The way I figured it meant was that for example, if Hachi and Caimie got married, they could have octopus fishmen, octopus mermen, kissing gourami fishmen and/or kissing gourami mermen offspring.
Chapter 610: "The Fortune Teller Madame Shirley" Discussion
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Luffy could withstand the pressure since he doesn't lost his rubber nature under water. He had to be rescued, but he won't die right in the spot.
And any fishman/mermaid could pick him easily.
And he'd still drown, because Fishman Island is 10000 meters under the sea, and there is no way in hell they'd be able to bring Luffy back up to the surface before he dies from lack of air.
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My guess is if a fishman and mermaid got marryed and if the baby were Fishman/Fishwoman they would look like the fishman parent and if they were Mermaid/Merman they would look like the mermaid parent.
And he'd still drown, because Fishman Island is 10000 meters under the sea, and there is no way in hell they'd be able to bring Luffy back up to the surface before he dies from lack of air.
Franky is probly coating the ship and if Robins helping they can get it done pritty fast because of her fruit power then they just need to be taken into the coated ship
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Perhaps. Another issue with that is that the coating is almost definitely there for a reason. And if they wanted to get rid of ll the land dwellers that way, I fail to see how they couldn't do it themselves. Or why if they couldn't do it themselves for some reason, Luffy could do it
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The way I figured it meant was that for example, if Hachi and Caimie got married, they could have octopus fishmen, octopus mermen, kissing gourami fishmen and/or kissing gourami mermen offspring.
Exactly, 4 kinds, as it was stated in the chapter.
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That's right ! Hachi and Caimie could create a second Hyouzou ! Go, you guys !!
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That's right ! Hachi and Caimie could create a second Hyouzou ! Go, you guys !!
Hachi is a different species of octopus >.>
But I agree that this is how it works. looking_at_you is just being his usual self =.=" As if changing gender changes the "variety" of the species.
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Hachi is a different species of octopus >.>
It's kind of interesting - back in Arlong Park very few fishmen had specified fish species; octopus vs. blue ringed octopus, Goldfish vs. pop-eyed goldfish, Chuu was called a kissing fish instead of a kissing gourami (although he reminded me more of an archerfish but eh). Kuroobi's species of stingray was also never specified. As far as I know only Arlong was specified as a sawshark. I figure Hachi is a Common Octopus, but yeah.
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Perhaps. Another issue with that is that the coating is almost definitely there for a reason. And if they wanted to get rid of ll the land dwellers that way, I fail to see how they couldn't do it themselves. Or why if they couldn't do it themselves for some reason, Luffy could do it
They probably need oxygen every now and then.
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Explain how it's anti-climatic. I don't think you know the definition of the term. Luffy not destroying Fishman Island has nothing to do with the weather.
Oh wow, I made a spelling error by adding an extra hyphen. Who gives a shit? Actually wow, apparently both forms are acceptable and the word anticlimactic or anti-climactic never has anything to do with the weather.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anticlimactic
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anti-climacticAnticlimactic on the other hand…Explain that too. Fortune tellers are never right in stories. That's usually why they're there.
Because it would be a quick, easy and cheap way to get out of a serious dilemma. Whilst fortune tellers might not have a great reputation at accuracy (and I highly doubt you've read every story with a fortune-teller ever) it's the bigger picture that's important. That this was a declaration by Oda that Luffy was going to do something insane at the end of the arc and everything from now on is going to be build-up to lead up to that one moment. Not to mention the mystery and drama regards to how Luffy is actually gonna do it. That's why Oda went through such pains to make sure the readers knew she was legit. Which is why it would be extremely boring and underwhelming and make the whole thing an extremely underhanded way to make Luffy have friction with the locals (which he wouldn't have needed to do as there was enough of it) and make the whole thing ultimately pointless if Oda went all "Whoops, got ya! It was this guy all along!" The former has much more exciting prospects for the story while the latter is just a bore. That's why it would be anti-climactic.
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What about Van Der Decken becoming the symbol of peace between human and fishmen ?
After all, he is supposed to be a human and he is in love with the Fishmen princess !? They say he has gone crazy after her, but maybe that's because his father and the princes kept forbidding that they see each other. -
What about Van Der Decken becoming the symbol of peace between human and fishmen ?
After all, he is supposed to be a human and he is in love with the Fishmen princess !? They say he has gone crazy after her, but maybe that's because his father and the princes kept forbidding that they see each other.they never saw each other in the first place…..why would a princess marry a creepy dude like him of whom she is scared off
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Perhaps. Another issue with that is that the coating is almost definitely there for a reason. And if they wanted to get rid of ll the land dwellers that way, I fail to see how they couldn't do it themselves. Or why if they couldn't do it themselves for some reason, Luffy could do it
Do you realise that the Fishman Island is right in the middle of two mongroove's trees? I guess that's why they can't do it by themselves and anyway they do get money out of it and can live with the humans, it would be the perfect place for humans and fishman to start connecting and respecting and living well with each other but it wasn't what happened due to the tenryuubito people enslaving fishman, buying from enslavers, etc. And you gotta think that's not everyone who hates humans, there's tons of guys that would like to live in peace with them.
But I agree with the last part about not seeing how Luffy could do it, i also can't, so I do believe it won't be a total destruction. -
man the chapter, although only 15 pages, was kinda long… i like it.
packed with info and new things... gets me all packed with questions...
how is luffy gonna destroy the island? is he really gonna do it? (first time for everything) will he destroy it in self defence or? what will the reason for it be? how will the fact that the island is under big mam affect? what is going to happen with van der decken and new fishmen pirates?
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- i would love to see ODA's face watching ur speculations while he has prepared several episodes after the last aired one.=]
- and of most importance. One Piece is a serie mostly based on revearsal of public thoughts, so it can't be predictable. There are thousands of examples , but in my opinion this is a good one. It's only my thought, but i think the reason why oda introduced ace as luffy's brother was to first mislead us. But in the war, it was known that ace is roger's son. This was made in order to explain why Dragon won't appear, as Dragon is one of Oda's strongest trump card in the series. Everyone 'till then thought Luffy and Ace were blood-related, but we were all wrong. This makes me think that all this talking about Lola's mother can actually make Oda change his mind about the true identity of the 4th Yonkou, Big Mom , IF he really intented introducing her that way. It's only a thought though
You can't take the king on your first turn
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I think people have forgotten Hacchi, but who can blame them? I wonder if we'll see him next chapter.
Btw we never got a bounty for Decken. I wanna know what it is.
As far as Hodi and Van decken are concerned, i think one of them will have a squabble with Luffy while the other poses the bigger threat and becomes the main villain. Much like wiper and enel respectively, or franky and Lucci.
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@Mr.:
I think people have forgotten Hacchi, but who can blame them. I wonder if we'll see him next chapter.
Btw we never got a bounty for Decken. I wanna know what it is.
we probably will. he probably has the lagest tako stand in fishman island.
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I think it would be interesting if Luffy actually did screw up all of F1 by fightint with Big Mam, the yonkou. Cause he did say he hopes to meet her, he might fight her and since she protect Fisherman Island, Luffy could screw up the place by doing that. Don't know if that is likely, but I can it would bring in an interesting twist to the story.
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@marc0.:
- i would love to see ODA's face watching ur speculations while he has prepared several episodes after the last aired one.=]
- and of most importance. One Piece is a serie mostly based on revearsal of public thoughts, so it can't be predictable. There are thousands of examples , but in my opinion this is a good one. It's only my thought, but i think the reason why oda introduced ace as luffy's brother was to first mislead us. But in the war, it was known that ace is roger's son. This was made in order to explain why Dragon won't appear, as Dragon is one of Oda's strongest trump card in the series. Everyone 'till then thought Luffy and Ace were blood-related, but we were all wrong. This makes me think that all this talking about Lola's mother can actually make Oda change his mind about the true identity of the 4th Yonkou, Big Mom , IF he really intented introducing her that way. It's only a thought though
Not at all. You are so wrong its not funny. Many people didn't think Ace and Luffy were blood related at first given the different family names, and it was only when Ace said both he and Luffy were the sons of the world greatest criminal(s) that it seemed like they were definitely blood related. Oda foreshadows so many things, so if you pay close enough attention a lot of things can be predicted. For example, tons of people on this forum figured out the 3D2Y thing before it happened. Tons predicted the timeskip. Tons predicted that Whitebeard would die. Quite a few even figured out that Ace would. Hell, even small things like the Octopus Merman blocking Luffy's attack can be seen before they are actually outright stated (If you look at 609, his sword is clearly in a blocking position). Changing stuff on a whim and pulling stuff out of your ass to surprise fans is horrible writing, and Oda isn't a horrible writer
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Has anyone even considered that Shirley might be lying?
For instance, what if Shirley is connected to the "bad guys" in some way, and she actually predicted that Luffy will cause trouble to them in some way (not destroying the island), but makes up the story about Luffy destroying the island just to prevent it from happening. Notice that she goes out in the middle of the street and creates a real show (a lot of people gathering around her e.t.c.). Obviously that isn't proof that she's lying but it's something which should atleast be considered imo.
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That would defeat the point of her helping them save Sanji
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First of all, i didn't say that Oda is a bad writter. I love his writting , his attitude in writting , and One piece is no.1 for me. Secondly, it is IMPOSSIBLE to change the course of facts in just one episode, or cause 1 person thought what could be the next chapter, he just wants to go contrary to the most people believes. He can't live in a forum place to check on everything. Noone could predict Ace death after being saved, and even if they thought Whitebeard would be dead, the fact that he died from Blackbeard's men is impossible to fortell. He does not change anything if he implies in the the latest manga, he just tries to do it in an unguessable way, or misdirect the readers that's all. And i make myself clear that i LOVE one piece
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@marc0.:
the fact that he died from Blackbeard's men is impossible to fortell.
believe it or not, I did predict this.
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I knew Blackbeard would kill whitebeard at some point ever since his fight with Ace. It was so heavily hinted at there it isn't even funny. And again, you are completely ignoring counter examples. Tons of people predicted Ace's death. Tons of people predicted 3D2Y. Tons of people predicted tons of other things. One Piece is far from unpredictable. In fact, its only unpredictable if you get way too hung up with cliches or what seems to be the norm to look for clues and hints that are everywhere
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I knew Blackbeard would kill whitebeard at some point ever since his fight with Ace. It was so heavily hinted at there it isn't even funny. And again, you are completely ignoring counter examples. Tons of people predicted Ace's death. Tons of people predicted 3D2Y. Tons of people predicted tons of other things. One Piece is far from unpredictable. In fact, its only unpredictable if you get way too hung up with cliches or what seems to be the norm to look for clues and hints that are everywhere
can you list the tons of things tons of people predicted about one piece?
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Ace died
Whitebeard died
Franky joined the crew
timeskip
3D2Y
Sabo would live (not completely confirmed yet, but chances of Dragon having saved someone else are slim to none honestly)
Perona never joined the crew
Hancock never joined the crew
Akainu has a magma logia
Kuma seperated the Strawhats so that they could get stronger before entering the grand lineamong other things. I joined pretty recently, so I can't give a full list, but I know a lot of things like that were predicted
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Has anyone even considered that Shirley might be lying?
For instance, what if Shirley is connected to the "bad guys" in some way, and she actually predicted that Luffy will cause trouble to them in some way (not destroying the island), but makes up the story about Luffy destroying the island just to prevent it from happening. Notice that she goes out in the middle of the street and creates a real show (a lot of people gathering around her e.t.c.). Obviously that isn't proof that she's lying but it's something which should atleast be considered imo.
Maybe, but the New Fishmen pirates seem to want to bring Luffy in. Shirley seems to want the Sh crew driven off the island though, so maybe her prediction is legit.
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@marc0.:
- i would love to see ODA's face watching ur speculations while he has prepared several episodes after the last aired one.=]
- and of most importance. One Piece is a serie mostly based on revearsal of public thoughts, so it can't be predictable. There are thousands of examples , but in my opinion this is a good one. It's only my thought, but i think the reason why oda introduced ace as luffy's brother was to first mislead us. But in the war, it was known that ace is roger's son. This was made in order to explain why Dragon won't appear, as Dragon is one of Oda's strongest trump card in the series. Everyone 'till then thought Luffy and Ace were blood-related, but we were all wrong. This makes me think that all this talking about Lola's mother can actually make Oda change his mind about the true identity of the 4th Yonkou, Big Mom , IF he really intented introducing her that way. It's only a thought though
Oda already said in a SBS that he does not accept suggestions from fans and I believe that would qualify to it, he said he want it all to be imagined by him, his work, he just accepts ideas for covers with animals.
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I knew Blackbeard would kill whitebeard at some point ever since his fight with Ace. It was so heavily hinted at there it isn't even funny. And again, you are completely ignoring counter examples. Tons of people predicted Ace's death. Tons of people predicted 3D2Y. Tons of people predicted tons of other things. One Piece is far from unpredictable. In fact, its only unpredictable if you get way too hung up with cliches or what seems to be the norm to look for clues and hints that are everywhere
predictinig is different from making total guesses. i can type out a whole bunch of scenarios and believe it or not, i'm sure it to hit one.
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I'm trying to think of possible scenarios where Luffy could destroy FI without literaly turning it into rubble. For example Water 7 was nearly "destroyed" at one point due to a bad economy and just an over all low standard of living. Or maybe even Drum kingdom for that matter, with Wapol running things, to the people there it was a "destroyed" nation. A bit extreme with that word but I think you all follow what i'm saying.
I'm trying to figure a way in which the way of life at FI is so drastically changed because of Luffy that at first glance it seems horrible but when the dust settles it is for the better.
Or maybe all those giant shell buildings secretly harbor giant enemy crabs. Then Luffy comes in to beat them all up, thus FI is destroyed. I like that theory.
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Except none of those were total guesses. People had reasons behind all of those things. Around here, you'll be pummeled into dust if you make a theory that is just a random guess with no real reason to support why it might happen other than "I think it will". Look at Jerk disease. His sig has a list of 8 predictions of major things that were debated recently. Of the 8 he has 6 right (though one of those is not completely confirmed yet as its Sabo being alive, but its almost definitely true) 1 wrong, and 1 still up in the air. You going to peg that on being lucky. And the 3D2Y thing and getting the EXACT meaning, is that also lucky?
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Come on , how could you predict akainu is magma, or whitebeard and ace died. Out of millions of guesses i thought it up , but it's theories. When ace sliped back after whitebeard last words as a captain WHO thought that ace would died due to his element superiority. That perona and hancock wouldn't join the crew was easily seen, and that frankie joined. These tips are given through the characters depending what they had to offer. Did you predict that when luffy, rayliegh and jimbe went back to marineford that they gone for the 3D2Y, and there would a timeskip back then? And also, don't say stuff like i predict that they will get stronger… Ofc they will, I fortell that luffy will be pirate king. One piece is trully unpredictable, and IN MY IPINION oda checks the most talked part of forums
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Because they followed themes and understanding of how Oda worked. Akainu being magma for instance, was based on the naming and ability pattern of the admirals. Aokiji is BLUE pheasant, and has as Ice logia. Kizaru is YELLOW monkey, and has a light LOGIA. So the logical choice for the next admiral, Akainu meaning RED dog, would be another logia with a red theme. The main choices were blood and magma, with magma making more sense for being a logia power. Ace and Whitebeard dieing had to do with thematic things, and subtle hints and nudges depending on how the war would go 3D2Y's meaning was figured out between the message arriving and its meaning being announced. Timeskips were being predicted long before that, all throughout the marineford arc. And I highly, highly, highly doubt Oda has EVER looked at a fan forum. He's an extremely busy man, and I'd imagine the biggest way he learns about what fans do is through things like fan mail. Oda for example, draws most of the backgrounds and such in the manga himself, which most mangaka don't do, and have assistants do instead. If Oda was looking through fan forums and using that to dictate the direction he'd take his work he'd been constantly shifting opinions and using asspulls to meet or go away from the fans expectations. he didn't. Also, that would be a belief not an opinion, since whether or not Oda goes through fan forums to decide what to do is a real, concrete thing that has one definite answer. And finally, you realize that tons of people supported Perona and Hancock, and ironically enough, used the arguement that you can't predict Oda, which is exactly what you're doing
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Except none of those were total guesses. People had reasons behind all of those things. Around here, you'll be pummeled into dust if you make a theory that is just a random guess with no real reason to support why it might happen other than "I think it will". Look at Jerk disease. His sig has a list of 8 predictions of major things that were debated recently. Of the 8 he has 6 right (though one of those is not completely confirmed yet as its Sabo being alive, but its almost definitely true) 1 wrong, and 1 still up in the air. You going to peg that on being lucky. And the 3D2Y thing and getting the EXACT meaning, is that also lucky?
i can say 20 diff scenarios, all with reasoning behind it. its still makes it guesses.
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perhaps, but that just depends on the logic behind the reasoning. Reasoning made with good, sound logic and analytical skill is worth more than a baseless guess. I suppose its still a guess, but its an EDUCATED guess. And even an uneducated guess is a prediction. Something is not completely unpredictable if someone can make many predictions and get over 50 or 60 percent of them right. Especially when they aren't trying to cover their bases by making more than one prediction on the same thing, and stick with their predictions
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Whitebeard died
Franky joined the crew
timeskip
3D2Y
Sabo would live (not completely confirmed yet, but chances of Dragon having saved someone else are slim to none honestly)
Perona never joined the crew
Hancock never joined the crew
Akainu has a magma logia
Kuma seperated the Strawhats so that they could get stronger before entering the grand lineamong other things. I joined pretty recently, so I can't give a full list, but I know a lot of things like that were predicted
Whitebeard died: easy to predict
Franky joined the crew: Easy to predict when the sea train arc started. Before that, it was about Pauli or Franky, 50% of chances to be right.
timeskip: Since Oda almost stated himself that a timeskip will happen, that is not hard to predict.
3D2Y: It was more or less written, not easy to predict but not hard neither.
Sabo would live (not completely confirmed yet, but chances of Dragon having saved someone else are slim to none honestly). Pretty easy to predict since Dragon came back with a body
Perona never joined the crew: Easy to predict
Hancock never joined the crew: Easy to predict
Akainu has a magma logia: Easy to predict
Kuma seperated the Strawhats so that they could get stronger before entering the grand line: Easy to predict when we knew about their location. Now, did you predict it before knowing their location? that's what predicting is about. When hints are as big as an elephant, there is no point to brag about it. For example, did you predict that CP9 guys were hidding as ship workers or barman? This is predicting.Now, Ace's death was very difficult to predict especially when he was freed, people who claimed his death and were certain about it probably knew about the AP rumor which happened some years ago (the menber who met a japanese close to Oda and told him about Duval face and Ace's death). As long as duval face was revealed, if you knew about the rumor, you don't take risk in claiming that Ace is going to die.
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After ace got free, noone could predict that he would die in just 2 manga, or that blackbeard was watching the whole fight. Did you even predict the ability to steal devil fruits for example ? To me, luffy's visiting marineford was just memorial, until the tatoo appeared. And all those things come from hundreds of guesses that only one comes true. One piece is nowhere to be predicted, in terms of plot going on,only in just some parts of it. That's all for me
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Oda NEVER outright stated a timeskip would occur before it actually did. And for Sabo dieing, it was before dragon found the body. It was people guessing he would survive from the start of his introduction and befriending of Luffy. Besides which, being "easy" to predict doesn't stop it from being a prediction. It actually COUNTERS the claim that Oda is unpredictable if people can predict those major plotpoints. And what you said would be just a random guess because there was no evidence it was them until it was revealed. Besides which, you seem to think people can only predict what will come next chapter. Predicting is being able to figure things before they happened/are confirmed. And I've never heard about a rumor like that anywhere, and examples of people who talked about Ace dieing never mentioned it either, nor are they the types to buy into rumors. And given your December 2010 join date, unless you've been banned before, I can''t see you having heard about something like that
You Guys might have a point if noone ever got more than one or two points right for every hundred they guess. The difference is that while one out of a hundred might be right, the right predictions are often made by the exact same people. If there are hundreds of wrong predictions from idiots who don't bother analyzing the actual story or actually looking into it, that doesn't mean its unpredictable. When there are people who get over half of their predictions correct, it means it is NOT unpredictable
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Oda NEVER outright stated a timeskip would occur before it actually did.
This: http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=25671 That's a big hint. When hints are as big, don't come to brag about it! Did you predict Ace being Roger's son?
And for Sabo dieing, it was before dragon found the body. It was people guessing he would survive from the start of his introduction and befriending of Luffy
Of course Sabo wasn't going to die! What's the point of introducing us this unknow brother to make him die while Ace just died?! Don't brag about predicting this thats way too easy!
And what you said would be just a random guess because there was no evidence it was them until it was revealed.
No we knew about CP9 during Water seven arc, we knew about the masked guys. If you predict that these guy are actually some of the ship workers then yes that's a good prediction, you can brag about it.
people who talked about Ace dieing never mentioned it either, nor are they the types to buy into rumors.
Of course they are not going to talk about the rumor while predicting it since they want to show us that they are right. Some ppl even put in their sig that they were right about his death!
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You're a complete idiot if you think you have to predict every little detail to make a good prediction. Did anyone predict Ace was Roger's son? No, but there was no evidence before that Chapter that he was Roger's son. I don't remember anyone saying he wasn't Roger's son though, and I do remember people predicting long in advance that Ace and Luffy weren't real brothers. Second, you still haven't adressed where the hell you got that rumor from. Because I'm pretty sure you're making it up, since I've never once heard of it anywhere. I know about the Luffy's last adventure as a 17 year old. I'm pretty sure timeskip predictions started before that however, and even people who knew of it knew that might not be exactly what it meant. Oda's often vague about stuff like that, and he might've just meant Luffy's 18th birthday would hold special significance. And actually it wasn't that easy. Sabo became Luffy's brother, and Luffy said during Marineford that "Ace is my only brother". So as soon as Sabo became Luffy's brother it became a possibility that he'd die and help motivate Luffy like Kuina did. And saying we knew about those masked guys doesn't matter, since we had no hint at all as to who the masked guys were, and Oda intentionally used fake CP9 to trick us as well. And again, if major plot points are "easy to predict" then the series IS NOT UNPREDICTABLE. Even in the most god damn predictable series in the world, I doubt anybody predicts the exact situation and things like that. They can predict the general outline and the cliches that are followed. One Piece isn't anywhere near as cliched, so predicting exact details is usually impossible, especially when some things just happen. But predicting isn't about getting everything right down to the letter. Its about being able to figure out the direction the plot will go and what general things will happen. And another non forum example is one of my Real Life friends predicted that Blackbeard went to Impel Down to get San Juan Wolf, Caterina Devon, and the others because he felt Oda named them for a reason, and that Blackbeard must be in Impel Down for a good reason. He may not have been completely correct, since Blackbeard really wasn't going there SPECIFICALLY for those people, but they still ended up joining his crew and he was right about the general outcome
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I do remember people predicting long in advance that Ace and Luffy weren't real brothers.
Wow seriously! These guys sure rocks! When 2 guy does not have the same name i wonder how they predicted this really! wooooo
Second, you still haven't adressed where the hell you got that rumor from. Because I'm pretty sure you're making it up, since I've never once heard of it anywhere.
It's all here http://www.apforums.net/showthread.php?t=17250&page=16
this post http://www.apforums.net/showpost.php?p=844229&postcount=320
and this one: http://www.apforums.net/showpost.php?p=844244&postcount=326
and ooooh look who is in the thread?? http://www.apforums.net/showpost.php?p=844306&postcount=357 Zephos? Who is he? He is the jerk man, you know the guy who pissed off all people because he was always claiming that Ace was going to die, he even put on his sig that he was right (and still wear it) and bragged about it. Most of ppl who predicted his death knew about the rumor, period.And another non forum example is one of my Real Life friends predicted that Blackbeard went to Impel Down to get San Juan Wolf, Caterina Devon, and the others because he felt Oda named them for a reason, and that Blackbeard must be in Impel Down for a good reason.
Not hard to predict. These are not really the kind of things (exept ace's death), like all other, that you can brag about predicting it. The author didnt want to hide it since he put in his story some big hints about it. Now, predict me what is going to happen in fishman island, predict me what is the ancient kingdom, predict me what is the will of D, predict me what is the mistery behind devil fruits.
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Uh, I'm pretty sure people like Zephos didn't believe that. Considering those posts are all after the date his identity was revealed, any intelligent person would ask about what evidence there is that it actually happened. If it had surfaced before the spoiler was released, sure. But if one guy just mentions that he heard about it on an irc when its already been confirmed, no intelligent person would believe it. ALso where is Ace menitoned in there? ANd I also see mention that the guy got something else completely wrong as well, so really anyone with a brain wouldn't believe it anything more than a lucky guess
And again, we don't know enough about those things yet. BUt that doesn't make the series unpredictable. You're a complete and total retard if you think a series is only predictable if you can guess every major plot point. If you can predict big plot points like these long before any confirmation, it means the series isn't predictable. If thing like that are "easy to predict" IT'S NOT UNPREDICTABLE. So please adress the point of how it can be unpredictable if people can and have predicted numerous things along those lines and gotten many right.
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I predict..
- The ENTIRE Strawhat crew lives through the next chapter.
- Luffy has mastered his Haki.
- There will be some fighting in the near future with the Strawhat crew involved
- Everyone will get to show their improved abilities in this fight
- Crocodile isn't going to be a member of the crew
LOL!!! I am amazing!! owntbbq!! One piece is too predictable
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Except I'm talking about major plot points that weren't obvious. People believed in timeskips before the thing the last adventure as a 17 year old, and even after it it was debated madly
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Uh, I'm pretty sure people like Zephos didn't believe that. Considering those posts are all after the date his identity was revealed, any intelligent person would ask about what evidence there is that it actually happened. If it had surfaced before the spoiler was released, sure. But if one guy just mentions that he heard about it on an irc when its already been confirmed, no intelligent person would believe it.
You don't get it, fucking brat. En1 posted some pics about fake sanji weeks before he was revealed. Then fake Sanji became true, that was one of the 2 spoilers that En1 knew about it (thx to Ocean). In his post he talked about this spoiler and Ocean edited it because it was an huge spoiler, he says himself that this spoiler "Ace's death" will probably become true later in the story.
The rumor come from this. While the marineford arc is about the execution of Ace, it's without risk that someone who know about this (or in some case like zephos, was there years ago) can predict (and brag) about it.So please adress the point of how it can be unpredictable if people can and have predicted numerous things along those lines and gotten many right
Problem is that all of your examples about predicting (exept Ace's death) have big hints around them, Oda clearly does not try to hide it, so that is predictible, yes. But they are tons of other things that you can't predict, especially you who brag about things like "a friend predicted that Ace and luffy arent true brother" which show that you are not smart at all but this is another problem.
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Sometimes Oda puts so much extremely obvious clues to upcoming plot, and yet almost no one catches it…
causing literally millions of people to go D'OH! when it's revealed.Case in point. Whitebeard's fruit.
He was shown YEARS before his fruit revelation with the laugh Gurararara
Yet no one, at least no one that I've seen, predicted his fruit to be earthquake fruit.I swear, there were so many people slapping their forehead when that was revealed.
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Sometimes Oda puts so much extremely obvious clues to upcoming plot, and yet almost no one catches it…
causing literally millions of people to go D'OH! when it's revealed.Case in point. Whitebeard's fruit.
He was shown YEARS before his fruit revelation with the laugh Gurararara
Yet no one, at least no one that I've seen, predicted his fruit to be earthquake fruit.Well that was a thing, only people who speak japanese could have taken for an hint :p.
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I swear, Shirley has some relation to Hawkins. Trust me. We've only had two fortune-telling characters so far, so it must be pretty rare.
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Shirley is a phony.
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I think a good percentage of us saw Whitebeard's death coming, simply because it opened a lot of possibilities. Besides, it would be retarded if the world government, which has been set as pretty much the villain of OP, would come down halfway through the manga.
Ace's death could be predicted easily too since now that it was revealed he was Roger's son and that WB was trying to make him PK, he would be a great competitor figure for Pirate King status, if not easily become PK because of WB. At that point I had a feeling Ace was going to die or at least be injured in some sort of way that took him out of the competition.Honestly Monique, where were you in high school English class? I was taught there to analyze fiction, what about you?
