@Devil:
I suppose he was counting Luffy.
I thought he was using the chapters' titles to proof a point, never mind.
Strawhat Crew Theories and Prediction Thread
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Yeah, I miscounted and meant Brooke. It's why I should stop posting at 3 in the morning.
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this is my theory about the end of One Piece Rufy will kick blackbeard or someone else, but maybe shanks will die…what do you think about it?
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Oh come on…
16 characters.
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Ok 2 things, what if Kinemon's son joins the Strawhats too :ninja:. Also I think that in the end of the series the Strawhats will be captured by the marines and as they are being executed they are saved by Coby or Smoker or some other Marine friend.
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this is my theory about the end of One Piece Rufy will kick blackbeard or someone else, but maybe shanks will die…what do you think about it?
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Great fanart, dude! I really like your facial structures!
Question though, why are they holding up their hands in those specific ways?
Shanks dying late in the series has long been a prominent theory. So Oda will probably subvert it.
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Shanks dying late in the series has long been a prominent theory. So Oda will probably subvert it.
Maybe. The obvious route is that BB goes after Shank's crew and kills them all, which would then prompt the showdown between him and Luffy, nominally as the ultimate fight between the 2 strongest Pirates.
The best alternative I can think of is that BB ignores Shank's Crew and heads straight to Raftel. Luffy tries to follow (In order to fulfill his dream), but Shanks stands in the way, saying that if Luffy can't beat him, he would have no chance against BB.
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@KaW~KaW:
Ok 2 things, what if Kinemon's son joins the Strawhats too :ninja:. Also I think that in the end of the series the Strawhats will be captured by the marines and as they are being executed they are saved by Coby or Smoker or some other Marine friend.
A kid tag-a-long? Hell no - I mean, at least chopper was 15. Judging by the other kids in Biscuit's Room, Momonusuke-whatever would be about their age/
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@400MillionBelis:
A kid tag-a-long? Hell no - I mean, at least chopper was 15. Judging by the other kids in Biscuit's Room, Momonusuke-whatever would be about their age/
we never had his age confirmed maybe he is like 14/15.
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Momonusuke is Sabo's new name.
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i said that in the current chapter discussion thread
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@The:
Momonusuke is Sabo's new name.
Sabo's the son of a Noble in Dawn Island.
You are on a quest to become the Pirate Prince, and you decide your fate!
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@400MillionBelis:
Sabo's the son of a Noble in Dawn Island.
Silly that was just a ploy. Kinemon has been searching for his son since his early years. He was kidnapped by some world nobles then he ran away from the revolutionaries, and he ended up being adopted by vegapunk then ditched on Punk Hazard. That's why he was nothing like a world noble.
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@KaW~KaW:
Silly that was just a ploy. Kinemon has been searching for his son since his early years. He was kidnapped by some world nobles then he ran away from the revolutionaries, and he ended up being adopted by vegapunk then ditched on Punk Hazard. That's why he was nothing like a world noble.
100% of what the pokemon said lol.
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@KaW~KaW:
sorry but could you explain this i do not understand
Your avatar is a pokemon lol.
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@Law:
Your avatar is a pokemon lol.
oops. Yeah anyway strawhats(there now this little chat was on topic)
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I'm sure it's been discussed somewhere in this thread, but what do people think about Luffy eventually ( or currently) being capable of a fully body gear 3rd where his entire body becomes gigantic in size?
Or possibly even a Gear 4th with full body vulcanization? Given that wikipedia says "Vulcanization of rubber creates more disulfide bonds between chains, so it shortens each free section of chain. The result is that the chains tighten more quickly for a given length of strain, thereby increasing the elastic force constant and making rubber harder and less extensible" it is possible such a form could be used for much closer fighting than Luffy typically does but in exchange being considerably stronger and more durable.
And of course we could get crazy and speculate a full blown Giant Vulcanized Luffy form, but that would be a bit of a stretch…... :ninja:
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And of course we could get crazy and speculate a full blown Giant Vulcanized Luffy form, but that would be a bit of a stretch…... :ninja:
Frankly I think that would be super awesome. I kind of resent gear 2nd in that it has monopolized Luffy's fighting style, which is something that back in East Blue really got me into the series. His silly his risk melee style that would look like just messing around and having fun.
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Luffy can presumably already do something like a full body Gear 3rd. But the purpose of the move is to put an overwhelming emphasis on offensive destructive power. If he can take in more air to pump into himself, he'll just make more absurdly massive limbs instead of doing a full body thing.
My interpretation, anyway.
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Or burst - Rubber has it's limitations.
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Rubber certainly has it's limitations, but this is a Manga and it's not just regular rubber. It's rubber that is only granted by eating a magical fruit that possibly has a demon inside of it. Also from what Crocodile has said and from what we've seen we know that Devil Fruit Powers can likely be strengthened or enhanced to even more supernatural levels. If Garp a "regular human" can pick up battleships with enough training I'm sure Luffy's entire rubber body can become the size of a giant with enough training. Almost all other devil fruit seem to be capable of producing infinite amounts of their respected ability (logia's with their elements, Mr.3 with his Wax, Magellan (sp) with his Posion) so why couldn't Luffy's body stretch theoretically an infinite amount.
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Moving it here
the problem with that is that Zoro seems to be slowly growing out of that, he basically almost sacrificed himself(with that his dream) for Luffy and that shows immense character growth for Zoro.
Sanji is the same as at Baratie except with a more exaggerated personality, he hasn't had any bigger character moments.Sanji wanted to sacrafice himself at TB as well… even for Zoro.
My main point is... Who teached him that strictly that he can't do it, even if he tries and didn't want to die, as he himself stated.
I seriously want to know if it will have some plot relevance and backstory behind it.
I can't see Zeff hitting him saying... "Don't hit women cuz they are weak but beautiful"
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Moving it here
Sanji wanted to sacrafice himself at TB as well… even for Zoro.
My main point is... Who teached him that strictly that he can't do it, even if he tries and didn't want to die, as he himself stated.
I seriously want to know if it will have some plot relevance and backstory behind it.
I can't see Zeff hitting him saying... "Don't hit women cuz they are weak but beautiful"
Well, I'm also interested in the whole thing with him being originally from North Blue. There's been a nice share of character development for all the crewmates, but Sanji always seems to be getting the short end of the stick. What he did at Alabasta was cool, but it didn't progress his character, what he did at the seatrain was cool, but it didn't progress his character, I hoped his fight with Kalifa would result in something, but it didn't and what he did at the end of Enies Lobby was cool, but again it didn't progress or bring anything new his character.
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It is interesting that Sanji wouldn't hit a woman in any way. I like how Oda addressed it in the SBS, "it's not that he won't hit a woman, it's that he CAN'T hit a woman." Sanji is fire/ fighting and women are Ghosts with flash fire. I hardly view it as him not committed to the crew. But I view that Kalifa fight as something that did flesh out his character more. It was something that probably none of us saw coming and it gave more insight to his life living under a former New World Pirate. Well potentially a New World Pirate.
I truly hope we get more insight on his back ground in the future, but the simple reasoning behind it all could be all we ever have. As far as I can tell Luffy, Robin, Brook, Franky and Jinbe are the best candidates who will undoubtedly get more flash backs that will elaborate on things already mentioned.
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
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It is interesting that Sanji wouldn't hit a woman in any way. I like how Oda addressed it in the SBS, "it's not that he won't hit a woman, it's that he CAN'T hit a woman." Sanji is fire/ fighting and women are Ghosts with flash fire. I hardly view it as him not committed to the crew. But I view that Kalifa fight as something that did flesh out his character more. It was something that probably none of us saw coming and it gave more insight to his life living under a former New World Pirate. Well potentially a New World Pirate.
I truly hope we get more insight on his back ground in the future, but the simple reasoning behind it all could be all we ever have. As far as I can tell Luffy, Robin, Brook, Franky and Jinbe are the best candidates who will undoubtedly get more flash backs that will elaborate on things already mentioned.
You mean this… Well people ignore it
D: Here's my question: on p. 80 of Volume 42, Sanji says "I was raised to never kick a woman." Would that have been a lesson from Zeff the Chef? Would that mean Zeff is very soft on women, as well? Tell me. from Ariga-san
O: Oops, this one's from the same person as the last one. This is a good question though, so I'll answer it. When I drew Sanji vs Kalifa (Chapter 403), some people lauded Sanji's stance, and some people felt sorry for him. The truth is, I didn't really want to write those lines. Sanji doesn't have a "policy" of not kicking women; the truth is that he actually CAN'T kick them. He is a very proud man. I think he was really frustrated at that. think Nami recognized that, and chose to praise him for once. It's a scene that I hope will resonate with male readers, but everyone's free to take it as they wish. Also, Zeff is just a man among men.
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I don't get you Kishido, your Sanji mood swings are of epic proportions. Do you like the guy, hate him, or indifferent now? It was only a few months ago that you basically had enough, but now all seems well in your Sanji world.
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
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I don't get you Kishido, your Sanji mood swings are of epic proportions. Do you like the guy, hate him, or indifferent now? It was only a few months ago that you basically had enough, but now all seems well in your Sanji world.
I had enough of his nosebleeding and it stopped.
And this is now a qeuestion about a reason of him not being able to do it
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I had enough of his nosebleeding and it stopped.
And this is now a qeuestion about a reason of him not being able to do it
I wonder if he would beat up the fat alvida or katarina devon or kick big mom. It seems that he only can't kick beautiful women but we have yet to see it. If it's only beauty, then he's just a very proud pervert. In his flashback, he seemed like a spoiled brat, so I think nothing terrible happened in his childhood until he met zeff.
Might have something to do with the lack of women after he met zeff. I mean there wasn't a single female cook so he pbbly thinks they are very rare and kicking them would be the same as wasting food. What I mean is that he assimilates hunger with lack of women.
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@Last:
I wonder if he would beat up the fat alvida or katarina devon or kick big mom. It seems that he only can't kick beautiful women but we have yet to see it. If it's only beauty, then he's just a very proud pervert. In his flashback, he seemed like a spoiled brat, so I think nothing terrible happened in his childhood until he met zeff.
Might have something to do with the lack of women after he met zeff. I mean there wasn't a single female cook so he pbbly thinks they are very rare and kicking them would be the same as wasting food. What I mean is that he assimilates hunger with lack of women.
No he wouldn't.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2253-10/one-piece/chapter-146.html
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I love Sanji, he's one of my favorite Straw Hats and a reason I got into this series in the first place.
But badass and all, I also feel like Oda has been failing at developing his character as much as others. Pretty much every Straw Hat save for Franky and Sanji has had some sort of development.
- Luffy saw Ace die and his crew taken away from him and he had to find new strength.
- Zoro went from thinking only of his dream to taking care of the ones of his captain and his crew.
- Nami frequently has had to demonstrate her loyalty to the crew and her respect of Luffy even when sacrificing her life (eg. with Enel.)
- Usopp had to get over his feeling of being useless to the crew (as in, he had all of Water 7.)
- Chopper has accepted the fact that he's different and a monster.
- Robin went from simply surviving to enjoying life with the crew.
- Brook has arguably grown little but now he seems to have an appreciation of life that he didn't have before and he showed extreme loyalty to the crew when he gave up that superstar life to honor them and be with them.
Everything about Sanji has simply been left on hold. In the Baratie arc he was shown to have extreme honor and to show guilt about being indebted to others. The honor thing was picked up when he fought Kalifa but wasn't addressed ever again, even though it could have come up in his Okama hell. And his thing with being indebted to others could have come up when he was willing to die for others but Zoro didn't let him. It could have been a huge thing about him feeling indebted to Zoro now and hating it. But it never came up again.
Not to mention his whole inferiority complex that just gets put down like a gag. Sanji has always been proud of his strength and being recognized for it and the gag is that his wanted poster doesn't even show him. And even though he's just as strong as Zoro it's very clear that Zoro gets considerably more moments that Sanji has ever had. So yea, I feel like Oda put him aside as a gag character and hasn't picked up on a lot of his development.Huh, it kind of feels like it's the same with Franky so far, but since Franky hasn't had annoyingly frequent nosebleed-like gags his character hasn't suffered for it.
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I love all Straw Hats, but Sanji has had the worst character development out of all the Straw Hats, ever since his fight with Kalifa. It's not that I hate the fact that Sanji is unable to hit a woman (though can obviously harass them on the degree of their beauty, e.g Kokoro), quite the opposite - I like that he's a man. But ever since that, that fact has been treated quite horribly, and Sanji has become more of a pervert than someone who respect the ladies. I know Sanji knows it's a hindrance that he can't a woman even if it depended on his life (quite glad he wasn't around when Luffy[?] hit Miss Valentine), but holy crap it turned annoying - and him getting sent to Kamabakka Kingdom didn't help that at all. Have you noticed, after the train segment of Water 7, Sanji hasn't had at least one holy-shit-badass moment (before Punk Hazard, and sans the introduction of Diable Jambe) that's even comparable to what he has done in the past, like his fight with Kurobi, the Lupan Avalanche, Mr. Prince, and some other stuff I can't recall immediately? I also dislike the fact that his backstory of living for weeks, or months, of no food, and his whole deal with starvation is never revisted again, at least as a main thing. The way Oda has focused on Sanji being a ladies man sometimes makes me wonder why he even wants to find the All Blue. Fishman Island is definitely the lowest Sanji has ever been.
I absolutely fucking love Sanji in Punk Hazard - I'm like Zoro when he first met Keimi and removed his memory of Kokoro - his whole shenanigans since Thriller Bark is slowly fading away. Oda still maintains Sanji as a man with immeasurable respect for women, and his pervy-ness still exists but isn't much of an annoyance (I love how he shouted out "AND WE ARE NAMI", I was reading that late at night and I laughed out loud! That was hilarious!), but his mysterious ways has come back, and I love his dedication in helping Kinemon. I hope this continues. Fuck Fishman Island. At least the middle parts and the fights.
Usopp has had the best character treatment, and no matter what you say about how annoying Perona is, and how god-awful Thriller Bark's middle and climax is, I fucking love Usopp's fight with Perona - the best fight in the whole arc, which is essentially only three, since what-the-hell-absalom-hogback can be merely called a skirmish. Usopp has really grown, from being a normal man put into a pirate's life (really, if you we're part of the Straw Hats, how would you react in most situations? Like Usopp right?) who has no self-assurance, to someone who's becoming brave; which, by the way, is his goal. A lot of people complain about Usopp being weak, but Usopp wants to become "BRAVE Warrior of the Sea", not "Strong Warrior of the Sea", you can say they go hand in hand, but each of them are quite different.
I'm still on the fence about Brook - at least how his character is going. We haven't really seen much of him, and his dedication to his new crew is quite surprising. I like him enough though.
I still need to see more of Jimbei, in a situation that doesn't include Fishman Island, steroids, and Fishman Island. God I can't Oda had to restrain himself on that arc D:
Though this is a theory and prediction thread…can it just be a discussion thread in general .-.
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Brook is solid enough, he's been shining since the timeskip. The way he left the concert, his fight with Zeo (who was easily the most likeable NFP), and his appearance earlier in this arc to help his crew. He has his humor and his craziness, but he's really showing the crew that they can rely on him.
I also really liked that in his first real fight, the one with Zeo, he gave such a great speech regarding the value of life and what it really means to die.Also hoping that Punk Hazard does push Sanji out of that slump of being merely a gag character. I also really want for him to get moments similar to the ones Zoro gets. You know, Zoro got to own Hody, people remark on his deadliness, he gets to slice a freaking dragon's head off. As a part of the monster trio Sanji deserves moments like those.
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The only fight I can clearly remember from Fishman Island is Brook vs. Zeo. I think I should mention that Brook is starting to shine since Fishman Island, and I'm thinking I'm set on Brook after Punk Hazard.
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While I'm here, let me say my opinions on Robin and Franky even though it's not important to you :3
Robin has definitely grown, but ehh we need to see more of her. She has only one on one real fight…with Yama? Who was more of a cop-out villain? Correct me if I'm wrong (I really don't remember a lot from Fishman Island, and I'm just rereading it now to set my mind on how good Fishman Island is; did she get a fight there?) I love Robin and her grimness, and I absolutely adored her when she was wondering if she should copy Luffy and Chopper with the Chopsticks gag - but she has been a bit off a...background character until she is needed. She needs to get on the front lines and needs to shine more.
I have one thing to say about Franky - I was only eh on him before his antics on the Vegapunk Island. I love Franky ever since he cause trouble there. Nuff' said.
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Brook is solid enough, he's been shining since the timeskip. The way he left the concert, his fight with Zeo (who was easily the most likeable NFP), and his appearance earlier in this arc to help his crew. He has his humor and his craziness, but he's really showing the crew that they can rely on him.
I also really liked that in his first real fight, the one with Zeo, he gave such a great speech regarding the value of life and what it really means to die.Also hoping that Punk Hazard does push Sanji out of that slump of being merely a gag character. I also really want for him to get moments similar to the ones Zoro gets. You know, Zoro got to own Hody, people remark on his deadliness, he gets to slice a freaking dragon's head off. As a part of the monster trio Sanji deserves moments like those.
1. There is no monster trio anymore
2. Jinbe is soon to take the place, if it indeed exists:ninja:
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1. There is no monster trio anymore
2. Jinbe is soon to take the place, if it indeed exists:ninja:
The Monster Trio still exists. There's a reason why Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are the only ones with Haki in the crew.
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The Monster Trio still exists. There's a reason why Luffy, Zoro and Sanji are the only ones with Haki in the crew.
I believe he's being sarcastic. I hope so at least, iirc KiShiDo was one of the most ardent supporters of the Monster Trio still being alive following the time skip.
If in doubt, look for the ninja –> :ninja:
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Wait - if Jinbe joins (eh - I never liked spelling it as Jimbei) - we won't have even trios now D:
Monster-Trio
"Weak"-Trio
Mid-TrioAWW.
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Jimbei > Jinbe. :ninja:
And Luffy wants 10 members (without him) so trios won't last forever. :ninja:
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Jimbei > Jinbe. :ninja:
And Luffy wants 10 members (without him) so trios won't last forever. :ninja:
3 more will join? :>
2 if you count Jinbe?Quads now then.
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Robin has fought:
Pell
Yama
Spanda (sorta. The whole walk to the Gates of Justice was basically her fight with him, ending with her mutilating him with her powers.)
HammondOh, and she was also part of the Oz fight, the Tararan fight and the Pacifista fight. But those were all team-up matches, so maybe they don't count…
May you live in interesting times.
May you attract the attention of those above you.
~Two ancient Chinese curses.
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i still like the idea of a new monstertrio. It includes Zoro, Sanji and Jinbei. Luffy is his own league, the deus ex machina. I would love this way ^w^. Well at least its not impossible, who knows what else Oda has planned with them shrug
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Robin has fought:
Pell
Yama
Spanda (sorta. The whole walk to the Gates of Justice was basically her fight with him, ending with her mutilating him with her powers.)
HammondShe fought Pell when she was an antagonist.
I don't really consider Spandam…she was really handicapped and Spandam didn't put much of a fight.
And Hammond had a one on one fight? O.o
I really need to reread Fishman Island - I don't remember that happening D:
And I'm only looking for one on ones, so Oz doesn't count.You are on a quest to become the Pirate Prince, and you decide your fate!
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@400MillionBelis:
And Hammond had a one on one fight? O.o
For like 2 pages where Robin basically 1-shotted him
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Personally, I don't think we'll see any new crew members.
Instead, I think Luffy will find allies as he travels the New World, and make them "Honorary Strawhats." I consider Jinbei a Strawhat, even though he isn't on the Sunny. I could easily see Kinemon becoming an honorary crew member, then leaving to go home with his son. Then, during the final, climactic battle of the series, these Strawhats rally an army, Jimbei bringing fishmen, Kinemon bringing samurai, ect. Then an epic war, overshadowing the Whitebeard war, between the Strawhats and their friends and Blackbeard and those who follow him (with the World Government also taking part, maybe), with the winner being abe to claim the One Piece and become Pirate King.
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Robin has fought:
Pell
Yama
Spanda (sorta. The whole walk to the Gates of Justice was basically her fight with him, ending with her mutilating him with her powers.)
HammondOh, and she was also part of the Oz fight, the Tararan fight and the Pacifista fight. But those were all team-up matches, so maybe they don't count…
She's had a few one on one fights but she's still pretty a formidable opponent.
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Robin is the purple haze of the One Pieceverse.
She's too, Oda kinda has to skip out on fights involving her because most of them will end up onesided.
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Robin is the purple haze of the One Pieceverse.
She's too, Oda kinda has to skip out on fights involving her because most of them will end up onesided.
She struggled with Moria :ninja:
I just hope she gets more front center events.
You are on a quest to become the Pirate Prince, and you decide your fate!
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Robin is the purple haze of the One Pieceverse.
She's too, Oda kinda has to skip out on fights involving her because most of them will end up onesided.
Not that, its just that her abilities are really 1-note and hard to make interesting. I liked her fight with Yama cause it showed how she didn't have to rely on just surrounding her opponent with arms to win, but that's been her strategy in basically every other fight so far.
I think she's going to be the one to fight the unusual enemies (like say Perona) where winning isn't dependent on being the strongest or fastest but the smartest and most creative.
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@400MillionBelis:
3 more will join? :>
2 if you count Jinbe?Quads now then.
I was thinking the same. If 3 more join, we have 3 quartets. :ninja:
