Phlemingo, as Ivotas said, the golden mushi doesn't seem to have such a reciever.
Enies Lobby: When the Dust Clears…
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OH yeahh… I remember the button. Well, as someone in the earlier pages mentioned, the snail doesn't look like a snail, rather an object, so it might just get crushed after all.
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What is the posibility that Franky join the crew and the Franky Family too, as sailors???
On the other hand, any idea about what did Franky do with the 200.000.000 b????
For one they would have to have a HUGE ship to house all of them. I also dont think Luffy likes to have anyone thats not super strong. He chooses the best, he only wants the best. I would like the series to go on with a small amount of crew members.
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I also dont think Luffy likes to have anyone thats not super strong. He chooses the best, he only wants the best.
Quoted for truth. I can only wheep as I think of the many directions the crew could have gone in had Gaimon and his immense powers joined the crew like Luffy asked. All opponents would have instantly cowered in front of Gaimon's impressive afro, and my guess is his fuzzy eyebrows would have been a weapon to reckon with.
Unfortunately, the series would allow no room for this, with Luffy being the protagonist, after all. Gaimon would just have ended up stealing the show all the time.
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The only person equal to him in power is Crocus.
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**The money franky took from Ussop, will most likley help the strawhats in some way. Seeing as how he dreams to build a ship that will make it to the end of the Grand Line. My guess is that he used the money for parts or to build the ship.
I'm thinking the buster call will get summoned, but Luffy and co. will find a way to escape. There is no way they can fight the Buster call at this point in time. and survive. I'm not sure exactly how they are gonna get about un noticed by the buster call. Even if it isn't summoned 'm sure Oda will show us a glimpse of it's power.**
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And your point is? Nezumi is a East Blue Marine Brach 16 retard captain that can´t be compared to Marine HQ guys like Smoker or Hina who both seem to have potential for more then just beeing a captain.
I seriously doubt that somebody like Nezumi could ever become a Marine HQ Vice-Admiral, since he even isn´t a Marine HQ Captain.
I think though it does imply problems with the Marine's operation.
Either there's miserable oversight; nobody ever noticed Nezumi on the take or Morgan ruling like a madman
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The Marine is so desperate for warm bodies to fill uniforms they'll settle for obviously flawed officers.
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I think though it does imply problems with the Marine's operation.
Either there's miserable oversight; nobody ever noticed Nezumi on the take or Morgan ruling like a madman
Well it seems that the main focus of the WG and its military forces is the Grand Line. Seeing it as Clover asked what the WG is doing at Ohara which is in West Blue I don´t think it´s too far off.
I´m not saying the WG isn´t present in the Blue´s I´m just saying that the concentration of it lays within the Grand Line. Therefore the strongest Marines are probably used for that part of the world while failures like Morgan or Nezumi are let loose on East Blue instead of wasting an precious officer to uninteresting territories.
After all, the only really strong Marine officer in East Blue was Smoker and he was stationed at a place that literally was checking out the Grand Line´s entrance. He took care of the Pirates that came to LogueTown before entering the Grand Line. With this he is actually protecting the Grand Line from letting even more scum enter it.
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**Captians strengh do differ. Depending most likley on where you are stationed. Nezimu was a dumbass east-blue captian. Also the east-blue is the weakest of the four blues, as stated by Mihawk.
I can promise you Captians stationed in the marine HQ are just about always going to be more powerful than those in the blues. Seeing as how everyone makes a big fuss about being a marine HQ captian.
Smoker is an exeption. Being of a high rank is not only about strengh, but your smarts as well. I'm pretty sure the only reason smoker isn't of a higher rank or a HQ captian is because he never listens. Or he could have had chose to be stationed near the Grand line. But even then it seems like he has been quite far into the grand line before, seeing as how croc spoke of him and his meeting with ACE seemed to suggest they've met before.**
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The citizens of Water Seven would, I'm sure. There IS some evidence to support his words. Franky could reveal himself as Cutty Flam, people could potentially remember Spandam as the CP5 agent that took Tom. Unlikely, though. I like Doskoi-Pandaman's idea about him blackmailing the World Government more, really.
What if the Straw Hats stole the Buster Call snail? Granted, using it would probably just broadcast their location to those who'd be performing it. But still, the fact that a PIRATE CREW has the ability to wield Buster Call at all would scare the hell out of the WG. And it'd make a heck of a trophy for the crew.
I can see Nami stealing it, because its "Golden". That would make the WG pretty scared of the Straw-hats.
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And your point is?
I was answering Ibotas, that we already know incompetent and corrupts oficials in the Marines.
Kinai.
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@Octogon:
I'm thinking the buster call will get summoned, but Luffy and co. will find a way to escape. There is no way they can fight the Buster call at this point in time. and survive. I'm not sure exactly how they are gonna get about un noticed by the buster call. Even if it isn't summoned 'm sure Oda will show us a glimpse of it's power.
After hearing Luffy's speech before using Gear 2, I hardly think he's going to be running away from Buster Call. I would just like to see Robin's expression if Luffy surpassed Buster Call…
But, I think it's more likely the Buster Call won't be used... whether that golden den den mushi is a dud or gets disabled...
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@3-Headed:
After hearing Luffy's speech before using Gear 2, I hardly think he's going to be running away from Buster Call. I would just like to see Robin's expression if Luffy surpassed Buster Call…
But, I think it's more likely the Buster Call won't be used... whether that golden den den mushi is a dud or gets disabled...
Luffy knows when to run. As of now hes no match fo the buster call.
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@Steel:
I can see Nami stealing it, because its "Golden". That would make the WG pretty scared of the Straw-hats.
How? It's not like the Strawhats can call the Marines on themselves.
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@Cap'n:
How? It's not like the Strawhats can call the Marines on themselves.
But, they would still have something that would shake the Marines up a little. It's not the fact that they are going to use it. They might as well destroy it.
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Well, I could see rigging a device which would activate it on a delay. They set that up, sail for anywhere else, and then the Buster Call goes off, diverting massive resources to an empty coral reef in the middle of nowhere.
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That would be incredibly lame.
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I don't think the golden den den mushi can be so easily destroyed. It looks strong. It doesn't seem to have a reciever either, probaley just a big red button. There is also something fishy about Ao-kiji giving it to him like that. Almost like he knew luffy was gonna get there.
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I just had a wild thought: What if the Golden Snail Phone is a complete and total bluff? Yes, it can call Buster Call, but what if you need some kind of passcode to initiate it? What if, should that be the case, Kiji didn't give Spandam the code (either out of laziness or because he didn't want Spandam having the power)? After all, it's the threat of Buster Call that has kept Robin compliant. There really isn't any need to actually use it so long as Robin stays obedient.
I see this as being the most likely. Just imagine:
CP9 is defeated, Spandam tries to escape, Luffy catches up, Spandam presses the button… nothing happens. Spandam makes "WTF???!!!!11" face, Luffy wipes him out. :3Luffy knows when to run.
Uh, no he doesn't. He fought Aokiji even though there was no hope of him winning recall what the Admiral said:
"You planned this so I can't touch you crew… or was it, that you actually thought you could win?"
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Uh, no he doesn't. He fought Aokiji even though there was no hope of him winning recall what the Admiral said:
"You planned this so I can't touch you crew… or was it, that you actually thought you could win?"
There is that, but also remember back in Alabasta as soon as Luffy caught sight of Smoker he ran for it, because he knew very well his powers were useless against him. Kiji was still mostly an unknown, AND, as Kiji himself said, Luffy could have been sacrificing himself to save his crew just as easily as he could've been seriously trying to win. Either way, he was giving his crew the opportunity to run themselves.
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Uh, no he doesn't. He fought Aokiji even though there was no hope of him winning recall what the Admiral said:
"You planned this so I can't touch you crew… or was it, that you actually thought you could win?"
**Of course he does. Either way he wanted for his crew to escape. Which is why he commanded Sanji and Zoro to leave. He knows when to fight and whennot to. Has he not fought with Ao-kiji all the mugiwaras would've died. I'm sure it was the " he thought he could win" but there is no doubt in my mind he did it so his crew could escape.
When he doesn't have a reason to fight he doesn't. He let bellamy mop the floor with him. But when bellamy got in the way of the gold, he whooped his arse.**
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@Octogon:
**Of course he does. Either way he wanted for his crew to escape. Which is why he commanded Sanji and Zoro to leave. He knows when to fight and whennot to. Has he not fought with Ao-kiji all the mugiwaras would've died. I'm sure it was the " he thought he could win" but there is no doubt in my mind he did it so his crew could escape.
When he doesn't have a reason to fight he doesn't. He let bellamy mop the floor with him. But when bellamy got in the way of the gold, he whooped his arse.**
But Luffy would have a reason to fight a Buster Call… for Robin's sake. Luffy is the type to take on any odds for his nakama. I don't think Luffy had much of a reason to fight with Smoker.
I find it easier to imagine Luffy surpassing the Buster Call and getting Robin back than Robin joining the crew again to run away. It seems like a better way of ending the story arc and supporting OP's nakama theme.
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If he ran from Kiji, I probably would have stopped reading the series.
I kinda think he'll have to take on the Buster Call because of that, too. He'd have to face it sooner or later.
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from the way this thread is heading, i'd suggest a prediction contest
1 contestant is allowed 3 predictions
until the CP9 arc ends (hell knows when) closest match win…........a banana XD
anyways
i'd like to go with spandam initiating buster call just to have it delayed till everyone gets out in time so he'd get a taste of his own medicine.
robin and usopp rejoining the crew.
everyone getting new bounties.
usopp gets a bounty under the name sogeking which pisses him off.
franky joining the crew.
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I'm looking forward to see if they what their new bounties are
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my predictions:Luffy and crew get back to water7 after beating cp9
spandame lives by hiding out in a bunker during the fights heads to water 7 and starts the buster call in front of the strawhats by accident then freaks out and starts running for the nearest boat but Franky catches up to him hitting him with a strong right.
the buster call gets to water 7 as the strawhats try to get everyone out of there but they fail as know one believes Franky the criminal and iceberg also tries to warn people but it's too late.
buster call proceeds as plan and it's too much for the strawhats to handle as every ship in the harbor has been destroyed except for Franky's secret ship that isn't completed yet but is good enough to sail.
they are kicked out of water7 by the citizens of the city in hopes that Franky will avenge them and iceberg chooses to stay with his city along with Paulie and the shipwrights defending it to the end.
Last scenes of water 7 is Franky crying on his new ship with the strawhats and Franky family(who were in the ship maintain it not aware of the carnage outside) Nico robin also has a emotional breakdown seeing that her fear has not been defeated but seemingly has gotten stronger due to advancements in technology for the marine ship's involved in the buster call over the last 20 years.
giving a new determination for the strawhats to defeat the marines not only for their crimes against Robin but also their act's toward franky as well.
they will get their big bountys after the next mini-arc after being spotted on a small island by a marine officer the strawhats won't get a bounty until then because the marines would have thought that they were all killed.
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That sounds like a very good dramatic way to end this arc. I'll lean towards that , but something in the back of my had is telling me that's not how it'll go down.
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it may have too much drama but water7 has been a drama type arc
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I can't see Luffy taking on the Buster Call. Or the strawhats.
But whatever the outcome- the Government will have to take the Strawhats seriously now. They are getting stronger, and will only get more Dangerous to the Government. -
**I don't think any mugiwqra can take on the buster call yet.
I doubt they will really take him seriously. As there are other people with the ability to easily sack enies lobby. but they will defnatley be labled as a "potiental" threat. Not so much because of their strengh but because of Robin and Franky.**
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The Strawhats do something that no one in a 100 years has done to the World Government and you think they are not going to take it seriously.
Besides, you could take Cocoro´s statement from ch 388 as Oda´s guarantee that Luffy will be taken seriously. The author doesn´t place such statements there for nothing.
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The Strawhats do something that no one in a 100 years has done to the World Government and you think they are not going to take it seriously.
I never said they wouldn't take it seriously, on the contrary they will. The balance of the Gouresi's world will be thrown off. But I don't think they will label him as a threat. I think they consider a threat, someone who has he ability and history to show that they can go directly interfiere with the gouresi's plan.
Besides, you could take Cocoro´s statement from ch 388 as Oda´s guarantee that Luffy will be taken seriously. The author doesn´t place such statements there for nothing.
**He will be known world-wide as the man who sacked enies lobby IF he WG decides to let this go public Otherwise he would be known as a man with a really big bounty. . There wil be people that know, but will their be enoughf? For the people of the world to truly know what he has done, they would have to see it spoken from the WG directly.
His became much more well known and a new bounty was placed on his head when he defeated croc. The same thing will happen, but to a larger scale. People will know and fear him.
Hopw you know what I mean:wacko:**
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Yeah, uh, he sort of lay utter waste to the doorstep of the world government, and brought down their strongest group of secret agents. You can bet your ass they'll be pretty ticked off.
Keeping the whole thing secret sounds ludicrous. The whole Crocodile case was totally different, as Luffy actually did a good thing. Now, however, he's directly assaulting the government and they'll spout it all over the planet to propaganda his being a heartless criminal pirate as much as they can. Just raising the bounty won't be nearly as effective as making the whole world believe he's a monstrosity bent on taking over the world or something. This sounds like an opportunity they'd jump at.
Luffy's first bounty raises weren't taken seriously by anyone because no one had actually heard of him prior to finding out about it. As such, even with 100 million, he still pretty much remained a nobody. Keeping him a nobody won't do the government any good if they can put him out to be a dangerous criminal, with solid evidence to boot.
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**When luffy trashed eines lobby, he will be known world wide. He will probaley get anew bounty, as well as the other mugiwaras. The WG will be pissed. and then they will make up some exuse on what happned to eines lobby. They are not going to tell the world a couple of carpenders and a few pirates did that to eines lobby. It would hurt them to much.
We are all assuming that luffy is really close actually hurting the WG. And he already is. They said it was the first steps to the WG. but I assure you their are going to be many more "steps" until the WG considers him an actual threat. Luffy and his crew don't have the power yet to storm Marejoa.**
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I'll lay it out neatly: They're ravaging the Island of Law, one of the government's biggest strongholds. They're beating over then thousand forces of marines. And taking down none other than the all powerful secret CP9.
Yeah, I'm sure the government'll just brush it off.
''Psh, ten thousand marines? Get back to us when you've got some real news.''
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@Mog:
I'll lay it out neatly: They're ravaging the Island of Law, one of the government's biggest strongholds. They're beating over then thousand forces of marines. And taking down none other than the all powerful secret CP9.
Yeah, I'm sure the government'll just brush it off.
''Psh, ten thousand marines? Get back to us when you've got some real news.''
**When did I say they will just brush it off? They won't. I said they will start taking the strawhats more seriously. But I do not believe that they will label them as a threat.
The WG has three reasons to take the strawhats seriously after Water 7. They are Robin, Franky and the fact that the strahats will directly mess up the WG if they get in their way.
For all we know WhiteBeard has done something more troublesome to the WG, and the chances are that he has.**
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Let us say this:
Luffy will be seen as a threat, but not as big as one of the biggest - Whitebeard/Shanks and so on - ? :)
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Let us say this:
Luffy will be seen as a threat, but not as big as one of the biggest - Whitebeard/Shanks and so on - ? :)
Hmmmm, I can agree with that. But I think our defination of "threat" is different. When I say threat I mean direct danger to the gourseithemselves.
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Yeah, I think we do. But, wouldn't Luffy in a way be just that? Seeing that just a little kid who was no one just a year or so ago crushed the entire "front" of the WG. Wouldn't that give the impression that the WG and Marine is weak, that, if something is a direct threat if you ask me. Hope is the deepest, best and worst thing we humans have after all.
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Yeah, I think we do. But, wouldn't Luffy in a way be just that? Seeing that just a little kid who was no one just a year or so ago crush the entire "front" of the WG. Wouldn't that give the impression that the WG and Marine is weak, that, if something is a direct threat if you ask me. Hope is the deepest, best and worst thing we humans have after all.
**I'm sure their are many pirates who have been/already climbed to the top quite quickly. Ace for example is one of them. I'm sure to them luffy is just another rapidly growing induvidual. They don't know luffy like we do, and therefore don't know how seriously to really take him.
Any other pirate does not have the motivation to trash eines lobby. I'm sure had one of whitebeards men be held at enies lobby, he would have trashed it with no mercy. I think luffy will be labled as a "dangeroues induvidual". But I think labbeling him as an actual threat to the WG is going a little to far. Seeing as how they know he won't simply destroy every government facility he sees.**
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@Octogon:
I never said they wouldn't take it seriously, on the contrary they will. The balance of the Gouresi's world will be thrown off. But I don't think they will label him as a threat. I think they consider a threat, someone who has he ability and history to show that they can go directly interfiere with the gouresi's plan.
Your post up there, you said they wouldn't take him seriously. I also do believe that when someone takes you seriously in the world government -> pirate sense, they don't really take you seriously as anything else other than a threat. Now, why can't Mugiwara pirates directly interfere with the gourosei's plans? They have Nico Robin, Cutty Flam, builders of ancient weapons.He will be known world-wide as the man who sacked enies lobby IF he WG decides to let this go public Otherwise he would be known as a man with a really big bounty. . There wil be people that know, but will their be enoughf? For the people of the world to truly know what he has done, they would have to see it spoken from the WG directly.
**> His became much more well known and a new bounty was placed on his head when he defeated croc. The same thing will happen, but to a larger scale. People will know and fear him.Hopw you know what I mean:wacko:
… WHAT? Your above paragraph contradicts the bottom one. First you say he will be known world wide IF the government lets it loose. THEN you say he will become very well known but on a larger scale that with croc. Mark my words, rumours spread. Even if the government keep it hush hush, people will be like "isn't that the man who wrecked enies lobby? help!"**
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Your post up there, you said they wouldn't take him seriously. I also do believe that when someone takes you seriously in the world government -> pirate sense, they don't really take you seriously as anything else other than a threat. Now, why can't Mugiwara pirates directly interfere with the gourosei's plans? They have Nico Robin, Cutty Flam, builders of ancient weapons.
Yes, I guess they could. but I don't think they feel having Robin as a mugiwara is any different than having her work for croc.
… WHAT? Your above paragraph contradicts the bottom one. First you say he will be known world wide IF the government lets it loose. THEN you say he will become very well known but on a larger scale that with croc. Mark my words, rumours spread. Even if the government keep it hush hush, people will be like "isn't that the man who wrecked enies lobby? help!"
You misunderstood. I meant that either way he will become known world-wide. And like you said rumors spread, which I believe will be te main reason he will be so known. People at water 7 will most likley know what happned, but I doubt the cities up ahead will know much if anything about how enies lobby got trashed.
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@Octogon:
Yes, I guess they could. but I don't think they feel having Robin as a mugiwara is any different than having her work for croc.
After the enies lobby incident, with all the eyewitnesses of the CP9 and all, they sure as hell would know that Robin is a dedicated member of the straw hats and a great danger to the world. Hence the straw hats would be dangerous.You misunderstood. I meant that either way he will become known world-wide. And like you said rumors spread, which I believe will be te main reason he will be so known. People at water 7 will most likley know what happned, but I doubt the cities up ahead will know much if anything about how enies lobby got trashed.
A big ass bounty and nobody explains why? Plus, Enies Lobby got thrashed? People'll put 2 and 2 together. Besides, don't underestimate the power of rumour. Lols.
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@fy3:
from the way this thread is heading, i'd suggest a prediction contest
1 contestant is allowed 3 predictions
until the CP9 arc ends (hell knows when) closest match win…........a banana XD
anyways
i'd like to go with spandam initiating buster call just to have it delayed till everyone gets out in time so he'd get a taste of his own medicine.
robin and usopp rejoining the crew.
everyone getting new bounties.
usopp gets a bounty under the name sogeking which pisses him off.
franky joining the crew.
and the crew hijacking one of the ships during buster call :PA banana huh? YOU ARE ON!!!
I'd go with CP9 loses, Spandam goes berserk by pressing the Golden Den Den Mushi but there's a catch…he tells the Mugiwara that the buster call is headed for Water 7. (No one will blow up E.L as the WG owns the place - W7 has Iceberg and originally they thought he had the blueprints and BC was their ace to get him to give it up) but since the BC are battle ships...they have a time line of 24 hour b4 the BC strikes =(
Luffy + Franky + Paulie has a flash back of Water 7, kicks the crap out of Spandam and leaves Enies Lobby ASAP to rush back to warn the ppl of Water 7. :laugh:
On the Train, Nami explains that they are going to need a ship if they are going to escape W7 alive let alone take on an Armada of ships, Usopp explains that Merry is dead, the Mugiwara is shipless...meanwhile, Franky + the F. Family has a group discussion on how to safe W7, Franky decides that is it time to unleash his own weapon - the-anti-buster-call-anti-ancient-weapon-undistructible-new-ship-OMEGA FRANKY XD . The train makes a detour to an uncharted island where Franky stored the OMEGA FRANKY. I think the island is called "Franky land".
But due to the detour, they are a few hours short of the BC, Franky assures that the ship will be there early as it runs on motors + sails. Usopp + Luffy gets a grand tour of the ship. Luffy + Chopper goes all ga-ga over the ship!!!
They arrive at W7 with 30 minutes to spare, warns Iceburg about the BC thats coming, prepares the final defences but 30 minutes is just not enuff time, Luffy decides to take the BC head on, Franky + Iceburg + everybody else objects. Luffy brushes them off saying he will do it alone if no one follows him. Franky explains the uses of the OMEGA FRANKY and Nami then lays out an anti BC plan to save W7...
BC arrives and in the middle of the sea, Luffy stands alone on the deck of Going Merry (Iceburg found it and repaired it abit for a grand finale), Luffy shouts that he will be the Pirate King!!! All the attention is then concentrated on Luffy. OMEGA FRANKY is actually a submarine too. The BC is not ready for this...AN ALL OUT BATTLE ensues with the BC fleet. The battle destroys abit of everything including W7.
But most damage is on the BC fleet itself. Then a scene where the remaining BC ship, aims its cannons at Merry (with Luffy still in it!!) unleashes the BC on 1 small ship and that's how Merry really dies...=(
the WG thinks that Luffy is dead too...it was all worth it...leaves W7.
OMEGA FRANKY emerges, shows Luffy standing on the decks with Usopp crying over watever remains of Merry (mebe half of Merry's head)...=(W7 is saved, a party happens, Luffy invites Franky to join his crew & Usopp re-joins the crew. (Robin already decided to follow Luffy forever after he defeated CP9)
they set sail at first light - the WG is shocked that the Mugiwaras' are still alive, gives a huge ass bounty to Luffy and the rest gets a bounty!!!:laugh:
New arc...journey to the center of the world!!!<3
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After the enies lobby incident, with all the eyewitnesses of the CP9 and all, they sure as hell would know that Robin is a dedicated member of the straw hats and a great danger to the world. Hence the straw hats would be dangerous.
You have a good point. the straw hats can also be seen as dangerous because they went through the trouble of rescuing robin, Which could give the WG the idea that he WANTS to upset the WG.
A big ass bounty and nobody explains why? Plus, Enies Lobby got thrashed? People'll put 2 and 2 together. Besides, don't underestimate the power of rumour. Lols.\
I doubt the rumors will go very far. People can place 2 and 2 toeghter. But Luffy is not the only pirate in the world. there are many candidates. Very, very few people will aactually be able to put the pieces toeghter.
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@Octogon:
I doubt the rumors will go very far. People can place 2 and 2 toeghter. But Luffy is not the only pirate in the world. there are many candidates. Very, very few people will aactually be able to put the pieces toeghter.
Oh well, maybe, maybe not, but fact is people are so going to get stumped at his bounty XD Can't wait to see the faces of past acquaintances.
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Oh well, maybe, maybe not, but fact is people are so going to get stumped at his bounty XD Can't wait to see the faces of past acquaintances.
**I'm sure we'll see shanks. And if Ussop gets a bounty ( which he has to) yassop will be shocked. Can';t wait to see shanks.
We will probaley get a glimpse of Donflamingo.
I'm also thinking there will e another meeting, and we might see more shichbukai/ Marines.**
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@Octogon:
Yes, I guess they could. but I don't think they feel having Robin as a mugiwara is any different than having her work for croc.
Two things. First the WG didn´t even know that Robin was a part of Croc´s organisation. In fact, they didn´t even know that Croc had a secret organisation. They found both out after Smoker left Rain Base to report to his superiors and they immediately sent out a Marine fleet to take care of all the criminals there. They would have never allowed Crocodile to get that far if they would have known that he is working together with Nico Robin. The sole fact that he works together with her would have been prove that his ideals work against those of the WG.
And secondly, Aokiji even says that the Strawhats are now especially dangerous because Nico Robin is a part of their crew. Aokiji went to Longring Longland to confirm that. Back when the Gorousei was dealing with Luffy´s new bounty they didn´t even know that Nico Robin has joined his crew.
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Two things. First the WG didn´t even know that Robin was a part of Croc´s organisation. In fact, they didn´t even know that Croc had a secret organisation. They found both out after Smoker left Rain Base to report to his superiors and they immediately sent out a Marine fleet to take care of all the criminals there. They would have never allowed Crocodile to get that far if they would have known that he is working together with Nico Robin. The sole fact that he works together with her would have been prove that his ideals work against those of the WG.
I know that they didn't know. They did howevr know she was in other orginizations. My point is that until now the to the WG, robin being a mugiwara was no different than her being in any other orginization.
And secondly, Aokiji even says that the Strawhats are now especially dangerous because Nico Robin is a part of their crew. Aokiji went to Longring Longland to confirm that. Back when the Gorousei was dealing with Luffy´s new bounty they didn´t even know that Nico Robin has joined his crew.
**My point exactly. They didn't take luffy too seruoisly even after he defeated crocodile. What does this tell you? To me it shows that the strawhats are nowhere near the top. And naturally there would be amany pirates filling the gap between him and whitebeard, And I'm sure their are many on his level.
Robin is the the danger. Luffy isn't so dangeroues to the WG as she is.**
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@Octogon:
I know that they didn't know. They did howevr know she was in other orginizations. My point is that until now the to the WG, robin being a mugiwara was no different than her being in any other orginization.
The WG is chasing Robin for 20 years. If they would have had a clue where she was they would have taken her. I´m sure that no matter in what organisation she has worked before BW, nobody in the WG would know that she was a part of it. If they would have known, they would have come to take all of them down.
How did they find out that she was part of those organisations you may ask. Easy. They found probably out the same way they found out about BW. The organisations were destroyed and then they began to investigate who was part of it. That´s the only logic way how they could have found out. Because as I stated above, if they would have known that Robin was there while these organisations were still intact, they would have come to take her.
My point exactly. They didn't take luffy too seruoisly even after he defeated crocodile. What does this tell you? To me it shows that the strawhats are nowhere near the top. And naturally there would be amany pirates filling the gap between him and whitebeard, And I'm sure their are many on his level.
Robin is the the danger. Luffy isn't so dangeroues to the WG as she is.
I don´t understand where the idea that Luffy isn´t been taken serious is coming from. Of course random people don´t know why Luffy got this high bounty because if the WG would tell the truth, then the whole world would know how incompetent they are and that Luffy did a good thing. Telling the truth would mean that they are shooting themselves in the knee. So they just raise Luffy´s bounty and let everyone else clueless about what Luffy really did.
The WG itself does take him seriously. In chapter 233 the Gorousei themselves said:"And now the man who defeated him… We cannot allow him to run free either... Monkey D. Luffy...".
That doesn´t sound like a statement that indicates that they don´t take him serious. The Strawhats are even on the agenda of the meeting in Maryjoa. If he wouldn´t be taken serious then he wouldn´t be on the agenda of a meeting where the head of the Marine and three Shichibukai if they are present.
To me the chapters 233 and 234 show that the WG and the Marine is taking Luffy serious. They maybe aren´t taking him for a threat as Whitebeard but none the less they take him serioulsy IMO. After all defeating a Shichibukai is a small thing that happens everyday.
Oh and before anybody throws the question in why we didn´t see Luffy been taken seriously by the WG after the Maryjoa meeting. The one and only Marine we saw meeting the Strawhats was Aokiji and he beat up Luffy and let him go afterwards because he owed him one. And the other allied people to the WG are CP9. And Lucci and the others had to let him go because it was a deal and Spandam of course doesn´t take him seriously because he´s a complete moron that only understands things when it is too late.
There never was any time to show how Luffy was taken seriously be the WG. In Skypiea there was neither the Marine nor the WG, at Longring Longland there was the Aokiji thing and at Water 7/Enies Lobby there´s the CP9 thing.