Meanwhile, somewhere on the Grande Line, Zoro is looking into Peronas eyes, Twilight style.
Perona for nakama!
Meanwhile, somewhere on the Grande Line, Zoro is looking into Peronas eyes, Twilight style.
Perona for nakama!
Wow, the amount of bullcrap you people accumulate here is quite astounding. I last checked this thread not 24 hours ago and it was only at page 70 there. Do you ever consider to stop feeding trolls or having aimless debates? :p
Wow, the amount of bullcrap you people accumulate here is quite astounding. I last checked this thread not 24 hours ago and it was only at page 70 there. Do you ever consider to stop feeding trolls or having aimless debates? :p
Yes, and this is definetly contributing to the thread, bravo.
Just as much you quoting it.
Nevermind me, just go on with the banter.
arlo … is there a chap this week or not? :X
Between this week and next week there is one chapter. When that chapter will come, nobody knows.
You can't just "Follow the Logic", the Logic chooses when you can follow it.
The Logic only accepts me as its follower when I'm talking about Shichibukais > Luffy, and that won't change unless someone says something as stupid as that. (Contrary to Shichibukais > Luffy, your arguments do actually make sense, and are actually possible)
I'm afraid that when arguing about this subject, I'm arguing as Jadosra,the Blackbeard fanboy and the Omega Shipwright, not as Jadosra, Messiah of the Logic…
What?
No, I'l tell you what's happening.
You and the Mihawk Fanboy (Forgot your name, sorry) along with Jozu, said that Shanks and Whitebeard haven't grew stronger.
Well, at first you guys said they were turning weaker, until the Logbook proved you wrong, then you just decided to maintain that they never evolved, and that they had the same strenght always.
I said since the beginning that Whitebeard continues getting stronger, never speaking of the pace.
Then you started saying that if that was true, it would be like Dragon Ball.
I said "You don't know what you are talking about"
Only then did you actually tell me that it would turn that way because Whitebeard would continue progressing and Luffy couldn't get stronger if everyone was progressing in the same way.
I then said I never said that they were progressing the same way, only that they weren't getting weaker or in a immobile stance.
The fact is that Whitebeard continues to evolve, he isn't like Rayleigh and Garp (Possibly like Kizaru too?), he's the strongest mofo in the world, and according to the LogBook, he didn't get weaker, and I doubt he would just be immobile not fighting for 19 years.
Fighting = Fighting Experience, the more Fighting Experience you have, the stronger you get.Of course, he is now a old man, not as quick to grow as before, specially because he doesn't find as many challenges as he did before, now that everyone is pretty much "HOLY SHIT, WHITEBEARD!!!"
But the fact is that he continues growing.
So stop saying I changed completely what I said, because I am defending the same point as before, only adding something you thought I was thinking, yet I wasn't.
[Whitebeard]Your only defense now is pretty much "tl;dr", so feel free to use it and run away to your dad, I don't have time for snot arguers like you, leave me alone.[/Whitebeard]
Haha I'm sure you forgot my username even though earlier today in the war thread you said it, so please enough of your bs, you've been proven wrong on multiple fronts and haven't refuted anything I or Sanigo have said all you've done is talk trash and pretend you've won an argument by sitting back and claiming how you're sooo logical. And there's only 1 argument going here, Jadosra blabbering that the Yonkou keep getting stronger vs, the people with common sense saying that there's nothing to support that and that if it were true they'd be at dbz level. Try again Mr. Logical tl;dr.
This thread is win, coz it makes me lol. It's a good time waster until the new spoilers come out.
:silly:
Seriously, all the fighting over one sword attack is ridiculous. o.o To assume that a) Mihawk isn't one of the greatest and most powerful pirates in the world or b) that probably one of the top ranking captains of the strongest pirate in the world could withstand one blow by Mihawk is silly. o.o They're BOTH extremely strong. I think that's the only point Oda was trying to make. Even if the captains are by tier making Marco the strongest…why does that make Jozu any less of a terrifying threat? He'd be third to who...Ace? The guy who could probably only have been brought down by Blackbeard's extremely cheap, extremely terrifying Devil Fruit? Blackbeard himself who has been hyped this entire time and is gaining a crew for the sole plot purpose, in my estimation, of facing the Straw Hats in some future epic battle as antagonists? This is all very, very silly.
The people who really matter in this fight...the admirals, the Shichibukai (including Croc and Jinbei) Whitebeard and his top division captains, and perhaps the vice admirals and maybe certain members of the captains allied to Whitebeard and other division commanders, are all almost at such a level that NO one attack will take them out. It can be most certainly said even if Mihawk is going to battle Jozu, it's not going to be a completely one-sided fight, nor should it be being who Jozu is and represents, and it's probably guaranteed to make Mihawk look that much more amazing in the end (assuming this is even his battle). Why is everyone so worried about protecting their favorite character? Oda has never forgotten fan-favorites and people he's built up over time and I'm sure by battle's end, most people will be satisfied with the powerful characters having had their time to shine, win or lose.
But in attempt to revive this thread, how about some speculation on where the match-ups are going to pan out. We have potential in Marco vs. Kizaru and Jozu vs. Mihawk.
But how about Doflamingo and Kuma? My personal guess is that Doflamingo will be gunning straight for Whitebeard...being representative of his 'new age of pirates', he hates everything that someone like Whitebeard represents.
Akainu and Aokiji are anyone's guess. I suspect they will play an intricate in fighting WB himself.
The Vice Admirals also add something interesting to the mix because it's really hard to gauge their power levels of someone between the level of like, X. Drake, and that of Akainu/Aokiji/Kizaru. How will they rank against the New World captains? I think just BEING a captain with the prestige of being allied to Whitebeard might mean there are some really powerful guys in this group.
Luffy is the most difficult to predict. I'm going to agree with the person who said Smoker. That would be a fun obstacle to overcome. I just can't see him being ready for a Vice Admiral yet, but in the alternative maybe he could fight a Rear Admiral. But who knows. Maybe Doberman and Luffy come to blows.
Just some thoughts. :D
I agree with the WB not getting any stronger, obviously Shanks did, and we don't know about the last two. What I was saying is that they don't have a ceiling, but WB undoubtedly stopped going up because of the lack of rivals and maybe age. Just like fucking pokemanz.
Now, topic switch to the Uniconr Zoan, I really like this Idea.
That's more dumb predictions material than chapter 553 discussion
@Fiasco.:
I agree with the WB not getting any stronger, obviously Shanks did, and we don't know about the last two. What I was saying is that they don't have a ceiling, but WB undoubtedly stopped going up because of the lack of rivals and maybe age. Just like fucking pokemanz.
Now, topic switch to the Uniconr Zoan, I really like this Idea.
2 things though, first how could anyone Shonen or not, not have a peak in which they just stay the same then eventually weaken and secondly back to my point, what shows or states that Shanks has gotten stronger in the last ten years?
I'd gladly change subjects but the unicorn thing… lol.
@Low-fi:
That's more dumb predictions material than chapter 553 discussion
Tell me, how is it a dumb prediction? Or are you to disfunctional?
2 things though, first how could anyone Shonen or not, not have a peak in which they just stay the same then eventually weaken and secondly back to my point, what shows or states that Shanks has gotten stronger in the last ten years?
I'd gladly change subjects but the unicorn thing… lol.
One Piece characters have very high ceilings if none at all because most powers are non-exclusive.
I say Shanks has grown in the last ten years simply because, alright I have no logic, just my opinion it seems.
@Fiasco.:
Tell me, how is it a dumb prediction? Or are you to dysfunctional?
One Piece characters have very high ceilings if none at all because most powers are non-exclusive.
I say Shanks has grown in the last ten years simply because, alright I have no logic, just my opinion it seems.
It's baseless, therefore dumb. Marco has more chance of being a Phoenix Zoan than Whitebeard's bisento being a Unicorn. Besides, one guy wielding two devil fruit powers is a bit much, even for Whitebeard. When Oda has characters use inanimate devil fruits, the characters themselves have usually been quite weak (See: Spandam)
@Fiasco.:
Tell me, how is it a dumb prediction? Or are you to disfunctional?
One Piece characters have very high ceilings if none at all because most powers are non-exclusive.
I say Shanks has grown in the last ten years simply because, alright I have no logic, just my opinion it seems.
And that was pretty much my point that as things are now it's just an opinion, Shanks sort of just looks stronger than back then but back in his 1st OP appearance who knows whether Oda had thought of the Yonkou or not but Shanks' haki was shown back then so again who knows?
@Low-fi:
It's baseless, therefore dumb. Marco has more chance of being a Phoenix Zoan than Whitebeard's bisento being a Unicorn. Besides, one guy wielding two devil fruit powers is a bit much, even for Whitebeard. When Oda has characters use inanimate devil fruits, the characters themselves have usually been quite weak (See: Spandam)
It happened twice, doesn't mean it's going to happen all the time. And for the strongest man in the world, nothing seems too much, something has to seperate him from all the others. I already explained how it paralled with Greek Mythology, thereforew not baseless, your opinion isn't fact, I learned taht a few posts ago.
@vlad:
is there a chapter this week, actually?
im not sure..looks it might be a weekensd chapter due to some festival(
some site shop say Obon time..and the shops in japan)
(i never heard of Obon so i wouldnt know what it is)
@Fiasco.:
It happened twice, doesn't mean it's going to happen all the time. And for the strongest man in the world, nothing seems too much, something has to seperate him from all the others. I already explained how it paralled with Greek Mythology, thereforew not baseless, your opinion isn't fact, I learned taht a few posts ago.
I thought you were joking with all those 'parallels" to Greek Mythology, so did a few other users. It's hard to tell whether you're taking the discussion seriously or not sometimes. And no-ones opinions are fact, especially when it comes to predicting Oda. Some are just sillier than others.
Yeah I do that on purpose, so when I'm wrong I can make a claim to sarcasm and when someone doesn't take me seriously I can ridicule them. But, in my opinion this isn't out of the realm of Oda, but it doesn't seem like there is anything to discuss on this topic. All we can do is wait for me to be proven right.
Yea I figured that your real theory is just that WB's bisento has a df which wouldn't surprise me, in fact I think Sengoku's hat and other things on him may have a df, I'm serious too, no joke.
I'm hoping in vain you can merge more than just zoan DFs with inanimate objects. If it happens, logia sword FTW.
You probably can but I'm not sure it'd do any good. A Logia wouldn't do anything because you need to actively control a Logia fruit. A Paramecia would only work if it was one like Luffy's that modified your body.
Alright. I have NOT been following your argument with this other guy, nor am I making a "block" with him, so don't group us together, I don't know who's right in that particular argument because I haven't read any of that. I disagreed with something you said and started this on my own, so I hope it's clear to you. I've always argued that Whitebeard's the same as twenty years ago, I've always said he's static in the power hierarchy as you can see in my first rebuttal to you, that being post 1387 in page 70 of the thread. So DON'T fuck around saying some logbook contradicts my stance when it does not. Your stance at first was clearly "Whitebeard and Shanks couldn't have stood idle for god-knows-how-many years and so they have become stronger. It's even possible that Whitebeard is beyond the Pirate King's level at this moment.", now it is "Yeah yeah, I said Whitebeard's gotten stronger, but just a little, it's insignificant really". Which is exactly what I've been saying. Whitebeard has NOT made any significant progress in the power hierarchy and thus is still the same as always, he's OBVIOUSLY a static character and there's absolutely no proof saying otherwise. You screwed up when you said it was possible for him to be beyond Roger's level, because that would signify a big step in the power hierarchy he has clearly not taken, and that's what your current stance reflects, but didn't when you were arguing with me yesterday. And yes, your posts are a chore to read because most of it is irrelevant shit like that "Fighting Experience" crap and your half-assed, unnecessary Whitebeard imitation. And when they're not long dragged-out nonsense, they're a short, weak argument followed by "You've already lost, don't even bother arguing with this stupid shit I just wrote."
First of all, I would like to say that you're absolutely mad at me for some reason, and I find it absolutely hilarious.
Second of all: What do you mean going up in the "Power hierarchy"?
I think you misnoted a little box in a certain chapter.
It was one which said "Whitebeard, the strongest man in the world"
Just sayin
Third (At the bolded part): I laugh at your "There's absolutely no proof saying otherwise"
Guess what? There's also absolutely no proof saying that way either.
OH SHI- :blink:
Also, I would like you to tell me where the obviousness of the situation is, cause I can't find it obvious myself.
I'm sure that your explanation will make sense and won't make me laugh like a madman, because its usual of you to do so :silly:
Haha I'm sure you forgot my username even though earlier today in the war thread you said it, so please enough of your bs, you've been proven wrong on multiple fronts and haven't refuted anything I or Sanigo have said all you've done is talk trash and pretend you've won an argument by sitting back and claiming how you're sooo logical. And there's only 1 argument going here, Jadosra blabbering that the Yonkou keep getting stronger vs, the people with common sense saying that there's nothing to support that and that if it were true they'd be at dbz level. Try again Mr. Logical tl;dr.
…
1: I just fucking copied your name from your post, its not that hard, its easy, select the name of the poster, Crlt + C and then Crlt + V.
See? Its pretty useful :O
2: I was proven wrong in multiple fonts? What the fuck is that supposed to mean? I would like you to quote me in someplace where I was "proved wrong" in which I didn't answer.
3: There is indeed nothing to support that logic, but there's also nothing supporting your logic. Why are you such a fucking hypocrite?
Unless you consider that your opinions magically come true, in which case, I'm extremely sorry to have the wrong term in my dictionary.
4 - I'l say it once, I'l say it again:
DBZ means that if A defeats B and C defeats A, then C > B without any doubt.
Either that, or it means that the power of everyone is in a numeric way, thus being easy to rank someone.
I see no reason why suddenly that logic would be implanted in One Piece because Whitebeard didn't get to his so called peak and started getting weaker or suddenly stopped evolving.
I also see no reason why suddenly glasses showing the power in numbers would appear if Whitebeard didn't get to his so called peak and started getting weaker or suddenly stopped evolving.
I hope you guys are trolling me or noticing how retarded you are being.
Also, this is fun
First of all, I would like to say that you're absolutely mad at me for some reason, and I find it absolutely hilarious.
Not really. Me not using smilies and sucking your dick during an argument doesn't mean I'm even slightly moved by your trolling attempts.
Second of all: What do you mean going up in the "Power hierarchy"?
I think you misnoted a little box in a certain chapter.
It was one which said "Whitebeard, the strongest man in the world"
More like "strongest man alive". Who's dead and stronger than Whitebeard?
Just sayin
Third (At the bolded part): I laugh at your "There's absolutely no proof saying otherwise"
Guess what? There's also absolutely no proof saying that way either.
What I find absolutely hilarious is that you made up all that "logic following" shit and then started posting completely baseless claims as facts. It's you who needed proof in the first place. Top tiers being static characters is a given in pretty much any shonen manga.
Also, I would like you to tell me where the obviousness of the situation is, cause I can't find it obvious myself.
You lack literary experience and common sense, that's why you don't see it and the only thing you're good for is arguing your rubbish in the abomination that is the warlord thread.
Not really. Me not using smilies and sucking your dick during an argument doesn't mean I'm even slightly moved by your trolling attempts.
God, you really are angry over arguing in the internet about a Japanese cartoon.
I don't know if I should laugh like a madman or feel sad for a moment.
More like "strongest man alive". Who's dead and stronger than Whitebeard?
Just sayin
Any proof of that?
Just sayin
What I find absolutely hilarious is that you made up all that "logic following" shit and then started posting completely baseless claims as facts. It's you who needed proof in the first place. Top tiers being static characters is a given in pretty much any shonen manga.
I said it once, I'l say it again:
You can't just "Follow the Logic", the Logic chooses when you can follow it.
The Logic only accepts me as its follower when I'm talking about Shichibukais > Luffy, and that won't change unless someone says something as stupid as that. (Contrary to Shichibukais > Luffy, your arguments do actually make sense, and are actually possible)
I'm afraid that when arguing about this subject, I'm arguing as Jadosra,the Blackbeard fanboy and the Omega Shipwright, not as Jadosra, Messiah of the Logic
You lack literary experience and common sense, that's why you don't see it and the only thing you're good for is arguing your rubbish in the abomination that is the warlord thread.
GOD
So, all this discussion came from your common sense and literary experience?
Well then, let me tell you something, you are pretty much basing yourself in no ground, I guarantee that no matter how literally experienced you are, you would not expect someone getting arrested and being saved by a bunch of travestis after being poisoned by a man who shits in a toilet for 16 hours.
You also wouldn't expect the boss of the travestis to be part of the Revolutionaries.
For all we know, Whitebeard was turned a man from Ivankok and is like the Wizard of Oz, being not powerful.
So stop being a fucking idiot with your literally experiences and just start basing yourself ON THE FUCKING MANGA WE'RE DISCUSSING.
Geez, I don't even wanna mock/troll you anymore, you have absolutely no proof of what you're saying, just as I don't.
Except I base myself on what I think while with you, its obvious
Yeah, I'm sure its obvious, dumbfuck.
To counter all this "stalling" crap and support Jadosra position - remember what Smoker said:
"On this sea… if you don't dash ahead, you're as good as dead".
God, you really are angry over arguing in the internet about a Japanese cartoon.
I don't know if I should laugh like a madman or feel sad for a moment.
For a glimpse at how someone genuinely angry sounds over the internet, check out the third half of your post.
Any proof of that?
Just sayin
Of what, of Roger being the strongest man alive before he died? Are you serious, Mr. Logic?
GOD
So, all this discussion came from your common sense and literary experience?Well then, let me tell you something, you are pretty much basing yourself in no ground, I guarantee that no matter how literally experienced you are, you would not expect someone getting arrested and being saved by a bunch of travestis after being poisoned by a man who shits in a toilet for 16 hours.
You also wouldn't expect the boss of the travestis to be part of the Revolutionaries.For all we know, Whitebeard was turned a man from Ivankok and is like the Wizard of Oz, being not powerful.
Hahahaha, dude. So now you're resorting to the "lol crazy shit happen in dis manga everithin can hapen even it shitting on its own genre all of a sudden aftar 550 chapters" argument. I'll keep replying just to amuse myself seeing how low can you go.
So stop being a fucking idiot with your literally experiences and just start basing yourself ON THE FUCKING MANGA WE'RE DISCUSSING.
Geez, I don't even wanna mock/troll you anymore, you have absolutely no proof of what you're saying, just as I don't.
Except I base myself on what I think while with you, its obvious
Yeah, I'm sure its obvious, dumbfuck.
I suggest you chill out.
sangio, and haxeyemihawk(although it seems he's stopped) need to stop talking to jadosra and vice versa now onto other discussions because this ones not even funny to read anymore
the whole unicorn thing would be very upsetting because unicorns and epicness (idk on what to call it) just don't mix it would be gay…. sorry
Jadorsa, why do you keep putting logic in bold? Is that your word for the day or something?
sangio, and haxeyemihawk(although it seems he's stopped) need to stop talking to jadosra and vice versa now onto other discussions because this ones not even funny to read anymore
I'm having plenty of fun seeing this guy post, so sorry, I'll keep replying until he stops.
I'm having plenty of fun seeing this guy post, so sorry, I'll keep replying until he stops.
i understand:sad:
@Low-fi:
Jadorsa, why do you keep putting logic in bold? Is that your word for the day or something?
yeah i got to agree that has to stop
@Low-fi:
Jadorsa, why do you keep putting logic in bold? Is that your word for the day or something?
When I say "logic", I say… well... logic...
When I say Logic, its the god of these forums and I'm its messiah.
Sanigo, the argument between us stopped pretty much as soon as you put your literary experiences on Oda's storytelling
Sanigo, the argument between us stopped pretty much as soon as you put your literary experiences on Oda's storytelling
Funny. I actually questioned YOUR literary experience when you couldn't figure out what genre what you're reading belongs to and follows religiously and get conclusions from that. I'm just an average reader, and even I'm not that hilariously stupid.
When I say Logic, its the god of these forums and I'm its messiah.
Annnnnd now it's time to stop taking you seriously. If mods are listening I implore them to lock this thread.
@Low-fi:
Annnnnd now it's time to stop taking you seriously. If mods are listening I implore them to lock this thread.
Lock this thread?
What the hell? You just don't lock Chapter threads, this what most will be seeing until the spoiler comes.
Also, stop being such a backseat mod, specially when it doesn't make sense
Sanigo, the argument between us stopped pretty much as soon as you put your literary experiences on Oda's storytelling
We REALLY need a new chapter .
We'll probably get spoilers around Friday.
Sanigo, the argument between us stopped pretty much as soon as you put your literary experiences on Oda's storytelling
i.e. As soon as you lost it. Shame, you were getting more amusing than ever.
Both of you take it to PM if you want to continue.
I'll be deleting any future posts between you two if I see anymore in this thread and if after that I see it again it willl be locked.
Both of you take it to PM if you want to continue.
I'll be deleting any future posts between you two if I see anymore in this thread and if after that I see it again it willl be locked.
Umm…
What happened here? And R U an admin?
=D
I think Jose will beat Mihawk. Mihawk has been built-up 2never lose a sword fight. But if Jose dosen't use a sword he should B fine. And I think that WB has gotten weaker due 2old age but Shanks has continued 2get stronger through tough and determined training...and the studying of his former teachers techniques (Rayliegh). Marco will B able 2fight and hold off Kizaru...He might not win but he won't lose either. The Vice admirals will fight against the New World Captains. And I can't say what else. I think will happen.
=D
Both of you take it to PM if you want to continue.
I'll be deleting any future posts between you two if I see anymore in this thread and if after that I see it again it willl be locked.
That's totally uncool and a bit hmmmm…
Let them be they're not like hurting anyone are they?
Nami, with wet hair, in a string bikini, eating icecream.
Just… wow, Oda. I do believe that's the most cheesecake-iest thing he's ever drawn.
I know it's late, but yeah.
Nami, with wet hair, in a string bikini, eating icecream.
Just… wow, Oda. I do believe that's the most cheesecake-iest thing he's ever drawn.
I know it's late, but yeah.
You forgot to mention her pose, total fanservice, I guess it was done to make up for no chapter the following week.
@GolD.:
I think Jose will beat Mihawk. Mihawk has been built-up 2never lose a sword fight. But if Jose dosen't use a sword he should B fine. And I think that WB has gotten weaker due 2old age but Shanks has continued 2get stronger through tough and determined training…and the studying of his former teachers techniques (Rayliegh). Marco will B able 2fight and hold off Kizaru...He might not win but he won't lose either. The Vice admirals will fight against the New World Captains. And I can't say what else. I think will happen.
=D
Let us pray this doesn't happen.
True, I never got the big deal if it happened…
Protip: Jozu is at least the fourth strongest man in Whitebeards crew, the strongest man in the world.
It wouldn't surprise me that much, and frankly, it wouldn't take away any respect for Mihawk, at least for me.
True, I never got the big deal if it happened…
Protip: Jozu is at least the fourth strongest man in Whitebeards crew, the strongest man in the world.
It wouldn't surprise me that much, and frankly, it wouldn't take away any respect for Mihawk, at least for me.
This would seriously damage Mihawk. Are you serious?
Mihawk will shit on Jozu, methinks.
He's the strongest swordsman, after all.
Mihawk will shit on Jozu, methinks.
He's the strongest swordsman, after all.
He's not the strongest!!! He's the greatest Swordsman in the world. We hav no clue who the strongest swordsman in the world is but I doubt its Mihawk. He dosen't seem 2B the Strongest. He may hav the world's strongest slash (or sword attack) I definately think their R swordsman out their stronger than him.
True, I never got the big deal if it happened…
Protip: Jozu is at least the fourth strongest man in Whitebeards crew, the strongest man in the world.
It wouldn't surprise me that much, and frankly, it wouldn't take away any respect for Mihawk, at least for me.
I agree. This would do nothing 2ruin his reputation and instead it would only serve 2increase Jose's. As Mihawk would still B the world's greatest swordsman, whether he wins or loses.
=D
And I wonder what happened 2WhiteBeard's original crew. Did they all die? And if so how? Cuz his current crew looks pretty young.
=D