Nice. I couldn't get past the front page at first, but after enabling Modify Headers when window/tab is closed, things started to run smoothly.
O.O Fansubs just died.
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its amazing how ignorant many americans are about situations in the world
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its amazing how ignorant many people are about situations in the world
I couldn't agree more.
That includes the basics of English grammar as well, I suppose?
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Not everyone on t he internet has great English grammar, like myself. Be nice :p.
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Not every American is dumb, either. Don't generalize…
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its amazing how ignorant many americans are about situations in the world
You can say that about any group of people in the world. Most people just don't care enough to learn more.
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I couldn't agree more.
That includes the basics of English grammar as well, I suppose?
oh please.
its amazing how every other effing country stereotypes america as fat lazy dumbasses based on how some talk on an internet forum.
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that being said, this really wouldn't effect fansubs that much if the stream isn't available everywhere, right? :wassat:
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works perfectly. thanks for the tip
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well I have no reason to stop and it would actually be bad if we did since there are no other group that does untranslated stuff like mine so everyone is happy
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hey when i open http://www.onepieceofficial.com/videos.aspx using modify headers i get this:[hide]
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That little argument you guys just had about stereotypes was the epitamy of my big massive argument, I was fighting for you guys not to be stereotyped, none of you were there … But it's over now so ..
Well, Personally C & D's don't really scare subbers that much anymore, I mean The people that are not actually involved in a big Subbing project, the more anonymous Subbers will probably take no notice of this. I wouldn't worry over it.
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well I have no reason to stop and it would actually be bad if we did since there are no other group that does untranslated stuff like mine so everyone is happy
but I think it wont be an issue for all the current fansub group. None of them are stableIf you live outside of the US there's nothing they can do, only in america some companies bother to sue or scare fansubs, in europe for example that never happens.
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I don't even know anymore how many times i heard "oh yeah, now this is really the end of fansubbing" along the years.
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Streaming professional subs makes about as much money as the bandwidth the streams themselves can handle. Once it gets to the point where you're waiting 15 minutes buffering 2 minutes of video, you give up on it and download fansubs. The business still makes their cut, but they make more the more they invest in mirror sites, hardware, techies, and overall infrastructure.
There's probably a line somewhere where they would be paying more to maintain their setup than they'd make on online ad-revenue…which is the line where fansubbers still have their place. You're not going to see download numbers like Dattebayo used to get, but the downloaders will still be there. Not counting the archivers and the like, who tend to be more hardcore fans willing to shell out for the disk space/blank dvds to archive 400+ episodes of one anime series.
One other thing...sites like YouTube and Hulu aren't making a whole lot after their costs. It's practically only a matter of time until they start charging the really big $$'s to professional businesses to abuse the crap out of their services with professional releases. Sure, someone else will pop up and do it for free, but eventually the market for online streaming will regulate itself, and the cost to host something that will get 100k hits per day or two is going to be roughly the same everywhere, just like web hosting and the like.
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Somehow, I think with the amount that Vegapunk is under right now,
I think they'll use this as an excuse to stop, I don't want them to, but I think they will.Sorry for a late response, but to the best of my knowledge, we're not stopping. We are still working hard.
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One other thing…sites like YouTube and Hulu aren't making a whole lot after their costs. It's practically only a matter of time until they start charging the really big $$'s to professional businesses to abuse the crap out of their services with professional releases. Sure, someone else will pop up and do it for free, but eventually the market for online streaming will regulate itself, and the cost to host something that will get 100k hits per day or two is going to be roughly the same everywhere, just like web hosting and the like.
It's hard to make a profit when one doesn't have ads.
The interesting thing about YouTube is the word of mouth can sometimes get people to watch funny ads. Like after the Superbowl.
Ads should never be taken down for copyright infringement on there…
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This whole thing is pretty cut and dry as far as I'm concerned. When I started watching One Piece, the only reasonable method was to watch fansubs. And even after Funi got the license it was pointless to stop watching the fansubs because they were so far behind. There was only one option to keep up with One Piece and that was fansubs.
But now there's an alternative and that makes the choice between a release that doesn't help Funimation and one that does an easy one.
For years I have justified the morality of watching fansubs with "there isn't a legal alternative". To continue watching them now would make me nothing but a hypocrite. Now is the time to put up or shut up.
I appreciate K-F, ACD, That group that had a good run during the beginning of Water 7, Vegapunk, Instantz, and Yibis for all they've done but their time has passed. In two weeks One Piece fansubs will no longer be necessary.
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This whole thing is pretty cut and dry as far as I'm concerned. When I started watching One Piece, the only reasonable method was to watch fansubs. And even after Funi got the license it was pointless to stop watching the fansubs because they were so far behind. There was only one option to keep up with One Piece and that was fansubs.
But now there's an alternative and that makes the choice between a release that doesn't help Funimation and one that does an easy one.
For years I have justified the morality of watching fansubs with "there isn't a legal alternative". To continue watching them now would make me nothing but a hypocrite. Now is the time to put up or shut up.
I appreciate K-F, ACD, That group that had a good run during the beginning of Water 7, Vegapunk, Instantz, and Yibis for all they've done but their time has passed. In two weeks One Piece fansubs will no longer be necessary.
I am with you on all of that this is how anime fans need to be imo
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This whole thing is pretty cut and dry as far as I'm concerned. When I started watching One Piece, the only reasonable method was to watch fansubs. And even after Funi got the license it was pointless to stop watching the fansubs because they were so far behind. There was only one option to keep up with One Piece and that was fansubs.
But now there's an alternative and that makes the choice between a release that doesn't help Funimation and one that does an easy one.
For years I have justified the morality of watching fansubs with "there isn't a legal alternative". To continue watching them now would make me nothing but a hypocrite. Now is the time to put up or shut up.
I appreciate K-F, ACD, That group that had a good run during the beginning of Water 7, Vegapunk, Instantz, and Yibis for all they've done but their time has passed. In two weeks One Piece fansubs will no longer be necessary.
Thirded. But if I didn't live in US/Canada, I'd still be in the "no legal alternative" position. Now, though, I'll do it legally.
Free + Legal is really a win/win for me. I don't feel bad for shelling out cash, or for being a "criminal" (YouTube takes itself way too seriously. XD) Excellent. Though I'm still going to buy the DVDs, this is until they get released. I used to only like to download, but lately I haven't wanted to waste the time when I usually only watch it once. So, hurrah Funi for doing what made sense to me a while back. =P
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This whole thing is pretty cut and dry as far as I'm concerned. When I started watching One Piece, the only reasonable method was to watch fansubs. And even after Funi got the license it was pointless to stop watching the fansubs because they were so far behind. There was only one option to keep up with One Piece and that was fansubs.
But now there's an alternative and that makes the choice between a release that doesn't help Funimation and one that does an easy one.
For years I have justified the morality of watching fansubs with "there isn't a legal alternative". To continue watching them now would make me nothing but a hypocrite. Now is the time to put up or shut up.
I appreciate K-F, ACD, That group that had a good run during the beginning of Water 7, Vegapunk, Instantz, and Yibis for all they've done but their time has passed. In two weeks One Piece fansubs will no longer be necessary.
Does Funimation have high quality episode downloads for every episode of the series (1-401) available on their website, and translated without stupid English renaming for everything the way a lot of people like it? No? Then they aren't a good substitute for fansubs. I don't want and never will want some shitty little low quality stream with subbing I dislike for only a select number of episodes when there has long since been a better alternative. When Funimation is ready to start taking anime distribution seriously and keep up with the times and provide a good translation, then I'll support them. Not before.
Pretty clear cut and simple thing to understand to me.
Also I see nothing morally wrong with not buying the DVDs since they have nothing I want. I hate the dub, and I hate the way Funi translates the Japanese version. The only thing on their DVDs that I would ever concievably want would be the higher quality episode raws with the Japanese audio, and then only for ripping and use for fansubs.
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Chargon hit it on the nail and I do agree with it. Funimation's translation is pretty much 95% accruate to the scripts of the all time. I don't blame fo the people not in the U.S, and Canada to continue watching the fansubs. But we people in the U.S and Canada should watch the legit release from Funimation. Since Thursday, I watch Funimation verison of 391, 5 times to show my support for them.
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@Skull:
Does Funimation have high quality episode downloads for every episode of the series (1-401) available on their website, and translated without stupid English renaming for everything the way a lot of people like it? No? Then they aren't a good substitute for fansubs. I don't want and never will want some shitty little low quality stream with subbing I dislike for only a select number of episodes when there has long since been a better alternative. When Funimation is ready to start taking anime distribution seriously and keep up with the times and provide a good translation, then I'll support them. Not before.
Pretty clear cut and simple thing to understand to me.
Also I see nothing morally wrong with not buying the DVDs since they have nothing I want. I hate the dub, and I hate the way Funi translates the Japanese version. The only thing on their DVDs that I would ever concievably want would be the higher quality episode raws with the Japanese audio, and then only for ripping and use for fansubs.
This guy is hopeless.
This is the kind of anime fan that we don't need. Too bad there's way to many of 'em…
You know, if that's how it is, then ROT with your precious fansubs. We, however, will be moving on.
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@Skull:
Excuses for continuing to pirate. Delusion that everybody thinks like he does. Bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch. Moronic statement.
More weak justification. Whine whine whine.
The region argument isn't valid. There have already been numerous ways to get past the region blockers posted on this very board.
The collection argument isn't valid either. Fansubs are supposed to be an alternative to WATCHING the show, not collecting it. That's what DVDs are for.
Interestingly enouh, Skull Kid's "I hate Funi" argument, while childish and petty, is actually the only valid one. If you have your head so far up your ass that you'd rather hurt the show than watch subtitles that say Gum Gum then that's your prerogative.
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This guy is hopeless.
This is the kind of anime fan that we don't need. Too bad there's way to many of 'em…
Seriously. And they'll still all watch the stream anyways, the second it goes up lmao.
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Yup.
Mindless drones, they are.
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Yeah, he is very hopeless. And its kinda sad that some people don't want to support the official release.
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Very sad indeed.
Anyway, hopefully this means that One Piece will finally get the respect it deserves, manga being sped up, merchandise, yep all up hill from there.
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@Skull:
Excuses for continuing to pirate. Delusion that everybody thinks like he does. Bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch. Moronic statement.
More weak justification. Whine whine whine.
The region argument isn't valid. There have already been numerous ways to get past the region blockers posted on this very board.
The collection argument isn't valid either. Fansubs are supposed to be an alternative to WATCHING the show, not collecting it. That's what DVDs are for.
Interestingly enouh, Skull Kid's "I hate Funi" argument, while childish and petty, is actually the only valid one. If you have your head so far up your ass that you'd rather hurt the show than watch subtitles that say Gum Gum then that's your prerogative.
I know we have our differences, but I love you Charagon! XD
One thing I've never really Gotten about that argument too is, you can HEAR Luffy is saying "Gomu Gomu no". you KNOW that's what he's saying. Why does what the subs say matter?
I mean, when I rant about Nakama and what have you (PLEASE don't start a debate with me, I'm just saying something real quick) at least I'm thinking of the people who would get confused about what Nakama means. (I DONT CARE IF I'M RIGHT OR NOT, don't start a debate, I'm just saying that's where my logic is)
But translating everything (in these professional subs, don't start a debate with me) is Ok, because you can HEAR what the people are saying. You can HEAR he said Gomu Gomu no, you can HEAR that they said "Nakama". So what's the problem? -
Make no mistake. In a perfect world Funi would be putting in Gomu Gomu no in their subs. It IS annoying to hear one thing and read another, especially since Gum Gum is not a translation, but rather an adaptation. It's a good adaptation, but an adaptation nonetheless. A translation would read Rubber Rubber.
But ultimately that's apparently not even up to Funi. They are bound by Toei's moronic rules.
This debate was all well in good when it just regarded fansubs. Fansubs don't have rules to follow and there was no difference in dropping one group for another.
But Funi entering the market is a game changer. Now when we watch One Piece, we can do it in a way that provides revenue for Funi. More page views means more ad money and more legitimately recorded exposure. More exposure means Funi can go to Toei and say "One Piece is doing very well over here, you've got a winner." This makes Toei feel better about investing money into making One Piece and giving the license to Funi. This means One Piece is more likely to actually get 400 more episodes made so that the story can be complete and Funi is more likely to get those episodes over here on DVD.
As for the other thing that we're not debating…
The purpose of subtitles is to convey dialogue that the viewer does not understand into a language that they do. Because attack names are repeated so frequently, the subtitles quickly become redundant.
The annoyance comes from having to divide attention between what you hear and what you see. When a character is having a long monologue in a language you don't understand, it all sounds like jibberish. The words don't trigger a response from the brain. This leaves you free to focus on the subtitles.
But when you know what's being said, then the words do trigger a response from the brain. If those words match with what's being shown in the subtitles then there's no problem, but when those words conflict with the words that you're reading it is slightly jarring.
As somebody who speaks Japanese, Rin, you probably don't even notice this. You don't hear "Blah blah blah nani blah blah, baka. Onee-san blah blah blah blah blah blah nakama blah blah blah."
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Same problem as Thunderwonder, Im from the UK.
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Sweet this works, thanx alot.
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@ Southe i solved my problem. Read the post by Cropolite
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This is off topic, but does this work for other sites like Hulu and CBS? I would love to watch some original Star Trek on CBS, but they block Canadians. Funi is the first website to stream to Canada that I've found.
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Remember it only works when I have the Modify Headers Tab open while surfing www.onepiceofficial.com
Also this is what it should look like:
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so this basically means that we won't need subbing groups anymore?
And the same may be true for the manga soon too, this is pretty big news tbh…
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The collection argument isn't valid either. Fansubs are supposed to be an alternative to WATCHING the show, not collecting it. That's what DVDs are for.
Uh, no. You can hate me and my views if you want (but I really don't see a good reason as to why), but fansubs are both for viewing and archiving purposes. People have been downloading fansubs of shows they could see on tv or buy DVDs of for years, and that's not going to change. For me, if I can't collect the show in the form of actual episode files, there's no point. The whole reason I watch fansubs is to collect them and store them and feel like I have episodes of a show I like that I can watch at any time. Funis stream is fine and all, but I think fansubs should continue for the people who want them and both should be available.
Seriously. And they'll still all watch the stream anyways, the second it goes up lmao.
I guarantee you I won't. Especially if there is any fansub alternative. I have not seen a single official stream of Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood and continue to just get the Eclipse release, as it's an actual file you can store and better in almost every possible way. Like I said, support Funi and their streams if you want. Just don't bullshit and pretend that this is a legitimate replacement for fansubs when it's obviously not.
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I couldn't agree more.
That includes the basics of English grammar as well, I suppose?
My grammar fails to deliver my point?
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@Skull:
Uh, no. You can hate me and my views if you want (but I really don't see a good reason as to why), but fansubs are both for viewing and archiving purposes. People have been downloading fansubs of shows they could see on tv or buy DVDs of for years, and that's not going to change. For me, if I can't collect the show in the form of actual episode files, there's no point. The whole reason I watch fansubs is to collect them and store them and feel like I have episodes of a show I like that I can watch at any time. Funis stream is fine and all, but I think fansubs should continue for the people who want them and both should be available.
I guess that also point falls up the "Valid as long as you don't mind having your head wedged firmly up your ass" clause of my original post.
If you feel it's more important to 'catch em all' than to actually support the show, that's your choice. That pretty much makes you a worthless parasite selfishly feeding off of the work of others, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
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That pretty much makes you a worthless parasite selfishly feeding off of the work of others, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
Not really. I just want to stick to fansubs for a show I like like I have been doing for years and see no reason to change just because the dubbing company decides to release a stream. Like I said, good for them. I'll tell you that I hope they get the ad revenue they want out of it if it makes you happy. I just don't want the fansub groups effected in the process or to be forced to rely on an online stream when I shouldn't have to. I have never supported Funi when it comes to One Piece because I don't like the way they do things. I'm sorry if you consider that an unacceptable position to take, but it's a position I've always had, it's my right to have it, and its not going to change just because you don't like it. If you want more stuff that goes against your view of the need to suck up to Funi pointlessly, I'll give it to you. I consider Funimation a vastly incompetent company for never being able to achieve the incredibly simple task of releasing all of DBZ unedited on DVD in its original aspect ratio and format in a single collection. I'm also willing to bet that they will never release all of One Piece on DVD, and give up on it loooooooooooong before they ever actually get to the current episodes, let alone finish the series. Adding some stream on their website for the latest episode while never releasing the rest in a downloadable format doesn't make up for this at all, and is pretty freakin pointless to be frank. One Piece lost any chance it had of being successful in the US ages ago, due to it's poor handling by both 4Kids and Funi.
I really hate to burst any delusions you have of One Piece's popularity stance in the US (or wherever else outside Japan) suddenly changing because of this, but it's not going to happen regardless of whether I go on their website and refresh the stream page over and over or not. So I'd kindly like to ask why you consider my decision to stick to fansubs like I always have so outrageous and wrong, because I find your position pretty ridiculous. Why do you care so much anyway? Are you some paid spokesman for the company or something? Jesus Christ.
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That pretty much makes you a worthless parasite selfishly feeding off of the work of others, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
Please, stow that "holier-than-thou" attitude for a troll who cares, you won't get very far shoving that view down other people's throat.
You're not better than Skull Kid just because you say you purchase DVDs on the internet. For all we know, you are a liar, but we can't prove it one way or the other.
It's not relevant either way.
You purchase DVDs because you feel good about enjoying your anime and "supporting the industry", and you'd only just enjoy your anime with a fansub, minus the extra surplus.
Surplus is relative to the individual, you won't earn credits with FUNimation or people on the internet (i.e., respect) for something you do for yourself. Nor would you gain respect for buying DVDs to anime you don't even like. Quite the contrary, I think you'd be ridiculed for being an idiot.
Buying DVDs so you can ridicule people who don't is retarded on many fronts, so stop doing it.
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@Skull:
I really hate to burst any delusions you have of One Piece's popularity stance in the US (or wherever else outside Japan) suddenly changing because of this, but it's not going to happen regardless of whether I go on their website and refresh the stream page over and over or not. So I'd kindly like to ask why you consider my decision to stick to fansubs like I always have so outrageous and wrong, because I find your position pretty ridiculous.
Because watching Funi's stream helps One Piece. No matter how small an amount, it's the difference between choosing to help One Piece and choosing not to.
@Skull:
Why do you care so much anyway? Are you some paid spokesman for the company or something? Jesus Christ.
Dude… look at my posts and consider my post history. This is as mellow as I get.
I'm not outraged at your decision to be a self-serving leech. I'm just pointing out this fact. Quite frankly, as far as your attitude is concerned, I'm probably the least outraged person in this thread.
You ARE self-serving. You ARE leeching off of One Piece. You take enjoyment from the show and give nothing in return. That's a very basic definition of leeching. That's your decision so don't get upset when you are recognized for what you are.
You're not better than Skull Kid just because you say you purchase DVDs on the internet. For all we know, you are a liar, but we can't prove it one way or the other.
Buying DVDs so you can ridicule people who don't is retarded on many fronts, so stop doing it.
Wow…. how egotistical can you possibly be? And coming from somebody with a fairly hefty ego himself, that's saying a lot.
Do you really think I care that much about Skull Kid (and I say Skull Kid cause I don't even know who the !@#$ you are) that I would purchase the DVDs or lie about purchasing the DVDs, just to ridicule him?
Also... this isn't even about DVDs.
The undeniable fact is that watching Funi's stream supports the continued production of One Piece and watching fansubs does not. I can understand not being 100% on board with everything Funi has done, but it's not worth not supporting the show over.
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-_-; we already get both sides of the argument. enough. Charagon, Skull Kid, I think you both have expressed your views fine. Please don't start a flame war… you're already to the name-calling level...
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@Skull:
I guarantee you I won't. Especially if there is any fansub alternative. I have not seen a single official stream of Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood and continue to just get the Eclipse release, as it's an actual file you can store and better in almost every possible way. Like I said, support Funi and their streams if you want. Just don't bullshit and pretend that this is a legitimate replacement for fansubs when it's obviously not.
http://www4.funimation.com/video/?page=show&b=280
Bitch please.
It's not a good alternative for fansubs, of course, but Mr. Leech, you need to understand that some of us are actually grateful for the work people have put into this series, particularly Oda. If you're not going to even bother spending the time to watch the streams before you download the fansub, let alone purchasing the official product, then PLEASE give money to your fansubber of choice. Give back in some way or you'll never be able to seriously justify this leeching as correct in any way.
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I think the funi streams are hardly well enough advertised to be making funi more money than fansubs currently are, but hopefully that will change in the future. In retrospect, I do believe that fans of the show who eventually do chose to purchase the funi dvds could very well have been introduced to the show via fansubs, so to say that funi makes nothing as a result of fansubs is a bit over the top. That being said, I think its a good idea to support the popularization of funi streams, though I find it hard to believe that the little they make would do anything for improved one piece production.
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It's not a good alternative for fansubs, of course, but Mr. Leech, you need to understand that some of us are actually grateful for the work people have put into this series, particularly Oda.
One of the biggest misconceptions about anime/manga is that Western money goes directly to the author in the form of a royalty.
That's not how it is at all.
Think of it as the publisher contracting the manga-ka to make a product, then you are paying the publisher to consume that product.
You aren't directly paying Oda's salary in the same way you're not paying the guy who charbroiled your hamburger at a Burger King.
This whole, "I am supporting my author in the tiniest way possible" mentality is self-gratification posh and shouldn't be used to order how other people act or think.
Wow…. how egotistical can you possibly be? And coming from somebody with a fairly hefty ego himself, that's saying a lot.
(and I say Skull Kid cause I don't even know who the !@#$ you are)
You missed my point about how being an internet tough guy isn't going to build you a reputation.
that I would purchase the DVDs or lie about purchasing the DVDs, just to ridicule him?
That is what it amounts to.
You are flaunting that you are better than someone because you "bought" something.
That is not the purpose of a DVD.
Also… this isn't even about DVDs.
Fine.
VHS.
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One of the biggest misconceptions about anime/manga is that Western money goes directly to the author in the form of a royalty.
I'm pretty sure nobody here has even suggested that.
No, you can't draw a straight line from Funi's internet revenue to Oda's pocket, but that doesn't change the fact that something, anything, is always infinitely larger than nothing.
This whole, "I am supporting my author in the tiniest way possible" mentality is self-gratification posh and shouldn't be used to order how other people act or think.
It's not about supporting your author in the tiniest way possible. It's about supporting him in the ONLY way possible.
You missed my point about how being an internet tough guy isn't going to build you a reputation.
I'm not here to build a reputation. That just sort of happens on its own. I'm here to talk about One Piece.
That is what it amounts to.
You are flaunting that you are better than someone because you "bought" something.
That is not the purpose of a DVD.
How would you know? Do you own one?
Seriously though, I already addressed this.
Fine.
VHS.
Sigh… There's a bit of news you might be interested in…
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One of the biggest misconceptions about anime/manga is that Western money goes directly to the author in the form of a royalty.
That's not how it is at all.
Think of it as the publisher contracting the manga-ka to make a product, then you are paying the publisher to consume that product.
You aren't directly paying Oda's salary in the same way you're not paying the guy who charbroiled your hamburger at a Burger King.
This whole, "I am supporting my author in the tiniest way possible" mentality is self-gratification posh and shouldn't be used to order how other people act or think.
My post said that I'm grateful to every person responsible for bringing One Piece to me in any form I can get it. I realize Oda hardly sees any of his American profits, but I'll be damned if I don't show Funimation and Viz I care about the service they're providing, or Borders for having the product in stock, or Yibis for producing the best fansubs available, or anyone else along the way. They deserve it; whether you choose to support them is up to you, but if you don't give back at all then you have no right to consider yourself anything but a leech and you certainly shouldn't call yourself a true fan.
Disclaimer: Yes, I realize it's terribly pretentious of me to say so but if One Piece means enough to you that you spend countless hours reading or watching it then you should at least give back, whether it be through commercials or buying the official products. There's no harm in not giving back, it just speaks to how much it means to you is all.
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No, you can't draw a straight line from Funi's internet revenue to Oda's pocket, but that doesn't change the fact that something, anything, is always infinitely larger than nothing.
That's true.
We should just thank Oda instead.
It costs us nothing, but it means the world to Oda, because what matters most is people enjoying his manga, not the .000000001% of a penny he might get because someone bought an OP tanko at a Border's Books.
How would you know? Do you own one?
I own six volumes of the OP manga.
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That's true.
We should just thank Oda instead.
It costs us nothing, but it means the world to Oda, because what matters most is people enjoying his manga, not the .000000001% of a penny he might get because someone bought an OP tanko at a Border's Books.
I own six volumes of the OP manga.
You seem to be talking a lot about the economics of the affair. Unfortunately economics doesn't work the way you are representing it. You can't talk about sales on an individual basis you have to look at it in aggregate!
Sure Oda doesn't get directly paid by a DVD purchase in the US, however in order for his work to get licensed in foreign countries companies like FUNi would have to have the EXPECTATION (if you are even a marginally conscious human you will have heard this term on the news a lot lately) that people would purchase the material.
[There is a lot more to this argument, but I realized that I can go on and on so I'll only bring it up as it becomes directly relevant… cuz im lazy like that]
Also Malintex_Terek you mentioned the price of One Piece DVDs on the first page. $15 vs $50… I just did a quick amazon search...
Price: $24
Discs: 2
Price per Disc: $12
Runtime per Disc: 150 minutes (more than 2 hours hence equivalent to buying a movie DVD)Price: $36 (costs more cuz its the newest one)
Discs: 2
Price per Disc: $18 (only marginally more than an average DVD)
Runtime per Disc: 150 minutes (more than 2 hours hence equivalent to buying a movie DVD)EDIT: @Skull Kid: Not that you'd care, since you seem intent on ignoring efforts by media companies to adopt more modern business models, but Hulu provides FMA: Brotherhood at 480p, which is marginally better video quality than that of the video provided directly from the FUNi site. (The production quality of that show sucks balls compared to the last FMA series though O_O)