Whitbeard's top 3 commanders are like opposite admirals
Ace–-Aokiji
Marco---Kizaru
Jozu---Akainu (because diamonds come from volcanoes)
Diamonds come from carbon exposed to extreme temperatures and pressures, deep underground.
So… no.
Whitbeard's top 3 commanders are like opposite admirals
Ace–-Aokiji
Marco---Kizaru
Jozu---Akainu (because diamonds come from volcanoes)
Diamonds come from carbon exposed to extreme temperatures and pressures, deep underground.
So… no.
Why is there a BB thread and no f*cking Crocodile thread, who is 10 times more awesome than BB, and will kick WB's ass together, with Dofla and Daz.
Why is there a BB thread and no f*cking Crocodile thread, who is 10 times more awesome than BB, and will kick WB's ass together, with Dofla and Daz.
Head for the hills there's trolls on the loose
blackeard is more amazing than crocodile he will defeat crocodile with one punch if he wants to . zehahaha
This is a theory I thought about a few weeks ago and never mentioned.
I made a little photoshop to illustrate:
blackbeard is strong enogh to defeat ace who is a commander of whitebeard and commanders of whitebeard are about equal in strength to admirals so this thing says alot about blackbeard's power .
Where are we getting equal to Admiral stuff from? Marco can handle an Admiral and thats it. All Jozu did was take one attack. He's about on par with Jinbei like Ace. Maybe even weaker since Croc took his punch better than slightly suped up Moria took Jinbei's. Against an admiral he'd be frozen, encased in lava, or launched into the sea if not be shattered by a lightspeed kick.
Whitbeard's top 3 commanders are like opposite admirals
Ace–-Aokiji
Marco---Kizaru
Jozu---Akainu (because diamonds come from volcanoes)
How is a firebird opposite to a light elemental?
Diamonds and volcano both being earth related are their only similaries? Akainu is more like WB by this logic.
WB's commanders are more like two Ultimate shields, then Ace&himself are the ultimate offense. Well at least Ace will be when he learns Haki. Admirals casually cause about as much collateral damage as Ace at full strength can so I don't understand why people put Ace on their level.
Nothing hints to that theory besides the car itself. Think Oda may have just had a different design for BB long ago or different origin for the Scar. Wouldn't be surprised if buggy was supposed to be the original culprit. Now its not inconceivable when Shanks was pointing at the Scar he only meant one of the scratches not the other two. Like multiple attackers involved with Kenshin's X-shaped scar.
How do you know? It was 10 years ago when Shanks used to fight Mihawk so he was plenty strong already, and red hair most likely got weaker, as he lose an arm and stop dueling Mihawk.
Nope, Oda said losing an arm did not weaken him in any way.
Honestly, I wouldn't put it past Teach to have used a fork on Shanks.
I was thinking about a punch against Shanks sword, BB tear apart the sword making some fragments hurt Shanks face in claw form, it would be a really badass moment.
@Steven:
Honestly, I wouldn't put it past Teach to have used a fork on Shanks.
rotfl I didn't think about that, but knowing Blackbeard, it's actually plausible.
Is it just me or are other people wondering what the hell Blackbeard was doing in impel down when he was suppose to be at marine ford? Well at the momenet i think this question is very relevent as he may turn up at any given time and turn change the wars situation, for instance he could have gone and killed mallegan ( who went un defeted in impel down) and collected a large crew of prisioners to match the marines, plus he would be at full strength compared to everyone els
Iam supprised that Shanks did not aid whightbeard in the war as he seemed to care for ace so he may make a suppriseing entry (maybe we will see his crews stregths and lucky rox and ben bekmen fight) however it may be too early for luffy to reunite with shanks…
Dragon was assumed to enter with the revolutions army for a while untill we found out ace is not really luffys bro ( the D in theer names may implied some relations however) i have a sinking feeling dragon will show up, maybe save luffys life agian as in luffys current form i cannot see him succeecding ( unlees he some how pulls off gear 4??.........it was random in water 7 when he pulled off gear 2 and 3:wassat:....
first, Shanks cared for Ace and WB thats why he intercepted Kaidou.. Dragon and Blackbeard can be speculated to do anything as we want them to do
second, and most importantly, there are threads which you should post this
IN BEFORE MOVE/LOCK!
sorry man new to this place…......
Look at the other threads before making a new thread please… as if this hasn't been discussed 100x before.
Blackbeard went to ID to get Shiryuu and maybe others that are unknown at the moment.
Also, as already posted, Shanks is either fighting or just blocking Kaidou, another Yonkou, from interfering with what WB is doing.
As for Dragon showing up, I could speculate on that but I wouldn't mind if he did. If Luffy uses any powered up move it will probably be his Kings Disposition, of course not on purpose, so something critical would have to be happening.
Edit: Chill all. it'll get moved to the right place. No need to post to make someone feel bad. :P
Whoopsa, sorry I didn't know you were new to this place.
at Eustass Kidd
ah.. so youre new.. ok sorry for being rude… dont worry you can discuss those things at the appropriate threads.. welcome to apforums!
Before it gets moved or blocked, let me just say this. If Blackbeard goes to Marineford, he will be asking himself to get a bullseye on his forehead. I mean, all of Whitebeard's crew would simply give him a overkill and forget about the marines at least for some seconds. I say Teach is at Impel Down not only to recruit crewmates Hello, only Level 6 is still full of prisioners, but also to escape. He may want to become Pirate King, but it doesn't mean he himself has to kill Whitebeard for that. He can just let someone do the dirty work and proceed with his ambitions after the war is over.
Blackbeard went to ID to get Shiryuu and maybe others that are unknown at the moment.
Shiryuu was more of an accidental joining of his crew, I mean, BB first thought Shiryuu was Magellan :P
@Lana_Patrick:
Before it gets moved or blocked, let me just say this. If Blackbeard goes to Marineford, he will be asking himself to get a bullseye on his forehead. I mean, all of Whitebeard's crew would simply give him a overkill and forget about the marines at least for some seconds. I say Teach is at Impel Down not only to recruit crewmates Hello, only Level 6 is still full of prisioners, but also to escape. He may want to become Pirate King, but it doesn't mean he himself has to kill Whitebeard for that. He can just let someone do the dirty work and proceed with his ambitions after the war is over.
He said he was going to do something in 3 hours that will shake the world to its core. Hiding from WB and waiting out the war doesn't sound like that at all..
Coming back with a crew full of silver medalist either means super powerful or just extremely dangerous ,because some people are down there because of politics and knowing to much. Remember some people could be scientist and archaeologist . Matter of fact a crew full of smart and strong people imprisoned for no reason would create a pretty ruthless crew with nothing to lose since it either be death or get thrown back in impel down. So yeah if his crew is full of these people he might be able to actual do some damage to either the World Gov or Whitebeard since they probably hate both equally.
@IrishLuigi You didn't know he was knew, so you had to reply that way,huh?You, as an "old" member was that the appropriate way to answer? I just don't get it. Acting like this is just forcing people outa the forums. It's no wonder at the first page there are less than 5 threads created @ Demember. By the way I like your reason, troll.
Back to topic: I believe Dragon will join the field soon. I bet he already knows that Luffy is there fighting,trying to save Ace. 'Bout BB and Shanks, I think the people above me said it perfect.
@IrishLuigi You didn't know he was knew, so you had to reply that way,huh?You, as an "old" member was that the appropriate way to answer? I just don't get it. Acting like this is just forcing people outa the forums. It's no wonder at the first page there are less than 5 threads created @ Demember. By the way I like your reason, troll.
He could at least get the general gist of the forums a bit before creating an useless thread. If he runs away because of this, then I don't think he deserves to be here. Perhaps he could get used to the Hello Kitty forums before moving on to this forum.
And my original post was eligible for application to a regular poster here, yes.
don't worry man plenty of people make threads when there already is one, when i was new it took me a while to figure this place out
He could at least get the general gist of the forums a bit before creating an useless thread. If he runs away because of this, then I don't think he deserves to be here. Perhaps he could get used to the Hello Kitty forums before moving on to this forum.
And my original post was eligible for application to a regular poster here, yes.
Haha as if it is a privilege
I don't want wussies running this forum.
Whatever, I don't think you got my point. Just mind your manners, as not all the people here are kids/teenagers.Btw, even if he was a "regular poster" in b4 lock is enough(Which I don't really like either but whatever). "You don't know shit" isn't a way to go. Just my opinion.
I believe attacking Mariejoa will be a more logical thing to do for Blackbeard for the ff reasons:
-if he goes to war, both WB pirates/alliance and Marines will fight him
-Mariejoa is unguarded (at least to our knowledge, no admirals, no sengoku, no garp, although the gorosei could be fighters also)
-the last chapter of impel down was titled 'another incident yet to be told' so i think it will be another incident as big as this war and attacking mariejoa would be a similar caliber of incident and also a chance to make a name for himself
of course, theres always a possibility that it will be dragon who attacks marijoa instead, being the revolutionary head, but i see dragon joining the war because luffy's life is at risk in the war
shanks, no, shanks' next meet with luffy will be dramatic, hence oda did the kaidou vs shanks to avoid shanks in the story now
someone here said befor BB would not go to marineford yet becoause WB is there this is a very strong argument becouse it gives BB enough time to gather a strong crew, alos BB to me is the only pirate that ACTS like a real pirete, he is backing out now waiting for the perfect chance thats why he fled to impel down it was the best time becoause the marines were in a state of caous
PS plz do not flame me if iam not to some peoples expectations with my posts some people no every spec of details well i dont lol
Blackbeard and his crew will likey get killed coming to this battle right now No if and buts about it Sengoku ,Garp , Marco, Joze, and Vista will make it their purpose to kill them as quickly as possible not because of how dangerous they are is because they have caused to much shit to happen in such a small amount of time. Sengoku would probably kill him on principle of being a dangerous unpredictiable pirate. Garp because he started this problem. Marco and the rest of the whitebeard pirates , because of him commiting fratricide and capturing Ace.
So yeah if Blackbeard knows whats good for him he won't come anywhere near Marineford its a death sentence. He is better off building a crew around him , because he most definitely is not surviving this war he has 4 times the number of enemies who are just as or if not stronger than his whole crew .
I don't get though what BB could gain from attacking mariejoa. He has a plan in motion to rule the world and become PK. To be fair, we don't know what exactly he is doing at ID, or what he would want to do at mariejoa, but from what we know at this time, it doesn't make much sense.
On the other hand, the gates of justice into marineford were opened, by someone on the inside. (all communication to the control room was lost) This means that someone else is coming. It could be Dragon (there was some foreshadowing, mentionning a "strange wind" twice), but it could very well be Blackbeard. I still think his most logical next step would be to try and take out WB, so he can secure a yonkou spot for himself.
shanks, no, shanks' next meet with luffy will be dramatic, hence oda did the kaidou vs shanks to avoid shanks in the story now
Agreed, it was pretty obvious Kaidou wanting to stop WB was to keep Shanks occupied. So he won't show up.
kk i aggree with shanks not appering ( well after luffy leaves lol too early to be reunited with shanks yet) yer BB will not turn up remember ace took out his hole crew really easaly a while back, however i think BB is gonna get his crew DF powers to match that of stronger opponets, just a question if BB had a fight with luffys crew at jaya they would have been killed ye?? just asking seeing his crew was week compared to the WB pirates
BB's crew won't need to fight.. blackbeard is still a shichibukai so he can fight alongside the marines. He has Shiryuu now though, who was said to be equal in strength compared to Magellan.
I don't get though what BB could gain from attacking mariejoa.
by attacking Mariejoa (with a presumed to be bigger crew from Impel Down's level 6 prisoners) he can take out a big power that is the Gorosei.. the gorosei are the head of the whole world.. the world govt itself.. remember Sengoku is responsible for the marines' actions to them… we dont know yet if the gorosei are fighters or just political powers, but they are very important figures nonetheless.. by conquering mariejoa, BB can probably declare his coming out as a real power, not just a power comparable to rookies or shichibukai but to a yonkou and a very formidable candidate for the title of Pirate King. he obviously cant do this with his 5-man crew right now (6 including shiryuu).. thats why we assumed BB came to ID to recruit those level 5 and/or level 6 prisoners.
of course, if BB only wanted to show his power, he would try to attack an admiral or two, but he's after more than power, he already explicitly said he's going for one piece. so attacking mariejoa is a pretty big statement-maker.
I have the next theory. Teach believes that Roger put information about One Piece in his jail at level 6 and this is the reason why he has gone to Impel Down.
by attacking Mariejoa (with a presumed to be bigger crew from Impel Down's level 6 prisoners) he can take out a big power that is the Gorosei.. the gorosei are the head of the whole world.. the world govt itself.. remember Sengoku is responsible for the marines' actions to them… we dont know yet if the gorosei are fighters or just political powers, but they are very important figures nonetheless.. by conquering mariejoa, BB can probably declare his coming out as a real power, not just a power comparable to rookies or shichibukai but to a yonkou and a very formidable candidate for the title of Pirate King. he obviously cant do this with his 5-man crew right now (6 including shiryuu).. thats why we assumed BB came to ID to recruit those level 5 and/or level 6 prisoners.
of course, if BB only wanted to show his power, he would try to attack an admiral or two, but he's after more than power, he already explicitly said he's going for one piece. so attacking mariejoa is a pretty big statement-maker.
Don't forget that Teach already had his plan made before he confronted Ace. There was no indication yet at that time that there would be an all-out war of the WB pirates vs the marines. So if his plan was to destroy Mariejoa, pretty suicidal if the whole marine force wasn't engaged in the war. Also I assume that the tenryuubito and the gourousei have a bunch of super strong bodyguards to defend their homeland (think: Magellan or admiral type strength)
In the war however, if he can take out WB, he can essentially take over his spot as a yonkou, and still remain a shichibukai.
I have the next theory. Teach believes that Roger put information about One Piece in his jail at level 6 and this is the reason why he has gone to Impel Down.
I like that theory, that he is after information.. but how will that tie in with him doing something that will shake the world to its core, in 3 hours? (unless the information he is after is indeed where Roger hid the ancient weapon he had, or something else of great power that he can use instantly)
Black Beard did say his crew wasn't ready for Ace. So they probably aren't ready for many of the other commanders as well. But Teach himself could possibly hold his own against many of the enemies their simply because of his fruit. What ever the case I do expect him to show up to Marinford to show the world what he's got.
Who knows if Teach is looking for more Devil Fruit. They might all have one by now but I doubt it. We had a pleasant surprise about Lafitte after all.
I like how people who claimed in b4 lock are actively contributing to this thread.
i did say in before move/lock and look where it is now.. i dont have problems discussing things with people about OP.. this is a forum after all…
Don't forget that Teach already had his plan made before he confronted Ace. There was no indication yet at that time that there would be an all-out war of the WB pirates vs the marines. So if his plan was to destroy Mariejoa, pretty suicidal if the whole marine force wasn't engaged in the war. Also I assume that the tenryuubito and the gourousei have a bunch of super strong bodyguards to defend their homeland (think: Magellan or admiral type strength)
In the war however, if he can take out WB, he can essentially take over his spot as a yonkou, and still remain a shichibukai.I like that theory, that he is after information.. but how will that tie in with him doing something that will shake the world to its core, in 3 hours? (unless the information he is after is indeed where Roger hid the ancient weapon he had, or something else of great power that he can use instantly)
yeah. but i think he knew that there was going to be conflict really just by handling Ace to the govt knowing full well the morals of WB regarding his sons.
about that something or someone he's after in impel down, that we can only speculate till it shows in the manga. but most people are counting that he's there to get the level 6 prisoners as crewmates. thats really some upgrade to your crew if thats what really what he did accomplish
I have a feeling… That perhaps the Marines' deception of Squad will have a significant impact on Blackbeard's plan, be it positive or negative - I mean there's no way BB can know of this, correct? The Shichibukai seemed to have had no knowledge of the plan, as they displayed hints of surprise as well as the others. For example, mayhap BB will be displeased if WB goes down so soon, especially not by his own hand.
I have a feeling… That perhaps the Marines' deception of Squad will have a significant impact on Blackbeard's plan, be it positive or negative - I mean there's no way BB can know of this, correct? The Shichibukai seemed to have had no knowledge of the plan, as they displayed hints of surprise as well as the others. For example, mayhap BB will be displeased if WB goes down so soon, especially not by his own hand.
I'm not too sure I agree with this for two reasons.
1] I don't think Whitebeard will die before Blackbeard shows up or does something, although I'm not too certain on this.
2] I don't think Blackbeard cares too much about killing Whitebeard personally, he told Ace when they first confronted each other that Whitebeard's time was over. I think that BB realizes how WB's age and sickness have effected him and knows that Garp+Sengoku+Admirals would beat him, with or without Squardo's stabbing him. Even Marco commented that WB would have normally dodged or countered that stab, meaning his sickness and age were already playing a big part on him(most likely his sickness sense he commented that he didn't want to be pitied bringing his medicine). So if it wasn't Squardo's stab it probably would have just been something else.
Overall I just don't think BB's plan would be that susceptible to being effected through something like WBs death which I think he predicted.
all the prisoners in impel down would be his crew lol
all the prisoners in impel down would be his crew lol
thats actually possible.. since having a small crew like his crew now or luffy's crew, he wont be a yonkou-like in the way that whitebeard's influence is felt. of course, if youre having a fleet, its more scary from the outside looking in.
U no if u look at luffys crew and BBs crew they are the exact opposite of eachother good and evil lol i can pick that shiruu will vs zoro being second strongest in bbs crew atm
@Eustass Kidd
i was talking about the numbers of people in a crew. same as to the Whitebeard's, Don Krieg's and Shiki's kind of fleets. to have a strong crew is one thing, and to have a big crew is another. but blackbeard can have both if he has all the prisoners join him.
Fuck the fleets D:<
Don't even bring that question up here! It's an insult!
@Eustass Kidd
i was talking about the numbers of people in a crew. same as to the Whitebeard's, Don Krieg's and Shiki's kind of fleets. to have a strong crew is one thing, and to have a big crew is another. but blackbeard can have both if he has all the prisoners join him.
Ye but the point is that he will probably keep a crew the size of the strawhats, for final showdown purposes.
@Al!naJames:
Fuck the fleets D:<
Don't even bring that question up here! It's an insult!
Not necessarily. IF Teach at some point would be interested to revive an Ancient Weapon that it might be essential to have enough manpower to steer it.
True, it's speculation on my part, but it isn't that far off if you consider that Shiki said he had the manpower to steer an Ancient Weapon. Could also be the reason why Crocodile back then in Arabasta said what he was interested in is military power. Perhaps he needed them to steer Pluton once revived.
That's not to say that Teach would get a large crew. But many people who follow him would actually work with the entire following to the will of the strong thing he's got goin on.
Hm did Shiki say that, must've missed that. Are all ancient weapons supposed to be battleships? I know Franky had blueprints, but when they were first mentionned, I always assumed an ancient weapon was a big canon.
Well it's not so clear in this version. The Binktopia version on the other hand has him speaking of "my overwhelming military force". Strikes as making more sense that way but some clarification would be helpful to know for sure.
I think he means "steers" in a more metaphorical sense, as in he would have the strength to direct the massive force this would have on the world and not just let everything go to chaos.