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Cyclone_Baroness

Loved the Sanji part. Hate the Zoro fight.

Sanji's scene was so over dramatic that it became hilarious to me. The music, the slow mo. Good stuff.

Zoro–Well it's been said, it killed that scene and the overall tone.

! I actually liked this arc originally because everyone at the beginning felt over powered. It's like they spent two years grinding levels lol. But the anime…ugh. I'm disappointed.

Also it drives me nuts that over 5 minutes of the show is wasted from the opening, the "I'll be Pirate King" Time Skip dialog, and then a location map and recap of the previous episode before we see something new.

KaizokuJinbei

KaizokuJinbei

I'm not sure I get why people hate the Zoro scene.

Slardar

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Slardar

It seems that Toei has a habit of ruining these one shot KO fights. Whitebeard vs. Blackbeard, anyone?

Still liked the episode, fun to see some action.

Miss Saturday

Miss Saturday

@KaizokuJinbei:

I'm not sure I get why people hate the Zoro scene.

Because they wanted the exact same one-shot scene shown in the manga, which also made them criticize Oda for not showing more fighting at the time.. Very hard to please the fanbase, y'know.
I understand the importance of Zoro taking down Hody with ease, but come on.. You people are blowing it out of proportion. The outcome was the same. And hating an episode because.. scaling mistakes with Wadatsumi? Really? Toei - and even Oda do not know how to keep one character the same size for more than two chapters.

Bojack

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Bojack

To be honest i think this episode was good, but it feels like they want to slow the pacing as much as possible since Oda went on a break this week. =[]

jmbjr

jmbjr

The Zoro scene bugged me, but not as much as it did for others here; at least they implied he was struggling because of lack of air. It felt more like Zoro just thought "screw this" and decided to just end it there.

That being said, it definitely kills a bit of the point of that scene in the manga, so I see why others are a little pissed about it.

Mr. Luffy

Mr. Luffy

I never really minded that Zoro Ko'd Hody so quickly in the manga. Hody completely underestimated Zoro because he was human and they were fighting underwater, not to mention he had no idea what Zoro was capable of. Hence, his surprise defeat. Added to that, Hody hadn't taken his pills yet–he may have been able do dodge and counter it otherwise.

Xaravir

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Xaravir

Pissed off at the Zoro fight. Loved it in the manga but Toei ruined it here.

MasterKingJC

MasterKingJC

@Miss:

Because they wanted the exact same one-shot scene shown in the manga, which also made them criticize Oda for not showing more fighting at the time.. Very hard to please the fanbase, y'know.
I understand the importance of Zoro taking down Hody with ease, but come on.. You people are blowing it out of proportion. The outcome was the same. And hating an episode because.. scaling mistakes with Wadatsumi? Really? Toei - and even Oda do not know how to keep one character the same size for more than two chapters.

The only problem I have with the Zoro fight was that Hody landed a blow on Zoro.
If that part wasn't included, it would have been fine to me.

demonkicksanji

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demonkicksanji

@MasterKingJC:

The only problem I have with the Zoro fight was that Hody landed a blow on Zoro.
If that part wasn't included, it would have been fine to me.

Y'know in some weird way, after reading all these comments regarding Toei "messing" up Hody vs. Zoro…I'm getting this whole "Who shot first? Han or Greedo?" argument...and Toei is George Lucas (i.e. Greedo never shot in the first place/Hody never landed a blow in the first place). It's been a while since I read this part of FI, but I just remember Zoro going underwater, panned to something else, back to fight...Zoro OHKO! Hody landing a blow is like Lucas' making Greedo shoot first. It really does screw up the original intention of this fight, but I guess they were trying too hard to extend this "fight" and make Hody "threatening" for filler's sake. But hey, I'm not a Zoro fanboy, so it doesn't hit me as hard...now if this happened to Sanji, then I'd complain more.

Fleet_Admiral_Akainu

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Fleet_Admiral_Akainu

Zoro against Hody was totally…disgusting.
But the worst part is:as it is right now, with the anime almost catching the manga, I feel that the awful filler scenes will get even worse from now on...

Kizuchan

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Kizuchan

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light_kun

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light_kun

! I'm expecting Luffy to struggle against Hordy Jones. If Hordy was able to do that much against Zoro, I'd expect no less even though the manga showed he barely hurt any of the Straw Hats. I'm not complaining since I can't wait to watch the fights.

YouDNewb

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YouDNewb

In the filler did Zoro do any attacks against Hody or did he just spend whole time before hitting the floor just deflecting Hody's attacks (except the trident butt to chest)???

If so then he still KO'd Hody with 1 attack, just Toei added in a little filler to take up time seeing as how close the anime is to the manga.

I may be wrong so please tell me if Zoro actually did do offensive attacks.

Edit: Oh and with the Trident butt to chest, did it seem to anyone else that Hody had like a "Soru" in the water, cause he sure got behind Zoro damn quick

z.rook

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z.rook

537 was a great episode I thought. Part with Chopper n Sanji was awesome imo, I felt so happy for him.
Surprised how Decken can be so tough after beeing hammered (thought the same when reading), He's definitly a very funny caracter tho.

Miss Saturday

Miss Saturday

@MasterKingJC:

The only problem I have with the Zoro fight was that Hody landed a blow on Zoro.
If that part wasn't included, it would have been fine to me.

Refresh my memory, what exactly did Hody do? Like.. push him underwater? It was a push I think, right? Come on. I don't think it's quite to the levels of Blackbeard punching Whitebeard in terms of lunacy. He's fighting a fish in water; he's at a disadvantage. Poor Toei just adds stuff and adds stuff and don't really think about the consequences. Look at last week. You can't fault them too hard by now.

YouDNewb

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YouDNewb

@Miss:

Refresh my memory, what exactly did Hody do? Like.. push him underwater? It was a push I think, right? Come on. I don't think it's quite to the levels of Blackbeard punching Whitebeard in terms of lunacy. He's fighting a fish in water; he's at a disadvantage. Poor Toei just adds stuff and adds stuff and don't really think about the consequences. Look at last week. You can't fault them too hard by now.

As I said Trident butt to the chest!!! thats gonna hurt a lot…..

But yes Toei really needs to learn to plan ahead of the current episode, do they even read the manga???

Mr. Luffy

Mr. Luffy

@YouDNewb:

In the filler did Zoro do any attacks against Hody or did he just spend whole time before hitting the floor just deflecting Hody's attacks (except the trident butt to chest)???

If so then he still KO'd Hody with 1 attack, just Toei added in a little filler to take up time seeing as how close the anime is to the manga.

I may be wrong so please tell me if Zoro actually did do offensive attacks.

The filler in 536 had Zoro doing several offensive attacks that were either dodged or blocked with Hody's trident.

YouDNewb

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YouDNewb

@Mr.:

The filler in 536 had Zoro doing several offensive attacks that were either dodged or blocked with Hody's trident.

! Ahhh ok, i forgot they had the filler in that episode aswell, i thought they only had the attack from above water which Hody used a subordinate as a shield which i thought was in manga.
! But thanks for informing me that I was wrong and Toei fails even more epically in my mind now, and I shall now never try to give a reason to why Toei stuffs up the actual story line of the series.
! **GO TOEI!!!!!!**

MasterKingJC

MasterKingJC

@Miss:

Refresh my memory, what exactly did Hody do? Like.. push him underwater? It was a push I think, right? Come on. I don't think it's quite to the levels of Blackbeard punching Whitebeard in terms of lunacy. He's fighting a fish in water; he's at a disadvantage. Poor Toei just adds stuff and adds stuff and don't really think about the consequences. Look at last week. You can't fault them too hard by now.

He hit Zoro in the chest with the end of his Trident and sent him hurling to the ground.

l3reezer

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l3reezer

Sanji's scene was hilarious. Did not feel extended that much. I felt sorry for Chopper even and his desperate attempts to stop Sanji. Thought the rope was pretty funny, they could've portrayed it as comedic irony better if you ask me. It would've been just as funny as the audience suspecting Luffy of kidnapping Shirahoshi and then Shirahoshi actually appearing out of Megalo. I think Luffy is initiating Gear Second too much as well. For something that is suppose to affect his life span, he seems to use it without even gauging his opponent's strength properly. The Zoro vs. Hody scene was pretty irksome. I would have preferred Zoro dominating some of Hody's minions as a means to extend time on the episode.

YouDNewb

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YouDNewb

@l3reezer:

Sanji's scene was hilarious. Did not feel extended that much. I felt sorry for Chopper even and his desperate attempts to stop Sanji. Thought the rope was pretty funny, they could've portrayed it as comedic irony better if you ask me. It would've been just as funny as the audience suspecting Luffy of kidnapping Shirahoshi and then Shirahoshi actually appearing out of Megalo. I think Luffy is initiating Gear Second too much as well. For something that is suppose to affect his life span, he seems to use it without even gauging his opponent's strength properly. The Zoro vs. Hody scene was pretty irksome. I would have preferred Zoro dominating some of Hody's minions as a means to extend time on the episode.

Can you please tell me where this has been said cause my brain is failing me (again)

Fleet_Admiral_Akainu

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Fleet_Admiral_Akainu

Frankly, between having no anime for a while and having an anime whose original story is getting shitted by Toei …I definitely prefer the first alternative. If hody's flashback and hody vs zoro is an indicative of wait us ahead, then it may be wise to stop watching One Piece once for all. Things were already getting bad, but now it seems that they're getting even worse.The difference of quality between the manga and the anime is just getting bigger... and- at least for me -watching the anime it's not as pleasant as it was before.
So,yeah...good luck and farewell,Toei...no more money for the next dvds.

sanji499

sanji499

This edited version was way more badass.

It will be very Lucasesque if Toei rereleases the whole series without fillers and higher quality animation.

YouDNewb

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YouDNewb

@sanji499:

This edited version was way more badass.

It will be very Lucasesque if Toei rereleases the whole series without fillers and higher quality animation.

I like it, they could even chuck in some other fillers from the episode when you said "some time passes"

ZoroGilla

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ZoroGilla

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ZoroGilla

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ZoroGilla

@YouDNewb:

Can you please tell me where this has been said cause my brain is failing me (again)

In the anime Luffy's fight with Rob Lucci they mentioned it.

demonkicksanji

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demonkicksanji

@sanji499:

This edited version was way more badass.

It will be very Lucasesque if Toei rereleases the whole series without fillers and higher quality animation.

If only Zoro could be silenced when saying "Lion's Song," then that would've been the truest representation of the manga OHKO.

DBKai says hello…and even that series still had some bits of filler and only higher-ish quality animation (some of those redrawn scenes were just awkward as hell).

sanji499

sanji499

If I was directing I would have also made Zoro going underwater more epic(better music and animation). It was one of the most iconic moments of this arc and it felt so underwhelming in the anime.
The director makes me think that he did not read the manga.

Why don't they make filler episodes on the cover stories ? The Jango and Fullbody stories were freaking hilarious. I guess the audience only cares about the straw hats even with crappy fillers.

royal pain

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royal pain

Looks like I'm one of the few who actually liked seeing Hody putting up a semi-decent performance in a fight for once.

Jabra

Jabra

@sanji499:

If I was directing I would have also made Zoro going underwater more epic(better music and animation). It was one of the most iconic moments of this arc and it felt so underwhelming in the anime.
The director makes me think that he did not read the manga.

Why don't they make filler episodes on the cover stories ? The Jango and Fullbody stories were freaking hilarious. I guess the audience only cares about the straw hats even with crappy fillers.

This is absolutely beyond me as well. The CP9 cover story (for example) had it all: funny moments, character insight/development, even a battle they could depict in greater detail.

@royal: