@No:
…...Ponzu ?
The bee girl. Got her brains blown out and was eaten by a random chimera ant.
Also a squandered character.
And made me want to go to Japan just so I could punch Togashi in the face.
@No:
…...Ponzu ?
The bee girl. Got her brains blown out and was eaten by a random chimera ant.
Also a squandered character.
And made me want to go to Japan just so I could punch Togashi in the face.
Hooray! Rejoice people, for old Togashi is finally back!
The bee girl. Got her brains blown out and was eaten by a random chimera ant.
Also a squandered character.
And made me want to go to Japan just so I could punch Togashi in the face.
…...I still don't remember.
Maybe,but his death had this unforgettable shock value.I felt like the manga was telling me that it wouln't show mercy to anyone.
I believe Kaito's death demonstrated that much more effectively. And it was in the same damn arc.
Pokkle and Ponzu's death were random, cruel, and unnecessary.
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@No:
…...I still don't remember.
It's best that you don't.
Pretty awful chapter.
The majority of the chapter dealt with the Koala Ant, but it seemed to be just a rehash of feelings that we already knew the Chimera Ants had. His reintroduction wasn't necessary at all, and it's likely he will never have a significant role in the series. On top of that, the reunion of Gon and Kite was incredibly underwhelming and lazy. If this was purely based on the story, this would be a lackluster chapter on its own, but given how excruciatingly bad the art was, it downgraded to being a total piece of shit. A really embarrassing chapter on Togashi's part.
Personaly I don't realy like when Togashi goes on a nine page existential/moral tangent for no real reason.
Wow.. this wasn't a good chapter to just randomly click on (I've never read the series before). This is shit… and makes me want to not even start reading it. I just glanced at some panels and kinda barfed. How often does he do this??
Time to prepare for some hate...
@No:
…...I still don't remember.
The life and times of Ponzu:
!
I'll be free to admit that I defend a lot of things in this series, but Ponzu and ESPECIALLY Pokkle's deaths were pretty sucky. While both reinforced that the world of HxH does not give a fuck and nearly any character can die, both of their deaths in the earliest parts of the Chimera Ant arc were just very cheap (and really if you have to sacrifice these kinds of things to prove a point you're probably doing it wrong). All Ponzu accomplished was sending a message to Kite and the others and Pokkle (after horrifying torture from Pitou) unwillingly told the ants how to utilize Nen. Both are just seemed like horribly wasted opportunities.
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Personally I'm cool with Kite being revived as long as we get a decent explanation for it eventually other than what Ging just briefly mentioned.
To be honest,I didn't even notice Ponzu's death.I mean,I saw Pokkle captured and a bee sent off and everything,but her death kinda didn't register with me.Hell,silly me was wondering what happened to her.I learned of her demise via ummm…this thread afterwards...quite some time after I finished the Ant arc.I guess that's what I get for being horribly horribly unattentive at times...or maybe this proves your point and her death was so random that I didn't even notice.
Still mostly my fault though.
I love how everyone (Kaito especially) doesn't seem disturbed or frustrated that Kaito's gender has changed. I know this is fiction, but I can't help but think being reborn and having your gender reversed would be kind of "bleh!"
(Ging: Oh hey Kaito, you aren't dead and are living on through the body of another girl whose spirit no longer enhabits it now. Busy month huh? Hey Gon probably wants to talk to you)
Maybe he's a male body with female personality? Like Killua's brother
This manga
I love how everyone (Kaito especially) doesn't seem disturbed or frustrated that Kaito's gender has changed. I know this is fiction, but I can't help but think being reborn and having your gender reversed would be kind of "bleh!"
Maybe I of all people shouldn't be the one to respond to this but I think if you died and had your body mangled just being able to be alive again the circumstances wouldn't matter that much.
Maybe I of all people shouldn't be the one to respond to this but I think if you died and had your body mangled just being able to be alive again the circumstances wouldn't matter that much.
Still it would have to be kind of adressed, normaly.
meh, i'd rather die and stay dead than come back as a girl. It would completely change so many relationships I have.
if this exact same thing happened to a character in Naruto (or Bleach) the general public would trash the idea and make a bunch of Naru/Sasu/kishimoto-is-into-glbt-relationship jokes
Personally I'm cool with Kite being revived as long as we get a decent explanation for it eventually other than what Ging just briefly mentioned.
That kinda reminds me,did Pitou remove Kite's brain and feed it to Her Insectoid Majesty?That would explain much and make it all a lot more plausible in my book.
I love how everyone (Kaito especially) doesn't seem disturbed or frustrated that Kaito's gender has changed. I know this is fiction, but I can't help but think being reborn and having your gender reversed would be kind of "bleh!"
(Ging: Oh hey Kaito, you aren't dead and are living on through the body of another girl whose spirit no longer enhabits it now. Busy month huh? Hey Gon probably wants to talk to you)
Maybe he's a male body with female personality? Like Killua's brother
This manga
Eh, that's par for the course for this manga. And nothing about Chimera Ant biology makes any sense anyway.
At what point did they stop looking like ants?
Is that girl killed by the ant with a gun really Ponzu? I mean, it's a fade to black and then someone gets killed by the ant, it could be anywhere…
Or maybe I'm just forgetting it got confirmed in the manga later on...?
@Sonic:
Is that girl killed by the ant with a gun really Ponzu? I mean, it's a fade to black and then someone gets killed by the ant, it could be anywhere…
Or maybe I'm just forgetting it got confirmed in the manga later on...?
I think the black panel is either in the edited weekly jump version OR it sort of symbolizes "BAM Lights out! You've just been shot in youre face"
That kinda reminds me,did Pitou remove Kite's brain and feed it to Her Insectoid Majesty?That would explain much and make it all a lot more plausible in my book.
Uh, I think that's pretty obvious that that's what happened. Kite was born from the Ant Queen after all.
Also, since the chimera ants are basically a hodgepodge of all the animals and people the queen ate, I think the implication here is that Kite's mind survived and was put into the body of the red-haired girl.
I'm not even complaining about Kaito. I just would like for there to be some sort of reason for this. This would be like Kakashi coming back as a girl after pein killed him. If this isn't going to be a plot point, it seems like Togashi's being different just for the sake of being different by switching the gender here
@No:
Still it would have to be kind of adressed, normaly.
Well this likely won't be the last time we'll see Kite and her new Koala lackey so in the future we may just see something along those lines.
if this exact same thing happened to a character in Naruto (or Bleach) the general public would trash the idea and make a bunch of Naru/Sasu/kishimoto-is-into-glbt-relationship jokes
It's a different issue when Togashi is the one writing it.
The thing is when LGBT issues are brought up in a Togashi story you can be certain it's almost always intentional. That, and he usually treats them with a caliber of respect or at the very least a tongue-in-cheek joke that doesn't have "he's gay" as the punchline. To date his 3 shonen manga (Yu Yu Hakusho, Level E, and of course Hunter X Hunter) and a few of his unreleased works (according to Togashi anyways) all have played around with LGBT issues to varying degrees and he himself has said something to the degree of having interest in the LGBT community. I'm probably mangling that quote though, I can feel it. Point is he plays around with those themes in his stories so Alluka being a transgendered child and Kite switching gender are pretty much in there just because. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Naruto either does it unintentionally or as fanservice. Bleach is probably the same way with it leaning closer on the fanservice side from my view but I suppose either of those are up for speculation.
Hmm I wonder what it says about this series or the people who post when the topic of gender identity continually comes back up in this thread haha~?
^^^^^^Fair enough
I'm not even complaining about Kaito. I just would like for there to be some sort of reason for this. This would be like Kakashi coming back as a girl after pein killed him. If this isn't going to be a plot point, it seems like Togashi's being different just for the sake of being different by switching the gender here
I'm pretty sure Kaito is now the new chimera ant queen that morau allowed to live. And queens are usually female you know
Pretty much the only chapter so far since his "return" that I have not liked, period.
Just was a complete bore of non-sense somewhat to me, boring reunite and coupled with bad art.
@No:
Personaly I don't realy like when Togashi goes on a nine page existential/moral tangent for no real reason.
Tell me about it. What's worse was just so wholly unimpressive and generic it was. I felt absolutely nothing for this "we are atoms that are recycled in the grand universe" spiel because apart from being done to death already, it was so random and lazy and forced. And I've seen this done at it's very best.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/ten_tenna_toori_no_kaidanji/v16/c137/1.html
Disregard the first ten volumes of awesome mahjong battles (or don't because mahjong is awesome). The rest of this series was solely dedicated into following a man with Alzheimer's committing assisted suicide. And it was done so well. It actually mentioned the whole we become part of the earth and are recycled thing but with much more depth and forethought. Apart from that, we delved into a ton of existential questions like the morality of death, whether there is any point in living when you lose what makes you you, how people handle the fear of death….
So forgive me if I was NOT impressed by this clunky attempt at pseudo-philosophy especially when it seems like Togashi threw it in to buffer the page count than anything else. Really, this is the silly nuclear champagne bit all over again. Togashi should learn to focus on his core characters because no one cares about the random ants and he should focus on smart, strategic drama and well thought out power systems and world building without going on a tangent with his silly philosophical non sequiturs which are either boring, generic and dull or are just terribly indecent in the way they completely contradict themselves (again see nuclear champagne, really Togashi, we were supposed to feel sorry for the ants and hatred for the humans when the ants were scorfing down like a 100 thousand humans a day?).
^^^I actually like Togashi's philosphical life chapters. The one where the king was dying and humanity was contrasted with bugs was awesome
The big problem here really was the exhaustion of this existentialist strain of Ants. Back when Togashi was really starting to indulge in it (like the bomb chapter), I didn't mind it too much, and even when the first few post-Chimera Ant arc chapters dabbled into it a bit, it was passable. The problem here is that Togashi just reinjected this random Koala ant into the series again for a lengthy thought process synonymous to what we got about twenty chapters ago. Plus, it was just utterly random. We knew the Chimera Ants would be poking into the main plotline here and there, but this came out of the blue after a revive Gon/elect the new chairman arc. It had absolutely no correlation to what we just dealt with, and honestly, if you took out the Koala's speech, nothing would be different. It's not like his presence was even remotely necessary towards the meeting of Gon and Kaito.
Like I really don't mind when Togashi tries to play with some simple moral views in his comics, but this was just downright masturbatory and really dull.
By the way, is Kaito now just a carbon copy of that little girl? It looks like he has absolutely zero beast features. Did the Queen essentially just make a human being ant? He seriously doesn't look any different than a normal little girl.
By the way, is Kaito now just a carbon copy of that little girl? It looks like he has absolutely zero beast features. Did the Queen essentially just make a human being ant? He seriously doesn't look any different than a normal little girl.
As I said. Chimera ant biology. Makes no sense.
Poor palm, she could've looked a bit more human seeing what Kaito became.
For me, the worst wasn't the art. That absurdly bad scribbling drawing has even a kind of charm to it. Like it's so mind blowingly bad that it kind of grows on you.
No, the worst, for me, was the Kaito-Gon dialogue. Sorry if I'm mistaken, but wasn't this supposed to be an incredibly heartfelt, intense moment? Kaito ain't dead, the reason Gon LOST HIS FUCKING MIND in the first place, that Kaito was dead and nothing could be done about it (well, and that he had that conflict with Pitou caring for the king and Komuri, so he wasn't 100% bad). Gon basically did something as foolish and stupid as to almost sacrifice himself. Now Kaito is, hmmm, "alive". . .shouldn't this have been an incredibly intense moment? No one will tell Gon how stupid he was? No tears? No emotive reunion with someone who's death made Gon snap???
Well, I guess not. This was incredibly underwhelming. 10 pages of Koala Buddhist rabbling, 3 pages of Gon and Kaito meeting. "Hi", "Hi. . ." "You alive. . ." "yep", "sorry", "don't mention it", "see ya", "yep, I'll call ya when I need help, but not gonna happen. Now I have a panda bodyguard".
Oh, well. At least the Yggdrasil sounds promising.
I'm pretty sure Kaito is now the new chimera ant queen that morau allowed to live. And queens are usually female you know
No a new queen comes from the king mating with a female not the queen.
I don't care that Togashi has been "sick". Take a week off and recover. Don't do THREE really bad chapters artwise in a row. The magazine lets Oda take sick weeks.
I'm starting to think 20 chapters might be Togashi's upper limit and pushing for 30 this time was overdoing it. At least he finished the arc he was on.
By the way, is Kaito now just a carbon copy of that little girl? It looks like he has absolutely zero beast features. Did the Queen essentially just make a human being ant? He seriously doesn't look any different than a normal little girl.
Probably has Ant elbows and knee caps , with little else that looks unhuman, much like the royal guards and the king himself did.
This would be like Kakashi coming back as a girl after pein killed him.
Hey, Jiraiya has to top the stupid frog suits somehow.
I kinda liked the Koala Backstory in itself, my main problem is that it really came out of nowhere. The ant arc ended 20 or so chapters ago, and this Koala was a really minor character in it. Spending 10 pages on his feeling about life is really out of place.
While I must confess I wasn't looking forward to this Kaito/Gon meeting, it could have been done in a better way.
And this art… I guess I should send some scribbles to Jump, because if that can get published, I don't see any reason why I couldn't get a chance.
Pretty bad chapter overall! And since Oda took a break, it means this week I only read terrible chapters...
@RobbyBevard:
I don't care that Togashi has been "sick". Take a week off and recover. Don't do THREE really bad chapters artwise in a row. The magazine lets Oda take sick weeks.
I'm starting to think 20 chapters might be Togashi's upper limit and pushing for 30 this time was overdoing it. At least he finished the arc he was on.
Probably has Ant elbows and knee caps , with little else that looks unhuman, much like the royal guards and the king himself did.
Hey, Jiraiya has to top the stupid frog suits somehow.
The king's whole body had that outer-shell-kinda look, that realy doesn't look too human. That and his legs were just…..gross.
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I kinda liked the Koala Backstory in itself, my main problem is that it really came out of nowhere. The ant arc ended 20 or so chapters ago, and this Koala was a really minor character in it. Spending 10 pages on his feeling about life is really out of place.
While I must confess I wasn't looking forward to this Kaito/Gon meeting, it could have been done in a better way.
And this art… I guess I should send some scribbles to Jump, because if that can get published, I don't see any reason why I couldn't get a chance.
Pretty bad chapter overall! And since Oda took a break, it means this week I only read terrible chapters...
Do not threat ! You still have the wonders of Fairy Tail to look forward to :ninja:
(Well actualy Toriko isn't out yet, so that might be the one good Jump related thing for me this week)
@No:
Do not threat ! You still have the wonders of Fairy Tail to look forward to :ninja:
(Well actualy Toriko isn't out yet, so that might be the one good Jump related thing for me this week)
I don't read Toriko, so considering the chapters I read this week, FT has some serious chances to be the best.
What a shitty week, lol !
I don't read Toriko, so considering the chapters I read this week, FT has some serious chances to be the best.
What a shitty week, lol !
….......Explain yourself.
Bleach for elementary school level philosophical bullshit
Naruto for middle school level philosophical bullshit
Hunter X Hunter for high school level philological bullshit
I don't read Toriko, so considering the chapters I read this week, FT has some serious chances to be the best.
What a shitty week, lol !
Read Beelzebub.
Bleach for elementary school level philosophical bullshit
Naruto for middle school level philosophical bullshit
Hunter X Hunter for high school level philological bullshit
This…I really agree with this.
I agree with you Robby. The dude should just take a couple weeks off to recover, or I don't know, do something other than making it look like he drew it without using his dominant hand.
I will say this about the plot of the story though…
Rule 34.
I think you mean rule 63. Rule 34 is completely different.
I don't really mind most of the philosophical parts of HxH. I felt they were mostly appropriate throughout the Ant arc due to the ants, Meruem in particular, questioning their existance. While the bomb chapter went on way too long and ended up looking more than a bit silly as a result, I think the contrast Togashi was trying to make was okay in concept but ended up going on too long and the juxtaposition of the images too ludicrious in execution.
This recent chapter is the only time I would honestly say it was pointless padding and rehashing what was more or less already covered far better earlier on. Though I'll say if it didn't go on for so many pages and was less about life the universe and everything I wouldn't mind it.
@Thousand:
I think you mean rule 63. Rule 34 is completely different.
Oh no, that's just pointing out the obvious.
I meant Rule 34.
Just wait for it… It's bound to happen...
Well, more so now that Kaito is female.
What does this mean ? www.mangareader.net/hunter-x-hunter/337/19
Look at the bottom of the page :
Next issue : Ging and Gon with many years of time passed …..
haha :D I would be laughing so hard if next chapter is a time skip. If it is then the end is coming.
Don't take editorial notes too seriously. They're completely made up and usually have no actual bearing on anything. My favorite example is still when in flashback with kid Luffy and Ace "Will they survive?"
It probably means "the 12 years that have already passed before their first meeting"… and not "timeskip next week" if that's what you're thinking.
@RobbyBevard:
Don't take editorial notes too seriously. They're completely made up and usually have no actual bearing on anything. My favorite example is still when in flashback with kid Luffy and Ace "Will they survive?"
It probably means "the 12 years that have already passed before their first meeting"… and not "timeskip next week" if that's what you're thinking.
I certainly hope so. Still I'd rather be mentally prepared for the worst that togashi could do. :)
Yeah i interpreted it as "Gon and Ging are finally gonna have a real talk" type of thing. But yeah, as far as Gon and plot wise i think he still is involved in big part of the story. Gyro and him meeting was emphasized and will certainly make a turning point later on in HxH, so i don't really think his character is going on blindly in a sense
BTW I'm new to the forum so nice to meet you all. =[]
Can we talk about how awesome Jairo is going to be?
"His strong personality prevents him from listening to the queen. He can move freely with his own will. He has extreme anger and a high degree of evil motivation towards his current target." - Narrator, chapter 203
Man I love this manga
For me, the worst wasn't the art. That absurdly bad scribbling drawing has even a kind of charm to it. Like it's so mind blowingly bad that it kind of grows on you.
No, the worst, for me, was the Kaito-Gon dialogue. Sorry if I'm mistaken, but wasn't this supposed to be an incredibly heartfelt, intense moment? Kaito ain't dead, the reason Gon LOST HIS FUCKING MIND in the first place, that Kaito was dead and nothing could be done about it (well, and that he had that conflict with Pitou caring for the king and Komuri, so he wasn't 100% bad). Gon basically did something as foolish and stupid as to almost sacrifice himself. Now Kaito is, hmmm, "alive". . .shouldn't this have been an incredibly intense moment? No one will tell Gon how stupid he was? No tears? No emotive reunion with someone who's death made Gon snap???
Well, I guess not. This was incredibly underwhelming. 10 pages of Koala Buddhist rabbling, 3 pages of Gon and Kaito meeting. "Hi", "Hi. . ." "You alive. . ." "yep", "sorry", "don't mention it", "see ya", "yep, I'll call ya when I need help, but not gonna happen. Now I have a panda bodyguard".
Oh, well. At least the Yggdrasil sounds promising.
Agreed 100%, a bit disappointed. The anger we saw in Gon when he used Gungi girl as leverage over Pitou was amazing. This casual reunion feels underwhelming. Not bad though, just underwhelming
I wonder what role "How can I die like this?" mode for her nen weapon played into Kaito living
In a way the Koala-antman may be considered unimportant as of right now so having his whole spiel on how Kaito retained a girl body let alone on how chimera ants work is pretty interesting. With that said is it possible that this character will later be introduced and may be involved in the Jairo and Gon situation. Since he's a Chimera ant it's highly likely that he may be introduced again in such affairs IMO. That's one of the only way i can see this character progressing in the story. :ninja:
@RobbyBevard:
Don't take editorial notes too seriously. They're completely made up and usually have no actual bearing on anything. My favorite example is still when in flashback with kid Luffy and Ace "Will they survive?"
It probably means "the 12 years that have already passed before their first meeting"… and not "timeskip next week" if that's what you're thinking.
I also remember "What will happen to Leorio….!?" when the next chapter was all about Killua and Illumi.
Since he's a Chimera ant it's highly likely that he may be introduced again in such affairs IMO.
Yeah, but even if he reappears, it won't happen anytime soon. You just have to read the Jairo/Gon meeting to know that Kaito won't play an active role before at least 40 or so chapters.Thus the Koala backstory feel really out of place.
And welcome to AP by the way.