But how do you survive a massive ass bomb explosion!!! haha
Dude where have you been. At the end of the Alarabasta war, he was seen going out of a tent after a doctor healed him, and then he returned and was standing next to his grave, surprised.
But how do you survive a massive ass bomb explosion!!! haha
Dude where have you been. At the end of the Alarabasta war, he was seen going out of a tent after a doctor healed him, and then he returned and was standing next to his grave, surprised.
and whats these WINGS things? how is wings going to help luffy?
got me lol I do believe it is something with Luffy's appearance tho (because Vivi says "Stylish naa maybe not" or something like that)
OK so Luffy married Boa, took over AL with his BIG name and after that he put wings on his back… What shocking news.
OK so Luffy married Boa, took over AL with his BIG name and after that he put wings on his back… What shocking news.
ok well i'm not going to back up many of those things cause some do seem like "what?" but at least I have my own predictions.
more annoying than a moronic prediction is someone who has no prediction yet just calls others morons. Its like look at me I'm clueless and have no idea about anything in this chapter yet your all morons for guessing this or that.
its like a "whats the dirivitive of x^2, and someone gives their guess and your calling them a moron. they ask you what you think it is and you say "i dont' know" wow way to show them. saying I dont' know doesn't make you any smarter than the dumbest prediction
ok well i'm not going to back up many of those things cause some do seem like "what?" but at least I have my own predictions.
more annoying than a moronic prediction is someone who has no prediction yet just calls others morons. Its like look at me I'm clueless and have no idea about anything in this chapter yet your all morons for guessing this or that.
its like a "whats the dirivitive of x^2, and someone gives their guess and your calling them a moron. they ask you what you think it is and you say "i dont' know" wow way to show them. saying I dont' know doesn't make you any smarter than the dumbest prediction
Amen to that no one else prediction's matter stick to your own
ok well i'm not going to back up many of those things cause some do seem like "what?" but at least I have my own predictions.
more annoying than a moronic prediction is someone who has no prediction yet just calls others morons. Its like look at me I'm clueless and have no idea about anything in this chapter yet your all morons for guessing this or that.
its like a "whats the dirivitive of x^2, and someone gives their guess and your calling them a moron. they ask you what you think it is and you say "i dont' know" wow way to show them. saying I dont' know doesn't make you any smarter than the dumbest prediction
I knew you should stay on THAT list…
Really all of the theories doesn't make sense and aren't big enough to suprise the whole world^^
Let us see
Oh he married Boa - Nahhh boring... Boa = traitor and AL will be doomed... But I know Al >>> WB pirates + ID + 41 NW captains
Oh he took over AL with his name - Top tier pirates are laughing there asses off
He has wings - OH my god... We are doomed
Just because I don't put some random theories here in like a crazy idiot doesn't mean I have to agree with your shit or say... Yeah just because I have no idea your shit is likely. Oda already showed he is unpredictable and non of your shit will come true
Or maybe I start with you and will write random theories which always has to do with a certain character all the time^^
But goodbye once again my friend
NEXT week Sammsy prediction... Sengoku farted... Something evil is coming to AL
yea how dare we bring up a prediction that involves a place Luffy was last seen and a person Luffy was last with.
man are we morons. its totally obvious luffy went to some random snow island and pissed his name in the snow.
yea how dare we bring up a prediction that involves a place Luffy was last seen and a person Luffy was last with.
man are we morons. its totally obvious luffy went to some random snow island and pissed his name in the snow.
I can actually see Luffy doing that lol
yea how dare we bring up a prediction that involves a place Luffy was last seen and a person Luffy was last with.
man are we morons. its totally obvious luffy went to some random snow island and pissed his name in the snow.
Are you really that simple minded? That isn't what I said… I never said it has nothing to do with AL just that the theories here about a marriage, take over AL or freaking WINGS are shit.
btw you are on the list once again from now on
But on topic
At least we know from Croc that the "incident" has to do with Jinbei. He said both barely survived and now they are doing such a stunt.
If the rest like Boa and Rayleigh are involved in the new isn't even hinted for now.
I can't see Luffy already left AL without Oda showing it... But how could be Luffy in the news. I doubt he made a photo of himself and sent it to the marines. And I doubt the marines know about his place^^
So either he left already or Rayleigh really had master plan.
A other thing what could happen is something similar to The Zoro v Ryuuma fight where we saw Zoro flying out of the building... Next week we will jump some days back and see what happened instead only showing the news
Hey Sammsy, if it's not too much trouble, could you repost your list of the things we know about the "Luffy Incident" that you posted in the Spoilers thread (with the addtional info about Cobra or w/e it was added) here in this thread? I tried to do a search, but has some troubles, and was hoping you'd either recall them all or have it on your computer somewhere. It was a good, solid basic list with only supportable facts from the Manga, and I wanted to have it for reference.
what about luffy taking another tour from reverse mountain? with jinbei on a tour to search for his lost nakama declaring to the world that his previous tour seemed to be not enough to reach the new world. so he takes another one to train and learn more about the grandline and make more allies. here we will get the time skip to the scenario with all together again on the sunny leaving SA and following jinbei and others to fishman island.
I can actually see Luffy doing that lol
i could too, but how is that WORLD NEW SHATTERING
Hell even if he spray painted his flag at enies lobby, impel down or marineford i can't see that being OMG, or even the WG reporting it. So I just don't see how it could be just vandalism.
I'm not sure how WING's could be insane news either.
Punching a tenryuubito doesn't really give off a "dont' want to repeat shabondy incident again" vibe
I guess a wedding announcement would be WTF, but to me that just seems WTF
I see no reason why luffy would reattack one of the 3 places (ID, Mareinford, Enies Lobby)
Doesn't seem to have been an incident at Shabondy since the people there seemed to only notice this stop the presses only through the paper.
I really hope Luffy doesn't go to fishman island BEFORE the crew returns, so really by my personal elimination list I just see as only thing left that we COULD GUESS ON, and not be something unknown, is proclaiming Amazon Lily his, or lying that he attacked Amazon Lily.
oh and kishido, i love how you feel the need to announce who your putting on ignore list
where the hell did the wing theory come from?
@I:
Hey Sammsy, if it's not too much trouble, could you repost your list of the things we know about the "Luffy Incident" that you posted in the Spoilers thread (with the addtional info about Cobra or w/e it was added) here in this thread? I tried to do a search, but has some troubles, and was hoping you'd either recall them all or have it on your computer somewhere. It was a good, solid basic list with only supportable facts from the Manga, and I wanted to have it for reference.
here it was
so lets get a quick checklist on what crazy thing Luffy did
1. Cobra approves
2. Shows Luffy has surpased either or both his mental wounds and physical wounds
3. Within a week's sail at most of Amazon Lily
4. Proves to Shakky that Rayleigh found Luffy
5. Proves Luffy is safe via Robin and others
6. Luffy's current location now broadcast WW in paper
7. Robin finds it amusing
where the hell did the wing theory come from?
someone staring at the newspaper thought it looked like luffy in the picture and that he had wings on his back
where the hell did the wing theory come from?
Someone saw Luffy with wings in the newspapers after looking 5 minutes on it…
And than put in here... that Luffy is fyling over the ocean
i could too, but how is that WORLD NEW SHATTERING
Hell even if he spray painted his flag at enies lobby, impel down or marineford i can't see that being OMG, or even the WG reporting it. So I just don't see how it could be just vandalism.
I'm not sure how WING's could be insane news either.
Punching a tenryuubito doesn't really give off a "dont' want to repeat shabondy incident again" vibe
I guess a wedding announcement would be WTF, but to me that just seems WTF
I see no reason why luffy would reattack one of the 3 places (ID, Mareinford, Enies Lobby)
Does seem to have been an incident at Shabondy since the people there seemed to only notice this stop the presses even through the paper.
I really hope Luffy doesn't go to fishman island BEFORE the crew returns, so really by my personal elimination list I just see as only thing left that we COULD GUESS ON, and not be something unknown, is proclaiming Amazon Lily his, or lying that he attacked Amazon Lily.
oh and kishido, i love how you feel the need to announce who your putting on ignore list
Yeah I agree. Luffy going to Fishmen Island before his crew returns would be a retarded move on his part anyway.
is that a mistake, or Marines edited Sanji's poster because the eyebrow is now swirling right.
someone staring at the newspaper thought it looked like luffy in the picture and that he had wings on his back
You know I tryed looking at that and I didn't see Luffy or anything that would look like Luffy in the paper Robin was holding
here it was
so lets get a quick checklist on what crazy thing Luffy did
1. Cobra approves
2. Shows Luffy has surpased either or both his mental wounds and physical wounds
3. Within a week's sail at most of Amazon Lily
4. Proves to Shakky that Rayleigh found Luffy
5. Proves Luffy is safe via Robin and others
6. Luffy's current location now broadcast WW in paper
7. Robin finds it amusing
Thank you
Not sure if it's notable enough to add, but also
8. proves that whatever he did was big/strange/crazy enough to get in the paper to begin with
9. Sanji and Chopper had what appeared to be a shocked reaction to it
10. Something about it puzzled and/or concerned Vivi and had her asking about something to do with fashion or something similar (perhaps related to his appearance in the paper or the appearance the event itself has or creates for him?)
the most confusing thing about all this is the timelines.
when did each strawhat read the paper? seems like nami and usopp only read about ace dying and want to get back to luffy asap for that. the others seem like they read a newer paper about this incident. and zoro not sure, is his info just based on mihawk's first hand account?
3. Within a week's sail at most of Amazon Lily
Why would it be a week at most? Hasn't 3 weeks passed?
Also, it may or may not be stylish.
Why would it be a week at most? Hasn't 3 weeks passed?
Also, it may or may not be stylish.
yes 3 weeks have past since the war. but 1 week ago we saw luffy on amazon lily. thus only 1 week to go to wherever he would go if he did.
but left out stylish cause hard to tell if this is meaning characteristic/behavioral stylish or the clothing stylish. You know like for example luffy takes after shanks in many fashions, and such as claiming a territory could be thought of as taking after Wb in that fashion. or it could be clothing or something like that. thus left it out
the most confusing thing about all this is the timelines.
when did each strawhat read the paper? seems like nami and usopp only read about ace dying and want to get back to luffy asap for that. the others seem like they read a newer paper about this incident. and zoro not sure, is his info just based on mihawk's first hand account?
Very true about the time line. It is confusing and perhaps deliberately vague on Oda's part.
Mihawk had a paper, so there's a chance Zoro read at elast the front page, although he did say he heard news from Mihawk, so it's up for debate. He can be impatient when he gets riled up.
@I:
Very true about the time line. It is confusing and perhaps deliberately vague on Oda's part.
Mihawk had a paper, so there's a chance Zoro read at elast the front page, although he did say he heard news from Mihawk, so it's up for debate. He can be impatient when he gets riled up.
oh yea forgot he read paper to perona.
but again, which paper, was this just stating war facts, like luffy in war, moria dying, whitebeard dead, ect.
or was this also the paper showing was outrageous thing luffy did after being mia for a coupel weeks after war.
Why would it be a week at most? Hasn't 3 weeks passed?
Also, it may or may not be stylish.
Yeah if it's "style" that's being implied, then the possibilites are much greater, but she specifically threw out that idea because "it's Luffy after all…" which seems to imply... something (I was gonna try and say fashion over style, but neither are something Luffy cares about, so...) ..."What" is still a mystery
oh yea forgot he read paper to perona.
but again, which paper, was this just stating war facts, like luffy in war, moria dying, whitebeard dead, ect.
or was this also the paper showing was outrageous thing luffy did after being mia for a coupel weeks after war.
I don't think the time was pinpointed specifically until this week with Crocodile, but it's clear Chopper saw two papers, so that's a mystery at the moment too, lol.
Oda is such a dog this week. Bet he's finding it hard to sleep 'cause he's chuckling so hard thinking of our reactions.
I just read the chapter and it doesn't state anywhere that Zoro heard it from Mihawk Zoro just says "You heard what happened to Luffy." to Mihawk
I just read the chapter and it doesn't state anywhere that Zoro heard it from Mihawk Zoro just says "You heard what happened to Luffy." to Mihawk
Thank you, I stand corrected then. But it's also not clear on whether he read it or heard from Mihawk, though, just ftr
@I:
Thank you, I stand corrected then. But it's also not clear on whether he read it or heard from Mihawk, though, just ftr
I would say Zoro read it himself Mihawk isn't the type to read to people he would say "read it yourself" or something witty
but what is zoro saying "you heard what happened to luffy about"
is this about ace dying in his arms? is this about the breaking news event luffy just did?
but what is zoro saying "you heard what happened to luffy about"
is this about ace dying in his arms? is this about the breaking news event luffy just did?
I think he was referring to Ace dying but that is my opinion. Mainly because everyone elses reaction (cept for Usopp, Nami, and chopper) make me think its more of a "What is Luffy doing?" more than "What Happened to him?".
I don't like the Luffy has claimed AL as his own theory.
I'd rather go with the theory that Luffy has ripped apart some large marine base, took down their flag, and put up his own. Even this theory sounds ambiguous, but not entirely unlikely. It somewhat fulfills the answer to everyone's reaction to a better extent.
I also don't think that Luffy would stay put after he had committed such an incredible stunt.
My theory:
Margaret said that she would make Luffy some new clothing with no frills. In other words, she thinks the only difference between men's and women's clothing is that men's clothing does not have frills. So she would see no problem with giving Luffy a skirt. Luffy, not wanting to offend her like he did the first time he complained about his clothing, excepts them. Then he and Rayleigh do some crazy stunt with Luffy in a skirt. Sanji, Robin, and Vivi, who are use to Luffy's antics, only react to a photo of Luffy in a skirt, while Chopper, who is much more panicky than the others, the revolutionaries, and Croc react the the stunt itself.
My theory:
Margaret said that she would make Luffy some new clothing with no frills. In other words, she thinks the only difference between men's and women's clothing is that men's clothing does not have frills. So she would see no problem with giving Luffy a skirt. Luffy, not wanting to offend her like he did the first time he complained about his clothing, excepts them. Then he and Rayleigh do some crazy stunt with Luffy in a skirt. Sanji, Robin, and Vivi, who are use to Luffy's antics, only react to a photo of Luffy in a skirt, while Chopper, who is much more panicky than the others, the revolutionaries, and Croc react the the stunt itself.
That is a good point I forgot she said that
OK we need to remember that the "news" theories we make need not only to fit the list of "facts" Sammsy wrote about the chapter, but also that they need to fit Luffy's personality, and what we know about him from 12 years of charcter development. He doesn't just do stuff for the shock value. Whatever it is that Rayleigh talked him into, it has to be something he'd be ok with doing. He may not be the sharpest blade in the drawer, but he is decisive, and not easily swayed from a course of action once he's decided on it. PLus he was also depressed (or at least was last we saw him) and injured, and anxious to see his crew but particularly sensitive about their safety after what he's just gone through.
Oh yeah, and we forgot to add KiShiDo's idea about Jimbei saying "Those idiots" plural, which could be/is most likely referring to Luffy and Jimbei, not just Luffy–so that needs to be factored in as well. Jimbei is no fool and has dedicated himself, for the immediate future anyway, to protecting Luffy at all costs... Can we see his involvment as indicative that it was a dangerous thing to do?
The news are: "Hancock is going to marry Luffy". Next, wedding at Fishman Island.
nice chapter,
maybe buggy is invited by the marines to be shichibukai :)
@Don:
ohhh and by the way…
i dont like that camie etc are planning what to do in FI when the SH
s come back.
means we will have them still with us for a longer time:sad:
I agree f**** free riders :getlost:
on another note will make a serious post in a short time
In the chapter before last chopper said something about luffy doing something "again" which made me think the big news is something that he was already notorious for and was reckless enough to do again…. like punching a tenryuubito. Just a guess though
sorry, but hancock just can't stay relevant as a shichibukai by staying on amazon lily.
Also to add to the list, whatever appeared in the paper indicates where Luffy is, according to Iva-chan (and this ties in, of course, to the 1 week or less away from AL theory, because it has to make sense logically for Ivankov, since he actually knew for sure where Luffy was–and the location was not surprising to him. Seems possible, even, that it actually reveals him to be on AL itself)
I would go further and say it was something that happened less than a week ago, as it had to have some time, at least a day or a bit more, to get into the paper and for the paper to be delivered to all those places.
@SkyheroY--I realize there's a long thread to read here, but it's been pointed out several times in the most recent pages that the translation which has Chopper saying "Not again" is a mistranslation, and in fact that bit of Japanese means something along the lines of "What now"
In the chapter before last chopper said something about luffy doing something "again" which made me think the big news is something that he was already notorious for and was reckless enough to do again…. like punching a tenryuubito. Just a guess though
Kishido told me it was a mistranslation that he made and chopper actually said "what now?" or something like that
sorry, but hancock just can't stay relevant as a shichibukai by staying on amazon lily.
This doesn't make sense. She's been living on AL all her life save for when she was a slave. How does her relevance in the Shichibukai change all of a sudden because she lives there?
sorry, but hancock just can't stay relevant as a shichibukai by staying on amazon lily.
Sure she can. Unless the WG wants them, like during the war, it's clear that the Shikibukai jsut go on about their business as if nothing has changed even after gaining the title.
Which reminds me–why are they called "Royal" Shichibukai? Aohige, if you are around and/or you search this out, is that translation of the name accurate? I haven't seen any monarchs (yet). The closest we get are the 5 elder stars. Is it just something to add majesty to the title?
I think the whole thing with Vivi commenting on style is Marguerite's new clothes for Luffy since she did say she wanted to make him some a couple of chapters ago.
sorry, but hancock just can't stay relevant as a shichibukai by staying on amazon lily.
Just because you're a Warlord doesn't mean you have to be relevant. Just look at Moria.
Kishido told me it was a mistranslation that he made and chopper actually said "what now?" or something like that
It's not a mistranslation, it can mean both "why again?" and "what now?".
It's not a mistranslation, it can mean both "why again?" and "what now?".
perhaps, but he told me it was a mistranslation a few hours ago and I don't speak japanese so yes, I believe him