BTW Do you think Coribou will join this arc later on as well
Official Fishman Island Discussion
-
-
And how will our heroes avoid capture?
-
I think that the princess might get bigger when she's actually scared.
The place she lives at doesn't seems the kind of place you would call a princess bedroom and i don't think her father would put her in a gloomy place like this.So being huge must be a temporary problem.
As for a future Nakama or what the hell. I think there will be one. just for one fact. Fishmen Island is gonna be destroyed . So , the people living would have no-where to go (this place has been said being the only place where you could live underwater by Neptune himself in this chapter).
So being a princess or not does not change this fact (not that i think she would join). The dream or what you call the reason to join SH would be most-likely to pursue revenge (for what i see Hodi jones is gonna destroy fishmen island and cariboo is gonna kidnap the princess..she'll end up being saved by the SH..and cariboo run away..)
I dont think Van der Decken is a bad guy..i see him as a weak character who will try to save FH from Hodi Jones but will get beaten..harshly and end up saving the most fismen/mermaid he can (most probably the underwater volcano we've seen in the start of the arc will be the way the island will be destroyed).
I don't see Big mam being involved in this arc..but she will think at Luffy has the one who have destroy FH.
And that's how sue see it :ninja:.
-
I think that the princess might get bigger when she's actually scared.
The place she lives at doesn't seems the kind of place you would call a princess bedroom and i don't think her father would put her in a gloomy place like this.So being huge must be a temporary problem.
As for a future Nakama or what the hell. I think there will be one. just for one fact. Fishmen Island is gonna be destroyed . So , the people living would have no-where to go (this place has been said being the only place where you could live underwater by Neptune himself in this chapter).
So being a princess or not does not change this fact (not that i think she would join). The dream or what you call the reason to join SH would be most-likely to pursue revenge (for what i see Hodi jones is gonna destroy fishmen island and cariboo is gonna kidnap the princess..she'll end up being saved by the SH..and cariboo run away..)
I dont think Van der Decken is a bad guy..i see him as a weak character who will try to save FH from Hodi Jones but will get beaten..harshly and end up saving the most fismen/mermaid he can (most probably the underwater volcano we've seen in the start of the arc will be the way the island will be destroyed).
I don't see Big mam being involved in this arc..but she will think at Luffy has the one who have destroy FH.
And that's how sue see it :ninja:.
Big mam IS the princess :ninja:
-
-
Big mam IS the princess :ninja:
Big Mama is a yonkou if she was anything it would be a queen and be stupid her staying at fishman island also we have the mermaid princess.
-
I think the Destruction of FI is related to the Tree of Eve or Something like that. and i hope this Tree Is located on Marijoa.
-
I think the Destruction of FI is related to the Tree of Eve or Something like that. and i hope this Tree Is located on Marijoa.
What an interesting idea! Well I can most certainly see how that could lead to a situation that would give Luffy reason somehow to "destroy" FI.
-
Another possibility (which i just want to throw out to you) would be that Mariyoa could somehow cover the Sunny tree of Eve and by that turn FI into eternal darkness because when the treetop doesn
t get light..so does the roots. That could be somehow seen as Luffys fault and by that make him the scapegoat. By that we would have an explanation why Luffy visits Marijoa in the end (which i don
t doubt will happen someday)
Just a thought i had right now. -
@Don:
Another possibility (which i just want to throw out to you) would be that Mariyoa could somehow cover the Sunny tree of Eve and by that turn FI into eternal darkness because when the treetop doesn
t get light..so does the roots. That could be somehow seen as Luffys fault and by that make him the scapegoat. By that we would have an explanation why Luffy visits Marijoa in the end (which i don
t doubt will happen someday)
Just a thought i had right now.Thats interessting…..and as we know, Luffy is The one Responsible for FI Destruction, so i think it would for the sake of the Fishmen.
Another possiblty i'd like to throw out too, is....In case Luffy go to Marijoa, if a Fight broke out there. the probability of The Tree of eve being damaged is high ! (well, whatever....Why am i talking as if im sure The tree is located on marijoa)
-
@Don:
Another possibility (which i just want to throw out to you) would be that Mariyoa could somehow cover the Sunny tree of Eve and by that turn FI into eternal darkness because when the treetop doesn
t get light..so does the roots. That could be somehow seen as Luffys fault and by that make him the scapegoat. By that we would have an explanation why Luffy visits Marijoa in the end (which i don
t doubt will happen someday)
Just a thought i had right now.Let me see if I really understand your idea–are you suggesting that the Teryubito are so currupt that somehow they manage to cause damage to or cover up the Eve Tree either for some strange whim, or even because they learn of it's connection to FI and the well being of it's people, and do so deliberately to bring harm to or destry FI? That's certainly an interesting possibility as well. My only argument against it would be that the 5 Elders are there, according to what we've seen, and I've begun to suspect that because of this, the inevitable conflict with Mariejois (sp?) will be something that waits until the war against the WG that comes after Luffy gets to Raftel and becomes PK.
-
@I:
Let me see if I really understand your idea–are you suggesting that the Teryubito are so currupt that somehow they manage to cause damage to or cover up the Eve Tree either for some strange whim, or even because they learn of it's connection to FI and the well being of it's people, and do so deliberately to bring harm to or destry FI? That's certainly an interesting possibility as well. My only argument against it would be that the 5 Elders are there, according to what we've seen, and I've begun to suspect that because of this, the inevitable conflict with Mariejois (sp?) will be something that waits until the war against the WG that comes after Luffy gets to Raftel and becomes PK.
I have a feeling that Luffy will repeat what Tiger did on Marijoa, it would Makes FI his Allies (Which is neded for the Final War), and would be a Big News of the SHs since 2 years ago. and you know….Luffy Like adventure and would never miss the chance to visit marijoa. doesn't matter for him if its forbidden for Outlaws cause he want to be free
-
I don't think that overthrowing the WG and attacking Mariejoa have to be the exact same thing. Fisher Tiger managed to attack Mariejoa and free slaves and he didn't overthrow the WG nor do I think he was strong enough to do that if he attempted it, else he'd be just as much of a legend as Whitebeard.
I'm pretty sure that Luffy will go to Mariejoa to free slaves or whatever, in a similar way to what he did in Impel Down. He didn't defeat Magellan there either, and Magellan seemed Admiral level or close to that.
-
I have a feeling that Luffy will repeat what Tiger did on Marijoa, it would Makes FI his Allies (Which is neded for the Final War), and would be a Big News of the SHs since 2 years ago. and you know….Luffy Like adventure and would never miss the chance to visit marijoa. doesn't matter for him if its forbidden for Outlaws cause he want to be free
I do indeed expect Luffy to at the least visit the island at some point, and I agree that I can't see him just doing it without taking action. It's far too important to the story as a location to be just minor arc for the SHs. See below for further expounding on what I meant.
I don't think that overthrowing the WG and attacking Mariejoa have to be the exact same thing. Fisher Tiger managed to attack Mariejoa and free slaves and he didn't overthrow the WG nor do I think he was strong enough to do that if he attempted it, else he'd be just as much of a legend as Whitebeard.
I'm pretty sure that Luffy will go to Mariejoa to free slaves or whatever, in a similar way to what he did in Impel Down. He didn't defeat Magellan there either, and Magellan seemed Admiral level or close to that.
Well that can be true, that the trwo events will be separate, but a couple points I want to mention:
1–Fisher Tiger did attack Mariejois and free slaves, but he did not overthrow the system as it existed, which is why it still exists today. I expect Luffy will in fact go one better and destroy the system when he goes there.
2--I do think the elder stars will be major players in the end war, and they seem to spend all or most of their time, along with Vegapunk, in Mariejois. If Luffy destroys the system and the place there to the extent that the Elder Stars are affected enough to have to leave and the Celestial Dragons are overthrown permanently, that seems more end of the WG type of stuff, but of course it could be a step in that direction, and Gladiator's point above about having denizens of FI as allies in that end war is a strong one. Hmm. More thought and time in teh manga to supply more info are needed on this obviously. Still--so exciting to think about it.
-
@I:
Let me see if I really understand your idea–are you suggesting that the Teryubito are so currupt that somehow they manage to cause damage to or cover up the Eve Tree either for some strange whim, or even because they learn of it's connection to FI and the well being of it's people, and do so deliberately to bring harm to or destry FI? That's certainly an interesting possibility as well. My only argument against it would be that the 5 Elders are there, according to what we've seen, and I've begun to suspect that because of this, the inevitable conflict with Mariejois (sp?) will be something that waits until the war against the WG that comes after Luffy gets to Raftel and becomes PK.
My problem with that theory is that they sure know about the importance of the Eve tree (i mean in those many years someone sure was down there looking at FI after all) and that they could have done so since a long time to banish them from down there.
They havent just because of the contract between them and the fishman that they no longer hunt them. But when they somehow manage to ,let
s say making Luffy the one who is actually responsible\the trigger why they react now like this in taking away the sunlight they sure could channel all the hatred towards Luffy.Your point of having the 5 Gorousei right now in the spotlight would be to early is legitimate, but i rly don
t think that they need to be defeated\dispossessed then. Afterall they just move the figures and don
t have to be involved in that whole conflict at all..there iam also sure that they will play their mayor role in the end of OP and not when Luffy goes to Maryjoa maybe for the first time.
But we can be sure of it that the SHs will come back with a big bang and why not making Maryjoa shiver a bit without rly attacking the inner system. -
@Don:
My problem with that theory is that they sure know about the importance of the Eve tree (i mean in those many years someone sure was down there looking at FI after all) and that they could have done so since a long time to banish them from down there.
They havent just because of the contract between them and the fishman that they no longer hunt them. But when they somehow manage to ,let
s say making Luffy the one who is actually responsible\the trigger why they react now like this in taking away the sunlight they sure could channel all the hatred towards Luffy.In other words just doing what they always do–hide the truth and make themselves look good to the masses. LOL I would argue, though, that Gladiator's point about making FI allies is a strong one, and that even if the rest of the world is told otherwise, certain important citizens, if not all of them, will know the truth and become Luffy's freinds, as usually happens. (Luffy's most powerful strength being the ability to make freinds of everyone, etc ad nauseum, lol)
Your point of having the 5 Gorousei right now in the spotlight would be to early is legitimate, but i rly don
t think that they need to be defeated\dispossessed then. Afterall they just move the figures and don
t have to be involved in that whole conflict at all..there iam also sure that they will play their mayor role in the end of OP.Yeah, they could just leave, I suppose. Time will certainly tell.
-
@I:
I would argue, though, that Gladiator's point about making FI allies is a strong one, and that even if the rest of the world is told otherwise, certain important citizens, if not all of them, will know the truth and become Luffy's freinds, as usually happens. (Luffy's most powerful strength being the ability to make freinds of everyone, etc ad nauseum, lol)
That Luffy won
t travel away with every fishman seeing him as their number one target should be clear. I mean even when they see him guilty Luffy still would see it as "they are handled wrong and even when they don
t like me i will help them, because my friends live down here".
Actually it`s rly important that he has those minoritys on his side when he wants to be the true PK, but that is another point of its own.
But how do you argue about my thought with that and iam not totally sure who you mean with "certain important citizens". -
@Don:
…Actually it`s rly important that he has those minoritys on his side when he wants to be the true PK, but that is another point of its own.
But how do you argue about my thought with that and iam not totally sure who you mean with "certain important citizens".I guess I'm not arguing with your point at all, then, lol. And I didn't have any specific citizens in mind when I mentioned "certain important citizens." Just thought that as the arc progresses, it may be possible that the leaders are the ones in the know, while the rest of the citizenry may not be (much like in Alabasta, right?) It seems likely to play out that way if the leadership feels it would be safer for the FI kingdom to maintain at least a semblance of wishing to maintain friendly relations with the WG, despite secretly wanting the exact opposite due to all the stuff the WG lets slide under the radar (eg the slave trade etc).
-
@I:
I guess I'm not arguing with your point at all, then, lol.
But you`re supposed to do so BC, god dammit.
And I didn't have any specific citizens in mind when I mentioned "certain important citizens." Just thought that as the arc progresses, it may be possible that the leaders are the ones in the know, while the rest of the citizenry may not be (much like in Alabasta, right?)
Mhh, i guess that will always be the case.
Afterall in Alabasta they still think the marines stopped Croc and thats also what the WG told the world.
To openly tell their whole population that they go now with the ideology of a pirate crew may not be the best thing to do, especially when this means to openly admit that theyre against the WG. Time will come when those "certain important citizen" will make it public to everyone, but so far it wouldn
t help them,even most most of the population(especially at FI) sure share that view against the WG. -
@I:
I guess I'm not arguing with your point at all, then, lol. And I didn't have any specific citizens in mind when I mentioned "certain important citizens." Just thought that as the arc progresses, it may be possible that the leaders are the ones in the know, while the rest of the citizenry may not be (much like in Alabasta, right?) It seems likely to play out that way if the leadership feels it would be safer for the FI kingdom to maintain at least a semblance of wishing to maintain friendly relations with the WG, despite secretly wanting the exact opposite due to all the stuff the WG lets slide under the radar (eg the slave trade etc).
FI doesn't benefit of any advantages from the WG, they are not even Part of it (not confirmed) and went as far as making a deal with the Yonkou. I haven't even seen a Single Fishmen Marine…..that makes wonder about what you said if its true or not. from the last chapters it seems like FI is strong enough to protect itself From pirates, and The Big mam's protection is for The WG.
-
So… this is what fishman island really look like??
!
man, that's one really weird tree.
and they did say that FI was the only place where sunlight gathered. -
@Hespia:
So… this is what fishman island really look like??
! http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l321/Marchiris/onepieceFishmanIsland.png
man, that's one really weird tree.
and they did say that FI was the only place where sunlight gathered.you can check page 27 of chapter discussion thread.. I think someone already have a better explanation about that, ( I agree with him)
ah here u go
http://forums.arlongpark.net/showpost.php?p=2106981&postcount=526 -
FI doesn't benefit of any advantages from the WG, they are not even Part of it (not confirmed) and went as far as making a deal with the Yonkou. I haven't even seen a Single Fishmen Marine…..that makes wonder about what you said if its true or not. from the last chapters it seems like FI is strong enough to protect itself From pirates, and The Big mam's protection is for The WG.
Yeah, but they had a deal with WB while at the same time maintaining the sham, at least, of the 100 year old treaty with the WG–that was part of the reason Jinbei was a Shichibukai, iirc. And further, we were told that Jinbei had to leave in order to preserve that, I believe (correct me if my memory is playing me false here). The fact that Jinbei was the leader of the original FP is significant as to the changes that have happened to the political structure there since WBs death, not really any sort of change in the way the treaty is officially being played out on the surface of things, if that makes sense. Underneath the surface, the WG turns a blind eye to the slave trade and horrid treatment of Fish and mer-folk on SA and in Mariejoia, and in turn FI allies itself to a Yonkou.
@Don:
But you`re supposed to do so BC, god dammit.
LOL Don. I miss arguing with you too. We need to work harder at developing crack brained theories again.
-
@I:
LOL Don. I miss arguing with you too. We need to work harder at developing crack brained theories again.
Our bet will follow us till the end i guess and won
t be solved until we
re 100 yrs old.How about a FI side-bet?
Like which chara will fight which SH or yeah, like this thread showed we have more stuff to predict…just 2-3 things to have at least a little reason to follow that arc.:ninja:
I most likely wont be around till sunday, but you may PM me with some predictions you have and then we will see. Of course only when you
re not too busy banning everyone who comes your way. -
You know with theese kind of prediction its always pretty sure that it's going to happen but not the way we expect it to… so I say Luffy is going to destroy the Island... for what reason and how.. well see
-
I don't know if this was posted yet somewhere but considering Caribou is an "endless" hole or whatever, that seems like foreshadowing in the sense that he can capture anything! Including… the mermaid princess!
Peace. Toodles.
-
Started a basic map of fishman island with the sunlight explanation as a focal point. Didn't represent the double bubbles, their suspension, or them entering the top bubble yet.
!
-
I think they gonna have to fight big Mom at last… Luffy have enough of pirates, gods and shichibukais, is time to go yonkou!
-
! No it's about writing down my point. It's the same as writing down my praise to one piece as much as to criticize it for whatever reason it might be. There is no difference. Only 2 factions. People who will disagree and and people who will agree. Both will make good points why they think the way they do and if the opposite faction thinks they are not doing a good job it just means that they just don't want to agree on certain facts. And that is perfect human thing to do.
! Stating things is just having an opinion.
! I was not talking about the marines. I was talking about crews like Eustass Kid or that mob guy crew. The ones that came to SA at the same time as luffy and his crew. Of course Boney was really unlucky in that regard. This is of course one of those reasons why you should avoid going that route. Like I said drill a hole in red line and be done with it. People just lack creativity.
! It's not about if I am happy or sad when it's over. main thing is strecthing out any kind of show is never good thing. Just look how bad it ended with dragon ball series. I mean DBGT. Worse show ever and all because fans just wanted more and never had enough. I think it's always a better idea for same authors like oda, kishi, TK or whatever it may be to move on to other projects where new stories and characters might await them.
! With creativity they have I have no doubt they could pull of some amazing stuff for our children generation. No need to stretch out one piece until it becomes this repetitive adventure that no longer serve purpose. Quality over quantity.
! Even adventures should have good story structure and not some be just some loose ideas flowing around here and there.Honestly One Piece has alot of Quality. Let me tell you what the Strawhats have done in major arcs that are different from the "thousands" of other pirates that travelled in their direction.
Strawhats make it through most of the grandline with an "inferior" and banged up boat. They like the Pirate King have made it to a sky island and defeated the "god" eneru. They saved Alabasta from the rule of baroque works leader, Crocodile. And im sure that oyu know they've done alot of other unique and outstanding things that would take a page to mention. Fishmen Island is important because it pertains to a future plots. Do you think Oda killed off Whitebeard for no reason? He is compraing the SH's future difficulties from the islands' that used to be protected to that of pirates who would stop their for gifts. In short Fishmen Island is not a gag it is just as important to the series just like luffy bursting out of a barrel was.
-
i´ve been researching about the fish kinds of Hammond and "Hiccup" –>
I was not sure if Hammond was some kind of electrical eel, because i know not all eels are electrical. But apparently his kind isn´t D:
And about "Hiccup", the fish he looks more like are the blennius fishes, who has feather-like gills and ornaments. So he probably is a Butterfly Blenny, which is harmless, just a pretty fish :V
-
I was not sure if Hammond was some kind of electrical eel, because i know not all eels are electrical. But apparently his kind isn´t D:
There is no such thing as electric eels. The "electric eel" people think of is actually a freshwater knifefish that lives in the Amazon river, it's not really an eel.
-
i´ve been researching about the fish kinds of Hammond and "Hiccup" –>[qimg]http://pics.livejournal.com/skadi_glastheim/pic/00042ggk[/qimg]
I was not sure if Hammond was some kind of electrical eel, because i know not all eels are electrical. But apparently his kind isn´t D:
And about "Hiccup", the fish he looks more like are the blennius fishes, who has feather-like gills and ornaments. So he probably is a Butterfly Blenny, which is harmless, just a pretty fish :V
No, it's a Daggertooth pike conger. It's not electrical type
Un Morenocio o Congrio picudo dentón, en español XD.
-
i wonder if i´m least im right about Hiccup :P
it´s so funny, thought… if you search for the badass sharks Hodi and his nakamas are based off, wikipedia has a very long article for each. But look at Hammond´s, daggertooth pike conger, and you get a food picture, lol
-
i wonder if i´m least im right about Hiccup :P
it´s so funny, thought… if you search for the badass sharks Hodi and his nakamas are based off, wikipedia has a very long article for each. But look at Hammond´s, daggertooth pike conger, and you get a food picture, lol
A photo of a daggertooth pike conger
-
yep, that is. i had to look for pictures of him on google images, coz wikipedia only had this photo e.e
-
There is no such thing as electric eels.
You're making the claim that the Columbus Zoo lied to me when they had electric eels in an aquarium?
-
You're making the claim that the Columbus Zoo lied to me when they had electric eels in an aquarium?
I think he is truly meaning that though there is a species that has the name electric eel in english at least. Normal eels arent electric.
-
You're making the claim that the Columbus Zoo lied to me when they had electric eels in an aquarium?
Well that's what they're called, but they are not eels, they're freshwater knifefish. Real eels are only saltwater. The rest are fish that have adapted to an equivalent freshwater niche and thus have evolved similar anatomy.
-
Real eels are only saltwater. The rest are fish that have adapted to an equivalent freshwater niche and thus have evolved similar anatomy.
Real eels are diadromous.
-
Somehow I feel that Hodi or Vander aren't going the Big Bad Main Villain of the arc, they somehow feel…not "Big" enough. So far every major arc pits the SH against "Big" names : Shichibukai Corcodile, God Enel, World Government's CP9, Shichibukai Moria, Marine Admiral Kizaru.
Thus New Fishman Pirates Captain Hodi Jones, and Legendary Flying Dutchman Captain Vander Dekken somehow feels...small compared to those names above. At first, I kinda thought King of the Sea Neptune is a "Big" enough enemy, but chap 612 confirms that he is a good guy.
I think in further revelation of post-war Fishman Island will give us a clue, all we need to find out is who would benefit the most if the main forces in FI clashed.
! World Government? If they can gain control of FI territory, they would gain control of every possible entrance towards the New World. And that helps a great deal in their war against Pirates.
! Pirates? Too many motives, known or unknown.
1. Money : by controlling the only access available for pirates to reach New World, they can charge unreasonable entrance fee. But to control such a thing, you'd need power, a Yonkou or a Shichibukai can do that I think.
! 2. Mermaids trafficking : again related to money, but an easier goal to reach. All you have to do is create a situation where the FI "guardians" fight among themselves and take advantage of the situation and just snatch as many as you can. This kind of feat doesnt require that great of power, so we can have lots of possibilities here.
! 3. Treasure : Robin went to find an important piece of history. Poneglyph related? Most likely. Ancient weapon related? Probably. Although the "treasure" might also be related to Suntree Eve as well. And since I dont think that the treasure will have anything to do with gold n stuff, but rather "knowledge" or "power", I'd say you have to have great influence to acquire such information. Players possible of that feat would be World Government, Shichibukai, or YonkouAt any rate we'll see a hidden player amidst the approaching chaos. My money is on Big Mom's subordinate; probably the equivalent of Whitebeard's Division Commander. A good enemy for the current SH, definitely not weak, but not too strong either.
-
Once again I get the Skypeia feel from where this arc is headed. At first in Skypeia we were introduced to the Shandians as the bad-guys who were at war with the Skypeians. Then the SHs got in trouble with the White Berets and had to go on the run until they finally were all united against the main enemy, Enel. Turns out everyone were just fighting for their homeland and a common enemy that threatened to destroy it united them.
Now looking at this arc we see the New Fishman Pirates and Der Dekken as the Shandians and the Mer-people as the Skypeians with the Neptune Army as the White Berrets, with Neptune maybe as a Gan Fall type character. Now as to who Enel will turn out to be, that remains to be seen but Big Mom is the initial leader in the clubhouse. Just like Skypeia the big boss will come down and destroy everyone's home and they will learn to work together to rebuild it.
-
Somehow I feel that Hodi or Vander aren't going the Big Bad Main Villain of the arc, they somehow feel…not "Big" enough. So far every major arc pits the SH against "Big" names : Shichibukai Corcodile, God Enel, World Government's CP9, Shichibukai Moria, Marine Admiral Kizaru.
I think you are expecting a bit too much to be honest.
The author can save the more powerful enemies for further down the story. -
Somehow I feel that Hodi or Vander aren't going the Big Bad Main Villain of the arc, they somehow feel…not "Big" enough. So far every major arc pits the SH against "Big" names : Shichibukai Corcodile, God Enel, World Government's CP9, Shichibukai Moria, Marine Admiral Kizaru.
Agreed. I don't think either of them are the main villains either. I think the main villain will be whoever it is controlling those steroids Hodi uses, or at least somehow connected to that.
Once again I get the Skypeia feel from where this arc is headed.
I'm actually getting more of a vibe from Water7. The Strawhats are being framed, there's a group of small time villains that will probably ally themselves with the SHs eventually, and there is obviously some shadow influencing things in their favor. Plus there's always the possibility that Luffy will hijack Mariejois to add more parallels to Fisher Tiger in a similar manner he went to Ennies Lobby.
-
Somehow I feel that Hodi or Vander aren't going the Big Bad Main Villain of the arc, they somehow feel…not "Big" enough. So far every major arc pits the SH against "Big" names : Shichibukai Corcodile, God Enel, World Government's CP9, Shichibukai Moria, Marine Admiral Kizaru.
Agreed. I don't think either of them are the main villains either. I think the main villain will be whoever it is controlling those steroids Hodi uses, or at least somehow connected to that.
You guys are assuming that this will be a big arc, worth using a major big name, but somehow I'm getting the feeling that this arc won't be so big because things are progressing too fast…
The crew reached FI just a few chapters ago, and Hodi Jones and Vander Decken are already shaking hands and talking about attacking and destroing the Ryuuguu Kingdom... At this rate I won't be surprised if the attack begins just a few chapters from now... Which is the reason why I'm getting the feeling that this won't be a such a big arc.
-
You guys are assuming that this will be a big arc, worth using a major big name, but somehow I'm getting the feeling that this arc won't be so big because things are progressing too fast…
The crew reached FI just a few chapters ago, and Hodi Jones and Vander Decken are already shaking hands and talking about attacking and destroing the Ryuuguu Kingdom... At this rate I won't be surprised if the attack begins just a few chapters from now... Which is the reason why I'm getting the feeling that this won't be a such a big arc.
You are not looking at the bigger picture. Aside from the fact that FI has been hyped for years, this is the kickoff arc for the second half of the story. It's going to set alot of things into motion. The idea that it will be a mini arc is ridiculous.
Camie has already used the word conspiracy. Do either of our two Villans look like conspirators? It is relatively obvious that someone is manipulating the situation from the shadows. The question is who and to what end.
I don't think it has anything to do with Big Mom. She is already in a position to get almost anything she wants in return for her protection. I don't think destabilizing the Ryuuguu kingdom who she already has an agreement with has much potential benefit to her. As a Yonkou I would imagine she's busy holding ground in the NW. She doesn't need extra responsibilities at FI. I'd imagine that she doesn't even keep a presence there.
Due to Caribou's behavior I think it's reasonable to assume that the Yonkou threat to those who enter FI is one of retaliation rather than outright protection. They rely on the immigration report since usually there is only one way into the bubble. By taking down the names of any pirates they can ensure that the ones who cause trouble are dealt with later by whoever happens to be protecting the island at the time. It was probably the same in WB's day which is why Ace and Jinbei fought for two days before WB showed.
-
You are not looking at the bigger picture. Aside from the fact that FI has been hyped for years, this is the kickoff arc for the second half of the story. It's going to set alot of things into motion. The idea that it will be a mini arc is ridiculous.
Camie has already used the word conspiracy. Do either of our two Villans look like conspirators? It is relatively obvious that someone is manipulating the situation from the shadows. The question is who and to what end.
Oh, yes, I took that into consideration, but the set up until now isn't living up to these expectations. So my impression is that somehow Oda seems to be planing to leave the next really big arcs to the New World.
And I'm not saying that this will be a mini arc, I'm sure that with the big number of enemies (NFP + Decken's crew + Caribou [and maybe his crew]) there is plenty of room to make the arc last, considering the battles…
But of course, it's all just expeculation at this point, I'm just guessing based on my impressions of the arc until now, and I may be wrong (very likely even)... Somebody else may still show up, or something big that we aren't expecting might happen.
-
You guys are assuming that this will be a big arc, worth using a major big name, but somehow I'm getting the feeling that this arc won't be so big because things are progressing too fast…
The crew reached FI just a few chapters ago, and Hodi Jones and Vander Decken are already shaking hands and talking about attacking and destroing the Ryuuguu Kingdom... At this rate I won't be surprised if the attack begins just a few chapters from now... Which is the reason why I'm getting the feeling that this won't be a such a big arc.
I have a hard time believing that an arc Oda had been planning since East Blue and has pretty much hyped so much isn't going to be big and game changing. Especially when he's introduced so many new factors since Arlong Park.
-
Speaking of Big Mam, I'm starting to think at the end of this arc we'll see her being notified of the destruction and chaos at Fishman Island, leading her to head there. This could lead her to being the first of the Four Emperors that Luffy fights.