It's the other way around. Invader Zim helps angsty teens learn to accept and laugh at the advent of human idiocy. And, personally, I love the juxtaposition of that random children's humor with the themes of organ harvesting, mass genocide and universal implosion.
5 Simple steps to make watching television worthile again.
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It's the other way around. Invader Zim helps angsty teens learn to accept and laugh at the advent of human idiocy. And, personally, I love the juxtaposition of that random children's humor with the themes of organ harvesting, mass genocide and universal implosion.
I think you're reading too much into that show or http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NostalgiaFilter
I mean it could be funny sometimes but looking back
eeeeeeeh
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Invader Zim is like someone stuffed a hot topic kid with sugar and caffeine and just let it go wild. And all I want to do if I see it these days is hunt it like the feral animal it is.
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You say that because it turned into a Hot Topic trend (or not, but that certainly doesn't help its reputation). Remove the pseudo-goth aesthetic and you see less angst than general social parody, the type that we see in shows like The Simpsons, South Park, The Critic or whatever your particular cup of tea may be. Inject a level of childish randomness and place it in a run down atmosphere and you've got Invader Zim. But if you don't enjoy it, then that's fine. I'm just presenting what I see in the show.
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@Badass:
And Family Guy's been whored out past its prime. I watched a few episodes and it did evoke some laughs in me. But it's not funny enough to warrant 2 other MacFarlane shows. People act like he's a comedy genius. No.
Yes, Seth McFarlane is no comedic genius, that's for sure, but he sure as hell is an entertainment genius. The fact is that he is still able to provide fresh ideas for his show (I won't speak for AD/TCS, because of the fact that they don't interest me as much or at least not American Dad), regardless that his only source for that is randomness and stupidity. But isn't that what you'd expect in a comedy, anyway? You don't want seriousness, do you? The whole goal is for the show to entertain you and make you forget your problems for a while. If the show has accomplished that, you know it's a good show, you'll want to watch it again. What I'm saying is, it's not just for laughs. If you can relate to it, that's even better. But if you want a show that would make you explode with laughter non-stop, you're better off watching stand-up comedy or, I don't know, depends on your sense of humor.
@Roz:
That's just a side-effect of Family Guy turning your brain into pudding.
OK, Roz, you seem to have a lot of experience with Family Guy, so why don't you elaborate? I have watched every single episode of Family Guy, including the movie and specials and I can say that I feel just fine. The series has improved in certain areas, and worsened in others, that happens with every show eventually.
@Cyan:
It was better when Peter wasn't retarded, Brian wasn't Seth preaching, Stewie was a total sociopath, and Meg wasn't the local chew toy.
OK, when was Peter not retarded and when was Meg not the show's punching bag? The show's point is to combine the stereotypical and completely atypical in American families, I mean, can you imagine Meg being the most popular girl at her school? That'd be pretty boring to watch. I have to agree with you that Brian has worsened in terms of character, but on the bright side, now he's more active in the show, while back then he seemed like the "lite" version of the punching bag - mostly quiet, just consuming alcohol and only useful for extreme situations, and also picked on often for his views on things. And Stewie, yes, he was a lot better back then, can't argue with that. But yeah, you win some, you lose some.
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But isn't that what you'd expect in a comedy, anyway? You don't want seriousness, do you? The whole goal is for the show to entertain you and make you forget your problems for a while.
you're not taking into consideration that there isn't just one type of comedy out there http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comedic_genres
something doesn't have to be racist joke fart joke dumb random pop culture humor joke honk honk to be funny
If the show has accomplished that, you know it's a good show, you'll want to watch it again. What I'm saying is, it's not just for laughs. If you can relate to it, that's even better.
if something clicks with you and you love it and get a positive experience out of it, cool. I think some people here were just saying they decidedly did not enjoy family guy, that they took nothing of value away from it, didn't laugh/find it funny, etc
But if you want a show that would make you explode with laughter non-stop, you're better off watching stand-up comedy or, I don't know, depends on your sense of humor.
haha, precisely
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OK, Roz, you seem to have a lot of experience with Family Guy, so why don't you elaborate? I have watched every single episode of Family Guy, including the movie and specials and I can say that I feel just fine. The series has improved in certain areas, and worsened in others, that happens with every show eventually.
sometimes I make jokes about things
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MiniLuffy is straining at the seams not to break his false modern persona and rip Roz to shreds with terrible whiny posts.
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@JERK:
MiniLuffy is straining at the seams not to break his false modern persona and rip Roz to shreds with terrible whiny posts.
"wahahwahahdahdawhdahfh dieeee wahhawhadhada8hfa opens up dictionary oooh that word's perfect whahwahawwhah"Nice try, troll. But she was, after all, disrespecting one of my favorite shows without a reason.
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Nice try, troll. But he was, after all, disrespecting one of my favorite shows without a reason.
I believe there was quite an obvious reason in that she (we) doesn't (don't) like the show.
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Roz is female .
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Fine, I'll be politically correct…
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For the first time in forever I thought that Miniluffy was actually fighting for a sound and just cause. Then I realized that he was backing up Family Guy.
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Lol, I find it funny how my comment made both Miniluffy and Wagomu edit their posts.
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I'm not saying that I hate Family Guy. I'm saying that it's not as awesome as everyone's making it out to be. It's mediocre, at best.
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For the first time in forever I thought that Miniluffy was actually fighting for a sound and just cause. Then I realized that he was backing up Family Guy.
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What's so terrible about Family Guy? I mean, sure, I realize now that a lot of people dislike it, but nearly all of those people use the same arguments over and over like "I just find the humor dumb", "It's childish", "I don't like it" (that one is not even an argument, actually) and nothing beyond that. I just can't help but think that most of the aforementioned people haven't watched more than 3 (maximum) episodes. Furthermore, I also have the feeling that some these people have fallen to the "hater" trap. That is, you notice that a majority of people find something terrible and ignorantly, you begin to share their opinion without seeing the real thing for yourself. Much like what happened to Twilight. And that's really lame.
TLC, that is why they invented the Edit button.
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Much like what happened to Twilight. And that's really lame.
Wat.
Are you saying that Twilight is actually enjoyable?
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Wat.
Are you saying that Twilight is actually enjoyable?
He's probably one of those kids who think it's the "in" thing to hate on the haters.
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Wat.
Are you saying that Twilight is actually enjoyable?
Dear God, I was so expecting that reply.
I did neither say that nor imply it.
@Cyan:
He's probably one of those kids who think it's the "in" thing to hate on the haters.
Sigh No.
Please stop trying to guess my thoughts, as this has nothing to do with the current discussion and is really annoying me.
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That would be an extremely pointless thing to do, as I decided to treat everyone equally from now on. To save myself from trouble, if nothing else.
wow that lasted all of 20 days
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"I just find the humor dumb", "It's childish".
That's pretty much it. You already answered it your own question.
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TLC, that is why they invented the Edit button.
Well you better use it again posthaste because I am NOT TLC anymore.
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You'll always be TLC in my heart.
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Dear God, I was so expecting that reply.
I did neither say that nor imply it.
Sigh No.
Please stop trying to guess my thoughts, as this has nothing to do with the current discussion and is really annoying me.
I can see what you are saying here, but this is the internet.
Your attempt to restore order will be in vain, and if you can't enjoy it, you're better "turning 360 degrees and walking away".
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Nice try, troll. But she was, after all, disrespecting one of my favorite shows without a reason.
Cripes!
For a fan of a cartoon that is highly focused on humor, you don't seem to have much of a sense of it.
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@Roz:
Cripes!
For a fan of a cartoon that is highly focused on humor, you don't seem to have much of a sense of it.
We gave it a rest already Roz, sheesh.
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I was just sayin'.
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Am I the only one here on the verge of Nuking this thread with a few Flamin' truths?
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"wahahwahahdahdawhdahfh dieeee wahhawhadhada8hfa opens up dictionary oooh that word's perfect whahwahawwhah"Nice try, troll. But she was, after all, disrespecting one of my favorite shows without a reason.
I forgot your bad opinion was sanctified.
Good reason to throw a tantrum over a respected veteran/senior member among both AP and NPC crowds.
M-m-m-y show…she dissed th' Guy....no one fuckin' disses th' Guy
EDIT: Oh and also, talk like a normal fucking human being instead of this bizarro guy-with-autism warning signal shit.
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Family guy is an incredible boring series. I don't have more arguments. I can't sit there watch tons of episodes if the first one i watch are making me sleepy and force me to do something else besides sitting there and let it entertain me.
If i decide to watch TV i will watch arte, phoenix and 3sat. Mostly documentaries and good talk shows…
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@JERK:
I forgot your bad opinion was sanctified.
Good reason to throw a tantrum over a respected veteran/senior member among both AP and NPC crowds.
M-m-m-y show…she dissed th' Guy....no one fuckin' disses th' Guy
EDIT: Oh and also, talk like a normal fucking human being instead of this bizarro guy-with-autism warning signal shit.
Just tell me to shut up or something, jesus.Wow, I found your weak spot.
EDIT: Oh and also, talk like a normal fucking human being instead of this bizarro guy-with-autism warning signal shit.
Just tell me to shut up or something, jesus.Hey, come on. I ain't no Jesus Christ.
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Is it hard to move in that tiny 4 by 4 space of behaviour you've marked out in terror of being banned again?
You know who this is right? Man of 7 bans. Look at you, fear of death is all you define yourself by.
Come on Miniluffy.
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This is getting pretty good.
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@JERK:
Is it hard to move in that tiny 4 by 4 space of behaviour you've marked out in terror of being banned again?
You know who this is right? Man of 8 bans. Look at you, fear of death is all you define yourself by.
Come on Miniluffy.
_9L8EpoUn1Y&showinfo=0What are you talking about?
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Don't fear the reaper….
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I don't like you. I've never liked you. But I don't like seeing anyone like this. It's not right. It's inhuman. You're a prisoner of fear, terrified of the big mod in the sky ready to strike you down, you died and came back on their mercy and now instead of the brash bad poster who bit back we have "YES MASSA, NO MASSA, WE A GOOD POSTA YESSA" with furious head nodding. We have you snitching (stop snitchin') on people like some red baiter from the 50's. And mostly you're in pain, terrible terrified pain.
I am asking you.
To give no fuck.
You hold onto this account like it's all you have.
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You guys are silly.
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@JERK:
I don't like you. I've never liked you. But I don't like seeing anyone like this. It's not right. It's inhuman. You're a prisoner of fear, terrified of the big mod in the sky ready to strike you down, you died and came back on their mercy and now instead of the brash bad poster who bit back we have "YES MASSA, NO MASSA, WE A GOOD POSTA YESSA" with furious head nodding. We have you snitching (stop snitchin') on people like some red baiter from the 50's. And mostly you're in pain, terrible terrified pain.
I am asking you.
To give no fuck.
You hold onto this account like it's all you have.
But I know another way…I get that you like trying to analyse people and that's peachy, but what exactly are you asking of me? This I do not get.
But wow, don't make it seem like I care for this forum more than for life itself. It's just a valuable time waster and an occasional place for average discussions, in which I mostly just practise my English, instead of achieving something. Still, I do like this forum and all its members. But I do not overvalue it.
Oh please, GET OUT OF MY HEAAAD!!
We have you snitching (stop snitchin') on people like some red baiter from the 50's. And mostly you're in pain, terrible terrified pain.
I repeat, what are you talking about?
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I get that you like trying to analyse people and that's peachy, but what exactly are you asking of me? This I do not get.
But wow, don't make it seem like I care for this forum more than for life itself. It's just a valuable time waster and an occasional place for average discussions, in which I mostly just practise my English, instead of achieving something. Still, I do like this forum and all its members. But I do not overvalue it.
Oh please, GET OUT OF MY HEAAAD!!
I repeat, what are you talking about?
Never give them that inch MiniLuffy, it's all we have but it means so much.
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@JERK:
Never give them that inch MiniLuffy, it's all we have but it means so much.
Well, you spelled my nickname correctly, I'll give you that. Over and out.
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Well, you spelled my nickname correctly, I'll give you that. Over and out.
The 4 by 4 box with an eye hole rolled away, I had even handed him the key..
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You what else would make television better? If the execs got rid of those really annoying characters.
You know, the characters who keep saying the same stupid shit over and over again like people care about them. They act all immature and stuff, like they're going through the worst stages of puberty nonstop. You what else I hate about them? They pick fights with people far smarter and stronger than them, only to get their asses kicked. Then they start backtracking like cowards, going all "I didn't mean that!" and "Stop twisting my words!".
Really, those kind of guys suck.
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@JERK:
Is it hard to move in that tiny 4 by 4 space of behaviour you've marked out in terror of being banned again?
You know who this is right? Man of 7 bans. Look at you, fear of death is all you define yourself by.
Come on Miniluffy.
_9L8EpoUn1Y&showinfo=0I was like "ha, I know what's in that youtube video" and then it came and I was impressed
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I see a member named PedoBear is browsing through this thread, but I cannot view his profile. What gives?
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I see a member named PedoBear is browsing through this thread, but I cannot view his profile. What gives?
Because you touch yourself at night.
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One show I caught this morning with my nephew was the Ben 10 sequel, which was surprisingly good. I read that there's a third sequel titled Ultimate Alien as well, I'm surprised that the show evolved to Ben's later years, instead of the early suggestive years he had with his cousin, he even has an Asian girlfriend, every teen comic book boy's dream!
No, but seriously, the series was quite enjoyable, at the least the episodes I saw. Semi-related; the Greek dubbing was pretty impressive.
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@JERK:
Because you touch yourself at night.
I did not say "Why can't I view his profile?", I said "What gives?". Pas de touche.
One show I caught this morning with my nephew was the Ben 10 sequel, which was surprisingly good. I read that there's a third sequel titled Ultimate Alien as well, I'm surprised that the show evolved to Ben's later years, instead of the early suggestive years he had with his cousin, he even has an Asian girlfriend, every teen comic book boy's dream!
No, but seriously, the series was quite enjoyable, at the least the episodes I saw. Semi-related; the Greek dubbing was pretty impressive.
One thing I find really strange about this series is the way Max looks in certain episodes. If you recall, there are two "future themed" episodes in Ben 10, which depict the future of Ben and his family, and in one of them, Max looks exactly the same as usual (some minor changes maybe, I don't remember), while in the second one he is slim and has a robotic arm which extends. And in Alien Force, he looks completely different. Which is sort of acceptable, since the art has evolved since the beginning. But still, no excuse for Ben 10.
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@Cyan:
You what else would make television better? If the execs got rid of those really annoying characters.
You know, the characters who keep saying the same stupid shit over and over again like people care about them. They act all immature and stuff, like they're going through the worst stages of puberty nonstop. You what else I hate about them? They pick fights with people far smarter and stronger than them, only to get their asses kicked. Then they start backtracking like cowards, going all "I didn't mean that!" and "Stop twisting my words!".
Really, those kind of guys suck.
Got any specific people in mind?
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Got any specific people in mind?
This one show I watched…Think it was called Oolong Park or something...Had this little douchebag named Minilucky or something like that.