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Chapter 402 "2nd Handcuff" Discussion
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I think Blueno probably wastes his gift the most though, if only because he's smart enough that he should be able to exploit it more.
Nami could probably make use the most of Blueno's gift though, think of all the locked room she could get into undetected and steal to her heart content;)
Actually, there's an even more deadly form than that.
Terrifying. You guys ever wonder what happen if Wapol manage to eat an ancient weapon.
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And Douriki…I did think of it something like a benchpress. There's power, but also somewhat technique. A man can put up 800 pounds, while a gorilla would crush its neck trying to do it. Yet the gorilla would still tear the guy limb from limb. Just being able to perform well with something almost never indicates full power capacity.
A Gorilla cannot accomplish the equivalent of a benchpress? Wow, that's really cool to know. o_O;
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On a side note, what's the talk of the "Milky Dial", here? I've forgotten what it does; was that the dial that made long steel-hard lines of cloud? If so, it's understandable why Oda would make it useless; it's a totally (potentially) abusive weapon in the Blue Sea (much like the rarer Reject Dial), and there's no real way to repower it.
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The power is blinding.
BTW I figured I'd take this lull in the action to say how freaking pleased I am with Oda. Over a year ago I specifically said, the crew cannot win against CP9 unless they work together and fix their broken team; I think we all remember what shambles it was in. And here we are two literally chained together, another working to save them and in the process will end up helping another no doubt, all of them working together to find the one thing to free their companion. The wounds obviously still haven't all healed and I'm looking forward to a tearful reunion at the end of this, but it appears that Oda agrees with the sentiments I put forth and for all intensive purpose, the Straw Hat Crew is back and they've got an industrial drum of whoopass with CP9's name on it.
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The question would be though if it is necessary to include dials that can do what the Clima Tact can do already. Wouldn´t some dials who have other effects but at the same time amplify the old effects of the weapon be a better choice?
You are right if such dials (having other effects but at the same time amplify the old effects) exist, or rather usopp have them.
Although the original clima tact have quite a number of attacks, most of them are inefficient, e.g. heat ball, cold ball, electric ball, rain tempo. According to usopp, some of these attacks are incomplete. In my opinion, a heat dial can improve the heat stick and a water dial can improve rain tempo.
In other words, it is alright to include dials that can do what Clima tact can already do, since the original weapon has a lot of rooms for improvement.
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@omae:
The wounds obviously still haven't all healed and I'm looking forward to a tearful reunion at the end of this, but it appears that Oda agrees with the sentiments I put forth and for all intensive purpose, the Straw Hat Crew is back and they've got an industrial drum of whoopass with CP9's name on it.
I've thought all along that the double whammy of the Usopp situation combined with the Robin situation was the only real reason that Luffy had as much trouble with Lucci as he did.
Of course, I never expected that CP9's own internal issues would come to the forefront in the way that they have. Two of their top three fighters not only dislike each other (which seems to be getting worse as Jyabura seems set on mocking Kaku about his Devil Fruit), but are now in active competition with each other. Zoro will do his best to help Usopp and the reverse will also apply, but either CP agent seems perfectly willing to let his comrade be hung out to dry.
The two CP units have not worked together for years and seem to be more comfortable as part of either one group or the other depending on how they've spent those last two years. The problem for CP9 is that those groups have been fragmented, so they're just as likely to wind up working with somebody from the other group if they work with anybody.
It doesn't help the only agent that seemed to interact freely with members from either group and might be able to get them to work together long enough to effectively fight the Straw Hats is currently out cold thanks to Luffy. It also doesn't help that Spandam took the strongest member of either team with him to protect his sorry ass (as Lucci could just force the others into line), but that might not be that bad as Lucci probably isn't all that well liked by any of his colleagues. Jyabura for certain despises him and the rest probably aren't that close to Lucci because he's, well, a prick.
So ultimately, it's going to come down to the Straw Hats' unity versus the petty bickering and internal animosity of CP9.
The thing that I love about this arc is just how Oda has developed things.
Just when you think that he's introduced enough characters on the Sea Train in characters like T-Bone, Wanze, and Nero to have fights for every one of the Straw Hats involved, he blindsides us by having them by dealt with in only a few chapters and then introduces The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers out of nowhere. Despite them being introduced so far along in the story arc, Oda manages to make them interesting and appealing characters almost effortlessly.
Even the little details are going perfectly.
The Buster Call is designed in such a way that it can strike fear into people, but is still clearly vulnerable to individuals like Mihawk, Ace, and Doflamingo. It can't be used except in special occasions, which explains why the Navy never uses it against pirates. Rokushiki, and I know I just keep bringing this up, but what a magnificent concept. Every move makes sense for an assassin to be using it, but the actual system is open to individualization.
Even the art is top-notch. Just the mere design of Enies Lobby itself and how the expressions and the body language of the World Government officials display how genuinely dismayed and/or enraged they are by their inability to stop Luffy and his crew.
I think I still like Alabasta slightly more, but this has to be one of the greatest story arcs ever.
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Interesting thought I just had; is it possible for Kumadori to be defeated…by Kumadori? If Nami weakens him enough and he disgraces her in some way, Kumadori would most likely attempt Seppuku again…but if Tekkai fails, well.
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Ivotas, I interpret that image as Valentine hopping off the side to avoid the Marines while the other Baroque Works members are causing destruction elsewhere, but I can see it from the other angle too.
That´s a fair argument. Either way we can´t really say argument about Miss Valentine is right so it comes down to being a matter of interpretationg. The only thing that I´m 100% is that it is not Daz´s doing. I forgot this page when I put up examples of his style of building cutting. On this page there´s even text support for the uniqueness of how the wall "breaks".
@omae:
You have obviously forgotten his most terrifying and powerful form. http://www.sendacelebration.com/images/products/small-image/additonalitems/mylittlepony/beveragenapkinssmall.jpg
Actually, there's an even more deadly form than that.
Good lord, now you guys have taken this thread to the extreme. Wouldn´t suprise me if the thread gets closed because of that. :lol:
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Interesting thought I just had; is it possible for Kumadori to be defeated…by Kumadori? If Nami weakens him enough and he disgraces her in some way, Kumadori would most likely attempt Seppuku again…but if Tekkai fails, well.
That would be funny in a dark way. I have a feeling that if Nami is the one who defeats Kumadori that of course it'll be through exploiting a personality weakness.
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Actually, there's an even more deadly form than that.
Actually, I think I gots teh winner for deadly Wapol forms…
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Gone are the days of glorious early-morning Thursday releases eh? No LOST last night either. yargh
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I only managed to watch the new LOST last night so it's only half as bad for me…
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But it wasn't new. That was from Season 1. Three freaking weeks (well, two now) until a new episode.
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I meant I saw epsiode 15 yesterday…I waited a week
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I just re-read the the Ms. Goldenweek sidesory again, and I saw in chapter 361 that in the newspaper it showed Crocodile, Mr.1, Mr.2, Mr.4, Mr.4's dog-gun, Ms.Doublefinger, and Ms. MerryChristmas as being caught.
So if you count them they're 7, and Mr.2 already escaped before. So them totalling up to 6 makes sense.
Sorry if someone already posted this before, I just the first few pages and didn't bother reading the rest.
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@omae:
Gone are the days of glorious early-morning Thursday releases eh? No LOST last night either. yargh
I remember when the releases were on WEDNESDAY morning. Then I had to wait an extra day for the Thursday morning releases. Now we have Friday releases. One day we may have to see it the same day as everyone else in Japan. But somehow, we'll live and get used to it.
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I remember when the releases were on WEDNESDAY morning.
Hmmm, I seem to remember a brief period of that goodness but Thursday has always been a kinda safe-zone ya know? Suuuure every once and a while it'd be Friday and sometimes we'd even get a Wednesday. But Thursday was the day. Now?
And honestly, what the hell has changed? Spoilers are out the same times so why aren't the chapters the same? Frustration.