thanx a lot great chapter !!!
Chapter 400 "Key of Liberation" Discussion
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thanx a lot great chapter !!!
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wtf copper didnt get any fight
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What do you want? For him to break character completely and kick her ass without hesitation? Where's the suspense in that? I'm waiting to see how that one will turn out because I have no idea how Oda's going to do it; Sanji's never shown any inkling of ever fighting a woman no matter what her intentions toward him were. I'm excited for all these fights, actually, I really wasn't expecting these matchups at all. Yet another reason I love Oda; he consistantly surprises me.
I've been wondering myself when the time would come where Sanji would have to fight a woman. This is his ultimate challenge and I'm looking forward to it. :happy:
The Sogeking (or Sugee King? Hee, I'm so clever) versus Jyabura fight should be pretty awesome too.
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wtf copper didnt get any fight
Maybe he would confront Spandam and Funkfried. Wouldn´t be the first time that he opposes a guy who wields a pet-weapon.
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it will be hard for sanji: califa has a big bed!
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Also, Sanji's face reminds me of GTO.
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I'm hoping the SanjixCalipha fight won't be too much like the Bon Clay and Sanji one…
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It's been quite a long time since I've posted and it is really hard to keep up with these threads because they expand so quickly. Regardless, I just wanted to say "thanks" to the folks that linked the chapter and the usual crew of translators. Four hundred chapters means four hundred translations. Translation work is no small feat and people like stephen are dedicated beyond words to this effort.
Anyway, I'll try and post my thoughts on the battles at some point, but I think Chopper will be matched up with Spandam or Lucci's pigeon (it may know CP9 techniques). Either way, I want to know if Chopper can communicate with the sword/elephant if he does fight Spandam. It would be awesome if Spandam tried to slice at Chopper and he kept getting diverted by Funkfried.
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I think that the Sogeking fight will start like this, he will grab the key while he is sleeping , but as soon as he grabs it Jyabura will wake up. He won't transform until Sogeking starts using stuff like impact dial. I also think what Chopper is doing suring this will be said in 401.
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why do people think he'll fight that Pigeon? Where would be the challenge in that?
Great chapter. The look on Sanji's face was priceless.I cannot wait till this gets animatd.
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@Lighting-Ace:
why do people think he'll fight that Pigeon? Where would be the challenge in that?
Don't underestimate that Pigeon. It's the brain behind CP9 with a Douriki of 20.000. It just controls Lucchi. :biggrin: :wacko:
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i still think that copper should have gotten a real fight with one of the cp9, i mean spandam is weaker than the average marine soldier.
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@Lighting-Ace:
why do people think he'll fight that Pigeon? Where would be the challenge in that?
Great chapter. The look on Sanji's face was priceless.I cannot wait till this gets animatd.
Maybe the pigeon ate a Devil Fruit!
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c"h"opper.. if he's battling spandam then he'll be fighting a cp9 .. he may be weaker than the rest of the group in terms of doukiri but don't forget that he has his sword
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Great chapter!
And Calipha looks beautiful when she offers Sanji a cup of tea! I love that comment (and Sanji's face). Definitely the fight to look forward to.
Chopper will probably end up fighting Spandam… hmm, I guess he has to fight someone. Chopper fans will hate me for this, but I'm still hoping some day Chopper will develop some healing and supportive techniques, or apply his knowledge of medicine in combat, but, oh well...
Nami-chan! Love her pose. She's finally become enough of a fighter to have an enemy who uses her same weapon (minus weather magic), just like Zoro and Sanji!
Franky is so joining ^_^
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400th!? THANKS A BUNCH.
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This chapter ROCKED! ….and BW bustin' outa prison?!?!
So Funk Feed is like Mr. 4's dog huh?
...but man Sanji vs. Califa?! I hope her DF isn't a Zoan, or else I might get dissapointed.
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Heck, here it is at last! 400 ___
And… geez, all the spoilers were true, as regards the fights... has Chopper gone around with Luffy or something? I didn't really get what they're up to anyways... and oh God, Sanji's in Calipha's room XDDDDD I thought he'd meet her, but not in her room :P
Ah guys, has anyone noticed that the keys are VERY similar to the ones Crocodile had at the Rain Dinners? When he held the Mugiwara captive in the seastone cage? -
aside from the utter greatness of the chapter, i have to say that sanji's lips (unseen throughout 399 chapters) has officially invaded his face.
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Hey…how is "Funk Fried" spelled? I can read a tiny bit of Japanese and read "Fuanku Furiido". Is this a correct translation or is my reading off?
It's "Fanku", not "Fuanku", 'cause the katakana for "a" is smaller than the others kanas in this text. So, when an "i" or an "a" is smaller and is just after a "Fu", then it is pronounced "fa" for "fu+a" and "fi" for "fu+i"^^
Back to this topic, I really love all those "Sentai Stances" that Franky shows when he is serious(like versus Nero^^). This guy has something that makes him a Straw hat pirate: he plays the rude and rough boy but in his heart he is full of sentimentalism. And his emotions are shown by music and tears^^
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Probably he's paving his way to becoming a Mugiwara by all effects.
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I think the fights will take place simultaneously in the story just like they did in Alabasta but wed see them in the same order the matchups were shown.
Franky first, Soge next, then Nami and Sanji and Zoro.
Sanji and Zoro being just before Luffy is somewhat obvious, unless of course Oda invents new twists where opponents are switched or Chopper comes into play somewhere.Its gonna be fun =D
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Sanji and Zoro's will be two of the most intriguing as we don't have any possible clue of what kind of devil fruit Calipha and Kaku have eaten… probably Oda will leave those battles till the end.
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@_Vivi_:
Sanji and Zoro's will be two of the most intriguing as we don't have any possible clue of what kind of devil fruit Calipha and Kaku have eaten… probably Oda will leave those battles till the end.
that's what i was afraid of.
but yeah, i think so too. oda knows we've been on our toes waiting for those DF revelations and he'll keep it that way and enjoy our anticipation. damn, the guy's tricky XD
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The Sogeking Vs Jyabura fight will be awesome, i can see Jyabura bragging about how strong he is and Sogeking Lying about how strong he is, it´s gonna be a great fight.
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Hi all,
for my first post here, I would like to thnx everyone for all the chapters you bring and specially poeple who traslate all this japanese for us …
You remember all the battles in Arabasta, like Ussop was supposed to fight Mr 2 but he exchange his enemy with Sanji, and finally fight against Mr 3 ans Mrs Merry Chrismas, so I think that Calipha real openent will be Nami, also for Fukaku "Mama mia what I'm seeing, a bottle of Sake, so we will see for sure a Drenkun Master Fight" and I think I t will be against Sanji "Kunfu Style vs Teakendo", That's what I think, coz' Sanji is the third most poewerfull member in Mugiwara crew and Fukaku too in CP9 so ...
Let's see what Mr Oda reserve for us. :wacko:
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Chapter filled with surprises… I would NEVER thought that Sogeking would fight the Jyabura.
And yes, I enjoy the theory of Soge holding an Impact Dial (maybe he stole the one from Waipa)
But I don´t think it would be enough to defeat him...:ninja:EDIT: Reject ! Not impact ! Sorry =P
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he already showed us Impact Dial. I believe you are talking about Reject Dial…
Once again i consider this a slim possibility but someone said that he could've gotten one from inside tsulala's belly. -
i will only say, sanji is better than that :o(
i don't understand why you all like that stupid side of his character, in my opinion it detracts from a wonderous and otherwise flawless character, it's my only gripe about Oda, the "soft/laughable/lovey dovey" side of his character isn't needed, he needs to grow out of it. i mean serioulsy basically this is Arabasta all over again, why isn't Sanji evolving?
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What do you want? For him to break character completely and kick her ass without hesitation? Where's the suspense in that? I'm waiting to see how that one will turn out because I have no idea how Oda's going to do it; Sanji's never shown any inkling of ever fighting a woman no matter what her intentions toward him were. I'm excited for all these fights, actually, I really wasn't expecting these matchups at all. Yet another reason I love Oda; he consistantly surprises me.
I don't think there is a reason to worry, once Kalifa turns her devilpowers on
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A really interesting chapter…
It's really good that Sogeking got to fight Jabura. I was afraid they'd make him fight the 'weakest' enemy and barely beat him... Now Sogeking will have to show some good stuff against the transformed Jabura. It's also high time to top Usopp's Most Badass Moment from Alabasta.
We already saw Franky fight against a four-form user, so I'd rather skip the Franky vs Chapapa for now (or interrupt it somehow, since the Teawase needs to be used on other SW members too) and get on with Nami's trial by fire. I really want to see her and Sogeking kick some CP9 ass! Nami might actually be quite strong against at least some DF users if the Dial-powered weather staff can be used effectively in high speed (Soru etc.) battle. She could create conditions that are especially bad for the fruit user to make the special power more of a hindrance than advantage. Sadly Yoyoi doesn't have any fruit ability...
Sanji's fight is a disappointment for me. How does this differ from the Bon Clay fight? That fight was very cool in my opinion, but it has already been done once... Maybe if Califa's fruit transformed her into some kind of hideous thing that Sanji can kick without remorse -- but that's really just a small variation of the Alabasta fight...
I think Chopper wild end up against Spandam as well, but with the additional prediction that Lucci will be most interested in another Zoan fighter. If his statement about the Zoan having virtually limitless potential for growth is true, then this fight could evolve Chopper's whole character in a very fundamental way.
Robin's DF ability is somewhat cheaty, as seen in her beating down a Zoan user in seconds (back in Alabasta). She got a bad matchup at Skypiea (how fast would she have finished any/all of the 4 priests?) that stretched the match needlessly, and now she has a strength check on her that could limit the combined battle prowess of the SWs. By this, I mean leaving the Seirouseki handcuffs on her until they can be removed in another arc. :o
Edit: Typo is win.
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Looks to be a good chapter, didn't spandam carry a normal sword back when they were talking about douriki so I wonder what's so special about this elephant sword. I mean it's nice to turn your pet into a weapon to carry around but I wonder if it has any special, special abilities.
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i will only say, sanji is better than that :o(
i don't understand why you all like that stupid side of his character, in my opinion it detracts from a wonderous and otherwise flawless character, it's my only gripe about Oda, the "soft/laughable/lovey dovey" side of his character isn't needed, he needs to grow out of it. i mean serioulsy basically this is Arabasta all over again, why isn't Sanji evolving?
There's no better chance for him to evolve than this. He's got beat Calipha without getting all soft on her.
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the "soft/laughable/lovey dovey" side of his character isn't needed, he needs to grow out of it.
If you do that, he will become two dimensional.
And I just need point out something random… getting better in figthing and character development are two different things.
Anyway, thanks for the dose. The whole key thing felt a bit forced but it's an enjoyable chapter. At least I got my SanjiXCalifa and Spandam will be kicking some butt.
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i will only say, sanji is better than that :o(
i don't understand why you all like that stupid side of his character, in my opinion it detracts from a wonderous and otherwise flawless character, it's my only gripe about Oda, the "soft/laughable/lovey dovey" side of his character isn't needed, he needs to grow out of it. i mean serioulsy basically this is Arabasta all over again, why isn't Sanji evolving?
he will, and he is. he always has and now he's just taking another step further. that's why he needs this fight, a fight with someone that's 100% his weakness. he'll realise it and overcome it and he'll evolve. i don't think his casanova side will absolutely disappear, though. it's comical and one of the things that's so interesting about him. but he will evolve into knowing which chick is kick-able and which isn't. XD
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The other rooms seem interesting as well, Jyabura's room looks like small jungle I think.
I think it looks more like a zen garden, which fits Jabura. Though, Usopp is easily at his strongest over distance, I wonder how big this room is? Looks like this fight could be mostly close-quarters combat, which would be a huge disadvantage for him, not even considering Jabura's DF ability on top of that.
Usopp's really got his work cut out for him.
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-I like how all of the Strawhats just jump out of the rubble full of vigor.
-Fukurou was surprisingly menacing in this chapter.
-So do all of those keys open Robin's shackles? Or is only one of them real?
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@Son:
-So do all of those keys open Robin's shackles? Or is only one of them real?
I'm pretty sure only one is real, going by what Fukuro said.
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My only wish: To have Jabura do the ultimate 100% beast form shigan on Usopp, only to have it absorbed into an impact or reject dial. Plus, to see his shocked expression when Usopp gets no damage.
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NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT
Something to keep in mind, recall what happened during Alabasta what with Usopp meeting Mr. 2 but the fight switching.
And by that I don't mean it will happen to Usopp again, but we could be in for more than X VS X.
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IS Stephen's translation for this chapter up yet? It says it is on the homepage, but I don't see it on his site. I read the other translation on the boards, but it seems to be missing key lines.
Anyone know?
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hehe, like I said in the previous chapter thread, it is good to see the same debates happening again in the Spoiler thread and this one.
As a tip for those who can't wait the translation, just go to the spoiler thread and read the spoiler translation. It helps understand what characters are saying. I remember last week, when people here were throwing wild speculation regarding events, when the spoiler thread already had them partially translated.
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And here I am, hoping to see Sogeking owning one of the strongest CP9.
Also, Sanji's fight will be sooooooo cool against a woman! And a rokushiki martial artist, thorn-whip master, devil fruit user woman on top of that! I think he will have the hardest time in all of the fights.
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Sorry for my lame whining, but is there gonna be a higher quality scan anytime soon? The scan up there is kinda low, and I need a more medium quality for the scanlation I'm gonna do…
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@Monkey:
And Calipha looks beautiful when she offers Sanji a cup of tea! I love that comment (and Sanji's face).
She offered him a cup of tea? I wonder if this is yet another one of Oda´s hidden hints. With that man you have to expect everything (and you would still guess wrong). :laugh:
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I haven't looked around so I don't know if anyone did a translation already but if you guys want one, I'll do a trans right now
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"MAX 3"
..is that like the cola-power level Franky needs to properly refuel?
(Go for it kudou. I'm hanging out for a translation)
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She offered him a cup of tea? I wonder if this is yet another one of Oda´s hidden hints. With that man you have to expect everything (and you would still guess wrong).
Methinks it is more of a joke given her previous employment as a secretary. Bringing tea for guests at a business in Japan is quite common. And delicious.
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Sorry for my lame whining, but is there gonna be a higher quality scan anytime soon? The scan up there is kinda low, and I need a more medium quality for the scanlation I'm gonna do…
I've seen your scanlations on the msn group, and you shrink the pictures anyway…
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And Zoro's final line again makes me strongly question my sexuality.
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I've seen your scanlations on the msn group, and you shrink the pictures anyway…
Yeah, but my cousin doing the translation can't really read some of the text.