@asm00200:
Ok, let me ask you this. If you can turn off your DF, shouldn't its effect be turn off too? Will Aokiji be able to swim? Will BB received damage be reduce to that of a normal man?
Look, it may well be that logia cannot use their power to go partial logia–you could be right--but we as of this moment do not know that for sure. Oda has deliberately left a few things rather vague for us as readers and for the crew thus far--one of them is exactly what is so very special about CoC--hidden for anime only users [hide]since all we've seen so far that has definitively been stated as CoC is making fodder pass out and foam at the mouth, yet everyone pisses their pants when it comes up–there must be more to it (I have a whole theory on that, too, but I don't assume people care that much about my theories to post it here. I can if anyone wants, though)[/hide]–and the other is how logia works, exactly. I think there is a method to Oda's madness here. I think Oda is holding that full explanation back, and will continue to do so for some to to come. I hate to sound like a windbag, but I will repeat myself a little here to say I believe that is part of the reason why no logia has thus far joined the crew. If I am right, it will make the end of the series, and the battles with BB and Akainu, all the more entertaining without that knowledge, so we get to see Kitsune's wish, and Luffy uses his own unique genius to figure out how to win against unbeatable odds again.
But back to the point--there is simply a lot we do not know about how logias work. I myself refer to the way other fruits work. They change your body completely somehow, since no matter what you look like, you are a hammer. My best example is that Chopper can go full reindeer and is still a d/f user, so would still be a hammer--but he can also go into several partial shapes that are not fully human or reindeer. We have also seen Ace light just his arm, or his top half, not his full body. We know that with enough practice they can control it to the point of not, in Ace's case, burning the hat he wove for little Oars.
! We saw Luffy use gear 2 on just his arm recently as well. I don't see it as that much of a stretch that logias, with enough practice and training, could become some interim form, partial element and partial solid.
All that said, however, I am left with Kishido's question, and Lightning Ace's replies referring everyone to the previous page. The question Kishido is asking is why would Ace assume he could shield Luffy if he knows his logia form is always something attacks go right through. He didn't even have the time to push Luffy out of the way, he just stood there and took the punch, like the heroic older brother he was written to be. How did he know that would work?
So we refer to the previous page, where Akainu is stating on that his d/f is stronger, and, as another poster pointed out to me in another thread, Oda has never had a character lie about their d/f in order to trash talk, and even if we doubt that, we got proof when they clashed and Ace got himself burned. No doubt about it, magma beats fire in OP. Kishido, that may in fact be the reason why Ace did it the way he did–he had to go elemental to get to Luffy on time, and having just been burned by Akainu, he knew it would work to shield Luffy.
Thing is, why? Why can magma make Ace solid if he's in his logia state? Every other time this has happened, there has been an explanation that made sense, so we've come to expect that. Water makes sand solid--shaky but yeah, ok. Rubber beats electricity because it doesn't conduct it--solid, so yeah. What is it about magma that makes fire solid? Could be said to smother the fire, since it's partially a liquid, could be that it's melted sand, basically, so that smothers fire too. Fine. A reasonable explanation. We can accept them, if not love them.
Does that work for you Kishido?
@triforcebih:
You people are retarded. Better go read some books. It's better then arguing about a fantasy shounen manga.
You just made everything you post completely irrelevant