That's actually a pretty good idea, sabz, but I still don't think Oda would do that. He would have reason however, as he hates his life as a noble and wants to rebel against it.
Chapter 585 "Brothers' Cup" Discussion
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wasn`t kuma now the first person who was totally mind controlled by the WG (vegapunk).
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@Don:
wasn`t kuma now the first person who was totally mind controlled by the WG (vegapunk).
Probably. Kuma is the puppet and Dofla is the puppeter. The have the whole set.
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so Sabo can
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Where you got that mind control stuff from? Luffy would still consider him as brother^^
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Where you got that mind control stuff from? Luffy would still consider him as brother^^
IDK, I saw someone mention it and I liked for some reason…
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IDK, I saw someone mention it and I liked for some reason…
Well let us see… Even if Luffy is somehow "betrayed" by someone he still sees in him/her as nakama or in Sabo's case as brother. (Look at Nami and Robin)
But he still says he ONLY had one brother^^
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t know it… when Sabo was mind controlled so that luffy thought he ... well, i don
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@Don:
not when he doesn
t know it… when Sabo was mind controlled so that luffy thought he ... well, i don
t believe in this either so why giving it any more thoughts^^Nami betrayed them and he didn't know about her story and still he still have seen in her a friend. Same for Robin.
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meaned when Sabo got a mind controlling operation orso luffy wouldn`t know about it cause that would than happen a few years later^^
so far for this flashback Sabo could say in the end something like:
"dont mind me right now..follow your own dreams, i will achieve what i want" and he goes off with the tenryibuto.. luffy won
t accept it first but ace will understand that Sabo "sacrifced" himself for them..only problem is, that even ace didn`t seem to count Sabo anymore as his brother or else he would have said while he was dieing that he hopes that luffy will see Sabo again or something like that ^^
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@Don:
meaned when Sabo got a mind controlling operation orso luffy wouldn`t know about it cause that would than happen a few years later^^
so far for this flashback Sabo could say in the end something like:
"dont mind me right now..follow your own dreams, i will achieve what i want" and he goes off with the tenryibuto.. luffy won
t accept it first but ace will understand that Sabo "sacrifced" himself for them..only problem is, that even ace didn`t seem to count Sabo anymore as his brother or else he would have said while he was dieing that he hopes that luffy will see Sabo again or something like that ^^
Yeah somehow this time I have no doubts that Sabo will die…
Ace would mention him
Luffy wouldn't say he ONLY had one brother cuz even if gone Luffy would still consider him as brotherDamn but I hope Oda, like always, will make a great twist and we see Sabo once again. He seems that important
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at first i also thought that Sabo has to die…
but than luffy would know how it feels to lose a brother^^
also Sabo would be a great chara in the future and a great bridge for future events with the tenryibuto
also Sabo seemed to be the one of those 3 who had to walk the bad way and had to see the ugly things in life (ironic cause he chosed to go to the trash instead of living with his noble family..)and now his life with the tenryibuto maybe could have changed his mind a bit to the worse..but still there is an opening for luffy to get him back on track later. -
What I'm thinking right now is, if Sabo dies, what is going to stop his father from having Luffy and Ace killed?
If Sabo were to die, he would probably blame them.
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What I'm thinking right now is, if Sabo dies, what is going to stop his father from having Luffy and Ace killed?
If Sabo were to die, he would probably blame them.
Capturing them. Or if he killed him himself.
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well, there could still be someone like Dadan who will rescue ace and luffy in the end…
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God this flashback is so stupid and annoying. I hate that they are giving us this instead of showing more of the Strawhats and what is happening to them.
Oh well at least the Anime is getting interesting
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God this flashback is so stupid and annoying. I hate that they are giving us this instead of showing more of the Strawhats and what is happening to them.
We need to get this out of the way. Consider it closure.
Besides, we can infer what's going on with the crew right now.
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God this flashback is so stupid and annoying. I hate that they are giving us this instead of showing more of the Strawhats and what is happening to them.
Oh well at least the Anime is getting interesting
Stop whining, if we aren't lucky we maybe even get a AL arc…
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This is probably one of the few important flashbacks
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This is probably one of the few important flashbacks
All the strawhat's flashback's have been important.
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God this flashback is so stupid and annoying. I hate that they are giving us this instead of showing more of the Strawhats and what is happening to them.
Oda is doing this flashback for a reason, and I guarantee you that it will have some great relevance in the future. So just sit back and enjoy it.
Personally I wasn't really feeling it until this chapter, but I really enjoyed it. How Sabo's father is a noble and how Sabo really doesn't want to be a part of them. And with that I think he just might not be dead. My first thought was that he probably will die, but now I don't think he will. I could be wrong, though. The panel from before where Luffy says that Ace is his only brother is interesting, though.
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All the strawhat's flashback's have been important.
Not to me Luffy's flashbacks have been the only real important ones
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Not to me Luffy's flashbacks are the only real important ones
That's a bit ridiculous. You don't think that Robin's flashback was in the least bit important?
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Mind control… Really?
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All of the flashbacks have served as a way to reveal/ solidify the Strawhat's dream by providing a basis for them.
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Ryuunaga is an Usopp fan. He's obviously lying about the lack of importance of the other SH's flashbacks :ninja:
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Ryuunaga is an Usopp fan. He's obviously lying about the lack of importance of the other SH's flashbacks :ninja:
He's just jealous that Usopp's was least important.
@Corson:
Mind control… Really?
[qimg]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4625288738_a95de0b045_o.jpg[/qimg]Wait. That's a serious theory? People here actually think that Sabo is being mind controlled?
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That's a bit ridiculous. You don't think that Robin's flashback was in the least bit important?
Ok yes Robins is important because of Poneglyph and Blank History tie in
Ryuunaga is an Usopp fan. He's obviously lying about the lack of importance of the other SH's flashbacks :ninja:
Im not lieing leave my Usopp fandom out of this it didn't do anything to you…
He's just jealous that Usopp's was least important.
What does that have to do with anything?
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@Robo:
Wait. That's a serious theory? People here actually think that Sabo is being mind controlled?
I used to, but now that I think about it, I'm an idiot.
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What does that have to do with anything?
I was making a joke. I said you called all the flashbacks unimportant because you were jealous of them for being more important than Usopps.
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Not very excited about this chapter, I hope this flashback will finish soon. I really want to see the SHs. :(
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Not very excited about this chapter, I hope this flashback will finish soon. I really want to see the SHs. :(
After this we will have an AL arc
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AL arc#2 more accurately
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I suspect that Sabo will turn on them … maybe stealing back all their accumulated treasure? ... which is why they will no longer consider him a brother ...
I don't know why, but I constantly get this impression of Sabo being connected to blackbeard somehow. Don't know why, just a feeling I get ...
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I wonder why Oda decided to leave that par twhere Luffy apparently says "going to be pirate king" out.
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Because of this: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/506/17/
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so am i the only one who thinks sabo will join the SHP ?
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No, there's been plenty of discussion in the Next Crewmate Discussion thread.
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No, there's been plenty of discussion in the Next Crewmate Discussion thread.
Ah maybe I should discuss it over there then.
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Because of this: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/506/17/
Not sure I get it. Did he was what Roger had said there? Is it some sort of unrevealed thing what that saying was?
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Not sure I get it. Did he was what Roger had said there? Is it some sort of unrevealed thing what that saying was?
Yes, crafty Oda is setting us up. I wouldn't be at all surprised if its something really funny after all this build up, either.
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@I:
Yes, crafty Oda is setting us up. I wouldn't be at all surprised if its something really funny after all this build up, either.
Yeah, Luffy probably turned super intellectual there and put on his reading glasses…
And Shanks spyed on him via denden mushi bug to witness this moment. -
Yeah, Luffy probably turned super intellectual there and put on his reading glasses…
Then he started talking about the deep meanings in Atlas Shrugged.
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Define important.
This flashback isn't as important as Robin's, but damn is it fun.
Robin's was important in terms of some plot information/her character, but Luffy is the main character of this manga. His journey is primarily the whole point of the series. Therefore any flashback/character development related to him is the most important - and, of course, the flashback isn't even over yet. There could be some big reveals at the end.
[Edit] Not to mention, the revelation that Luffy has/had another brother seems pretty damn important to me!
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@Cyan:
Define important.
This flashback isn't as important as Robin's, but damn is it fun.
I wouldn't write this flashback off just yet. We still need to see where Oda goes with this. I'm hoping for a future Sabo that joins the SHP. So until we know what impact this flashback has on the story it's way too soon to write it off.
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The Luffy is the main character argument does have it's pros .
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Maybe Bluejam will attack Luffy and Ace, and Sabo will come and try to rescue them, but he'll get killed. Then Luffy and Ace'll get angry and beat the crap out of Bluejam and his pirates and start crying after that for their dead brother. This may be a stupid theory to some of you, but at least it's better than mindcontrol.
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so sabo luffy and ace have become brothers right?.. and we know that luffys charachter isnt the one who will let his comrades been taken by anyone right?.. so if sabo ends up taken from the nobles or the mthfking tenryoubito then maby this is the reason why luffy cant stand to loose anyone anymore thats why he fights… taking the los of sabo as a lesson for his life... i just hope that sabo doesnt die because it would be to predictable as we have been reading in the threads for so long... bon clay for namakama
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Every nice chapter. I really hope to see Sabo again. He is one the coolest kids in a series I have seen.