique to dragon ball That's what made it so fun as for Naruto the first storm was hella fun but now it's getting repetitive I tried the demo then I was like " OMG same Moves again and again and again" it's getting boring fast.

[King Cannon]

Intrestingly enough, Moriah is listed on the official site's character page (Law and Smoker were also added). Weren't Perona and Enel there before, though?

What the hell is happening?

[StrawHat]

@King:

Intrestingly enough, Moriah is listed on the official site's character page (Law and Smoker were also added). Weren't Perona and Enel there before, though?

What the hell is happening?

There is a red scroll button to see the other characters.

[King Cannon]

@StrawHat:

There is a red scroll button to see the other characters.

Oh, I see. Thanks.

But does this mean that NPCs will be listed too?

[Devil G.]

@King:

Oh, I see. Thanks.

But does this mean that NPCs will be listed too?

Most likely. At least the most important ones, I guess.

[Cyber-Robin]

Probably if it's a new NPC. They'll list it. Although I think atm we only know of Moriah, Jozu and Vista don't we?

[ludafactor]

To tell you the truth I like the fact of a what if story while seeing some similarities of the stories before the New World. Because I think it's too soon to actually have a real story arc that has to do with the New World since its still too soon. Sabaody Archipelago, Fishman Island & Punk Hazard isn't enough for a new game. So pulling a "naruto generation" is the best bet.

[CaptainAppleJack]

@Cyber-Robin:

Probably if it's a new NPC. They'll list it. Although I think atm we only know of Moriah, Jozu and Vista don't we?

Blackbeard and Magellan also appeared in trailers, but weren't confirmed playable thus far.

[Cyber-Robin]

Ah sorry. I meant new NPCs.

And I'm fairly sure BB was supposed to be playable. At least he better be.

[black-leg jex]

i believe blackbeard is playable. He just hasn't been on a scan yet but i think he's very likely to be on the next one. If that 'leak' on the roster is right he's the only one left to show. I do want to see some NPCs though like tashigi, vivi or Ohm

[Gekko135]

I feel, if yer not gonna do it right, then do something else.

Currently playing through the first game and Robby pretty much nailed it. Always being Luffy gets old. The platforming is terrible. I don't mind quick time events when well placed (like during cutscenes or used minimally), but getting through water seven or impel down is a fucking chore. Having to aim at the right area, the camera automatically changing (like during the magellan fight), carrying Nami… missing a jump and doing it all over again... throwing the ice chunks at the lava during the war... is really awful. All that bullshit just to get to a Musou part of the game. And the story glosses over like everything. I would love to see a dedicated, point by point adaptation of the story complete with cutscenes and manga panel text parts... but Koei wants to put new arcs in their game to boost sales... which I get... but skipping back and forth is dumb.

That being said... I did have a LOT of fun doing the escape of Impel Down with Croc, Jinbei, and Mr. 2. Mowing throw enemies next to croc and jinbei was awesome. There are moments where the series really works in the musou formula... and this was one of them.

[dbznarutofreak]

If Koei is going to take another shot at doing the main story again with the next game they need to be as faithful as they were in Ken's Rage 2. now THAT was a proper fucking anime story in a Musou game.

[ludafactor]

@Gekko135:

I feel, if yer not gonna do it right, then do something else.

Currently playing through the first game and Robby pretty much nailed it. Always being Luffy gets old. The platforming is terrible. I don't mind quick time events when well placed (like during cutscenes or used minimally), but getting through water seven or impel down is a fucking chore. Having to aim at the right area, the camera automatically changing (like during the magellan fight), carrying Nami… missing a jump and doing it all over again... throwing the ice chunks at the lava during the war... is really awful. All that bullshit just to get to a Musou part of the game. And the story glosses over like everything. I would love to see a dedicated, point by point adaptation of the story complete with cutscenes and manga panel text parts... but Koei wants to put new arcs in their game to boost sales... which I get... but skipping back and forth is dumb.

That being said... I did have a LOT of fun doing the escape of Impel Down with Croc, Jinbei, and Mr. 2. Mowing throw enemies next to croc and jinbei was awesome. There are moments where the series really works in the musou formula... and this was one of them.

I know how you feel. Although there are a few people that actually like those meaningless activities. I suggest that they take those out, but keep the cutscenes for only the story mode and add more people other than luffy to roam in certain parts of story mode.
On another note, I wonder how Online Co-Op would be like, I hope they let us add more than just 2 players this time and make missions longer so it wouldn't end so quickly.

[Venomous Warden]

@RobbyBevard:

The story mode was the WORST part of the previous game. The platform levels were awful, being stuck as Luffy the entire game got old, and it meant only Zoro had any selection of levels in the free mode, that the fight matchups were predetermined and repetitive, and some characters got nothing at all… because it was trying to be true to the story... that everyone already knew anyway... but with having to skip large chunks.

(Also, it meant Luffy was OVER-developed. Its great that they squeezed all of his attacks in, but when he has to pinwheel a bonus menu bar to choose between like 12 different supers, attack modes, and has 4 different musou bars while other characters are struggling to reach 2... there's a problem. I can't even imagine how bad it'll be with the addition of haki, hardened mode, phoenix, ufo, and whatever else...

Easy fix is to have pre-gear Luffy, Gear 2 Luffy (with access to gear 3), and Timeskip luffy, each with a different spattering of moves, that would all play slightly different.)

Anyway, unique story and interactions is BETTER, we actually get surprises and new content, rather than seeing a recreated cinema of the same old events AGAIN. Its like the Dragonball and Naruto games... do you really want to go through the exact same story points AGAIN for the 8th time... or would you rather have a new creative fun thing that mixes it up?

I can understand where your coming from, the platforming and only playing as luffy was rough. But i still enjoyed seeing those scenes brought to life, im open to a new story just for the game, but i still have a sinking feeling we might end up with a gundam situation again sooner or later. Where everything is stripped down, while they have a unique story its told through text and in game the characters dont even react like they would on a battlefield, meaning they wont react to certain events and will just spew out the same dialogue in reaction to how many enemies youve taken out. If DWG1 can have a UC mode and a what if scenario i dont see why they couldnt do it here.

[Cyber-Robin]

to be honest. I feel that if I have to go through Marineford yet again I'll scream.

Although to be honest I felt Saboady was better represented in the game than it was in the actual manga. But maybe that was because it bypassed the Supernova filler that was shoehorned in. I wouldn't mind playing through the main plot every other game. Once they got fights for the more minor chars (like Kurobi and Mr. 3 and Cindry/Hogback and all of CP9 so it's at least interesting to play through.)

[Kaitouu]

@Cyber-Robin:

to be honest. I feel that if I have to go through Marineford yet again I'll scream.

Although to be honest I felt Saboady was better represented in the game than it was in the actual manga. But maybe that was because it bypassed the Supernova filler that was shoehorned in. I wouldn't mind playing through the main plot every other game. Once they got fights for the more minor chars (like Kurobi and Mr. 3 and Cindry/Hogback and all of CP9 so it's at least interesting to play through.)

Marineford?

Lol, Enies Lobby was a lot more of a hell.

[Robby]

@BatrozX:

I would rather have the same original story we all love recreated in video game form in order for the game to not alienate newcomers to the series instead of having something "creative" that will just confuse the hell out of anyone who's having their first experience with the series in the game.

When the first game came out I remember reading a couple of articles of people who never saw the series playing the game and explaining how random everything is in the beginning.

So… having the old story is not confusing to new viewers.... except that its random and confusing to new viewers.

The game is NEVER going to have a full blown 10-30 hour story cinema set that would be required to actually showcase the story in any detail at all that would explain it properly to the newcomers. Recreating a few brief moments here and there that resonate with fans that already get the meaning to them is one thing... making it all cohesive and condensing a 70 volume series down into a video game for newbies that captures everything is NEVER going to happen.

Besides, the target audience is Japan. Everyone there knows the story already.

[joesephes]

@RobbyBevard:

Anyway, unique story and interactions is BETTER, we actually get surprises and new content, rather than seeing a recreated cinema of the same old events AGAIN. Its like the Dragonball and Naruto games… do you really want to go through the exact same story points AGAIN for the 8th time... or would you rather have a new creative fun thing that mixes it up?

I feel ya on that one since I have same issues with the Dragonball games. -_-

Honestly, going through the story for like the 100th time is annoying as FUCK. Come on Dimps and Spike, give us something NEW! >:(

[ludafactor]

@joesephes:

I feel ya on that one since I have same issues with the Dragonball games. -_-

Honestly, going through the story for like the 100th time is annoying as FUCK. Come on Dimps and Spike, give us something NEW! >:(

They tried that for DBZ Raging blast 2, but that was a total fail, the gameplay was great and graphics was good but the storyline they try to do by adding the new guy was awful. Dont get me started on Ultimate Tenkaichi.

[Zek]

^ From what I recall, the villain in that isn't necessarily "new." He was from an even older video game that got adapted into an OVA and then remade for the Raging Blast 2…but yeah, I guess I can kinda see what you mean.

I'm really looking forward to the original story, as I agree on how annoying it is to play through the DBZ story in each new game, let alone the fact that the One Piece Story isn't finished yet.

[KaizokuJinbei]

http://gematsu.com/2013/03/one-piece-pirate-warriors-2-pre-orders-top-500000

pre-orders have exceeded 500,000

[andrelguera]

Hey guys, demo on march 7 in PSN Japan..

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/03/04/one-piece-pirate-warriors-2-demo-with-luffy-and-law-coming-on-thursday/

[BatrozX]

@RobbyBevard:

So… having the old story is not confusing to new viewers.... except that its random and confusing to new viewers.
Besides, the target audience is Japan. Everyone there knows the story already.

You misunderstood me(or I possibly didn't explain myself enough). I never said that the story mode in the first game was well made nor that it didn't alienate newcomers; I was saying the exact opposite (hence the reason I gave the example in the first place). The platforming and QTE elements in the first game are horrible IMO. I understand that the game's target audience is Japan and that One Piece is pop culture there, but my point here is that they shouldn't make Japan as their target audience; They should expand it.

@RobbyBevard:

The game is NEVER going to have a full blown 10-30 hour story cinema set that would be required to actually showcase the story in any detail at all that would explain it properly to the newcomers. Recreating a few brief moments here and there that resonate with fans that already get the meaning to them is one thing… making it all cohesive and condensing a 70 volume series down into a video game for newbies that captures everything is NEVER going to happen.

I'm not saying Koei should have the entire story of One Piece be made in videogame form in one sequel and to cover every single detail. Simply to make a story mode with small content (for example just the East blue saga) and improve and add more per sequel (like they do with DW games). Also I disagree, a full blown 10-30 hour story cinema set is not required to showcase the story in detail and to properly explain to newcomers; With some good writing and narration it can be done.

Will it ever happen? I don't know. I'm simply giving my opinion here. I never said that it will be done or that I even expect them to do it, simply that I believe it would be better for everyone if they did add a story mode to introduce newcomers to the world of One Piece and have fans experience the story in videogame form. In conclusion my point is that the series could gain more by making the game accessible to others instead of just the fans; This way everyone who plays the game gains something from the experience.

[Cyber-Robin]

So since the Sony fanboys are going on and on about Vita sales that were mentioned during a Kaizoku Musou 2 conference. Just wondering what this conference was and what information we got from it?

[Hallwacker]

@andrelguera:

Hey guys, demo on march 7 in PSN Japan..

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/03/04/one-piece-pirate-warriors-2-demo-with-luffy-and-law-coming-on-thursday/

Sweet! It better not be region locked.

Edit: Luffy & Law

Fuck yeah!

[dbznarutofreak]

@Hallwacker:

Sweet! It better not be region locked.

Edit: Luffy & Law

Fuck yeah!

If you have a Japanese PSN account you'll be able to download it without a problem.

[Hallwacker]

@dbznarutofreak:

If you have a Japanese PSN account you'll be able to download it without a problem.

That's what I thought, but since the MGR demo was regionlocked who knows what they'll come up with next.

By the way, what does smoker say at 1:58 in this video?

All I can tell is that it's something about eating shit

[LazySketcher]

For anyone interested in the Funimation Dub of One Piece…

Currently there is a petition active for getting a dub version of One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2
As of right now....the support is, admittedly, really small :sad: BUT if anyone really wants this then by all means, go and show some support and sign it ASAP! It'll most likely boost sales overseas as well.
http://www.change.org/petitions/dub-one-piece-pirate-warriors-2-for-the-playstation-3-for-north-america?utm_campaign=twitter_link&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition#share

Share it to anyone else who's willing to sign. I'm for it and I think some of you guys on here might be too. I think we can make this happen.

[Zek]

I doubt a petition will help, if they weren't planning on dubbing it already, I don't think the cast will have time to squeeze yet another project in before release.

[ludafactor]

^ Depends, because the release is in summer which is more than enough time to only "sub" it so they can squeeze in an English Dub. Not to mention that there isn't an official date in the summer for the release. I signed the Petition, meanwhile you guys can email Bandai Namco, if they do get enough request they would "consider" it and hopefully it becomes possible, even if it means waiting for it as a DLC. The email is support@namcobandaigames.com

[GetsugaZoro]

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[DynamiteShikoku]

if it will be dual dub (you can change between jap/eng dub easily in the option menu) then im willing to sign that to help you guys who want the game to be dubbed. but if that will make the eng version of the game only have the eng dub then im against it. many people who watch the anime online prefer jap dub because they already get used to their jap voices and im one of those guys.

[redon]

Kaizoku Musou 2 special event pictures.

http://mantan-web.jp/2013/03/04/20130304dog00m200022000c.html

[LordofHeaven]

@DynamiteShikoku:

if it will be dual dub (you can change between jap/eng dub easily in the option menu) then im willing to sign that to help you guys who want the game to be dubbed. but if that will make the eng version of the game only have the eng dub then im against it. many people who watch the anime online prefer jap dub because they already get used to their jap voices and im one of those guys.

I have to agree with you. I'm also used to jpn dub, so i'm in, if you can change dub easily, like in DBZ: BT-series.

[Hallwacker]

@LazySketcher:

Dub

[Zek]

@DynamiteShikoku:

if it will be dual dub (you can change between jap/eng dub easily in the option menu) then im willing to sign that to help you guys who want the game to be dubbed. but if that will make the eng version of the game only have the eng dub then im against it. many people who watch the anime online prefer jap dub because they already get used to their jap voices and im one of those guys.

Hrm. I find that odd for whatever reason. Perhaps because I'm so used to both.

[DynamiteShikoku]

maybe that's because english is not my first language. one piece is also dubbed into my native language and even though it is still sounds weird, it is more bearable compared to the eng dub one. i still prefer the jap dub because i usually watch the anime that way. i guess dual dub is the best choice for namco to satisfy everyone and attract more players as i know some players who are unwilling to buy the game if it is not eng dubbed.

[Kaitouu]

The game was like what, 15GB? And you guys in the US want it English dubbed? Imagine how big it will be. I know Europe gets it as a disc.

But here's the thing, the game has already been confirmed as a Digital Download for us Americans, so they won't put it into a disc.

[MasterKingJC]

I'd rather Funimation keep their time and effort focused on dubbing the rest of Season 5 instead of half-heartedly dubbing a video game within the span of a few months.

[Robby]

You realize that getting the dub cast balloons the cost of localizing the game without increasing the actual sales at all, right? OP and Musou fans that are going to buy the game… are going to buy it already, with or without a dub cast.

English voices isn't going to make the game sell any better, and it isn't going to get it disk copies, so they aren't going to bother.

[Devil G.]

Are there not new gameplays? Damnnnnn, I can't wait more :I

[ludafactor]

@DynamiteShikoku:

if it will be dual dub (you can change between jap/eng dub easily in the option menu) then im willing to sign that to help you guys who want the game to be dubbed. but if that will make the eng version of the game only have the eng dub then im against it. many people who watch the anime online prefer jap dub because they already get used to their jap voices and im one of those guys.

All Namco Games featuring Shoden Jump Franchise has Dual Dubs if they ever agree to even add an english dub

@RobbyBevard:

You realize that getting the dub cast balloons the cost of localizing the game without increasing the actual sales at all, right? OP and Musou fans that are going to buy the game… are going to buy it already, with or without a dub cast.

English voices isn't going to make the game sell any better, and it isn't going to get it disk copies, so they aren't going to bother.

Your theory makes sense but that not entirely true. The OP fans that expects only Jap dubs are still buying but there are other fans that like english Dubs that are supporting the Funimation Dubs by buying the Volumes & Arcs of One Piece Which they release about a month or 2 after they complete a volume and if those English fans were to know that they can have English as a choice then surely they would get it. And would the Naruto storm franchise even get a lot of sales if it was only japanese? Maybe 3/4 but that 1/4 is still a lot from the sales I seen on Saiyan Island.

[Robby]

@ludafactor:

The OP fans that expects only Jap dubs are still buying but there are other fans that like english Dubs that are supporting the Funimation Dubs by buying the Volumes & Arcs of One Piece Which they release about a month or 2 after they complete a volume and if those English fans were to know that they can have English as a choice then surely they would get it. And would the Naruto storm franchise even get a lot of sales if it was only japanese? Maybe 3/4 but that 1/4 is still a lot from the sales I seen on Saiyan Island.

1. There's a difference between an ongoing anime release (that they hope to one day get back onto television) and a one-shot niche video game dedicated towards the already existent audience.

2)Naruto is popular stateside and has a wider audience base than One Piece does, so they're different markets. Yes, we all console ourselves by knowing OP is by far the better seller in Japan, but its not the case stateside. (In manga sales in 2012, Naruto has 6 of the top 15 seller spots along with Sailor Moon… the highest OP volume is at 46.)

3)The english text translation of the game will hit all european markets, so its cost effective to do that much, but do you think the european audience really cares about the american dub?

[GetsugaZoro]

Btw why do you guys want it dubbed? I don't watch any dub and I'm sure from what I hear around here that the american dub is decent but why not have the original voices? do you guys dont want to read subs or do you genuinly prefer what I assume to be the American dub version of the anime instead of the japanese?

[stephen]

friendly reminder: "jap" is a slur in English that has a historical connotation of racism. use "jp" or "jpn" if you need to abbreviate.

[Rukusho]

@stephen:

friendly reminder: "jap" is a slur in English that has a historical connotation of racism. use "jp" or "jpn" if you need to abbreviate.

Wow I didn't know that learn something new everyday thnx.

! And did anyone realize one of laws specials is the move he used to finish Vergo hopefully luffy will have grizzly magnum.

[Zek]

An english dub would be great, but like I said, and others have said, and rather they focus on getting season 5 dubbed. I lived with Japanese voices for the first game, I can do it for the second.

If the DBZ/One Piece/ Toriko game gets a US release, I would really like that dubbed. The fact that Funi has the rights to all three is just too perfect not too.

That, and Goku's Japanese voice is just so…not fitting...for adult Goku anyway. But that's really off topic.

[OMGitsKurt]

Even if it had the English dub available as an option, I would still only play the game with it's original Japanese audio track. Not a huge dub guy personally.

[JinbeiKun]

@Zek:

An english dub would be great, but like I said, and others have said, and rather they focus on getting season 5 dubbed. I lived with Japanese voices for the first game, I can do it for the second.

If the DBZ/One Piece/ Toriko game gets a US release, I would really like that dubbed. The fact that Funi has the rights to all three is just too perfect not too.

That, and Goku's Japanese voice is just so…not fitting...for adult Goku anyway. But that's really off topic.

I like Jp voices too but i think it hurts sales if the game is not in English. Some people are too lazy to read the usbtitles and want to hear it. Maybe