@Hinscher:
I clearly already covered this. Their commander positions 1-12 for all we know has no indication of their strength. Why would the number 2 position be vacant then? THey would just move around and have no 12 or vacant 12. Or were they just waiting around for a guy who is 3rd strongest of all whitebeard people to join. That is bullshit.
You know its possible for the numbers to be for us the readers, not for WB.
But to address your point anyway. We don't know how long the 2nd division captain was gone nor the circumstances. Doubtful the fleet travels in tandum absolutely everywhere they go so the fodder likely only have their Divison captains as bosses most of the time. Not just going to promote everybody up 1 seat(besides 1st division) forcing every single crewmember to readjust to a new boss. Also 2nd division was Teach's crew so he could have easily been acting as the defacto leader without making it official. Didn't wait for a man who was 3rd strongest, waiting for a man with the potential to stand amongst the best of the best as well as gain the respect of 2nd division. Which happened only after he proved himself against Doma.
As I said it just went how got trust and given their own command. Say each strawhat was a commander, Usopp would be ahead of Sanji because he was there first, does that mean Usopp is stronger.
First, this is a complete assumption. Second, Ace is a recent addition in the crew and yet got 2nd division captain and Vista is clearly much older than Marco, Joz, or Thatch as is Atmos. Geisha, Pocketman, and Apoo's daddy look a bit older too. While its possible WB recruited them later, the opposite can also be true. Basically I'm saying there is nothing backing up your theory that Ussop would get a higher position than Sanji if Luffy followed WB's line of thought. The lesser division captains could be remnants from the days of Roger.
And no i did not say no one else could beat mihawk, just saying their best swordsman would be best canidate for holding him off. Fighting a person with a sword is very tricky to do, as luffy showed this chapter. you can lose a limb. Sure maybe joz could handle him, maybe he coudlnt'. That one scene where he stopped his attack doesn't mean jozu > mihawk. But jozu is busy right now, and marco ordered vista to interviene. I imagine Marco knows teh peope poeple in his crew better than you do. So he sent the best canidate available or even possible at mihawk.
For all we know this is the only commander that could stop mihawk, because others just don't match up well with him
Bad wording if that is what you meant. Still wrong as the best is clearly Joz and Marco would likely be just as effective. Immortal flying Haki user who can react to lightspeed attacks seems best at almost anything.
I don't disagree with any of that except you put too much emphasis on him being a swordsman and match-ups like Mihawk would just punch buggy. He's was the best against Mihawk right now because he's available and has the necessary skill&power to do so. We were all expecting a swordsman to come in against Mihawk and now we got him. If 5th was the gun wielding Geisha I doubt marco would ignore them to look for the lesser ranked Vista just becaue he uses a sword.
I hate you guys assuming that commander 4 is stronger than 5-12, and 2 is stronger than 3+ ect. Their commander position means nothing relative to one another. Think of Bleach, each squad is kind of its own specialty. There is one whole squad that specializes manily in healing. Each commander of whitebeard prolly is unique to one another like the strawhats are, and in turn their followers also probably tend to follow them due to their like of that type of leadership/combat/ or whatever you want to see.
Where are you getting any of this from? What you're saying makes sense but is entirely baseless. As it is right now the pattern seems to be based on entirely on strength. Marco is clearly the 2nd strongest having both mantra&anti-defense Haki and launching Kizaru with a kick, Ace has the potential to surpass Joz or may already be tougher since Joz been unimpressive since tossing the Iceburg, and I doubt Vista can cut Diamond. Even if he could his speed, strength, and agility probably aren't Mihawks or his superiors level or he could and should have taken Rons out by himself.
and how are you saying Ace could hold off mihawk? is that again cause he is 2nd commander and thus stronger than vista (5th commander).
Ace has a giant flameshield move he used to keep WB at bay and as of right now may not be cuttable by Mihawk. Seriously telling me you don't think Ace could do the little bit Vista has done? Stopping one attack?
Until you guys get it in your head that commander position doesn't mean rank, i'm firmly believing that usopp is stronger than sanji, robin, franky, chopper, brook.
Based on your own fanfiction?