I really don't get why their so stubborn about this. It's not like it's just blind hate, but we actually explain the problems and how we would like them fixed, and all they say is "Well we'll just do the same old stuff, it sells"
General Sonic the Hedgehog Thread (Now With Movie 3 & Knuckles)
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Wait for the new sonic 4 stuff next week. If that sucks then that's it for sonic for at least another year.
Actually, this. Or at least close it until the updates, and only re-open it if they are discussion-worthy.
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Does it actually sell as much as they believe?
Sonic was never a killer app/sales monster the likes of Mario/Pokemon/Halo etc.
Of course, that's a tough challenge, but what's the most any Sonic game has sold? I find it hard to believe any Sonic game has sold more than 3 million…(pulled that number out of my ass, btw)
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Sonic WAS Sega's killer app, and it does sell modestly. The vast majority of the fanbase eats it up, though.
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It's been decided.
We'll wait on Darkstorm's thoughts about Sonic 4.
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Alrighty. The thread gets a stay of execution till the Sonic 4 news.
It better be good.
According to wikipedia, which is contradicting itself some between articles..
As of 2010, the series has collectively sold over 70 million units worldwide.'Sonic the Hedgehog 2 for the Genesis and Sonic Adventure for the Dreamcast are the best-selling games for their respective platforms.
Sonic 1 sold 4 million copies and Sonic 2 sold 6 million (and a fair number of systems) , Sonic 3 1.02, S&K 1.24 million,2.5 mill for Sonic Adventure and they've averaged about a million each since.
Sonic Unleashed sold… 5 million. (How the hell? That can't possibly be right, even with multiple systems. Different entry says 2.45 million units combined) And Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games… 7.09 million on Wii and 4.22 million copies on DS sold
Crap. No wonder they aren't concerned about quality.
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Unleashed was like two games, so most of the fanbase bought two copies :ermm:
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Unleashed was like two games, so most of the fanbase bought two copies :ermm:
Two games ? Did I miss something ? A director's cut version or something like that ?
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Differences between the Wii and 360/PS3 versions were so much they could separately be considered two entirely different games..
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Wasn't the Wii version just more Werehog? Besides the graphics that is.
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The levels were entirely different.
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Differences between the Wii and 360/PS3 versions were so much they could separately be considered two entirely different games..
Hoho, thanks for the info. I own the PS3 version, hope it's the better one… I mean the less worse.
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The PS3/360 versions were supposedly the worse..
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Yeah, I heard that too. lmao
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The PS3/360 versions were supposedly the worse..
People say the same about the Wii version so both versions hate their haters.
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True dat .
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From what I understand, that's been the case though: lots of kids buy the Sonic games, esp. the 3D ones. I suppose the Sonic brand is stronger than you'd think, despite being more or less terrible of late. He IS a mascot character with name recognition.
Makes sense that the dollars of hardcore gamers are only a drop in the bucket with sales numbers that high. Why care?
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I beg to differ. I much prefer the HD levels, myself.
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I think you guys are exaggerating a bit. The game's directed towards kids. So? If its fun, I couldn't care less.
From what I've seen this game looks fun and like anyone can pick it up and have fun. And so do many previewers. Why get angry over something so stupid?
And closing this topic because of it is just plain childish.
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Go play the original Sonic games for a few days, then read the other 149 pages of this thread, and then come back and say that.
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I have played them so many times. What's your point?
I wouldn't mind closing the thread because of trolling, but to close it because Sonic Colors is directed towards kids is just stupid. If I misunderstood the reasons sorry.
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I think you guys are exaggerating a bit. The game's directed towards kids. So? If its fun, I couldn't care less.
From what I've seen this game looks fun and like anyone can pick it up and have fun. And so do many previewers. Why get angry over something so stupid?
And closing this topic because of it is just plain childish.
I think you're the one exaggerating a bit.
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I think you guys are exaggerating a bit. The game's directed towards kids. So? If its fun, I couldn't care less.
They aren't directed at kids, they're directed at idiots who think the Sonic furry drama mythos of random Dragonball and Sci-Fi ripoffs is cool.
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@THE:
I think you're the one exaggerating a bit.
What the hell am I exaggerating? :wassat:
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What the hell am I exaggerating?
Well that piercing whining sound is pretty overbearing.
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What the hell am I exaggerating? :wassat:
Do you think Sonic Colors will be better than Sonic the Hedgehog? or Sonic Adventure?
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I don't see how I'm whining.
Do you think Sonic Colors will be better than Sonic the Hedgehog? or Sonic Adventure?
No idea. I love Adventure and I like that gameplay style. I think it'll definitely be more polished than 06, though.
Edit: Oh wait, by Sonic the Hedgehog you meant the original game, not 06, right? Than no, I don't.
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Im just wondering, lets say this game does well. B average reviews.
Would you guys try it? Or will it change opinions?
Dont get mad, im just asking.
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Rush got positive reviews so there's no point trusting the consensus.
I'm pretty sure I'll be able to tell from videos for sonic 4.
If the trailers of colours are indicative of the final game, then I can already say it's garbage.
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Im just wondering, lets say this game does well. B average reviews.
Would you guys try it? Or will it change opinions?
Dont get mad, im just asking.
They'd have to come with youtube videos that show its exactly NOT what the previous video shows… which looks like the incarnate of everything wrong with 3-D Sonic. Linear path uncontrollable rail grinding racing game with no real platforming or enemies, with moments of faux 2-D to pretend they're catering.
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Im just wondering, lets say this game does well. B average reviews.
Would you guys try it? Or will it change opinions?
I've seen a few shitty games with B ranks. It's pathetic if you ask me.
Despite the fact I know I'll find
somethingeverything wrong with it, I'll play it.But, I don't think I'll be buying it. Nope.
Dont get mad, im just asking.
Grrrrrrrrrr!!!
@robbybedfart:
Linear path uncontrollable rail grinding racing game with no real platforming or enemies, with moments of faux 2-D to pretend they're catering.
The only way I'll find "grinding" fun again in Sonic is if he grind on his balls.
I'm sick of this shit.
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Im just wondering, lets say this game does well. B average reviews.
Would you guys try it? Or will it change opinions?
Dont get mad, im just asking.
Big publications tend to score politically correctly. I stopped listening to them with music, which I actually follow, why would I care with games where I don't much anymore?
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Grinding is fun in the Tony Hawk games.
Yet its an incredible annoying chore in Sonic, that might just kill you.
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Sonic and the Rings or whatever was so out of the players control I was in disbelief.
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^Sonic and the secret rings was horrible and the people who proposed the idea of it should burn in hell.
But, Why hate the grinding so much?
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IGN on terrible game : here's 7/10.
Gamespot on terrible game : here's 5/10 reviewer gets fired (this actually happened)@Badass:
Why hate the grinding so much?
Because it's overused garbage where the player has no control because sega are trying to hide the fact they don't understand how to make games anymore.
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I thought grinding in SA2 was fun, but after that it got more and more annoying. Especially in Unleashed I didn't enjoy it.. It was too fast.
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Iizuka : this game is for young kids because teenagers/adults would notice they're NOT ACTUALLY PLAYING THE GAME.
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@robbybedfart:
Grinding is fun in the Tony Hawk games.
Yet its an incredible annoying chore in Sonic, that might just kill you.
Hell yeah! Skating as Spider-Man in Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 is where it's at!
@JERK:
Sonic and the Rings or whatever was so out of the players control I was in disbelief.
My god… that game was fucking trash.
Oh, and I hate having a friend that loved the shit out of that game.
Poor "Sonic fan to the bitter death" bastard.
I thought grinding in SA2 was fun, but after that it got more and more annoying. Especially in Unleashed I didn't enjoy it.. It was too fast.
Sonic Adventure 2 grinding was fun as fuck!
turns on Nintendo Wii
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IGN on terrible game : here's 7/10.
Gamespot on terrible game : here's 5/10 reviewer gets fired (this actually happened)Yeah, exactly this sort of bullshit.
You see it in Rolling Stone and pals all the damn time and it makes my blood boil.
RYM 4 life.They need a Rate Your Games addition, they already added movies…
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@Badass:
But, Why hate the grinding so much?
Because its long stretches of game designed to simulate speed, where you have no control over the character movement, direction, or combat, that expects you to jump side to side… but isn't designed to, so it might just kill you, that just "looks cool and kids like it" apparently.
It'd be like going to the chemical plant zone in Sonic 2, and jumping into one of those zoom tubes, and then it taking you around the entire level for the next 3 minutes instead of just 7 seconds.
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Rolling Stone sucks ass…
On-Topic: just like Sonic.
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@robbybedfart:
Because its long stretches of game designed to simulate speed, where you have no control over the character movement, direction, or combat, that expects you to jump side to side… but isn't designed to, so it might just kill you, that just "looks cool and kids like it" apparently.
It'd be like going to the chemical plant zone in Sonic 2, and jumping into one of those zoom tubes, and then it taking you around the entire level for the next 3 minutes instead of just 7 seconds.
What zoom tubes in Chemical what?.. I MEAN I MEAN
Yes I understand what you are saying and have played Sonic the Hedgehog 3, it's just uh not as much has changed as you think… give this new game a chance. -
SATSR did have 0 control.
Game: "Try getting that trail of rings on that high rail, Haha now try and move your ass backwords to try again, Failure."
Now that i remembered it, i threw my Wii mote more times playing that game than any other in my life.
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This is kinda the same problem with the dimps games, where you get 10 speed boosts in a row followed by a bottomless pit that they encouraged you to jump towards.
Too much speed & bad level design, (bad physics par for the course by this stage).
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l63hdcmGOVM .
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SATSR did have 0 control.
Game: "Try getting that trail of rings on that high rail, Haha now try and move your ass backwords to try again, Failure."
Now that i remembered it, i threw my Wii mote more times playing that game than any other in my life.
Sonic and the Secret Rings was horrible. You weren't really doing anything in the game. You kept going forward. NO. MATTER. WHAT.
And then you had to break your wrists to have him jump.
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It was basically a dragons lair clone with intensely terrible music.
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I'm just sick and tired of these Unleashed-style games.
You're going to keep going FOWARD, but for nostalgia's sake, we're going to let you do 2D shit for 2 seconds.
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More games being pumped out for a downhill franchise.
Talk about creativity.