@Charisma:
Which is why it's a DEM, will power has failed him the first two times and then a poisonous Luffy illogically wins…
I'm sorry, I didn't know that One Piece was an rpg game with will power and determination being determined skills that work depending on a roll of the dice. Seriously, you have no idea how stupid you sound.
@Charisma:
Nice excuses, but Crocodile pulling big attacks off at the end and not during the entire battle makes it a DEM. Crescent-Shaped Sand Dune would have ended Luffy..Enemy screw up..You are just using excuses.
He'd have dodged it-_- There's no excuses. When Crocodile switched from sand attacks to poison hook, he said himself that he's doing it because he finally recognized Luffy as a real enemy. So him just sticking to the poison hook made him a more dangerous opponent than had he stuck to the sand. But then Luffy broke it, so he had to start relying on his sand attacks again. There's no denying that Crocodile made some screw ups though, he underestimated Luffy too much to the point that he got his ass kicked when it was too late however that's because he underestimated his opponent because of his Shickibukai title. Even in the end, he called him a nobody. His damn faul, not deus ex machina.
@Charisma:
Never….
Lol, NEVAR, how dramtic, I see you're crumbling little by little. Yes, ever, Use your head, if Luffy loses, what would happen? He'd get carried away by Jimbei or whoever. it's not like he's gonna die. Whether he runs away no his own or gets carried away by someone, that counts as him running away from the fight FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE STORY.
@Charisma:
No your argument is because Luffy is the main character he should be involved and do everything no matter how ridiculous it is. That's stupid…
No, that's common sense. The main character is the focus of the series.
Also this quote stemmed from this.
@Charisma:
No offense but this sounds like a Luffy fan rant. You keep saying how Luffy is the main character as your basis of argument.
He is the main character. That is inarguable.
@Charisma:
Kizaru did and his subordinate was killing Luffy.
The subordinate who lacked any sort of prior build up except for a silhouette which didn't hint anything. Indeed, Luffy getting his ass kicked by him is good build-up for him beating him IN THE FUTURE as they now have a score to settle. Regardless, what happened in Saboady doesn't change the build up of the Impel Down arc.
@Charisma:
Luffy was crying in Sabondy [A smaller version of what is to come] of why he couldn't do a damn thang. I read the story.
I know, wasn't it sweet and heart-breaking:3 But that aside, so what if he lost. Him losing is a good thing because it keeps the story fresh and unpredictable. But you know he's going to win in the end when it counts which he has done MANY TIMES BEFORE. That's why you haven't read the story.
@Charisma:
Luffy hasn't beaten shit, Magellan beat his ass though…Pwned him bad..
Which was build-up to make Magellan look really strong and set up a rematch with Luffy winning it. You trying to act the build-up isn't there isn't going to make it magically vanish. Also, let's not exaggerate, he managed to hold his ground a bit and even managed to get in a couple of good hits. Which is more than when he fought against Crocodile (who he only lasted for about 3 minutes and couldn't hurt him) and Lucci (who he only managed to get in one hit before getting taken down in one hit and smashed across an island). Whom he still beat in the end.
@Charisma:
Maybe on your terms Luffy fanboy but not mine..
LOL, this is so much fun!!! OK, so according to you, nothing Luffy has ever done has impressed you? Not the beating the Shickibukai nor declaring the War on the World Government, nothing. Of course whether you're impressed or not is irrelevant given it is still an impressive feat in terms of the World Luffy lives in which is what matters to the story but it still is funny how far your argument is breaking down to the point of spouting diatribes and completely losing track of the argument.
@Charisma:
Wow, thanks for stating the obvious genius.
I find I need to state it seeing as you're totally missing the point of the concept. Him being the main character means whatever happens in the story, Luffy will be in the middle of it and having an effect on the story regardless of how strong or weak he is. This is basic writing skills. How he does it in a realistic way, especially in this case where he's a weak underdog going into a battle of behemoths, is what makes the entertainment.
@Charisma:
Nah I understand story, I like Luffy, I hate fanboys who try to pump up a character and make him something he's not.
What, you mean the main character who the story focuses on? Also it's funny you say that you like Luffy seeing as you called him crap. You've contradicted yourself and lost any thread of argument you once had. You're just trying to save face now which is funny.
@Charisma:
This war isn't even about Luffy, Oda utilizing the main stage more than Luffy would be logical and not surprising.
Neither was Arabasta, Enies Lobby, bla bla etc etc That's why he's the unpredictable factor. Seeing his effect on the main stage, on a world bigger than him where no one expected him to be there is the point of the story.
@Charisma:
This ain't the samething, quit using weak comparisons please. This war has people Waaay out of Luffy's weight class.
That's what people said about the Shickibukai, or Enies Lobby or Impel Down. This is EXACTLY the same thing except the stakes are higher, the opponents stronger and so is Luffy.
@Charisma:
The war is debatable…
No it isn't. There's been too much build-up for Luffy to not have an effect. The ENTIRE IMPEL DOWN ARC was build up for the war. There is no debating. Seriously, the fact that you can even consider that Luffy's just going to be snoozing away while the biggest war on the planet is going on is so moronic thta it almsot isn't funny. Almost.
@Charisma:
Ain't no mystery, Luffy is just damn weak, no comparison…He can't save no one when he can't save himself.
Him saving himself in a realistic way is what makes the entertainment because we KNOW (we not including you who can't tell a story for shit) he's gonna come out on top in the end.
@Charisma:
We live in the present and I know you don't have a magical ball…
No, what I do have is a brain that can tell basic story patterns and discern good writing skills. I draw my conclusion from the hints Mr. Oda throws in the story. Something you severely lack.
@Charisma:
No but I know he isn't the only character and not the reason why this war got started.
Which doesn't change the fact that he's the main character and has had a ton of build-up that he's gonna have an effect on the war. At this stage, you're just repeating yourself because you have no idea what point you're even trying to make.
@Charisma:
No he has learned nothing, recklessness has limits.
Wow, this is dumb. Not to mention heartless. But what can be expected from a trolling anti-main caster. These are clear plot devices to make us sympathize with Luffy and make us even happier when he wins in the end. Of course Mr. Oda can't account for idiots like you when he's devising his story.
@Charisma:
What's the number of that psychic hotline you own?
No agency, just a brain good at telling what's going to happen in the story from the hints given. Something you lack.
@Charisma:
Cause there is nothing to recognize.
This is exactly what I mean about not being able to recognize anything and why I claimed you haven't even read the story. For the record, skimming doesn't count as reading lol.