No, your post wasn't claiming the entire fault of the Iraq and Afghanistan war was on Obama's shoulder, nor was my post correcting you on that. Instead all I pointed out was that Obama did not start this war, he's just been handed gloves to a shitty problem and he's trying to fix it. Secondly I was pointing out why we're over there now. Your "corrupt war" that he's supporting right now is more of a war to help the regions strengthen themselves.
Really, I could have sworn I said I don't care how you feel about Obama. I don't agree with half the things he does but I don't blind myself to the good he does too. Which relates back to that bill. People always complain about invasion of privacy to help protect themselves. This is good, we all have rights and we should use them freely. Until asshole terrorists use those rights to talk privately amongst themselves and are now protected because people didn't want the government in on their internet business. Yay~! Why should we help the government keep up-to-date on security measures for this country? For any country? This is a global problem of course. Even pedophiles just chatting away freely on the global internet unmonitored.
You're talking about brushing facts of freedom aside. Ok, but you're also talking about brshing facts of safety aside. If you're reasonable and can accept one then you must accept the other. It's a give and take situation. Not just give, give, give. Give me freedom and screw you for worrying about my safety.
Eh, I could go on and on about irritating shit like that.
I'm biased against anyone who campains on change, but does not stop the unjust wars. Bringing home soldiers and upping contractor numbers does not mean a war is over. It means the same number of people are engaging just a lower percentage are enlisted in the millitary(See the first link below.) To continue with your analogy of him being handed the gloves of a shitty problem, he should also be aware that continuing with the same methods will produce the same results. He should stop the illegal sanctions on Iran which is an act of war(second link), he should stop the drone attacks in pakistan(third and forth links), he should stop the illegal funding pouring into american corporations that are taking over afganistan and iraqs economy, he should stop the floodgates of taxpayers money flowing into isreal who is a radical and dangerous ally that we should never have associated with in the beginning(Fifth link), and we need to stop occupying other lands and stop building millitary bases as a payment for their debt that we manufactured to begin with. There has been no change in place to stop the tourture we are committing, we are not stopping or punishing our millitary for all the countless civillian deaths, and we are warentlessly pressuring Iran for a new war.
Most importantly, war was never declared on any of the places we were at - which means all these millitary actions are not for the people, but for the state. Infact these policing actions are illegal, and should be seen as a threatening action by the UN. With all of the labeled wars we have faught, congress hasn't even declared war since 1941(WWII).
Anyone who is unwilling to change the wrong things we are currently doing, is just as bad as those who started them.
Department of Defense Contractors in Iraq
and Afghanistan: Background and Analysis
CRS Report for Congress
Prepared for Members and Committees of Congress
http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/R40764_20091214.pdf
"When the UN refused to agree to the severe sanctions that the U.S. wanted, Obama responded with typical Bush flair and went solo. The new U.S. sanctions against Iran — signed into law by Obama on July 1st — are an unmistakable act of war."
http://www.pacificfreepress.com/news/1/6530-from-sanctions-to-an-act-of-war-against-iran.html
Drone Attacks in Pakistan
Peak in drone attacks during the month of September 2010
The approximately 25:1 horrific ratio of civilians killed for each suspected militant has attracted severe criticism from around the world including the United Nations and prominent human rights watchdogs.
The Civillian Casualties of Drone Attacks
"On this basis the $84.8 billion in grants, loans and commodities Israel has received from the U.S. since 1949 cost the U.S. an additional $49,936,880,000 in interest"
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/cost_of_israel.html