i agree with murderedboy. readers have a right to dislike the nosebleed without getting lynched by the fanboys.
Chapter 609: "Adventure on Fishman Island" Discussion
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We can't criticize anything as Oda doesn't have any blemishes to his name.
Nothing is perfect, people should grow the fuck up when there is valid critisism.
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We can't criticize anything as Oda doesn't have any blemishes to his name.
Nothing is perfect, people should grow the fuck up when there is valid critisism.
You should understand what you preach.
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You should understand what you preach.
The fuck you on about?:getlost: I wrote i didn't like the nosebleeding thing and people were justifying it because it is a 'silly' manga and asking whether I should be reading it because I was criticizing it.
I understand very well kiddy, do you? :getlost:
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The fuck you on about?:getlost: I wrote i didn't like the nosebleeding thing and people were justifying it because it is a 'silly' manga and asking whether I should be reading it because I was criticizing it.
I understand very well kiddy, do you? :getlost:
I think everyone agrees that you are allowed to critizise when there is a valid criticism. Your point wasnt. Simple math.
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when it first happened, i laughed because of the mermaid shape in the blood.
Then i saw that Sanji was in danger of dying… and i thought
"ok, i guess that's to be expected...i guess. i wonder where this will lead- oh.
fisher tiger info. more on the racism against fishmen. sweet."so i was ok with it, but i can respect those who aren't ok with it.
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I think everyone agrees that you are allowed to critizise when there is a valid criticism. Your point wasnt. Simple math.
Learn to understand what you read then. If it wasn't valid then shoot it down instead of being a pratronizing ______ :getlost:
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Let me tell you that was totally genius what you did there. DID NOT see that coming. Wait not genius what that other thing… OH YEA! A complete waste of my time. To complain about Sanji getting a nose bleed is like getting mad that Naruto stabbed his hand and had to have it wrapped causing him to win the zabuza fight. I don't see what the problem is. Sanji is overwhelmed by the presence of women so he had a huge nosebleed. Never had a nose bleed when you were nervous before?
Well i've never had one when I was nervous before but hey, whatever, I'm not claiming it's unbelievable(if you ignore the sheer size of his blood loss).
Just because none have done it before doesn't make it wrong. If a pervert can get a nose bleed than nothing stopping a pervert that's been with homo's for two years from having a really huge nose bleed. Whats the problem? If you think One Piece is silly than stop reading it. Bet you'll still turn on mad tv every once in awhile.
One Piece is suppouse to be silly it's inhabited by ignorant grown men that have no education and only care about fighting, drinking, smoking, romance and treasure. If it didn't throw in some silliness it would be a pretty violent, boring manga with a little drama. It's still the best out there so STFU.
Don't take not having this silly manga out for two weeks out on us cause that's all youe tryna do.
Wow I simply love people like you. I'm not sure if you read this before you posted it because it's downright stupid. I don't believe you understand what most people feel is the issue here. THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT. Whether they felt its silliness is now over the top or they think the joke is stale; the reason doesn't matter. It's a god damn opinion. And I don't have to give an alternative to what happened because I'm not the writer. I'm still allowed to give my opinion on it even if I can't do a better job. And god forbid I dislike one part of One Piece. Now all of a sudden because I dislike this one part, I dislike the entire manga? I can't believe this nonsense. And you use the logic that I can't give my opinion if my opinion is negative because OP is still "the best out there". How ridiculous. And then you finish it off by saying we're taking this out on you due to a two week break. Are you fucking serious? Some people give their negative opinion on an aspect of the latest chapter in the appropriate thread and we're taking it out on you? Taking what out on you? Our anger that there's no chapter for two weeks? Well according to you if we dislike the nosebleed we hate the whole manga and its silliness so I'm not quite sure where you got that we're angry over the break, right?
God I hope some people understand here that not everyone here thinks Oda is perfect and we're just giving our opinions on the matter. Saying the entire manga is silly doesn't invalidate an opinion.
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Learn to understand what you read then. If it wasn't valid then shoot it down instead of being a pratronizing ______ :getlost:
You were making a big deal out of a little detail in a manga series. It is like critizisng if a person walks down stairs rather than up. It is a point that really doesnt matter it happened and most people deal with it because it doesnt really matter, because it is the end product that matters, rather than this little point. You are allowed to critizise when a big event in the story that affects the story rather than a little nosebleed.
Example of big events:
Blackbeard having two fruits or ace being rogers son.This is a fucking minor detail that you are critisizing. Which is allowed to be as ridiculous as it is. It will have little to do with the story, because it is the endproduct that this event causes that will have effect on the story.
And you are truly critizised for trying to arouse other members in a forum (and that was the only thing you were trying to do) because if your main problem is that nosebleed can be serious, than you truly have no problems.I hate when people take a little event and try to make a big deal about it to just critizise it as much as when people take one chapter and critizise it because they are just small spots in the whole story.
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I think since TB arc or somewhere along SA arc some people start thinking that one piece is a serious manga, so when this kinda thing occurred, they thought it was ridiculous.
They forgot that One Piece was never a really serious manga since the beginning. Well yeah, the main plot was something else, but not the rest… Using nosebleed as a plot device was nothing to be brought about. Okay, it'll be better if there were brook or franky at that time cause they would add some stupid comments but really... this is one piece and the man brought the incident was sanji. so..
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You were making a big deal out of a little detail in a manga series. It is like critizisng if a person walks down stairs rather than up. It is a point that really doesnt matter it happened and most people deal with it because it doesnt really matter, because it is the end product that matters, rather than this little point. You are allowed to critizise when a big event in the story that affects the story rather than a little nosebleed.
OK, so next time I see someone praising the manga for a little detail, I want you to make the same comment. Because, you agree with me that it would be ridiculous to prevent someone from criticizing little detail and allow another one to praise this same little detail.
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You were making a big deal out of a little detail in a manga series. It is like critizisng if a person walks down stairs rather than up. It is a point that really doesnt matter it happened and most people deal with it because it doesnt really matter, because it is the end product that matters, rather than this little point. You are allowed to critizise when a big event in the story that affects the story rather than a little nosebleed.
Example of big events:
Blackbeard having two fruits or ace being rogers son.This is a fucking minor detail that you are critisizing. Which is allowed to be as ridiculous as it is. It will have little to do with the story, because it is the endproduct that this event causes that will have effect on the story.
And you are truly critizised for trying to arouse other members in a forum (and that was the only thing you were trying to do) because if your main problem is that nosebleed can be serious, than you truly have no problems.I hate when people take a little event and try to make a big deal about it to just critizise it as much as when people take one chapter and critizise it because they are just small spots in the whole story.
This is annoying me! I wrote about something that annoyed me and people replied and in turn I responded back. What pisses me off is when people make a long-ass post implying that I stop reading because I don't 'understand' the manga. You read my posts again, yep, I'm rallying everyone to slag this god awful manga:getlost:.
You don't know the logistics behind blackbeard having 2 fruits
I was fine with Ace being Roger's son. The only other times that I have complained is about Robin as a character and Luffy's hat being Roger's.
This 'little' nosebleed is being used to progress the plot. They are moving from their current position because of this 'little' nosebleed. I've explained why this 'little' nosebleed irks me, and I don't want to explain it again as you might break down because I am criticizing such a 'small' thing.
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I think everyone agrees that you are allowed to critizise when there is a valid criticism. Your point wasnt. Simple math.
You obviously don't understand what math is if you think that made any kind of sense.
You were making a big deal out of a little detail in a manga series. It is like critizisng if a person walks down stairs rather than up. It is a point that really doesnt matter it happened and most people deal with it because it doesnt really matter, because it is the end product that matters, rather than this little point. You are allowed to critizise when a big event in the story that affects the story rather than a little nosebleed.
This is hardly nothing which is pissing people off even more. They just stole the prince's ship to save sanji. Albeit, the prince's are going to be friendly characters. If you think this nosebleed shit "doesn't matter" then you should know each chapter 3-4 panels are dedicated for sanji to have a nosebleed cause nami was breathing.
Also, who the fuck are you to decide whether people are allowed to critique something or not.
Example of big events:
Blackbeard having two fruits or ace being rogers son.
[blahbity blah, I'm a tool who doesn't know what he's talking about]
I hate when people take a little event and try to make a big deal about it to just critizise it as much as when people take one chapter and critizise it because they are just small spots in the whole story.This is not a small detail to this arc, since that is where we are at this point let's use the forum for the purpose it was designed. To discuss the manga. mm'kay? Also, it is interesting you are saying all of this bullshit about not saying we didnt like a chapter considering this is a chapter thread.
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For those of you who watched lost, during season 5 nose bleeds were used to indicate somenone was dying to do a time flash. So in sense its not original for a nose bleed to be used as a plot device. RIP Charlotte
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You obviously don't understand what math is if you think that made any kind of sense.
This is hardly nothing which is pissing people off even more. They just stole the prince's ship to save sanji. Albeit, the prince's are going to be friendly characters. If you think this nosebleed shit "doesn't matter" then you should know each chapter 3-4 panels are dedicated for sanji to have a nosebleed cause nami was breathing.
Also, who the fuck are you to decide whether people are allowed to critique something or not.
This is not a small detail to this arc, since that is where we are at this point let's use the forum for the purpose it was designed. To discuss the manga. mm'kay? Also, it is interesting you are saying all of this bullshit about not saying we didnt like a chapter considering this is a chapter thread.
I see point in discussing what will happen in the future, how events will lead to the drama that comes further in the story. Trying to understand what those events will mean. But trying to take some little events or the whole chapters to critizise to arouse everyone is indeed stupid. Because a chapter has the role to build up the next chapter, so we really dont know how good the chapter is until we read the next chapter and thus cant really critizise it.
Thus taking little details like a noseblood and critizising it is as well pretty pointless. Rather I would discuss what this bloody noseblood could cause and that is a lot more fun. Rather than critizising some little events that only have the role to further the plot.
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I see point in discussing what will happen in the future, how events will lead to the drama that comes further in the story. Trying to understand what those events will mean. But trying to take some little events or the whole chapters to critizise to arouse everyone is indeed stupid. Because a chapter has the role to build up the next chapter, so we really dont know how good the chapter is until we read the next chapter and thus cant really critizise it.
Thus taking little details like a noseblood and critizising it is as well pretty pointless. Rather I would discuss what this bloody noseblood could cause and that is a lot more fun. Rather than critizising some little events that only have the role to further the plot.
Luffy gets a log pose to Raftel, ohh sod it, I want to see what he finds there and how it will have an impact on the One Piece world
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Whatever happened to mangastream's announcement that they will be releasing the next part of the databook during this break? :/
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Luffy gets a log pose to Raftel, ohh sod it, I want to see what he finds there and how it will have an impact on the One Piece world
They all ready have a log pose, you're talking about an eternal pose ;)
But all joking aside, I don't get what everybody's so upset about, I think we can all agree that we like the manga, but many of us have something we think is a little off, right? -
They all ready have a log pose, you're talking about an eternal pose ;)
But all joking aside, I don't get what everybody's so upset about, I think we can all agree that we like the manga, but many of us have something we think is a little off, right?My bad. Yep, I think the situation with the nosebleeding is a little off, and I just voiced my opinion on it. If something appears ridiculous, then people will criticize, they won't be content with the absurd situation just to see what events unfold from it.
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all he initially said was that he didn't like that one thing and found it retarded.
why does everyone feel the need to jump down his throat? it's an opinion, let him have it.and regardless of whether you think an opinion is stupid, it's simply egotistical to try and insult them over it.
lord forbid somebody doesn't agree with ONE little part of the story, oh noes!
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Thus taking little details like a noseblood and critizising it is as well pretty pointless. Rather I would discuss what this bloody noseblood could cause and that is a lot more fun. Rather than critizising some little events that only have the role to further the plot.
Just don't dare to criticize the "critics" - they'll
bite backthrow some superfluffy cotton balls back by whining you would dare to forbid them to "criticize". It's always been that "critics" don't like to be criticized. (If this hasn't happened yet, it's probably about to surface soon.)If people don't like plotdevices like Ero gags which HAVE BEEN used in Shounen Manga for decades, no one can help them when Oda puts them in the manga. That's it.
@MDL: It's because some here try to sell their narrow minded opinion as critique and be about being criticized.
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Just don't dare to criticize the "critics" - they'll
bite backthrow some superfluffy cotton balls back by whining you would dare to forbid them to "criticize". It's always been that "critics" don't like to be criticized. (If this hasn't happened yet, it's probably about to surface soon.)If people don't like plotdevices like Ero gags which HAVE BEEN used in Shounen Manga for decades, no one can help them when Oda puts them in the manga. That's it.
@MDL: It's because some here try to sell their narrow minded opinion as critique and be about being criticized.
This a potshot at me? What about my opinion is narrowminded? Yep, a character is close to dying from an ero gag. This is fucking making me laugh. :getlost:
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Just don't dare to criticize the "critics" - they'll
bite backthrow some superfluffy cotton balls back by whining you would dare to forbid them to "criticize". It's always been that "critics" don't like to be criticized. (If this hasn't happened yet, it's probably about to surface soon.You mean the same way those who complain about critigue get nuts and yell that you shouldn't read series if you don't like every fucking joke in it?
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LOL, seriously: If you feel the urge to bite back to a comment that was pointed to someone else, then … well, that speaks for itself, doesn't it? If I would have meant YOU ONLY, I would have called you by name OR PM'd you.
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LOL, seriously: If you feel the urge to bite back to a comment that was pointed to someone else, then … well, that speaks for itself, doesn't it? If I would have meant YOU ONLY, I would have called you by name OR PM'd you.
The 'he' in MDL's post was refering to me. You're responding to that post. I've been voicing my 'narrowminded' opinion on this plotdevice for the last page or so, so what conclusion did you expect me to come to?
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That is the only part that is referring to MDL's post:
@LuffyLuffyNoMi:@MDL: It's because some here try to sell their narrow minded opinion as critique and be about being criticized.
Lacks of the word "one" to specifically point to you, Fezzik. (See, I called you) Especially since there's more users than you that seem to dislike the noseblood. I fall between the cracks - I've liked the nosebleed gag even before I started OP and can read such ones over and over - but I hate that Sanji's character is weakened… But on the other hand I "likehate" the character Sanji, too, for no perticular reason.
BTW: Isn't it natural to find
fanboys/fangirlsuberfans who defend every single bit of the favorite work we're talking about in a fan forum? Ooops, my bad, huh?! -
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LOL, seriously: If you feel the urge to bite back to a comment that was pointed to someone else, then … well, that speaks for itself, doesn't it? If I would have meant YOU ONLY, I would have called you by name OR PM'd you.
I complained about nosebleed too. Few pages ago that is. I see no problem in replying to you about that, nee?
@LuffyLuffyNoMi:BTW: Isn't it natural to find
fanboys/fangirlsuberfans who defend every single bit of the favorite work we're talking about in a fan forum? Ooops, my bad, huh?!It is also natural to find child rapers and murderers from prison. Can they be judged other than outside the walls?
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It is also natural to find child rapers and murderers from prison. Can they be judged other than outside the walls?
Hopefully you got the metaphor.Yes, that you are a child raper and murderer? That you can't stand "fanboys"? Or that you guys aren't able to find some basic forum function?
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Yes, that you are a child raper and murderer? That you can't stand "fanboys"? Or that you guys aren't able to find some basic forum function?
No comment for the first one :3
To the second almost yes. I can't stand fanboys who think that if you don't like every aspect of series, you shouldn't read it. Should this forum be open only for those who have no critique about One Piece? -
No comment for the first one :3
To the second almost yes. I can't stand fanboys who think that if you don't like every aspect of series, you shouldn't read it. Should this forum be open only for those who have no critique about One Piece?Yes but why antagonise the situation.
Person 1: I don't like X
Person 2: X was good I liked itIt goes 2 ways here
Person 1: No X Was stupid and shouldn't have been done.
Fanbois: RAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGEEEEEEEEE!
Person 1: RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEE!or
Person 1: Thats fine just couldn't appreciate X but I'm over it.
Person 2: All good how about some tea?Debates are good when presented well - people yelling abuse at each other while in some cases is funny - most times it's just pointless …. much like my post :ninja:
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So I get on topic at the child raping time? Anyway, what are we discussing about the chapter?
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Why is this so serious? This isnt the first time people has critique Op. The war had plenty of disagreement. Why does people think Op is untouchable to critism.
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I can't understand why people can't stand people don't liking some things in OP. They're just having an opinion, not being fanatic, although in my opinion stupidness being a plot device is not something new in one piece, I respect who doesn't think so, even because was hard to convince myself to bear it because I know that it might have more good reasons for it that'll appear in the next chapters, as already happened before.
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We're all guilty of Fanaticism at certain points of our lives or about certain subjects.
It's how others choose to handle it I guess.
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Fanatism is complicated, we may be one fanatic and don't realize, I think if someone sees the other being a fanatic should tell him. Not in a trolling way, of course. :ninja:
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What do you guys think the message was from Jinbei?
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Why is this so serious? This isnt the first time people has critique Op. The war had plenty of disagreement. Why does people think Op is untouchable to critism.
Anyways, is their a databook coming out.Oh Juju, here I thought, when I saw your username under the thread title, you had turned a new leaf with your new persona and had started actively discussing other topics and give some interesting input. Instead I find this. Color me disappointed.
Edit: Loving the new sig though:)
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The message from Jinbei? I think it is related to where he is, or where they can find allies.
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What do you guys think the message was from Jinbei?
When I left the island did I happen to leave behind a button? It would have been a blue one round four holes in it. It fell off from a very obvious spot and I can't actually wear that shirt again till I find it. It's been like 2 years and I keep worrying that people will one day ask me "Hey didn't you have that cool shirt? what happened to it?" I mean it wouldn't be so bad if the button wasn't missing from the middle. Unfortunately I can't use another button as there is only 2 on the shirt. I'm sure it being a blue shiney button it probably caught your attention Luffy if your not still on the island staring at the button.
If you have managed to make it to FI hopefully Rayleigh has spoken to you about the button since I left a message with him as well.Damn I love that shirt.
Jinbei
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When I left the island did I happen to leave behind a button? It would have been a blue one round four holes in it. It fell off from a very obvious spot and I can't actually wear that shirt again till I find it. It's been like 2 years and I keep worrying that people will one day ask me "Hey didn't you have that cool shirt? what happened to it?" I mean it wouldn't be so bad if the button wasn't missing from the middle. Unfortunately I can't use another button as there is only 2 on the shirt. I'm sure it being a blue shiney button it probably caught your attention Luffy if your not still on the island staring at the button.
If you have managed to make it to FI hopefully Rayleigh has spoken to you about the button since I left a message with him as well.Damn I love that shirt.
Jinbei
HAHAHAHAHA I Laughed so hard
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The message from Jinbei? I think it is related to where he is, or where they can find allies.
I think it's either a warning not to go to the human district or it's a sorry message that he wasn't able to wait for him on FMI…
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It is also natural to find child rapers and murderers from prison. Can they be judged other than outside the walls?
Hopefully you got the metaphor.This may be the worst metaphor of all time. (Before I get insulted I do understand the point he/she was trying to make. The fact that it makes a little sense makes it even worse)
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I wouldn't insult a metaphor of someone who thinks about child raping and murdering.
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When I left the island did I happen to leave behind a button? It would have been a blue one round four holes in it. It fell off from a very obvious spot and I can't actually wear that shirt again till I find it. It's been like 2 years and I keep worrying that people will one day ask me "Hey didn't you have that cool shirt? what happened to it?" I mean it wouldn't be so bad if the button wasn't missing from the middle. Unfortunately I can't use another button as there is only 2 on the shirt. I'm sure it being a blue shiney button it probably caught your attention Luffy if your not still on the island staring at the button.
If you have managed to make it to FI hopefully Rayleigh has spoken to you about the button since I left a message with him as well.Damn I love that shirt.
Jinbei
I wish this were true lol
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I wouldn't insult a metaphor of someone who thinks about child raping and murdering.
. . . what, because the person might rape and/or murder you? I seriously have no idea what you're trying to say here.
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I wish this were true lol
For some reason I could just see Jinbei thinking Luffy spent 2 years playing with a blue shiny button.
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When I left the island did I happen to leave behind a button? It would have been a blue one round four holes in it. It fell off from a very obvious spot and I can't actually wear that shirt again till I find it. It's been like 2 years and I keep worrying that people will one day ask me "Hey didn't you have that cool shirt? what happened to it?" I mean it wouldn't be so bad if the button wasn't missing from the middle. Unfortunately I can't use another button as there is only 2 on the shirt. I'm sure it being a blue shiney button it probably caught your attention Luffy if your not still on the island staring at the button.
If you have managed to make it to FI hopefully Rayleigh has spoken to you about the button since I left a message with him as well.Damn I love that shirt.
Jinbei
Permission to sig(As much as I can), this is hilarious.
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Permission to sig(As much as I can), this is hilarious.
By all means
It's not often I am sig'd :wub: