Roger vs. Nami
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There are too much SHs in this round. Time for one to say good bye.
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OMG, nami is catching up, how is it possible?
No One Piece without the pirate king folks!!
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I'm with roger on this one, we need a non strawhat to win this tournament.
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As much as I hate Straw Hat Syndrome, Nami is my favorite.
Gotta go with homegirl.
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And yet, jamjam, you voted for Zoro and Luffy, the ones most likely to win. HMMM
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Hell, I can go arc-by-arc here. I'm off to bed soon, so tomorrow (or later today, I should say) I'll get specific, but it only goes downhill for her.
By "between that point and the Kuma incident" I mean, the point where she woke up on Thriller Bark.
But I'll be interested to hear just why you think she's gone downhill because, up until Califa vs Nami/Thriller Bark (which has been addressed already), I think she's gone nothing but uphill. The BW fight was her entry into the game as a regular fighter. It was partly played for laughs, but so are Usopp's and I think it's fitting given the type of fighters they are (completely lacking in physical power), and the opponents they face.
That brings up another point: She has a damn cool fighting style. Bo staff + weather-based abilities? Hell yeah! We've got melee attacks and firepower in one.
If only Oda committed to giving women serious fights, she has potential to be pretty kickass on the battlefield. What she lacks in brute strength she makes up with tactical skill and strategy. This is also why I find her and Usopp's fights generally more interesting to watch.
Not only has she not done shit, but her personality has damn near fizzled out of existance. Except, of course, her gag crap. Which is great: reduce her to nothing but screeching at everyone. That'll make her more likeable…
No one has really done shit besides Zoro and Sanji (and obviously Luffy) recently either. Doesn't make the others any less likeable. And it certainly doesn't mean their personalities aren't intact.
I will convince you somehow Shmeckie.
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nami gets my vote ^-^
i am not voting for the king, just coz he is the king .. really -__-'' roger may have been awesome but that's just not enough to earn my vote.
even though i've to admit that nami has been used for fanservice more than anything else recently … i still love her! she is a great character and i find it sad that so many people call her a bitch. it's hard to be one of the only girls in a shonen manga! and apart from the fanservice oda provides us with .. he also gave her an awesome character. it's the fans who reduce her to boobs.
so, nami deserves to win this match!
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Nami is sexy, intelligent, a tough and very good fighter, humrous, simply a great character.
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Fun fact: did you know lightning can heat the air in its immediate vicinity to over three times the heat of the surface of the sun? Nami utilizes it in fights not with a Devil Fruit, but with the power of her brain in combination with a weapon she uses in ways even its creator didn't envision.
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Hail to the Pirate King!
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GO STORM!
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yay Roger's winning
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Ugh…I know Oda's kinda dropped the ball with Nami as of late (although her fights are less of a joke than they used to be, at least), but I think giving it to Roger over her would be entirely too cruel. Nami is an actual character, an active participant in the events of the plot, however iffy some of her characterization may be. Roger's admittedly badass, but we can't really call him a character in the narrative sense. He's a plot device, an instrument for suspense; we don't REALLY know anything about him except for the myopic, one-sided, or vague accounts of his exploits from secondary/tertiary sources. For all we know he dropkicked puppies for fun whenever he wasn't on-panel. To prop him up as a better CHARACTER than Nami is not only a bit too harsh, but not all that accurate in the technical sense, either.
Nami's shrillness is fine with me, I don't think she's shrill to the point of annoyance and it's very refreshing to see her sass overstimulated idiots (understand that I say that lovingly) like Luffy and Usopp back to reality when they get too hopped up on dreams and adventure. (I realize this is One Piece we're talking about here, but there has to be SOME kind of rational moderating element, or it loses all emotional impact!) The feigned helplessness during fights doesn't really work for me, though, it seems more like residual sexism from modern shonen institutions than it does a cute character quirk. I don't really think she needs to be able to fight to be competent even in a kids' fight comic, but it would be nice if Oda would get a bit more into her initial strength from earlier in the comic, which was her semi-criminal business sense. She was a bit more of a no-nonsense den mother early on in terms of how she managed the crew's assets and at least TRIED to rein in their stupider impulses, but she's kinda been mostly set dressing since Water 7; we don't really see her running around trying to keep the crew on task and in the financial black much anymore. As a result, you have the gag-heavy maniacs like Franky and Brook running rampant and they come to kind of dominate the discourse. She needs to start sassing more people than Luffy, or she'll end up a lot more ineffectual than before Oda let her fight.
But even with that said, I can't endorse Roger. That's just a little too dumb.
As for her weather power, there's a lot of potential there. Glad to see Nami's repping as a lightning mage; hopefully after her stint in the Hyperbolic Weather Chamber we'll get to see her start blasting away cannon fodder with lightning bolts without so much squealing.
Nami joined Luffy to steal from him, once that was done through and he saved her ass, she has been loyal to him…However joke or not she is still treating all the cash SH get like her own.
I realise its suppose to be a joke but to me thats just some fracked up chain of command. And when she is bossing around and alike its nothing different.The way I see it, Nami's bossiness + money-grubbing is the most important duty on the ship, hands-down. If she left anyone else in charge of the money, Luffy would probably get into it due to a weakened protective instinct. If she let Luffy anywhere near it, they'd die a gruesome death of starvation and scurvy out in the middle of the ocean after Luffy finished eating all the meat he bought with it. And of course between Zoro running off to fight anybody with a sword and getting lost, Chopper being a furry little six-year-old who can't swim, Usopp blundering into trouble, and Luffy charging off anytime he hears the word "adventure", Nami's essentially managing a superpowered kindergarten. She needs to be shrill with these people or they're all going to go nuts, go do their own thing, and get whomped by the first random Logia user they run into. Somebody needs to talk them down to at least some degree or they're going to go charging off a cliff. It's not easy keeping a misfit, easily distracted bunch like Luffy and pals on task, and I think when Oda actually bothers to write her as a moderating influence, her personality is well-suited to that unenviable task. (Would you REALLY want to live with Luffy, day and night? Keep him from eating everything in sight? Pulling him out of the sea every time he went for an involuntary swim because he dropped a kebab overboard? Be constantly awakened from your sleep every time he has a dream about punching out a monkey? Put up with his SMELL? This is a guy who wears the same outfit for hundreds of chapters and eats pretty much nothing but meat; he probably smells like the inside of your sock on a GOOD day! It's little wonder Nami is so exasperated with him!)
Nami's kinda like Fujiko with a conscience; she's certainly self-interested enough for several people, but she knows quite well where to draw the line. But thankfully she's still amoral enough to keep things interesting (much like Fujiko there as well). She needs some work, but I think it's too much the "easy way out" to say "well, Nami had her chance, let's give it to the Pirate King because he's never really had to validate himself as a character." He's just too perfect. I don't like it.
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Ugh…I know Oda's kinda dropped the ball with Nami as of late (although her fights are less of a joke than they used to be, at least), but I think giving it to Roger over her would be entirely too cruel. Nami is an actual character, an active participant in the events of the plot, however iffy some of her characterization may be. Roger's admittedly badass, but we can't really call him a character in the narrative sense. He's a plot device, an instrument for suspense; we don't REALLY know anything about him except for the myopic, one-sided, or vague accounts of his exploits from secondary/tertiary sources. For all we know he dropkicked puppies for fun whenever he wasn't on-panel. To prop him up as a better CHARACTER than Nami is not only a bit too harsh, but not all that accurate in the technical sense, either.
Nami's shrillness is fine with me, I don't think she's shrill to the point of annoyance and it's very refreshing to see her sass overstimulated idiots (understand that I say that lovingly) like Luffy and Usopp back to reality when they get too hopped up on dreams and adventure. (I realize this is One Piece we're talking about here, but there has to be SOME kind of rational moderating element, or it loses all emotional impact!) The feigned helplessness during fights doesn't really work for me, though, it seems more like residual sexism from modern shonen institutions than it does a cute character quirk. I don't really think she needs to be able to fight to be competent even in a kids' fight comic, but it would be nice if Oda would get a bit more into her initial strength from earlier in the comic, which was her semi-criminal business sense. She was a bit more of a no-nonsense den mother early on in terms of how she managed the crew's assets and at least TRIED to rein in their stupider impulses, but she's kinda been mostly set dressing since Water 7; we don't really see her running around trying to keep the crew on task and in the financial black much anymore. As a result, you have the gag-heavy maniacs like Franky and Brook running rampant and they come to kind of dominate the discourse. She needs to start sassing more people than Luffy, or she'll end up a lot more ineffectual than before Oda let her fight.
But even with that said, I can't endorse Roger. That's just a little too dumb.
As for her weather power, there's a lot of potential there. Glad to see Nami's repping as a lightning mage; hopefully after her stint in the Hyperbolic Weather Chamber we'll get to see her start blasting away cannon fodder with lightning bolts without so much squealing.
Roger chugged barrels of rum. Vote Roger.
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Vote for the king. Not for that bitch.
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I don't want to underestimate of Nami's fanboys XD
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@ yohohohoho .. i can only second everything you said.
i don't really understand how roger could be winning .. we know more about most of the other characters nominated for this tournament .. and roger is dead .. i remember someone saying "flashback characters have to go!" during tom-sans or zeffs match .. O__o yeah ..
you are voting a legend without really knowing what that person was like .. it's all just talk .. gossip. gosh i really like this legend gol d. roger but i'd never vote him over an actual character.
ah well, it's sad to see how people let themselfs be affected by a hype.
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I don't want to underestimate of Nami's fanboys XD
no either do I. Nami is totally great but she can't win this. Cause the pirate king got RESPECT. The GOL. D ROGER FTW!
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Come on, Arlong Park! Where'd the name of this place even come from? Don't forget your roots! -
Vote Blackstache.
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Gol D. Roger, even if he loses the tournament, he won't die…
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I guess I'm one of the few people who actually enjoys Nami keeping the idiots in line.
And damn if they don't DESERVE it. The dumb antics of the crew can be funny at times but let's face it, if they constasntly went on unchecked it would get unbearabley irritating. Nami is the steadfast straight man and as such it's her reactions to them that make the comedy work. And maybe I'm too black-hearted, but personally speaking it can be pretty damn satisfying. Luffy acts stupid and endangers lives? Hell YEAH Nami should smack him.
For those of us with lower levels of tolerance for idiocy she provides catharsis.
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Gol D. Roger, even if he loses the tournament, he won't die…
He will never die! He lives in our souls!
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@Taz:
I guess I'm one of the few people who actually enjoys Nami keeping the idiots in line.
^^ yeah ahaha i'm with you on this one ..
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i love her temper ^^''
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I just love Schmekie's reasoning to Nami's character.
"She gets pissed off when the guys act like idiots, she must be one of those stereotypical bitchy types, AMIRITE!!!"
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And yet, jamjam, you voted for Zoro and Luffy, the ones most likely to win. HMMM
I can't be entirely against a strawhat now can i? And luffy vs Robin was a strawhat battle. I didn't feel like voting against Zoro because he's too awsome too not vote for.
But i would certainly vote Buggy, Roger, WB or Enel if they were against a strawhat.
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WHUT ?!
Nami's losin' to a dead-stace-man ?
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Voted for the King
This, this is why i'm voting for Gold Roger
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Legends of the past should rest in peace. Their deeds was great, but new names already resound over the whole world. New legends about to be born. Vote for them!
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aw come on! vote nami!
she deserves it!
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The whole sequence is pretty awesome (even a Blackbeard cameo), but it's in the climactic second half where Nami plays the hero.
You don't need to be a powerhouse to do the impossible. VOTE NAMI
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Vote Roger!!!
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nami's not always "bitchy" (as many of you call her) .. ^-^ she's often seen with chopper, cuddling him and stuff.
she really has a good heart, how can so many of you not see that.
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I've got nothing against Nami, but I'd like to see Roger get just a bit further in the tournament.
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Come on Nami, let's see a bit more catching up.
Vote for the girl who managed to deflect the blows of GOD - and came out unscathed!
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I can honestly say, that as a man I have spent a lot more time thinking about Nami than Roger. That counts for something I guess.
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ARE YOU PEOPLE MAD?! NAMI IS LOOSING?! IF SHE DOESN'T WIN I'll DO SEPPUKU TO MYSELF GOD DAMMIT!!!!!
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I can honestly say, that as a man I have spent a lot more time thinking about Nami than Roger. That counts for something I guess.
Well, your name has the word "electric" in it; a vote for Nami is a vote for electricity/lightning!
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we have done this before
Make Borsalino go nuts..
Vote Roger:ninja:
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I'm gonna have to go with Rodger.
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There seems to be some kind of mistake here, it appears Nami is losing! :shocked:
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Roger needs more people campaigning for him! He is the man who started it all.
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Omg, nami is catching up, don't vote nami, vote Roger!!!
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She Bears Oda Childrean!
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Something is wrong.
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ARE YOU PEOPLE MAD?! NAMI IS LOOSING?! IF SHE DOESN'T WIN I'll DO SEPPUKU TO MYSELF GOD DAMMIT!!!!!
…...............You'll be doing it soon I suppose.
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we have done this before
NOW THIS IS A TOTALLY FUCKED UP DAY
@Psycho_Kenshin:
There seems to be some kind of mistake here, it appears Nami is losing! :shocked:
SHIT MAN IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GONNA DO SEPPUKU FOR REAL
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If you were really Sanji, the cook, you'd vote for Nami.
And Borsalino, don't do it! You've got to stay strong!