Hmm… It's kinda hard for me to choose between War and Rescue and CP9. Both were/are awesome. But since War/Rescue has fewer votes...
Favorite Arc/Saga
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@Thousand:
Let's start with Nami first. The fan-service was only in the beginning and after that it was pure strategy and deception which was awesome.
Not the beginning. Half the fight was Kalifa either being naked, suggestively caressing Nami's breasts and legs with her bubbles, or one of them commenting on her own or the other's oh so beautiful body. I mean what the fuck.
Now on to Zoro and Sanji, lol. All their fights contain slashing and kicking etc. You're stating nothing by listing a bunch of generic moves and saying that's all they had. What matters is the strategies they employed which I don't know why you can't see because they were so blatant.
What about the way Sanji and Jyabura tested each other initially, the trickery employed by Jyabura and how Sanji took advantage of it, the way Sanji went around Jyabura's tekkai defenses, the way Jyabura intentionally unbalanced Sanji with slashing attacks to be able to get in a good solid attack and wrap it up with a finisher, the feeling that Sanji was really close to death yet pulling out a power up without feeling totally pulled out the ass at the last minute and not to mention the best part with the taking one hit to deliver the final blow.
As for Zoro, lol at calling that fight formulaic with all the crazy antics and how Kaku was taking full advantage of the versitility of his body with Zoro using some new interesting moves and the fight being a compilation of crazy and awesome badass. Yeah I could be as detailed as I was with Sanji's but the whole thing was so twisted and crazy. Let me just say this, square boxes are in no way formulaic.
Sorry bro but I loved all the Enies Lobby fights but I suppose this is an issue we have to agree to disagree on cause I doubt I'll be able to change your mind.
You can describe their slashes and kicks all you want, dude. The formulaic thing was the struggling->never previously foreshadowed ridiculous power up. And the similarity was that neither fights went beyond attacks and blocks, there was virtually no sense of location except maybe for the Sanji finale. I mean compare that to Franky's struggle for Cola and thrilling aerial battle against the silent owl guy. Or the awesomely written Mr. 1 fight with the collapsing stone pillars, building lifting, great lines, and the wonderfully thought out "breath of steel" finisher. That's how Oda pulls a power up correctly.
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East Blue - It has a wholesome nostalgic feel to it. I can sit and watch it and feel for the characters based on there pasts and its very fun filled. Its what pulled me into this series in the first place and keeps me here.
CP9 - I cried like a little girl when Ussop fought Luffy, I cried during Merrys funeral, I cried for Ms. Nico. I punched and kicked the air in joy during the fights and jumped for joy when the last enemy was finally dropped. I wanted to jump in the screen and strangle Spandam. I liked almost all of the characters, backup or otherwise and gladly welcomed Franky to the crew.
Epic Battles, the Romance of Adventure, danger, suspense, mystery, comedy, right amount o tittes. This arc was what One Piece is about. Also a fucking Elephant sword.
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Zoro vs. Kaku and Zoro vs. Mr. 1 come down to a matter of preference. In actuality neither was more "complex" than the other.
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@Vongola_Boss_XI:
Zoro vs. Kaku and Zoro vs. Mr. 1 come down to a matter of preference. In actuality neither was more "complex" than the other.
Fights are not about complexity lol. It's about creativity, variety, and sense of location.
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Fights are not about complexity lol. It's about creativity, variety, and sense of location.
CP9, er Enies Lobby is one of those arcs that a person can love if they are willing to indulge their most base desires for dbz superhuman fights. Does it have terrible pacing? Yeah. Do Sanji and Zoro's fights become repetitive with the same patterns of a sanji kick flurry and Zoro slash flurry followed by rankyaku spam? Yeah. But somehow the Luffy fights make up for it in mind and even though the Sanji and Zoro fights have too many back and forths of either of them attacking their opponent and their opponent either being knocked back then spamming different forms of rankyaku, those fights still managed to be entertainin. As for the powerups, well Luffys was just another use of his df and doesn't require special training for, and we know he had a motivation to learn new moves after he lost to Aokiji, Sanji's diable jambe also is basically him just rubbing his legs together super fast, no training required for that either. As for Zoro's asura, I'm sure there will be some information to come about this whole demon aspect he has, sooner or later.
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Creativity, variety, and sense of location - all very subjective.
Your opinion =/= fact.
It's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but it is not definite fact.
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Sky piea… one of the few arcs that are not really focused on single fights as much as others.... half of it its just war and war not like arabasta or CP9
A vs B
C vs D
E vs F
and most of the manga goes by it
it was a chaos that ended in luffy trying to reach his enemy...Also loved enel he was just awesome in everything he did... favorite villan second is croco
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Thriller Bark should be included in Whitebeard's War. But it was pretty long in comparison to other sub-arcs, except maybe water seven and enies lobby
then again, has the arcs as East Blue, Baroque Works, Skypiea, Water Seven, Thriller Bark, Saboady Archipilago, and then Impel Down…
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Fights are not about complexity lol. It's about creativity, variety, and sense of location.
And… a giraffe fight wasn't creative?
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Not the beginning. Half the fight was Kalifa either being naked, suggestively caressing Nami's breasts and legs with her bubbles, or one of them commenting on her own or the other's oh so beautiful body. I mean what the fuck.
I thought it was the blatant bubble massage in the beginning that got to you. Dude, if you're gonna rip on Nami's fight for having a little fan-service on the side here and there, well that pretty much applies to every fight she ever had. As is, for me it's not gonna ruin the awesome weather control techniques and how cool Nami was with her talk of probability and how she had everything under control.
You can describe their slashes and kicks all you want, dude. The formulaic thing was the struggling->never previously foreshadowed ridiculous power up. And the similarity was that neither fights went beyond attacks and blocks, there was virtually no sense of location except maybe for the Sanji finale. I mean compare that to Franky's struggle for Cola and thrilling aerial battle against the silent owl guy. Or the awesomely written Mr. 1 fight with the collapsing stone pillars, building lifting, great lines, and the wonderfully thought out "breath of steel" finisher. That's how Oda pulls a power up correctly.
I'm reviewing their strategies to show that the fights were beyond random slashing and kicking ala Dragon Ball. It's the awesome strategies that define One Piece fights. There wasn't really a need to foreshadow the power up because given Luffy's gears and by Nami's fight, you figure that the whole point of these fights was the characters powering up. I mean I expected that Zoro and Sanji were gonna come up with power ups by then too. Also they were both pretty much equal with their opponents until the very last minute so it's not like the were struggling through the whole thing. And fights don't need a good sense of location to be awesome. Chopper's didn't have one and you said it was one of the good fights:/ Also what do good lines have to do with location? And that "breath of steel" was honestly more pulled out the ass than Asura.
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My favorite part of one piece is the cp9 saga. Lots of strong enemies, tons of fighting, suspense. And thats where the monster trio gain strong abilities. Thats why I like the cp9 part.
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I like everything a lot, but Skypiea is my favorite because I like adventure. If I want to watch tons of drawn out boring fights I'd rather watch DBZ than watching CP9 again. Water 7 was absolutely amazing, though.
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thats a hard decision..
east blue got us all started and has arlong-park in it..
barouqe sure showed new borders to this series and croc was just amazing as the villain…but drumm was kinda not thaaat good in my eyes..
skypia...loved the backrounds and those whole adventure theme..could also stand out of the whole story of OP on his own but, it was a funride...
CP9 was a bit long in my eyes but what could i say about an arc who was that thrilling and had so much awesomeness in it..:)
ThrillerBArk..also more a funride but still amazing on his own...but sure not the best part in my eyes
Escape and WAR!..mhh sure has potential to become epic, but so far the WAR! lecks good A vs. B matches..how long do we have to wait???:blink:
so after all i think i choose...barouqe..that was the one who rly hyped me again for this series after arlongpark-arc
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for me this current arc, for just one reason:
This conversation with rayleigh:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/507/09/All the other arcs are epic, and difficult to choose from, but the above conversation just fits in the aim of One Piece
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The cp9 saga of course. So suspense, many heroes in action, and an all out war between StrawHats and the World Government
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If you are looking for A vs B matches, you can check Bleach"s shitty war…. The WB War is a f*cking war, there are no 1 on 1 matches in a REAL war. WB war is the way a real war should be.
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When Pell survived
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OH, Another reason CP9 Arc is the best:
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Skypiea had the best story and the best art, enough said. BW gets the second place by a pretty small margin and the not so close third place would go to East Blue.
TB was fun, CP9 was okay and the current arc blows.
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Pretty much what Sanigo said, except I think baroque works is better then the war. Though that may of course have changed when I can look on it as a whole.
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Kizaru arrives and beat those 4 supernova's with ease
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There is such thing?
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^What you mean?
16 whatyoumeans.
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! It's nice to have an antagonist like Teach.
As for favorite arc? it'd have to be Skypeia. No others have matched up in terms of overall quality in storytelling, scenery, characters, etc.
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@Vongola_Boss_XI:
Creativity, variety, and sense of location - all very subjective.
Your opinion =/= fact.
It's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but it is not definite fact.
Not as much as you think. Anyone who actually tries can tell most One Piece fights are incredibly thought of in regards to place when compared to the sloppy and basically terrible fights of a series like Kenshin.
@Thousand:
And… a giraffe fight wasn't creative?
The concept is wacky but the fight itself was just attack spamming.
@Thousand:
I thought it was the blatant bubble massage in the beginning that got to you.
Dude, if you're gonna rip on Nami's fight for having a little fan-service on the side here and there, well that pretty much applies to every fight she ever had. As is, for me it's not gonna ruin the awesome weather control techniques and how cool Nami was with her talk of probability and how she had everything under control.This fight had ten times as much fanservice as any other in the entire series. It was annoying and distracting as hell, no other fight was interrupted and fucked up by demeaning fanservice like this one was.
I'm reviewing their strategies to show that the fights were beyond random slashing and kicking ala Dragon Ball. It's the awesome strategies that define One Piece fights. There wasn't really a need to foreshadow the power up because given Luffy's gears and by Nami's fight, you figure that the whole point of these fights was the characters powering up. I mean I expected that Zoro and Sanji were gonna come up with power ups by then too. Also they were both pretty much equal with their opponents until the very last minute so it's not like the were struggling through the whole thing.
You're right it was not random slashing and kicking. It was random spamming of named tecniques and blocking thereof.
And fights don't need a good sense of location to be awesome.Chopper's didn't have one and you said it was one of the good fights:/
Yes they do lol, you don't know what you're talking about if you don't know that. Sense of location is extremely important for every single scene in a series like this, especially in something as shallow as fights. Chopper's fight was all over the place, beginning with the refrigerator stuff and ending with Chopper finally breaking out of the room into Franky's fighting territory and throwing his enemy to the other side of the entire locale. Zoro's fight just seemed like it took place on empty space the whole damn time, as did most of Sanji's.
Also what do good lines have to do with location?
Who said they did lol. What the hell.
And that "breath of steel" was honestly more pulled out the ass than Asura.
No it wasn't because all Zoro did was cut steel, something Oda could've gotten him to do in the first place without having to retcon jackshit. As opposed to being cornered with Zoro being faced off against someone who wiped the floor with him chapters earlier. Instead of LOL NINE ARMS he pulled a nice near-death flashback followed by an amazing finale, and the whole thing felt believable and satisfying.
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I take it by your attitude, you've stopped being civil. Fair enough then.
@Sanigo:The concept is wacky but the fight itself was just attack spamming.
So now you're changing your story to spamming?
This fight had ten times as much fan-service as any other in the entire series. It was annoying and distracting as hell, no other fight was interrupted and fucked up by demeaning fanservice like this one was.
You're over-exaggerating here. It had about as much fan-service as the rest of her fights. Actually after the bubble massage in the beginning, the total fan-service amounted to an odd comment here or there.
You're right it was not random slashing and kicking. It was random spamming of named tecniques and blocking thereof.
I guess you have. Are you ever gonna stick with a story? And no it wasn't.
Yes they do lol, you don't know what you're talking about if you don't know that. Sense of location is extremely important for every single scene in a series like this, especially in something as shallow as fights. Chopper's fight was all over the place, beginning with the refrigerator stuff and ending with Chopper finally breaking out of the room into Franky's fighting territory and throwing his enemy to the other side of the entire locale. Zoro's fight just seemed like it took place on empty space the whole damn time, as did most of Sanji's.
This actually shows me you have no idea what you're talking about. Most of Chopper's fight, pretty much the main bit of the fight, was in the kitchen. Just a little bit in the beginning, the flinging doesn't even count as the fight was over by then. Sanji's fight showed more consideration to location.
Also this post pretty much shows me your problem. See the way you called fights shallow? You just don't like fights so you can't appreciate the strategies utilized within them nor can you be excited by them. Personally I flip my shit when I think about Nami's cool probability strategy or Sanji's take a shigan to dish the final kick strategy or those crazy wacky antics that Kaku pulled. Oh and also Zoro and Kaku's fight went from a high level to a lower level and Kaku actually jumped to that higher level to retrieve his swords. I hope that satisfies your criterion of changing locations like Chopper's apparently did but strangely Sanji's didn't.
Oh and also Vongola's right, effective presentation and/or utilization of the environment isn't a deciding factor in fight construction unless that's all you're interested in.
Who said they did lol. What the hell.
You did, right here
You can describe their slashes and kicks all you want, dude. The formulaic thing was the struggling->never previously foreshadowed ridiculous power up. And the similarity was that neither fights went beyond attacks and blocks, there was virtually no sense of location except maybe for the Sanji finale. I mean compare that to Franky's struggle for Cola and thrilling aerial battle against the silent owl guy. Or the awesomely written Mr. 1 fight with the collapsing stone pillars, building lifting, great lines, and the wonderfully thought out "breath of steel" finisher. That's how Oda pulls a power up correctly
What do they have to do with location? Forgive me for being confused but you were the one who went out of track.
No it wasn't because all Zoro did was cut steel, something Oda could've gotten him to do in the first place without having to retcon jackshit. As opposed to being cornered with Zoro being faced off against someone who wiped the floor with him chapters earlier. Instead of LOL NINE ARMS he pulled a nice near-death flashback followed by an amazing finale, and the whole thing felt believable and satisfying.
Yeah it was. It was actually more formulaic then Asura. The breath of life stuff was a convenient move Zoro pulled out just as he was about to lose. Even if it was just cutting steel, it was something that let him beat his opponent easily and in one of those cliche one strikes too. A nice, little abstract, Vagabondish flashback doesn't change that. Now I'm not saying I didn't like it, but in my opinion, Asura was more creative in the general concept and implementation. Even if it was also another one strike, Zoro had to parry (and actually disintegrated) a powerful move foreshadowed chapters back. Also he pulled it out whilst he was in a position where he might or might not have been able to make a comeback so that's an extra plus. Also nine arms give him jack shit in extra strength, Mr. Oda himself stated they were an illusion.
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I voted for Skypiea. I never really understand why some people thought of Skypiea as one big filler. Everything I wanted to say has been said by other members here in AP. Second place would be Alabasta and although CP9 is great because of the fight but I like One Piece because of the adventure theme, not the fights. I already have JJBA if I want fight over adventure. Can't vote for the current saga since it hasn't finished yet. Shabaody is great but the later arc, Amazon Lily and Impel Down is really a huge let down for me.
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Why i have the feelling that all the threads on Arlong park are about arguing or whos right and whos not? The point to this thread is to say what 'saga' of One piece you loved, if possible with a post which explain it…
@-wahn-:
I voted for Skypiea.
You are the man.
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Skypiea for me. The setting, the survival game, the priests, Enel, Noland and Calgara's flashback…just awesome!
My rendition of the final episode…with more epic music! XD
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Too lazy to break up the post. Just match them.
@Thousand:I take it by your attitude, you've stopped being civil. Fair enough then.
So now you're changing your story to spamming?
You're over-exaggerating here. It had about as much fan-service as the rest of her fights. Actually after the bubble massage in the beginning, the total fan-service amounted to an odd comment here or there.
I guess you have. Are you ever gonna stick with a story? And no it wasn't.
This actually shows me you have no idea what you're talking about. Most of Chopper's fight, pretty much the main bit of the fight, was in the kitchen. Just a little bit in the beginning, the flinging doesn't even count as the fight was over by then. Sanji's fight showed more consideration to location.
Also this post pretty much shows me your problem. See the way you called fights shallow? You just don't like fights so you can't appreciate the strategies utilized within them nor can you be excited by them. Personally I flip my shit when I think about Nami's cool probability strategy or Sanji's take a shigan to dish the final kick strategy or those crazy wacky antics that Kaku pulled. Oh and also Zoro and Kaku's fight went from a high level to a lower level and Kaku actually jumped to that higher level to retrieve his swords. I hope that satisfies your criterion of changing locations like Chopper's apparently did but strangely Sanji's didn't.
Oh and also Vongola's right, effective presentation and/or utilization of the environment isn't a deciding factor in fight construction unless that's all you're interested in.
You did, right here
What do they have to do with location? Forgive me for being confused but you were the one who went out of track.Yeah it was. It was actually more formulaic then Asura. The breath of life stuff was a convenient move Zoro pulled out just as he was about to lose. Even if it was just cutting steel, it was something that let him beat his opponent easily and in one of those cliche one strikes too. A nice, little abstract, Vagabondish flashback doesn't change that. Now I'm not saying I didn't like it, but in my opinion, Asura was more creative in the general concept and implementation. Even if it was also another one strike, Zoro had to parry (and actually disintegrated) a powerful move foreshadowed chapters back. Also he pulled it out whilst he was in a position where he might or might not have been able to make a comeback so that's an extra plus. Also nine arms give him jack shit in extra strength, Mr. Oda himself stated they were an illusion.
I'm being civil, Batter. Point me to an insult. Also I haven't "changed my story", Zoro crying out "Hirameki Samon Kamakirin" doesn't make his slashes sandwiches.
I'm not overexaggerating with Nami's fight, you should just reread that shit. Otherwise point me a single scene in any Nami fight in which her opponent or she went out of their way to blatantly give out fanservice. I can recall without even checking at least three during the Nami vs Kalifa fight and I'm sure you do (1. Kalifa getting naked. 2. Kalifa touching Nami's breasts and body and 3. Both Kalifa AND Nami pointing out how sexy she is).
Okay, Chopper's fight showed no sense of location except when it did. Alright lol.
Yes, fights are an extremely shallow part of an already shallow comic book. Shallow doesn't mean bad, just lacking in substance. Vagabond which you mentioned has deeper fights, but One Piece doesn't. It's not a bad thing and doesn't mean I dislike it because of that. By Zoro's fight I mean the actual fight once they were in Jabra's room, not the extremely short skirmish they had like twenty chapters before that. And I've said every single time that I'm okay with how Sanji's fight ended (Not the random power up, but the final aerial hit), funny how you skipped that.
This Vongola guy never said that, but you're wrong anyway.
I never said lines and environment were related, I just mentioned lines to praise the excellent Mr. 1 fight and you called me out on it.
How is the perfectly sensible act of having Zoro cut steel through at least an entire page of proper explanation better than having him grow extra arms and heads. It doesn't matter if he gained strength, speed, or just the opportunity to fool his opponent and strike. Fact is it won him the fight and got Oda out of a corner he didn't get into during Zoro vs Mr. 1.
Uh this is way out of topic. Just have the last word. Also props to everyone who voted Skypiea.
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K, fine, this was giving a headache anyway.
And props to everyone who voted CP9!!!
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Honorable mention to East Blue. Its classic. Arlong Park 9.5/10. Loguetown 9/10. Baratie 9.5/10. Great flashbacks. Battles. Just awesome.
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Whoever voted for Skypea…....I pity you.
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Whoever voted for Skypea…....I pity you.
Nobody voted for "Skypea", whatever the hell that is.
Quite a few people, myself included voted for Skypiea though, since it's so incredibly good.
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Favourite: Thriller Bark
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Skypiea gets my vote :)
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wow…good job to the moderator who merge the old thread which had no poll..... its confuse now. That was my thread.
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Wow, in fact i'm upset… at least you could ask to me before to do this.. i put a lot of time to do this thread.
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My Tops are EastBlue (introducing zoro, mihawk and arlong park until grand line), Jaya (but I don't like Skypia), fist part Water 7 and Shabondy Archipelago.
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Heh, looks like the threads were merged.
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Yes, now the thread has a boring 'whats your favorite arc' as first post. No offense to the author. I checked this thread and i wanted to make a poll and make a presentation of all the 'saga' of One piece . I also put some pics to each saga that the menbers posted. It could be nice if the thread could be back as before. Thx
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which threads were merged? (I'm not all too constant a follower)
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"Most Favourite Arc" and "What's your favorite part of One Piece."
Nonetheless, I enjoyed Skypiea. Phooey on anyone who says it sucks. It's my third favorite. Once I get used to the Straw Hats being separated, I'll get more into the current arc.
1. CP9
2. War and Rescue
3. Skypiea/Baroque Works (Can't decide)
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@Vash:
which threads were merged? (I'm not all too constant a follower)
The old thread was merged into People call me E's thread starting with his post on page 4.
The poll didn't change however.
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CP9 arc is undoubtfully the best on my book. So full of emotions and goosebump factors, which is definitely my thing. The fights, though, were not the best. Sanji and Zoro had worse battle than the Arabasta ones(which I think are the best of both of them). Luffy was the one who had the best fight EVER here. Both gear 2nd and 3rd were smart power ups and his fights with Blueno and Lucci got the best coregraphies and adrenaline factors in the series. But the best thing of all was definitely Sogeking sniping from tower of justice, just best scene ever!!!
Meanwhile, Skypiea was probably the only arc which flashback was much more awesome and interesting than anything else in the arc. It has one or two of the best dialogues in the series and the interaction beetween Calgara and Norland was just simply incredible. Not to mention some important informations within for future plot.
Hence, my top favorites would be :
1. CP9 arc
2. Baroque Works arc
3. Skypiea arc
4. War and rescue arc
5. East blue arc
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umm, mine would be
1. CP9
2. Skypiea
3. War and Rescue
4. Baroque Works
5. Thriller Bark
6. East Blue -
None of those on the poll: Sabãody.
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The fact that the War arc wasnt animated yet is the reason why it is second in the poll. Come on Arlong Park !!!! Impel Down and Marine HQ are waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy more epic than CP9.
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@.access:
None of those on the poll: Sabãody.
Wouldn't that be part of Thriller Bark/SA/Fishman Island? O.o Since FI has been there destination since before TB? O.o