@Corson:
Glad I'm not part of their group. With as much as I sneeze, I'd end up with so many unwanted children…
Just where are you sneezing? :blink:
@Corson:
Glad I'm not part of their group. With as much as I sneeze, I'd end up with so many unwanted children…
Just where are you sneezing? :blink:
@Yonkou:
Edward Newgate is the 2nd best character ever. (Behind Moria of course)
I think I cried more reading this compared to reading Chapter 574 and 576 combined.
So this chapter just confirmed another war upcoming in the manga.
Holy mother hell ! What a chapter !
One Piece never dissapoints me.
The best is yet to come !
Tons of memorable and emotional moments.
The straw hats reunion
The world in chaos.
WG becoming even more extreme
The straw hats fighting the supernovas to determine who will be the next king of the new era.
The revolution revealed.
Luffy's past to be revealed.
A real fight of Luffy vs Smoker
Zoro vs Tashigi.
Tashigi's past to be revealed.
The fight against the admirals in another epic war between Marines and pirates. The progressive fall of the WG
Luffy vs Akainu
Zoro vs Kizaru
Sanji vs Aokiji
The fight against the Schichibukais
The fight against 2 of the remaining Yonkus.
Luffy reunites with Shanks and have one hell of a party
We discover Raftel.
The straw hats vs BB crew.
Zoro vs Mihawk
Luffy vs Blackbeard.
The will of the D revealed.
Every straw hats relaizing their dreams.
Holy shit…...I mean holy shit this chapter actually gave me chills. Whitebeard is beyond epic. If by the end of the manga Luffy is evne 1/100th of the man Whitebeard was it would be a great final
Here is to you pops. You truly were the greatest pirate of all time!
Their job is technically finished with both WB and Ace gone. Why would they continue helping? They'd just use a technicality like Boa and Kuma have before to say fuck pursuing or going after Teach.
All hell should break loose with everybody for themselves. Pirates, Marines, Garp, and possibly Sentoumaru and Moria fighting over WB&Ace's bodies, Teach's crew tearing up the place, other warlords doing what they want, Iva trying to escape with Luffy.
They've gone this far to keep their titles, so I don't see them just giving up now. Boa's a loose cannon, sure, and Dofla may not lift a finger either, but it should stop there. You mention Kuma, but he's a robot programmed to obey, so I'm not sure what you're on about with him.
At the very least, they're not just going to randomly switch sides and be enemies after all this (Boa could be an exception, but she has every reason to want to kick Blackbeard's ass).
@ultimateclima:
He has three members on his crew that were from Level 6, a secret level where the most notorious pirates are erased from existence. A level where Jimbei and Crocodile were also kept. One of the members is the biggest human/giant shown ever in One Piece.
There is Shiryuu, a sadist said to be on the same status though not necessarily the same level as Magellan.
And Blackbeard's original crew, albeit strength level currently unknown, aren't fodder weak. They should be able to handle themselves.
Finally Blackbeard, although injured, is a glutton for pain and has the powers to not only nullify any devil fruit but general gravitational powers.Also, while the Blackbeard pirates just started warming up, the Marines/Warlords just fought the Whitebeard pirates, so the majority of their forces were either taken out or are exhausted.
The Blackbeard pirates should be able to hold them off just fine. Maybe.
Quoting this post should be good enough for the entire group of them. I'm not saying that Blackbeard's crew is weak, far from it. I think Blackbeard could probably even beat Kizaru, but I don't really see him having much chance against Garp or Sengoku after seeing what Whitebeard did to him.
It's true he has several level 6 criminals on his side and they're very strong, but the Marines have more level 6 strength fighters than he does, right now. The crew is strong, but it seems like the entirety of the Marine HQ + Warlords should be enough to overwhelm them if they try to fight. Basically, I don't think the Blackbeard pirates are stronger than the Whitebeard pirates plus allies (with Whitebeard, Jinbei, Luffy, etc like they were at the beginning of the war).
I've always said that Blackbeard is a dumbass and I doubt he planned this out at all. I fully expect fate to be needed to save them from this, but I don't know how.
I really like Docs double sided scythe weapon. Kinda looks like a pendulum if I envision the rest of it.
This chapter really opens the gate to a lot of possibilities for the future.
First of all, the "Will of the D" is clearly something really important to the plot now. Second, the Marines will now have their hands full trying to recapture the level 6 prisoners. Makes me wonder if Magellan is okay or not.
The most important thing about this chapter, however, is the exact nature of "One Piece".
From the chapter, "One Piece" might be a weapon or knowledge left from the forbidden history that can be used to destroy the World Government. If it's a physical device of a sort, it makes you curious as to WHY Gol D. Roger didn't use One Piece. If it's a good device/weapon, I'm cerain Gol D. Roger would have protected it and kept it a secret.
That is why this chapter makes it fairly clear that "One Piece" is a piece of information. As suggested by Silver Reyleigh, One Piece might be the forbidden history and other knowledge of the old.
Given the way the flashback is set up, "One Piece" might be "Dream". The "Will of D" could be interpreted as "Will of Dream". The idea is that the journey toward your dream helps you grow as a person and find what you are truly looking for. This would make sense as to why at the end of his life, Whitebeard decided to declare the existence of "One Piece" as reality. Whitebeard has has achieved his dream, and he is taking this opportunity use "One Piece" to inspire his crew and others in the world to seek out this treasure, their dream.
Whitebeard had a glorious death!
I'm curious to see what is gonna happen to the Whitebeard Pirates. And if the crew is gonna chase Blackbeard in the New World.
Poor Blackbeard he has made many enemies…:getlost:
But also Amazing Blackbeard! He is exactly how bad guys should be!
I'm already looking forward to see how Luffy will kick his ass!
The way this arc ended(if it has ended with this chap) I don't see how Oda does any real notable time skip. At most it might be 2-3 weeks where he montages the events in between.
I'm hoping and figure it'll just be a day or two cuz I feel focusing on Luffy's reaction when he comes to and reuniting with the crew will happen immediately unless he's planning some other type of Luffy solo arc.
One more thing, after seeing this chapter how the Blackbeard Pirates put a whipping on Whitebeard, it's make me wonder what kind of whipping they put on Magellan:sad:…..poor guy must be cover in sh*t from getting it knock outta him! Bet Impel Down is in pure chaos, and no ones there to stop it....makes me wonder if Bon Clay is alright?! Would be funny if Bon Clay also assembled some sort of super crew, since everyone that's leaving Impel Down assembled some sort of super crews to depart with.
Whitebeard had a glorious death!
I'm curious to see what is gonna happen to the Whitebeard Pirates. And if the crew is gonna chase Blackbeard in the New World.
Poor Blackbeard he has made many enemies…:getlost:
But also Amazing Blackbeard! He is exactly how bad guys should be!I'm already looking forward to see how Luffy will kick his ass!
The day his ass gets pounded into oblivion should become an Arlong Park Holiday. We shall call it W-day in honor of Whitebeard.
They've gone this far to keep their titles, so I don't see them just giving up now. Boa's a loose cannon, sure, and Dofla may not lift a finger either, but it should stop there. You mention Kuma, but he's a robot programmed to obey, so I'm not sure what you're on about with him.
At the very least, they're not just going to randomly switch sides and be enemies after all this (Boa could be an exception, but she has every reason to want to kick Blackbeard's ass).
So the only potential Warlords that would fight are Kuma, Mihawk, and Moria.
I could see Mihawk being nonchalant like Doflamingo.
Moria would probably be too busy fangasming over Whitebeard's corpse.
@Urouge:
Quoting this post should be good enough for the entire group of them. I'm not saying that Blackbeard's crew is weak, far from it. I think Blackbeard could probably even beat Kizaru, but I don't really see him having much chance against Garp or Sengoku after seeing what Whitebeard did to him.
It's true he has several level 6 criminals on his side and they're very strong, but the Marines have more level 6 strength fighters than he does, right now. The crew is strong, but it seems like the entirety of the Marine HQ + Warlords should be enough to overwhelm them if they try to fight. Basically, I don't think the Blackbeard pirates are stronger than the Whitebeard pirates plus allies (with Whitebeard, Jinbei, Luffy, etc like they were at the beginning of the war).
I've always said that Blackbeard is a dumbass and I doubt he planned this out at all. I fully expect fate to be needed to save them from this, but I don't know how.
And like I said earlier, the only "fresh" Marine theoretically is Sengoku. Everybody else on the force has partaken in the war and are either injured or worn out, some more than others.
Akainu is pretty much out of commission.
The Blackbeard pirates warmed up this chapter.
I doubt this would go so smoothly, but Wolf could just step onto the battlefield and he could stomp the majority of the Marine forces into the ground.
Most importantly, I didn't point this out earlier, but Blackbeard does not have any reason to take on the entire Marine HQ. I could see his crew just running away and them being able to escape. They would definitely have a very little chance head on, but running away shouldn't be as difficult.
@Yonkou:
Edward Newgate is the 2nd best character ever. (Behind Moria of course)
So freaking epic. Would've killed Blackbeard if his crew didn't wtfjump him.I also really liked how he called out Blackbeard for not being a real "D" and the looks of young Newgate are the best.
Also really cool to see that Gol. D. Roger and Newgate were actually friends in the past as opposed to rivaling each other.Amazing chapter, Oda has been on a freaking amazing roll. (Like always)
i know huh
@ultimateclima:
So the only potential Warlords that would fight are Kuma, Mihawk, and Moria.
I could see Mihawk being nonchalant like Doflamingo.
Moria would probably be too busy fangasming over Whitebeard's corpse.
I'd imagine that Hancock probably has the desire to kick his face in. Anyway, 3-4 Warlords against a crew of 10 is nothing to scoff at.
And like I said earlier, the only "fresh" Marine theoretically is Sengoku. Everybody else on the force has partaken in the war and are either injured or worn out, some more than others.
Akainu is pretty much out of commission.
The Blackbeard pirates warmed up this chapter.I doubt this would go so smoothly, but Wolf could just step onto the battlefield and he could stomp the majority of the Marine forces into the ground.
Most importantly, I didn't point this out earlier, but Blackbeard does not have any reason to take on the entire Marine HQ. I could see his crew just running away and them being able to escape. They would definitely have a very little chance head on, but running away shouldn't be as difficult.
Garp has taken a single punch, and is thoroughly pissed off. I'm sure he'd love to take it out on Blackbeard. Add Sengoku and 2 admirals and we're already up to 7-8 very powerful people against a crew of 10, and that's before getting to the other VA's, pacifistas, Sentoumaru, Smoker, etc. to deal with the weakest 2-3. I don't want to downplay Blackbeard's crew at all, but they're up against a force that just showed its strength against the Whitebeard armada.
As for them being worn out, a little maybe, but let's not overdo it. Kizaru and Aokiji should still have plenty left in the tank (same with Mihawk, Hancock, and probably Kuma). Looking at the images of the VA's that have been shown, I haven't seen one of them that's even bleeding, yet (except those that went toe to toe with Whitebeard).
It's true that they could run, but Shiryuu certainly didn't make it sound like they wanted to.
Well with the MS translation it seems that Marco really will eb the new captain of the WBs.
And we may have a big war at the end. Really want to see how Marco and Co will appear once again in the story
Holy mother hell ! What a chapter !
The straw hats fighting the supernovas to determine who will be the next king of the new era.
The revolution revealed.
Luffy's past to be revealed.
A real fight of Luffy vs Smoker
Zoro vs Tashigi.Tashigi's past to be revealed.
The fight against the admirals in another epic war between Marines and pirates. The progressive fall of the WG
Luffy vs Akainu
Zoro vs Kizaru
Sanji vs AokijiThe fight against the Schichibukais
The fight against 2 of the remaining Yonkus.
Luffy reunites with Shanks and have one hell of a party
We discover Raftel.
The straw hats vs BB crew.Zoro vs Mihawk
Luffy vs Blackbeard.
The will of the D revealed.
Every straw hats relaizing their dreams.
yeeeee, i'm thinkin along the lines that the SH's ally with the rookies, Zoro beats mihawk and gaines his sword, and the admiral matchups?
Luffy v. Akainu (duh)
Sanji v. Kizaru (speed of light kicks)
Zoro v. Aokiji (ice sabre)
and of course the final battle (luffy v. blackbeard) or SH's vs. BB
the whole will of D thing i believe is connected to raftel :ninja:
another thing that rly intrested me in this chapter was the island where whitebeard and roger were drinking and talking. seems like a very peaceful island, maybe the SH's will run across it
OH YEAH ONE MORE THING, whitebeard just foreshadowed a HUGE fight that will engulf the world. so perhaps the battle that was foreshadowed during ace's capture (banaro island), wasn't the whitebeard war, but perhaps luffy's battle. o.O
I am pretty sure that Blackbear will run. Prehaps do one of those black hole attacks for a distraction and then escape on his ship or his Giant?Ship hybrid if the nickname is actually literal.
Cause it's not simply about numbers evne though between incredibly pissed off WB pirates and the Goverment they can crush BB like an ant with brute force alone. It's about powers as well. Aokiji alone can probably freeze the entire BB crew while Kizaru kills the shit out of them.. Even if one or two of the new guys can take an attack to some degree the previous ones are no match. I doubt Blackbear will risk almost certain death without any real goal not that Whitebeard is dead.
I'm really looking forward if Marco will rename the WBs
OH YEAH ONE MORE THING, whitebeard just foreshadowed a HUGE fight that will engulf the world. so perhaps the battle that was foreshadowed during ace's capture (banaro island), wasn't the whitebeard war, but perhaps luffy's battle. o.O
No.
This war is the huge incident that was foreshadowed. And now WB is forshadowing something even bigger. This war was just the beginning of the end for the WG.
I'm really looking forward if Marco will rename the WBs
Don't-Dodge/Defend/Retreat-Ever Pirates.
^ The "Pirates Who Don't Do Anything"?
I'm really looking forward if Marco will rename the WBs
I don't see why they'd rename the crew. They are & forever will be the WB Pirates.
Looks as though WB has essentially named Luffy as the true successor to Roger & Ace's will, just as Shanks has and so many others who knew Roger think the same of him. BB is a real villianous bastard, but in a way he's still more likeable than Akainu,.
@ultimateclima:
But what really matters is why Whitebeard never looked for a special lady friend. I wouldn't mind it if he put the reason why a man whose dream is to have a family lived a life of piracy in the SBS, it's just something I've been wondering.
I think WB meant family in a non-traditional sense. Such as what Marco was saying that they were all hated around the world for different reasons. I think this is why the notion of "Freedom" keeps getting brought up, that the pirates wanted to be free from society and all that follows with it. He instead gathered a group of people who yearned for freedom just like him, and had them as his family. And by free from society, I'm guessing that some pirates felt that the world they were living in was wrong and wanted to find a replacement for it by heading out to sea and forming crews. An example being the strict moral codes of the WB pirates. That by going out to sea they were looking for freedom, but not in the sense of living a fancy-free life, but rather to live by a set of rules they set out for themselves. In this case perhaps, WB's "family" was all of the pirates who accepted and lived by these values they all shared.
I'm really looking forward if Marco will rename the WBs
The Sons of Whitebeard.
(Instead of a time skip that some people are clamoring for, I wouldn't mind a perspective shift to the other Strawhats for a nice 'Strawhat Pirates Reunion Party' arc or something along those lines. But yeah, Luffy's going to be out of commission for a while and we need something to fill up that decent chunk of time. (And I wouldn't mind a quick couple 'power up' chapters before diving headfirst into the New World, but that's just me. We do need to decompress after the events of Pirate/WG War I.))
The Sons of Whitebeard.
(Instead of a time skip that some people are clamoring for, I wouldn't mind a perspective shift to the other Strawhats for a nice 'Strawhat Pirates Reunion Party' arc or something along those lines. But yeah, Luffy's going to be out of commission for a while and we need something to fill up that decent chunk of time. (And I wouldn't mind a quick couple 'power up' chapters before diving headfirst into the New World, but that's just me. We do need to decompress after the events of Pirate/WG War I.))
I'm still hoping for a psuedo-time skip via the hormone theory that was brought up, that only Luffy ages. And yeah, "decompress" is a really good word to explain how I feel. The recent chapters back to back has kept the tension really high, as a reader I'm somewhat exhausted.
The Sons of Whitebeard.
(Instead of a time skip that some people are clamoring for, I wouldn't mind a perspective shift to the other Strawhats for a nice 'Strawhat Pirates Reunion Party' arc or something along those lines. But yeah, Luffy's going to be out of commission for a while and we need something to fill up that decent chunk of time. (And I wouldn't mind a quick couple 'power up' chapters before diving headfirst into the New World, but that's just me. We do need to decompress after the events of Pirate/WG War I.))
I agree I would also like to see some power up chapters, but I would like the pseudo hormone time-skip as well
Wow, BB was so easily owned by WB, he was almost pissing in his pants ! :devil:
Makes you wonder what WB was really able to do when he was still in healthy, and what level Roger was back then :-o (And also, Garp's one)
best chapter in one piece history.
One Piece….......it exists!!!!
Just awesome.
WB just wanted family all the time, brilliantly done Oda
The panel, when WB says "there are very few peaople, who carry on the will of Roger and now as well the will Ace"
"And Yoou teach, you are not one of them" ---> panel zooms to luffy, awesome. my most favorite panel in one piece history =)
best chapter in one piece history.
One Piece….......it exists!!!!
Just awesome.
WB just wanted family all the time, brilliantly done Oda
The panel, when WB says "there are very few peaople, who carry on the will of Roger and now as well the will Ace"
"And Yoou teach, you are not one of them" ---> panel zooms to luffy, awesome. my most favorite panel in one piece history =)
Yeah that was truly awesome… No I'm even more sure that BB will be the final villian and we will have the SHs vs BBs
best chapter in one piece history.
One Piece….......it exists!!!!
Just awesome.
WB just wanted family all the time, brilliantly done Oda
The panel, when WB says "there are very few peaople, who carry on the will of Roger and now as well the will Ace"
"And Yoou teach, you are not one of them" ---> panel zooms to luffy, awesome. my most favorite panel in one piece history =)
I thought that was a nice touch as well.
MAN what an ch!!!!
its was so emotional to me that i decided to put on my avatar a whitebeard mustache until the end of this month
@Corson:
I thought that was a nice touch as well.
And now my prediction for BBs vs SHs
Luffy vs Blackbeard
Zoro vs Shiryuu
Sanji vs Abaro (Prince vs King)
Nami vs Devon
Usopp vs Van Auger
Franky vs Jesus
Chopper vs Doc Q
Brook vs Laffite (Both can use some sort of hypnose)
Robin vs Basco Shot
(Jinbei) vs San Juan (battle in the water… Colosal Battleship vs knight of the sea)
And now my prediction for BBs vs SHs
Luffy vs Blackbeard
Zoro vs Shiryuu
Sanji vs Abaro
Nami vs Devon
Usopp vs Van Auger
Franky vs Jesus
Chopper vs Doc Q
Brook vs Laffite (Both can use some sort of hypnose)
Robin vs Basco Shot
(Jinbei) vs San Juan (battle in the water… Colosal Battleship vs knight of the sea)
It might actually be Thousand Sunny vs San Juan because wouldn't that be more appropriate? Battle Ship vs Greatest Ship
yeeeee, i'm thinkin along the lines that the SH's ally with the rookies, Zoro beats mihawk and gaines his sword, and the admiral matchups?
Luffy v. Akainu (duh)
Sanji v. Kizaru (speed of light kicks)
Zoro v. Aokiji (ice sabre)and of course the final battle (luffy v. blackbeard) or SH's vs. BB
the whole will of D thing i believe is connected to raftel :ninja:
another thing that rly intrested me in this chapter was the island where whitebeard and roger were drinking and talking. seems like a very peaceful island, maybe the SH's will run across it
Luffy was saved by the son of Roger from Akainu.
Zoro was saved by the first crew mate of the PK.
There is a lot of symbolism.
Luffy has to settle the score with Akainu for Ace.
Zoro must surpass Raleigh.
I put Sanji vs Aokiji because diable jambe power up plus haki might cancel Aokiji's ice abilities.
It might actually be Thousand Sunny vs San Juan because wouldn't that be more appropriate? Battle Ship vs Greatest Ship
Well that is just my prediciton and I hope nobody starts to tell me that I forgot Stronger and his fight against one SH
Why???
Did I make a mistake?
Well, most of the others seem to have some reasoning behind them (even if I don't agree, I understand the reasoning). What possible reason is there to match Robin against a huge drunk?
Pretty good how WB died. And very interesting about the will of D. Jesus soo much awesomenesssssss.
Am I the only one who thinks that Sanji will be fighting Jesus Burgess???
Sanji fights with his feet, and by the looks of his strong upper build, Burgess seems like a boxer / wrestler type. I'd really like to see the fist vs kick fight
Well, most of the others seem to have some reasoning behind them (even if I don't agree, I understand the reasoning). What possible reason is there to match Robin against a huge drunk?
oh!!!!! Busco Shot vs Franky!!!!! The power of cola VS booze!!!!! maybe Franky will end up taking Busco's bottle and necome the Drunken Cyborg. hmmmm, I'm calling Sanji VS Jesus. so that leaves Robin VS Pizzaro
Am I the only one who thinks that Sanji will be fighting Jesus Burgess???
Sanji fights with his feet, and by the looks of his strong upper build, Burgess seems like a boxer / wrestler type. I'd really like to see the fist vs kick fight
Well I disagree. Maybe Burgess is some wrestler but Franky suits him better in my eyes with his dirty way of street boxing.
Both are hyperactive in somer sort as well and have huge arms. Dunno just my predicition. I'll still stick with Abaro… King vs Prince. Dunno why he seems pretty powerful and we know since Arlong Park that the monster trio is always fighting the strongest members. And I doubt that Burgess is stronger than this level 6 guys.
@ Urogue
Yeah Basco Shot vs Robin is still not my wish. But we know Luffy will get 2 members so BB needs one as well (No not stronger -.-) so maybe a second woman or someone else
And now my prediction for BBs vs SHs
Luffy vs Blackbeard
Zoro vs Shiryuu
Sanji vs Abaro (Prince vs King)
Nami vs Devon
Usopp vs Van Auger
Franky vs Jesus
Chopper vs Doc Q
Brook vs Laffite (Both can use some sort of hypnose)
Robin vs Basco Shot
(Jinbei) vs San Juan (battle in the water… Colosal Battleship vs knight of the sea)
and hancock vs doflamingo(he will join the bb pirates,no doubt)
oh!!!!! Busco Shot vs Franky!!!!! The power of cola VS booze!!!!! maybe Franky will end up taking Busco's bottle and necome the Drunken Cyborg. hmmmm, I'm calling Sanji VS Jesus. so that leaves Robin VS Pizzaro
Franky could work, but I sort of expect him to fight against San Juan Wolf (assuming he's a ship). It's strange that the only thing we know about Basco Shot is that he's a huge drunk, so I'm guessing he might somehow fight with alcohol. If that's the case, then he's the perfect opponent for Nami. She's supposed to be the best drinker on the crew, and her abilities are about ideal against a drunk. I could also see an argument for Sanji, or (as you said), Franky.
Against San Juan you'll need someone really tall. So it would be better to let Monsterchopper fight him. Whatever, Oda will get the job done. He always has.
BTW: Epicbeard is really the greatest pirate. He even has his own website :ninja: